I laughed out loud at this comment 😂

Lol . Its true

And despite all those contrasts, they’re both still Survivor legends :) just goes to show that no matter how good you are, if luck is not on your side, you won’t win.

@CaptainAwesomesworld they choose weak people on purpose, plus they dont even have long before they start filming kid

@CaptainAwesomesworld I mean, after Panama she probably had no reason to believe she'd be invited back, and by the time she was she probably didn't have that much advance notice to actually get in shape, especially since in the final two she had to face off against Parvati and Amanda, two players who're definitely good at physical challenges, in an endurance based challenge.

Hi! I love your channel

Eager Turtle .

True

@eager turtle as a egg sucker would say, “that would make the raro people go mental.......mental”

Lmao Parvati one the legends of Survivor was even one of those screwed by Cook Islands’ rigging to make sure white people don’t win.

Eh, Ozzy is seen as the best challenge beast in the game's history any way.

And Bob.

Jenny, you were totally robbed! Would love to see you get a second shot some day, you were playing a pretty great game until that bottle mysteriously appeared out of Jeff's back pocket.

Idoled Out Thanks! Hope so!!

It's hard to know how to rank any of these twists since they all had their own unique way of spoiling the dynamics. 🙄 So nice to hear from you, though, and I hope you get a second chance as well!

You were robbed.

😲Omg!

I was thinking the same think. That was just R O U G H

Advantages are not twists. This is a TWIST video. Pay some goddamn attention, good lord.

@@ThorHC11 The fact that everyone had an advantage was considered a twist. And piss off with your attitude. Get a life.

@@janelle1701 That wasn't a twist. It was hoarding. And it would be lauded as one of the greatest episodes of Survivor if anyone other than Cirie got screwed over.

@@rokeYouuer I have to disagree. The increasing volume and emphasis on idols and advantages were divisive at best well before Advantageddon. I saw mockery like "outidol, outadvantage, outtwist" thrown around frequently. Someone getting eliminated with 0 votes probably would have been more palatable if it wasn't a fan favorite, but I simply can't see that being universally lauded by the fandom.

Totally agree..Cirie & Ozzy are the two legends of Survivor who never won ..each one of them played 4 times , not expected to see them again.

I don’t think Ozzy was robbed though. Yul played a better game, Ozzy wasn’t as strategic and that’s a huge part of the game.

ezmac82 did you not watch the video? lol

omar adil he said recently if he’s asked to play again he will. And Jeff said a few years back he still can’t believe how popular he is after game changers so not ruling out Ozzy yet

Mark Jackson yes and I don’t think Ozzy was screwed by the final 3 change. In reality Yul would’ve been the one screwed.

@@benfreedman8509 i am binging Survivor now on Hulu. What season was this?

@@kennethcole1886 Micronesia (season 16)

@@kennethcole1886 same im on season 17. which one are you on

What happened to Shee ann was fucking BS. that tribe treated her so badly then she got massively screwed by a twist. She was also the only interesting person left. Everyone else was boring as shit. I looked up who won (probably the least memorable person out of all the least memorable people). And just skipped the rest of the season.

The hourglass twist pisses me off so much, it goes against the absolute core element of Survivor. I'm happy Danny had the balls to speak up about it, even though I'm sure he's now on their "do not bring back" list because of it.

I feel like the hourglass could’ve been done a lot better, like time would reverse and the two groups would be redrawn and then compete or something. The main issue with the hourglass though is how there’s no real reason not to do it other than fear your tribe mates will be upset. But either way people get upset, and one could help better your game, so you pick it. If there was a benefit to not breaking it or a downside for breaking it, I think it would be a lot better and more balanced. It was a cool concept, but it’s not balanced enough for it to be great.

Honestly you can say this about the other hourglass eliminated player, Lydia: at the bottom of the merge tribe there were Romeo Chantelle and Tori, who all gain immunity even if Tori was the only one to actually win challenges that episode. Everyone that could have been voted out had a great social play so Lydia just got eliminated for being the weakest link of them I guess

Also, Sydney was on the bottom, unlike Lydia

@@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong bro danny is a boring no lying no cheating kinda season 2 ass player. If he got his way there probably would not even be idols.

And he now has an Only Fans he advertises on his Twitter. Dude still looks fine as hell these days. He also demolished his competition, I couldn't care less about his job.

@@DieAlteistwiederda you mean he has an Ozzy Fans

Dang he knew people would pay for an OnlyFans of him climbing trees and fishing

Indeed #BringBackMichelleYi

Agreed

Agreed

Ben was the first time - really the only time - I have ever legitimately thought that Survivor was rigged. SO blatant.

Sean Wooldridge I remember before the twist was revealed, when Jeff teased it, I joked with my friends that it was gonna be that Ben automatically made it to the end, and then that actually happened

Winners at War made it clear that Ben was fixed to win that season. He has no idea how to play Survivor

Wow you guys are mega Ben haters. They had many tribals to get him out, but were too lazy to look for idols. That's why he found 3 in a row. He was the top threat from the merge onward, and they failed to get him out. And he still had to win fire, and they were lucky he put an upside down U in the final challenge. It's ridiculous to decide something is "rigged" on the basis of not liking a player. There are many forms of lucky in the game, and every winner has gotten lucky at some point.

@@annacleverley307 just like this comment has made it clear how clueless ben haters are

J'tia was robbed by having rice around camp to throw in the fire

J'tia was robbed by having only 5 tribemates instead of having 7 or 9

J'tia was robbed by being put in Brains tribe instead of Flops tribe.

J'tia was robbed when the Brian's couldn't build a shelter

hahahaha you and all the other commenters here made me laugh

That was an advantage screw over, NOt a twist

Colton probably had pre-game alliances with people. And since Candace is a last minute addition, they probably perceived her to be the easy vote.

M. Alif Aryaguna Totally. Plus Colton is a complete non-threat, 0 physical game, arguably negative social game, etc. Candice was a young, attractive, athletic woman who had already proven to have an incredible social game in Cook Island. Also just to show the BvW pre-game alliances were definitely a thing, the reason Tina and Vytas blew up at Gervase and Tyson after the Aras vote, Bc the 5 of them and their partners were in a pre-game alliance, this why the typically cool, calm and collected Tina went off.

candice is a big threat and already a survivor icon by that time, but unlike rupert and tina, she have a bad reputation which why she got voted out. the twist was dumb af. i feel bad for jonathan wanda candice and rupert

Alex James it has to be just the alliance thing. It makes no sense to keep a weak player (because you think they’re an easy vote or a goat) before the merge if you still need to win challenges as a tribe.

The only reason Colton would go is for being annoying

ya should be in number 1, like people asked you how u get eliminated out , like how u ansewr that question lol

i would agree but that wasn’t a twist, it was just a bunch of advantages. she for sure would be first if that was the case

Speaking of Game Changers I was surprised Malcolm didn't make this list.

@@cdawg4021 yeah!! same

Thank you!

@@JennyGBYoga OMG hi Jenny! 🥰

@@trashbins7798 hi there!☺️

@@JennyGBYoga hope they will invite you back soon! :) a huge fan here, kababayan 🇵🇭

@@trashbins7798 I hope so too!

The challenges were literally rigged for them though.

aitu four are rigged

@@a.jdeets5527 I am curious, what makes you say that? That is prob my fav season of survivor. Watching the Aitu 4, the underdogs, make it to the final 4.

Excuse me the challenges were not rigged, it just so happens that Ozzy and Yul were the beasts in every challenges. How dare you🤬🤬🤬

@@elizabetharmada4038 Adam and Nate could not keep up with them 🤣🤣🤣

Well even if this didn’t happen she would have been gone next.

MLB JOEY no because the men and women numbers would be equal. And Stephenie only voted against her because she knew the guys were voting against her. If Stephenie remained loyal, or if by some miracle Ulong won, Angie would probably stick around. Plus, Angie and Stephenie needed one vote, so they could probably sway Bobby Jon because James was weaker

yes totally agree, would love to see her get a second chance and I think had Ibreheim gone like he was supposed to Ulong might have won the next immunity

RIP ANGIE

How did that screw him I’m so confused?

Nail Polish he showed his threat level.

gtac13 I think he showed his threat level easily by first impressions. From his appearance on first glance, you could tell he was a brilliant guy and I think his performance on the slide puzzle challenge only proved and validated this observation.

what he's the one that said that he created a algorithm for puzzles. lots of people are good at puzzles and if you dont announce it a lot of people dont notice.

Love your videos!

Malcolm was screwed in Game Changers because JT was an idiot.

Roman Zolanski you have no idea how a season would end up. This is the dumbest thing ever. If she were so smart maybe she turns on earl and goes out.

Michele was one of the only likable players during that season imo

I don’t think so, Earl and Yau were the only ones from that season to be contacted for other seasons. Shame though, she was put in a pretty impossible situation

I think she was asked back for heroes vs villains but declined

She was one of the only likeable players during Fiji imo

Nah it probably rubbed showrunners the wrong way that she had the train ran on her in ponderosa by the four horsemen 😂😂

Bji * are you serious?

That season would have been a lot better if ulong wasn’t a complete train wreck

Really after what happend to Ulong? All thought I will say production made a horrible decision not doing tribe swap after witnessing Ulong losing strick. They did not screw a player but an entire tribe. Also I heard a rumor that instead of Stephanie/Bobby Jon original plan was to place Wanda/Jonathan to compete in Guatemala. Also to add insult to injury no merge feist for Koror. Stephanie was sent to their camp with no food or anything. So Koror inhaliate Ulong with out any reward

@@popmans9999 What are you talking about? Koror won a crap ton of rewards. A shower. Cleaning products. A fortified shelter made by pros, and plenty of food rewards. They were living Survivor luxary. At that point, who cares if there isn't a merge feast?

@@roger_towny_jr True. But no merge fest? Come on

@@popmans9999 The whole point was to give them more incentive to bow out of the immunity challenge for food (which all of them but Tom did.) Then there was a reward where half the tribe got a feast at a festival in which they brought a crap ton of food back to camp for everyone literally a day later.

She probably would’ve won as well

She needs to come back for Second Chances 2!!

Yes!

Ben Faulkner I don't think Charlie and Marcus qualify cuz they weren't screwed that much compared to these people. Also, tribe switches aren't totally unexpected whereas these twists were completely random and unprecedented, plus Marcus could have done many things to save himself on Kota 3.0, and so could've Charlie at Nobag.

Kaoh Rong had the same but they still had final 3

Carlos Bernardo how many quits did they have? i only remember the old guy and the merge medevac one

yeah this is exactly why they did that.

@@carlosbernardo1074 but in koah rong there was only two medevacs. Micronesia had two medevacs and a quit.

Mack Jorgensen there were actually 3. Joe, Caleb and Neil

At the very least, players now know about it ahead of time and can strategize accordingly.

After the 1st one, if someone thinks it’s unfair, then they don’t deserve to win because they didn’t prepare to win Survivor or survive

I like it, assuming the players know ahead of time. The 3 that survive get to represent the 3 pillars of survivor Outwit - have good social game and be taken to the end by the necklace holder Outplay - win the final immunity challenge Outlast - have better survival skills and make a good fire. In practice the “outwit seat” just goes to the goat, but in theory i think its a good representation of the 3 pillars

i don't necessarily like it, but there are winners/finalists that cannot even start fire and are also very lazy at camp, that's why the twist is quite ok to me

I can see him being screwed over in Cook Islands, but how on earth was he screwed over in SP when he even needed a twist to save him after he had been eliminated and he then lost fair and square in an immunity challenge?

This one still hurts..... Ozzy should Have won South Pacific... Damn you Sophie!!!!

Voted out thrice. No returnee from redemption should win. He failed socially by being a bully to cochran causing him to flip. And hes never been good strategically.

No, idoling someone out is just playing an idol successfully and voting someone out

LOLz

Exactly she never even got to be on a tribe

I think after 3 widow brigade formed production changed their mind and said if they make it to final 3 will do final 2

popmans9999 No the reason they switched from a final 3 to a final 2 was because James got evacuated late in the game. That threw off production’s plans and had them vote out an extra person.

Nick Wuebker Katie in BvW and Jessica from MvGX both got the same twist screw.

Paschal's situation was unfair but it could've been avoided if he'd flipped on Neleh and made it unanimous.

@@elijahculper5522 The thing was that Paschal was sent home in something that would never happen in a modern season. Paschal's elimination was why the fire making tie-breaker was made.

I think the rock draw rule was known to the players at the time (even though it was the first time viewers saw it). That is all the players had a fair shot at preparing for the situation.

@@airtempest8945 no the rock draw is still there until final 5 or something

he found those idols on his own you idiot. and did you not see the tribal where mike went home?

@@lafingscarecrow I know he found those idols on his own, but have you not seen the speculation about production keeping him with that twist? There was no way the three of them would take him to the final.

@@strawberrymermaid8825 they had that twist planned before the season started, and if ben had won that immunity challenge, that were going to do it anyway. there is zero proof of production favoring ben.

@@lafingscarecrow that's why I said "speculation", and a lot of people think it was rigged, and that production kept him because they wanted him to win the season. Also you can search up "was Ben's win on survivor unfair", and you get a lot of articles.

@@strawberrymermaid8825 a lot of articles that are nothing but bullshit

Finally someone agrees with me. Shawn was screwed aswell

Your’e right about that but I don’t think she would have won that challenge either way.

Big Chill aras was not getting medivaced. He would have went to the hospital and came back for tribal

Wait that happen? Now that is a really unfair twist. I though Tony getting extorsion was bad enough. It seems part to is need it

But Jamal made final 12 tho... So how did he lose his vote if it occurred at final 10? Edit: Yeah you got some stuff wrong buddy. Jamal didn't even go home in a 5-4 vote on island of the idols.

Uh he actually went home 6-3-2 so not really that close...

i agree that it was unfair but it would not have changed the fact that he went home

That wasn’t a twist though, just a horrible move from his ally. I wonder, is there a video about contestants who got screwed by their allies? I’d put him at number one on that countdown

#BringBackMichelleYi

I second you

#BringBangMichelleYi

Has she ever been asked to come back? I’m surprised she’s never been back.

She always fall to the ground

HHH would be a top tier season if it wasn’t for that twist. Ben would be the fallen angel who played a really interesting game but ultimately couldn’t be saved by yet another idol. And as mentioned in this video, the final 3 would be super exciting seeing as any one of them could’ve won with a solid FTC speech.

@@noahs5636 I watch that and I was like No!!!! Also it seems production wanted Ben to win so bad

the twist was very lucky for Ben, but Chrissy and the others deserved to lose. none of them stayed up to keep tabs on Ben’s idol hunting. 4 v 1. they had all the power they needed to keep him from finding idols, but got careless because they had the numbers.

SeaStar It shouldn’t be possible to find a hidden idol every three days. The point of an idol is to buy a little time, or take out a big target; it shouldn’t be a viable strategy to find an idol every episode and coast to the end. When an idol is played, it should be removed from the game. It’s kind of ridiculous that production put as many idols in play as they did that season. And it wasn’t really that unreasonable for the cast to assume that eventually, production would stop hiding idols after one was played at so many consecutive tribal councils. In a regular season where the producers didn’t have such an obvious favorite, they wouldn’t have hidden another idol after Ben had them at two consecutive tribal councils. They shouldn’t have had to babysit Ben because there shouldn’t have been an idol for him to find in the first place.

SeaStar ben would’ve been voted out no matter what at final 4 if there wasn’t the fire making challenge so no they didn’t deserve to lose lmao

I blame the cry baby for that. Jonathan and James med evacs were unfortunate, but the cry baby could have toughed it out.