IDEAL Hand Conduit Benders How to Make an Offset Bend

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Ron Kipper From IDEAL

Ron Kipper From IDEAL

8 жыл бұрын

Here is the link to the IDEAL Conduit Bender product page. www.idealind.com/us/en/shop/p...
Making Offset bends in electrical conduit is pretty easy. I will show you step by step how to make the Offset bend using an IDEAL Hand Conduit Bender.
In this video I will show you one way to make an Offset bend in a ½ inch EMT conduit using a hand conduit bender from IDEAL.
The offset bend is used when an obstruction requires a change in the conduit’s plane. It actually is two bends in the length of conduit that will allow the conduit to go over the obstruction and continue along the path. Before making an offset bend, you must choose the most appropriate angles for the offset. Keep in mind that shallow bends make for easier wire pulling and steeper bends will conserve space but harder to pull through. For small kicks of 1 to 2 inches that feed electrical outlet boxes a 10° offset is generally used. For obstructions between one and 6 inches 30° bends seem to work best and for obstructions that are in 8 inches or more 45° bends are recommended. However any of these angles can be used to create this offset.
For this demonstration I will use our catalog number 74 - 026 Ductile iron head bender from IDEAL. The ductile iron head benders are typically preferred by the professionals as they will last longer than aluminum bender heads which are lighter weight but less durable.
Since we’re bending angles in a length of conduit trigonometry comes into play and depending on the degree of the bends we are making a certain shrink amount and distance between bends will need to be calculated.
I’m working with a length of conduit that is 60 inches long and because of the two bends we will make to create the offset the overall length of the conduit will shrink by a certain amount which is dependent on the degree of bend we are using.
When using 22 ½ degree bends the shrink amount is 3/16” for every inch of obstruction to go over and the multiplier to determine the distance between bends is 2.5. For 30° bends the shrink amount is ¼ inch and the multiplier is 2.0 and for 45° bends the shrink amount is 3/8” and the multiplier is 1.4.
We make this easy by providing an offset bending guide on the handle of every Ideal bender.
Looking at the offset bending guide for a 4 inch offset using two 30° bends. The guide gives us a shrink amount of 1 inch and a distance between bends of 8 inches. That follows along with the shrink amount and multiplier given for a 30° bend with a 4” obstruction. 4 X ¼” = 1” and 2 X4”=8"
Step one is to measure the distance from the last coupling to the obstruction. In my example that is 36 inches.
Step two is to add the shrink amount from the table to the measured distance and make your first mark on the conduit at 36+1 or 37 inches. Contractors generally use a pencil to mark the conduit so it can be erased later. In my example I will use a permanent marker and mark the conduit all the way around so the mark will not get lost in the conduit head when bending.
Step three is to make the second mark on the conduit at 37 - 8 inches or at 29 inches which is the distance between the two bends.
Offset bends are done in the air not on the ground. Simply stand the bender with the handle pointing down and bender head closer to you.
Step four is to align the mark at 37 inches with the arrow on the bender head. Using the graduated marks on the bender head bend the conduit to 30°, the bottom of the conduit will be lined up with the 30° mark on the bender head.
To do this bend your knees and lower your center of gravity, set 1 foot next to the bottom of the bender handle near the ground to hold it in place and then tuck the conduit under your arm and bend the conduit using a steady pressure to prevent any wrinkles or kinks.
Step five is to slide the conduit in the bender head and align the second mark at 29 inches with the arrow. Make sure to align the two bends before making the second bend. Carefully line up the first bend with the second bend or you’ll end up with a dog-leg. Any time you’ve got two or more bends in a pipe, there’s the potential for what electricians call a dog-leg if the bends aren’t aligned. This creates a problem in the wall, and doesn’t make for a professional looking bend.
Use the handle on the bender to align the first bend with the second bend. Then using a similar technique bend the second 30° bend creating the 4 inch offset.
Using a tape measure we can check the accuracy of the bender and you can see the offset is 36 inches from the end of the conduit and the offset is 4”.
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@dzhou8814
@dzhou8814 7 жыл бұрын
your lesson is much simpler then most I had seen so far
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Don the offset is not hard to do and a little practice goes a long way.
@diegoordonez9767
@diegoordonez9767 Жыл бұрын
Very clear explanation!!! thank you
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 Жыл бұрын
Diego use the info well have fun Ron
@iiPlay2Much
@iiPlay2Much 4 жыл бұрын
You were meant to be a teacher. I'm blown out my mind and I understood everything perfectly! lol
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Dannycan thanks I do appreciate you being out there. Have fun Ron
@SysFader
@SysFader 7 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the video, I'm new to the trade and I had no idea what that chart on my ideal benders was for. Thanks for your time.
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 7 жыл бұрын
You are not the first guy to say that! Thanks for the note Ron
@dibraniuk
@dibraniuk 7 жыл бұрын
this the best ever learning resource from Ron. Immense help to any one. I bought two benders and they work a treat. very cool
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 7 жыл бұрын
Happy to be of service. Ron
@bretttompkins9896
@bretttompkins9896 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your help, easy to understand and very informative. Couldn't have done my project without your help. Keep up the good work!
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Brett appreciate the comment. Ron
@ifizzl
@ifizzl 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, I will look for more of your videos.
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 5 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you watching Ron
@randyosborn284
@randyosborn284 4 жыл бұрын
OMG. Its so refreshing when a professional shows you how to do it. Too many hacks on youtube. Thank you Ron!
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Randy I don't know about the pro side of what you said but I appreciate it. Hope these videos help the folks out there who are just learning about conduit bending. It takes lots of practice to get right have fun Ron
@randyosborn284
@randyosborn284 4 жыл бұрын
@@RonKipperDatacomm1 I'm an HVAC guy for 42 years. HVAC educator for 28 years. So much pure crap on KZfaq in my trade. But your video was spot on. I'm doing my own conduit in my new shop. Thanks to you I can now make a box offset (in the air of course)! I'm still wasting a little pipe but I'm getting better... Thank you sincerely
@emperorj-mo1139
@emperorj-mo1139 7 жыл бұрын
thx I enioyed the lesson,I really desire to get the conduit bending down to the science
@commercialelectrician133
@commercialelectrician133 5 жыл бұрын
thanks for the sticker for my benders i also got my new boots for my benders got 6 they work great
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 3 жыл бұрын
OK leo thanks for watching Ron
@cusu1914
@cusu1914 Жыл бұрын
You help me so much in my career, thanks for making this video.
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 Жыл бұрын
Hey I really appreciate that! Ron
@antoniosoto4912
@antoniosoto4912 7 жыл бұрын
Good job brother
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@silentninja8156
@silentninja8156 4 жыл бұрын
great video ron
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Appreciate you being out there. Ron
@ramonurbaez5161
@ramonurbaez5161 7 жыл бұрын
if you make more videos, we would appreciate it.
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 7 жыл бұрын
Ramon I know I know...........need to make more video just can't find the time but hoping to change that. Ron
@ramonurbaez5161
@ramonurbaez5161 7 жыл бұрын
this is video is the all best
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching I need to make more of these videos. Ron
@aliqassim3647
@aliqassim3647 5 жыл бұрын
Good job i like it m teacher thanks
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 3 жыл бұрын
Use the info well Ron
@stevewestbrook7025
@stevewestbrook7025 4 жыл бұрын
for shallow offsets the thickness of a 2x4 (1-5/8"), I've found it is necessary to subtract an additional 2-1/2". Mark (B) would be at 26-1/2" in reference to this video.
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 4 жыл бұрын
OK Steve appreciate your input Ron
@aliqassim3647
@aliqassim3647 5 жыл бұрын
You Good job
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 3 жыл бұрын
Ali thanks Ron
@gdavis8588
@gdavis8588 4 жыл бұрын
I really struggle avoiding dog legs, especially on short box offsets. Any tips to improve? Thanks.
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 4 жыл бұрын
Hi G Davis maybe slowing down and sight down the pipe before the second bend. I would not think doglegs would be a problem with the box offset, Have fun Ron
@ourleopardtortoises6543
@ourleopardtortoises6543 3 жыл бұрын
Great video where can I get the bender sticker
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 3 жыл бұрын
Marizel call IDEAL customer service 800-435-0705 and ask for a P-099 stcker. They should send one out to you. Hope that helps Ron
@jt5747
@jt5747 3 жыл бұрын
Is the multiplier any different for 3/4" conduit? What about the shrink?
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 3 жыл бұрын
jt5747 it is the same Ron
@mattkrywyj5184
@mattkrywyj5184 4 жыл бұрын
Are you measuring from the coupling to where the obstruction STARTS or to its center?
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt typically we measure from the last coupling to the where the obstruction starts for offset bends. Hope that helps Ron
@mattkrywyj5184
@mattkrywyj5184 4 жыл бұрын
Ron Kipper Datacomm Absolutely. Thanks
@JohnSmith-sf8gj
@JohnSmith-sf8gj 9 ай бұрын
I would like a replacement decal for my handle, but sadly I cant get one.
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 9 ай бұрын
Hey John I can help with that send me your address and I will get one sent to you Ron at ron.kipper@idealindustries.com
@endicot0195
@endicot0195 3 жыл бұрын
You said the first bend should line up with the 37” mark. Didn’t you mean the 29” mark,or did you turn the conduit around? It appears as though you bent the first mark from the end which would have been the 29”, correct?
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 3 жыл бұрын
Yes the first bend is made at 37" then slide the conduit in the bender head and rotate it 180 degrees the line up the arrow with the 29" mark and make the second bend. Watch the whole video and I show making that second bend. Have fun Ron
@danarcher3415
@danarcher3415 5 жыл бұрын
How do you open the freezer?
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Sky Dan nothing but food in the freezer! Ron
@commercialelectrician133
@commercialelectrician133 6 жыл бұрын
how do i get the stickers to replace on my ideal benders we have 9 of them bender charts are all scratched out
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 6 жыл бұрын
leo send me your address and I will send you some. How many do you need? Ron at ron.kippder@idealindustries.com
@commercialelectrician133
@commercialelectrician133 6 жыл бұрын
7306 iturbide st. Weslaco Texas 78599. need 6 will be getting2 new 1/2 benders Monday looking to try the boots will see if they have in stock to buy on Monday great class on pipe bending thats my to go for reference for my apprintice kitchenworkshvacr@gmail.com
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 6 жыл бұрын
Leo I just order 10 of the stickers for you. You should see them next week at the latest let me know if you don't get them. Ron
@commercialelectrician133
@commercialelectrician133 6 жыл бұрын
that was a fast reply that because i sent email after email to the ideal manufacturer never got a response back in a honesty i sent 6 email will be getting my new benders today also an ideal wire nut driver
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the trouble you should see them this week. If you ever need help contact me or our 800-435-0705 customer service number. Ron
@francislorico4003
@francislorico4003 3 жыл бұрын
Ron, which U.S. State are you in?
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Francis I live in Kansas Ron
@theplocky
@theplocky 4 жыл бұрын
Lastimosamente no ahí una explicación así en español 😢
@antoniohernandez7171
@antoniohernandez7171 4 жыл бұрын
Every time i do an offset bend with the correct multiplier, my offset always exceed the measurement I got.. for example if I need a 5” bend And use a 30 degree bend I’ll multiple that by 2 so I’ll get 10” between bends. When I finally do the bend I’ll get maybe 8 or more inches instead of 5.. it’s so annoying
@RonKipperDatacomm1
@RonKipperDatacomm1 4 жыл бұрын
Antonio sounds like you just need a little more practice! Have fun Ron
@illestofdemall13
@illestofdemall13 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like you might be bending beyond the 30 degree mark so you are getting a larger offset.
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