As someone that has spent an embarrassing amout of time doing excel sheets with all of the weapons just to compare the refines at a glance. You should almost never +5 a weapon, it gives really marginal gains for an astronomical cost. You can +4 three weapons of the same type with the resources you need to +5 just one. The rules I follow are: - To +1 any weapon is almost always worth it, its the most bang for your buck you're gonna get. - Slim and Iron are the best at +3, +4 only if you need the hit boost. They will fall off as the game progresses and your characters gain Build though, so you might want to keep them at +1. - If you're gonna use Steel as your main get it to +4. Maxing it out is too expensive and the -1 weight is hardly worth it considering at best its gonna give you +1 speed. The resources are enough to +4 two other steel weapons from scratch. - Silver and Brave weapons are the best at +2, and still somewhat worth it at +3. From there they start facing heavy deminishing returns, especially Silver. But if you're at the endgame and swimming in silver ingots you can max out your Braves. - All of the above also applies to the heavy weapons such as blades, great lances and great axes. - Any weapon with effectiveness gets extra value from the might boost, as the might of the weapon is tripled when hitting the enemy they are effective against. Considering they are even cheaper to max out than the Steel, they are a great option to +4. - Hand Axes and Javelines are good to +4 if you need the lower weight to double. If not, a +1 tomahawk and spear are cheaper and better. - Killer weapons are the best at +2, as the 5 extra crit is not worth the cost. Wo Dao has less might, crit and weight but more hit, I think its weaker than the killer sword but if you want to use it the sweet spot is at +3. - Levin Sword, Flame Lance, Hurricane Axe and Radiant Bow are good to +1, +3 at best if you need the extra might for some reason. - Longbows are amazing at +1. - As for thomes Fire is good at +3 but you really should just upgrade it to Elfire, wich is the best at +2. +3 is justifiable if you really need the -1 weight for doubles. Also, if you can double with Bongalone, its worth to +1. - Thunder thomes wont let you double so upgrade to Elthunder as soon as you can, then to Thoron when you can use A Rank thomes. +1 the Thoron and engrave it with one of those emblems that gives it a ton of weight like Roy or Ike for the extra might. - +1 Wind is great, base Elwind is even better. If you need the low weight to double keep it at +4, if not, a +2 Excalibur is better and cheaper. - Surge is trash, never upgrade it. If you want to use it becouse you find if funny upgrade to Elsurge and never forge. Even +1 isn't worth it. - Nova is basically a brave thome so +2 is the best, but get it higher if you are rich. - Arts costs are Short-Iron-Steel-Silver, so the same applies: Initiate and Iron Body will fall off, +4 Steel Hand at best, +2 the Silver Spirit (You can make an argument for +3). Leave the Shielding at +1 as the Defense it gives tou doesn't scale. +4 the Flashing Fist for more damage. - For the knives, they are super light so theres no point in using short and iron. Just get a Steel Dagger to +4 and roll with it. A +3 Silver Dagger is only 1 might stronger and costs double. Same with the +4 Stiletto being almost as good and half the price as the +3 Pershkatz. - Finally the Liberatión is good to +1 but thats kinda where it ends. At +2 is just a lighter steel sword, at +4 it has the same might as a Steel +1, and at +5 it's a lighter base Silver Sword. With just 2 points of extra Build on your Alear through level ups you should be able to use a Steel +4 without losing speed, being stronger and cheaper than a maxed out Liberatión. For lighter alternatives the Wyrmslayer at +4 is also stronger and cheaper. (If you have them, Folkvangr, Fensalir and Noatun at +1 are lighter silver weapons. If you get them to +3 they are better and cheaper than a +2 Silver. They are the only weapons I would consider worth to +5 as they are a bit more expensive than a +5 Steel but stronger than +4 Silver.)

Panette+killer axe+Ike with wrath is a crit machine once she's taken some damage. Don't have her yet on maddening but on my hard run she was incredible.

After messing around with the Forge. I learn that its worth having a magic weapon for units that have high speed despite their weight. They are good against Armored units. Killer weapons are definitely worth getting early on for units that have average speed growth plus they can be upgraded from iron weapons. I find Brave weapons good for trying to proc a skill or for a unit with high strength but low speed. Also they are great for finishing off enemies.Steel weapons are the jack of trades for me they are neither bad or good and can surprisingly be use all the way to end game. Silver weapons are good if have when you have the resources to invest into them.

Forging a Levin sword for Griffon Knight Chloe before Ch. 10 was definitely a drug I didn't know I needed, especially on maddening.

The only axe that doesn't need a accuracy engraving is Anna's axe from feh which you can get by linking the Nintendo account you play engage on and doing the tutorial until you can access the code by clicking an orb in the top right I think. You also get a good sword and lance too that's around the same amount I think to max out liberation as well as three bond rings that come with abilities that buff attk, defense, or nerf adjacent enemies attack.

You should look into the 3 weapons you get as part of the free dlc unlocked by linking an FEH with the same nintendo account as your Engage save file. The axe is great and the spear may as well be Chloe signature weapon with a decent engraving, I think they're on par with silver but with less weight!

The iron dagger is worth investing some points into in the early game. The first 2 ranks give +2 might each and are very cheap. Not every weapon needs to be taken to +5 to assess their value. Even if you're not going to use Yunaka forever, having her on your team early on to help soften targets is huge help given her high base speed and the low weight of daggers. She's also one of your most flexible units at the start because of 5 Mov. I understand dropping her eventually when Zelkov comes around because he has higher base strength and comes at a great starting level but not using her early seems like a mistake. Another piece of equipment worth upgrading a little bit early is the Iron Lance to +1. For just 10 Iron, you get 2 might. This puts it at 4 might over the Slim Lance Chloe starts with, letting her deal a massive 8 damage more to slow enemies that she doubles for only 2 less speed due to the weight penalty. The small might gains from forging matter way more early game than they do late game just because of how tightly the damage numbers are tuned early.

Also blades are really good for when you put a ike engraving on them and you can get a for-sure kill with overdrive

I heard fist actually go off str and magic combined divide by 2 so mix’s builder like Jean and chole could be interesting. Only mentioning this because near the end you said a person needs to have high strength to make it work.

Did you look at the donation rewards? You dont get extra silver for firene or solm lvl 3 (unless the ingame and online info is wrong)

I put the ike engrave on a brave axe +2. The damage is crazy. I tend to pair that up with a dancer. Since if panette gets double she can survive one encounter

Iron weapons only need +1 in very early game. It’s insanely cheap (10 iron) and gives a whopping 2 might. Then once the dogs start bringing in a trickle of silver you can move onto steel weapons and get them to +3 (although Yunaka appreciates +4 on daggers, with no real need to go to +5). You can move onto +5 on non-daggers once you get enough silver and get everyone their starting forged weapons. Silver weapons are simply way too expensive for what is a marginal mt upgrade over steel just for a probable speed penalty. At this point I think you’re better off expanding your weapon reportoire, like looking to levin sword, longbow, higher tomes, peshkatz, killer weapons, or really anything that makes your characters more flexible. Forging axes CAN work, but you need to have a clear plan in mind, like hit rate engravings (as you mentioned) or ranged axes for chain attacks. Diamant actually uses axes really well because of his personal and, unlike hero, can actually use tomahawk for chip before chain attacks. In terms of priority, I feel like lances and daggers are the most obvious before looking into other weapons. Chloé and Yunaka both scale well with reforges with the former appreciating the weight decrease and the latter abusing the honestly unbalanced forge upgrades daggers get. Even if you plan on dropping Yunaka you can just pass her dagger to Zelkov or Merrin.

When will you make a late game upgrade guide? if anything changes from this even I mean. Like for example is Caladbolg, Brionac, and the 2 weapons you get from the well worth upgrading?

All those silver heavy weapons are very good for engage attack. And if you don't have that many mage class, armorbreaker weapons are very good as there are so many armored units in this game. Using armorbreaker weapons usually result in higher damages than silver weapon.

Diamant fully upgraded killer axe, 60% or more grit every hit

The only time you should upgrade atome is if it's for specific character you're trying to help the weight

Killer axe is amazing on Panette. She can get a "yes" crit rate removing uncertainty by adding an accuracy+crit engraving. Don't make the same mistake I did keeping her in Barbarian though. That ridiculously low dex cap will catch up to you eventually. Other than that... yeah they suck unfortunately.

One thing to note, is that I believe arts scale off of the average between Strength and Magic. So add your unit's strength and magic, then divide by 2, and that is what you have to scale off of for arts. They are weird like that. Also, one thing I am not 100% sure about, is do Levin Sword, Flame Lance, Hurricane Axe, and Radiant Bow, do they scale off of just magic, or does strength still help?

I prepared a few engravements before chapter 11 and I'm wondering how I should refine these weapons later on: I gave the Micaiah one to a steel sword (for Hero Lapis to avoid tank), but I'm unsure whether I should make it +5 (makes it a good all-rounder), refine it into a silver sword (for extra power), or refine it to a levin sword (for countering ranged unit in enemy-phase + ranged assists). I gave the Roy engravement to a steel lance. I plan to make Boucheron a Halberdier and could either refine the steel lance to a silver lance (max power), or refine it to a brave lance (combine the Roy engravement with Boucheron's unique passive to maximise damage from quadding). I did also give the Lief engravement to a +3 dagger for Yunaka, and I'm pretty happy with the results. I'm just wondering if I should commit to a +5 iron dagger, or refine it to a steel dagger.

Just use accuracy engravings and/or use axes on Panette or Diamont. Dia gets a natural accuracy buff and Panette wants a Killer axe with an accuracy boost. An accurate killer axe is great bc the higher Mt means more reliably killing in one hit.

For tomes I only upgraded bolganone and thoron. For bows I swear by radiant bow. Fogado with radiant bow was a very decent damage dealer on my maddening run. I also really like the killing edge with kagetsu. He has over a 90% critrate in my maddening run, its crazy he just crits everything to oblivion and the best part is, he also always doubles, its insane.

For the axes, I have anna and rosado with +constitution of leif and with that they always attack x2, for me the worst weapons are swords I also use all the killer wapons at +5 and they are amazing, they are cheap to upgrade and your pjs always have 50% crit when attacking My archer did not matter what he did, he always did little damage. What I did in the end was to use my archer with Eirika and honestly it was a brutal change, the damage increase is tremendous (Also the Selene ability activates a lot)

How many times you do the tempest trial in you maddening run?

So I pulled the trigger and got Louis a silver great Lance, he hits for like 50, it’s hilarious on enemy phase, especially if they try to hit him with a great weapon because he gets to attack first. I just got him over the threshold for starsphere too… I’m thinking about making him Halberdier because he doesn’t lose that much defense… it’s working well on Chloe. Anyway I’m excited for phase 3 of dlc now, I hope the gifts for phase 3 include second seals but we’ll see. The early game is spicy now I wonder if it’s viable to turn the free steel sword you get into a levin sword for the princess…

Isn't arts damage calculated as (STR+MAG)/2? Thus units like Jean which have a balanced spread would be good, instead of units with single high stat growths.

Panette is one of my best units on my maddening run. Vantage+ and Wrath. Monster. Need to avoid breaks, ranged enemies and tanks though.

I think Diamant is probably the only decent axe unit if you keep in him his unique promotion, mostly because he has an actual build stat and has juuust enough speed that you can get him doubling with a lyn or stat boosters. I honestly think the REAL reason to get the dlc emblems is just to have more engravings for everyone. The lyn engrave is super-contested if you have more than one axe guy, tiki's engrave is fantastic on anyone who wants extra damage without compromising hit, and the avoid penalty isn't that big a deal depending on who you're using.

Would Hector ring on a unit with lower build make brave weapons completely insane with his Heavy Strike skill?

I disagree on daggers, they are extremely cheap to upgrade and they tend to have +2 Mt per upgrade which is absolutely crazy for a weapon that doesn't have a lot of strength to start with and is usually equipped on faster units that can double. A steel dagger you can upgrade to +4, which more than doubles its Mt (7 to 15) and adds +10 hit and +5 crit for only 2800 Gold and 2 silver. That's a deal of the century. Compared to a Steel Axe+4 only goes from 13 Mt to 17 Mt and costs the same to upgrade. The best weapons to upgrade imo: Longbow All daggers Any Killer weapon / Wo Dao (every time it crits you are getting +3 damage per upgrade instead of +1 for a non-crit) Any Slim, Iron, or Steel weapon that you plan to be using for a while (cheap and useful) Tomahawk and Hand Axe Javelin and Spear Magical weapons like Radiant Bow, Levin Sword Light, ranged, and crit weapons are the best to upgrade. Heavy weapons / smash weapons are the worst. El-Tomes and higher are ok to just put +1 or +2 in if you have extra gold but not after it starts costing silver, because magic in this game is already super OP and doesn't need a buff. Special Swords/Lances/Axes that are effective against armor, cavalry or fliers are not as worth it to prioritize except maybe the hurricane axe.

I didn't have the same exp with magic users. They all need speedtaker for me before they really get good. I usually give then evasion engravings. Also magic can be fairly inaccurate on dodgy enemies. Thoron esp wants an acc engraving.

I swear by Axe units man. Diamant was made to use axes particularly the brave axe. Alcryst and Fogado reclassed as Warriors are good as they retain B rank Bows (Silver) and you can trade strat their axes to longbows to activate more chain attacks which reclassing to Warrior allows. You are right about most axes being bad. The best IMO are Brave, Silver, Tomahawk, Killer. You could give it a +Hit engraving or give the wielder +HIT from Sigurd or Divine Pulse from Byleth if you have the skill slots available. I actually did a Panette crit build on 1st maddening run. It was probably the most fun I've ever had playing FE. Step 1, save the seraph robe from early game for her. give her the seraph robe from her join chapter and then hp tonics every chapter if you desire. From there, you have options depending on what emblem you want her to use. If you want to use her with Ike, then inherit Speedtaker from Lyn, for 2000SP (she starts with 1500 at base). Otherwise, inherit Wrath from Ike for 2000. Once she caps DEX as a berserker (a pitiful ~23), reclass to Warrior. If you don't want to use Ike+Panette, then inherit Wrath from Ike, and pair with Lyn for speedtaker and some very hard hitting astra storms. And also reclass into warrior for a higher DEX cap and access to bows. Engaging with Leif for the +10 crit sounds good on paper, but all it ends up doing is have Panette counterattack with the light brand for 0 damage or miss with the 55 hit rate master lance. Other ways to fix panette's speed are to reclass to halberdier for their class kill that lets you always double. think about it with slow base/growth units. You also said you don't like armor units. They are made for the Greatlance and Great Axes. In general, the great weapons have 2 main use cases, 1. enemy phasing when neither you nor the enemy would double anyways 2. When you want to get some engage meter for free for the unit and the healer. Greatweapons have giga synergy with Emblem Attacks. Early Steel Blade with Marth is pretty good. Same sword but with Roy if paired with Alear in the early game. Great Axe for Ike's Great Aether is good if you can upgrade it to be better than the Urvan. Hurricane axe + GA to punish flyer packs. Pole axe +GA to punish Wolf Knight packs. Ike comes with a 18 MT hammer, use his.

I agree with a lot in the video. Some I don't. Axes aren't inherently bad, you just have to put them on the right unit. You know who's an amazing axe user that nobody talks about? Chloe. You give her the Noatun (promotional weapon from FEH, which anyone has access to for free), refine it, and there's your second best unit all game long (2nd after Anna). Chole has the speed to mitigate the Wt during the early game, and as she grows and you refine the weapon, the penalty goes away. Right now on C21 maddening my Chloe has 161 hit, 38 speed and 45 PAtk while sporting that Noatun +5. Regarding Armors, I think this video won't age well because Quick Riposte made them actually absolute units, but I don't hold that against you as it's very new and not everyone has the DLC. I've seen Louis single handedly one round nearly every cavalier that Mauvier ported to him in C20 maddening just by standing there and doubling them all thanks to QR and his gargantuan 32 Str. Other than that, they've always been useful to me in soaking damage so my Ivy and Anna could disintegrate from behind. You can play around mages very easily. Yunaka and Chloe can easily dive the enemy backline if needed, and you can always soak damage with Diamant for a couple turns while you deal with the mages. Louis (specially) and Goldmary are absolute mainstays on my team. Also, you make up their lack of dex by using +hit refines which you probably wouldn't use on anyone else, so there's not even an opportunity cost there. As for the tomes... I don't like Bolganone. It's way too heavy. Anna can't use it and, unlike Chloe, Ivy doesn't have the speed to mitigate the Wt and still double, so I go with refined Elfires. They both still have 49 and 50 MAtk respectively, while being able to double everything that's not a Swordmaster. My only problem is I have to restrain myself from using them too much because they can pretty much one round most non-boss units. Brave weapons I personally find them to be a trap. The units that they're good for are units I wouldn't use, as speed is paramount on maddening. If you can consistently double enemies, you're life will be so much easier. Sure, you can double with a Brave weapon, but chances are you're gonna do little damage due to the low Mt, and will get doubled back, always at a high net loss. Killer weapons I haven't used. I'm sure they're fun, but when you're playing maddening on classic mode, you can't bank a kill or be killed situation on getting a crit. At least I don't. The few risks I take are super calculated, otherwise I play safe. Killer weapons also have low Mt, so unless you crit, you're gonna struggle to even scratch units into the late game. Now that's outta the way, I agree with the most important part of the video, which is that Steel weapons are the way to go. They give you the best bang for your buck for when you're actually progressing through the game, and I mention this because there's very heavy diminishing returns beyond the +3 mark. I've only +5'd steel weapons early for Yunaka and Alcryst, who I felt are the only ones that actually needed them, but everyone else's I upgrade beyond +3 once I had those 2 covered up, and I had +5'd the FEH weapons. I still have many to go, most of them actually, but really beyond +3 is a luxury you can get when you can, not something you necessarily need to rush. Another perk about those refined Steel over Silver weapons is that they give you respectable crit chance, which as you rightfully said yourself, getting a crit means you can often free up a unit to put somewhere else, which almost always is a boon. I find Effective weapons good, really, but I don't think your limited resources should go to them on maddening. Like you, I deal with Armor units with magic, and on the big Dragons you can use engages. Usually one engage + something else will do the trick. Worst case you can always use a fracture staff to avoid damage.

Ok. Axes hit the hardest by far but only really Tomahawks and Silver Axes I have found to be good on normal users and a crit engraved killer axe is also good with Flyers.

Killer axe +5 on Panette is ridiculous. Run her with Lyn and she will double an enemy doing half hp every attack with a 65+ crit rate and more if she is hurt. Also takes 2 hp bars off bosses in 1 turn and 3 or 4 if you dance her multiple times.

I thought the usual wisdom was to only donate a little, especially on Maddening?

Level 3 donation for all nations EXCEPT Brodia does NOT increase the amount of ore you get after completing chapters. Unless it's a completely hidden bonus that the game lies about, only go to level 2 with most of them and maybe 3 with Brodia (it sucks because the only times you'll return there are for 2 paralogues and maybe a skirmish).

I had my anna as paladin, equiped with tiki, nothing extra for luck and she ran around with 41

Perhaps I should just go firene level 3 and then be done with it lol

I love your videos do you stream?

Tanks are great in this game. Usually have at least one one on the team. Usually Great Knight > General though. Picket is def a great class but there is no way it should have more def than a Great Knight or General. Those classes will have something like an extra 30% def growth over Picket Timerra. That said, Timerra is great with Ike or Hector (if you have DLC). Great Knight with Sigurd, Ike, Roy, Hector is great. If going General would use Sigurd for sure.

Me hitting chapter 25 last night riding the struggle bus and hitting every curb imaginable. Sees coffees mid game guide. So now I see where I had fucked up and fucked up hard

Brave lance is guaranteed Quad with a Helbadier class. And they are a very decent backup unit to have if you have lots of flyers to get them the other side of the enemies.

Something I've noticed is how underwhelming the S rank weapons for swords, axes, and bows are. They have 3 more Mt than their silver counterpart, and roughly the same hit rate. At max forging, the sw/ax/ln/bw S ranks will have 2 more Mt and 10 more crit but could 50 silver ore to get there vs silver weapons costing 20 silver, 100 steel and 800 iron. TLDR; the only worthwhile S ranks are the 1-2 range lance, the 1-2 range dagger, and maybe the tome, the rest I'd say stick with the silver/steel counterparts due to the lower investment cost. There are also more specialized forging builds like wrath panette + killer axe, or a spear/tomahawk for your General.

Suddenly regrets not resetting for Ana death

For arts just use Eirika's ring. Ignore def and always quading is good. Also good for breaking mages. Admittedly I only ever use them on Alear to break mages.

Any axe user with the +15 hit inherit from Sigurd I believe is OP.

Jean warrior with lief emblem mid late game you can give him silver axe that does not reduce his speed and is fast

Anna is very hard to make a sage from my experience since a level 1 mage gets its ass kicked early and late game

Goldmary is the best tank in the game. Mine has 47 defence and doesn’t take physical damage, chapter 24 on maddening now.

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Unlike sword and lance, Axe is not supposed to double. Instead, it is easier to build crit and try to one shot enemy.

3 things. Stiletto is probably largely useless because you can simply stay at Steel Dagger for crit since they come with crit which is lost when you go to Silver Dagger. Might get some extra Mt out of it but dunno if its worth losing the 1-2 Range and how much more costly the upgrades are. Maxing Thunder can be good if you run Dire Thunder and you can throw Ike's +3 MT +15 Wt on it and not give a damn about the speed penalty and make it hit like a truck. Lastly, the punchy Arts scale (Str/2+Mag/2)

how did u get ur anna's stats to be so insane im on ch14 mine isnt anywhere near close i want to use her but she just dies

Silver Smash weapons are actually supper important to maddening

gave speedtaker asap to my heavy hitters, feels nice

I got Anna to 30 luck, so I felt like Mage Knight was limiting her since it has a 29 luck cap. I put her on Griffin Knight with a levin sword and she just trucks through everything.

Not run Yunaka? She can literally make maddening trivial if you feed her stat boosts, and then with corrin ring she is insane again.

17:01 I don't think Timerra having more defense than Louis and Jade has anything to do with "Just from being a Picket". She has the exact same base defense as Louis, but joins 12 levels higher than him, and his personal defense growth is the same as Timerra's personal + Picket class growth. If you instant promote her, she has the same defense as Jade when Jade joins. It sounds more like you just didn't use them and used Timerra Also: Arts/Punching is the average of the unit's Strength and Magic. Just having high strength isn't necessarily ideal since each strength is only worth half as much compared to other physical weapons

As somebody who used Boucheron i will say this acrrecy +build inheratanve was a nessity cause once he lvls build that axe weight ment nothing he v use urvan and tomahawks without loseing speed amd has been a nice "go into the middle of all these ebemys and lress great another woth resolve he just soaks damage with his Hp pool and half damage. Put acc+ on a killer weapon and he hits like a truck consistantly

Forging axes is kinda bad because the units who naturally wield axes already have high strength so the marginal gain from each upgrade is pretty small. I would say the best axes to forge is the poleaxe or the killer ax, if you can fix the accuracy issues. Swords and daggers are probably the best forges because they're light and easy to double with (plus sword classes generally have lower strength). Lances are in a pretty good spot too. I feel the same way about Silver weapons. They're pretty expensive to upgrade for a marginal upgrade over Steel. I'd rather spend that extra money forging effective weapons for that situational triple forge value

I am pretty sure for Arts, it isn't based on your strength. Instead it is based on half your magic and strength.

Jean can have the build and speed to double with axes alongside the highest possible strength growth in the game as long as you're willing to invest in him. If you second seal him at level 1 into an axe fighter, then master seal into a Berserker at level 10, he should have 15 build and 25 speed by the time he hits level 20. With Tiki (or at least Starsphere), he has 19 build and max (28) speed at level 20. That said, if you give him Tiki, I think he would be more useful as a warrior because it's nice to have a bow user that doubles and hits really hard without relying on Luna. Assuming you don't use Tiki, who immediately turns him into a good unit, there's a time limit for him to become useful before you lose your chance to powerlevel him. To get around that, you can always corner Ivy and keep healing until he hits a decent level.

Yeah it freaked me out too when I realized they made killing edge have more crit than wo dao like wtf IntSys it’s literally never been like that

I just played chapter 19, killed like 9 enemies with Anna with like 30 luck and didn't get a single "$500".

Brave axes make lief a good unit. Chuck him on someone with good speed and middling build and suddenly you have a warrior who is doubling on defence with silver axes and erasing literally anything from existence on player phase with brave axe.

So made Anna a mage knight and gave her Camilla. Broken

The best weapon in the game is Thunder with Olwen ring. More broken then any mage emblem. Give Alear Alphonse's ring, stand next to that buff bot, and watch everything die. Gets more funny after acquiring dances. Magic is everything

Armor slayer +4 still one shots at chapter 18 Maddening

Me with 5 thieves hahahaha Clanne Yunaka Zelkov Alcrit Pepsichan

I already upgraded my steel axes 😡 At least kagestsu still gets 100% hit with them lol

Killer lance and bow suuuuuuucks. They have lower weight than they’re sword and axe counterpart, but shitty MT. If you want a great early axe that you can still use in the late game, pick up the Order of Heroes weapons you can get for free. When fully maxed, the Axe is the best one of the trio.

Eh I still think Yunaka sweeps the thief debate just bc of her personal, she makes it too easy. Unless her avoid gets too high and enemies don’t target her I guess 😵‍💫

So are you mad about how busted Camilla is?

I am trying to like this game, but I find the limited resources to be a pain. Makes it punishing to experiment.

I thnk Jade just sucks. She wasn't getting strength and obviously, was not doubling. Brave axe didn't save her.