Improving upon the 25 cent Glock trigger job

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8 жыл бұрын

Contrary to popular belief, you are NOT going to screw up a stock trigger bar with a Dremel, or even with a fine file. The Glock trigger bar is NOT a precision piece. They're crudely stamped from mild steel and thrown into a bin. I have polished dozens & dozens of them so far and have not found one yet that did not need the firing pin safety ramp slightly filed to remove the stamping/shearing ridges. Yes, you can of course polish the entire trigger bar if you want, but it's not necessary. Some will argue that the right hand side near the connector needs polishing as well, but the contact pressure there is basically nothing, meaning polishing that area will offer zero benefit. As I've said, polish whatever you want. I just wanted to make this video to show everyone the absolute minimum they need to do.

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@base935 7 жыл бұрын

I've had great luck with Q-TIPS broken in half into the Dremel, low-speed- disposable polishing pads!

@gcflower99 4 ай бұрын

Great video! I once had an old machine shop guy tell me he disassembles his new guns and puts valve lapping compound on the friction surfaces and puts about 200 rounds through the gun. He said it is real obvious if any more polishing needs to be done and where.

@nnamrehck 4 жыл бұрын

"Don't get this stuff in your eyes. Flitz burns really bad" - sounds like the voice of experience.

@kimmorrison9169 7 ай бұрын

file, chamfer the stamped rough parts to smooth out the action. Then polish with metal polish. Get these small diamond file sets at Harbor Freight for a couple bucks. It works!

@dmarque 2 жыл бұрын

I've sat through a few Videos on Trigger Modification and yours is a favorite. I appreciated your detailed reasoning and instruction on addressing this procedure. Thanks for taking the time to do this.

@reric456 4 ай бұрын

All I will ever need to do is the whole dang thing. It looks cool totally polished even though you don't "need" to

@johnanderson3475 2 жыл бұрын

from the future: polishing the bar on the outside makes more sense with the gen5. it has ambi slide catch the bar rubs on. ✌️

@progressivegunowner8066 6 жыл бұрын

Before I did my first 25cent trigger job I checked out about 10 different videos and this is by far the best one just like you trigger guard undercut video. Thanks for the help.

@JohnHorvath73 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for taking the time to let me know that! Glad I could help you!

@Brucey69 Жыл бұрын

Surprisingly good camera work

@noncompliant209cali 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Rounding and polishing the trigger bar fin and safety plunger always makes the biggest difference on my P80 builds

@baldeagleApiaries 2 жыл бұрын

nice short video with great information. thanks and keep them coming.

@mikebaker3662 Жыл бұрын

Simple,wells aid and to the point! Well done Sir !

@robsaxepga 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the filing tip... That makes total sense. I use a Dremel to polish mine too.

@omicrondec 6 жыл бұрын

Practical. Straightforward. Works. Thanks for the great video!

@Kh2456 8 жыл бұрын

Best .25 cent trigger job video on youtube. Thanks a lot man.

@JohnHorvath73 8 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Kyle! I'll be doing more videos once my busy season slows down. Please subscribe!

@doddgarger6806 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah you can see the lines from the stamping process , I used a diamond hone block to knock the edges down and rouge with a Dremel wheel Then add the $18 connector and spring set and wow

@dannpd1955 5 жыл бұрын

Good video. Good presentation and info. Thanks for putting it out..

@mksthill 5 жыл бұрын

First, really good video. I like your approach. Second, just so you will know, that "nipple" on the trigger bar was also on the "early" Gen 3s, or at least on mine. You mention something to the effect that the nipple was introduced with the Gen 4s. My early Gen 3 Glock 30, purchased new around 1997, has has that nipple. Some refer to the early Gen 3 as Gen 2.5 (it has the finger grooves but lacks the accessory rail), but it seems Glock recognizes it as a Gen 3.

@chrisfrerichs8360 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks you for the vid John Horvath. I used this one for my 43 and now I've come back for my 26. One question I have, I notice that you do not touch the back of the striker as I've seen in other videos. Do you feel it's not necessary or?? Thanks again for the simple and straightforward vid!!

@aeroscout8409 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. Suggest 1000-1500 grit sand paper for cleaning the burrs..... Got it from another post....

@legalsolutions07 8 жыл бұрын

Very good video. I'm not a big fan of polymer guns but I just bought a G19. I was not impressed with the trigger pull weight or the gritty feel so I'm looking forward to completing a full trigger polish job. I did the same to my Sig Sauer P226 and P220 and it is amazing what polishing trigger components can do.

@JohnHorvath73 8 жыл бұрын

Yep, polishing simply makes a new gun feel like it's had 6000 rounds through it, which is nicely broken in! Please subscribe!

@anthonycesario4056 3 жыл бұрын

Good information. Thank you.

@Renrondog 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video, thank you for taking the time and trouble to make it. I will add if you pull out the firing pin safety and spring {Yours was a Lone Wolf} and clean out that channel with a Q-tip and some Flitz it will greatly smooth out it's drag.

@deplorabledave1048 3 жыл бұрын

Johnny Glocks recommends a WOLFF 5.0 lb striker spring. It does not bind like the stock Glock striker spring. As far as Lone Wolf goes, I LOVE their UAT trigger shoe and bar combo. (Black with red safety tang) It is a billet, gently curved trigger with adjustments for pre and over travel. Less than $100 shipped.

@PockeTanK 8 жыл бұрын

Good info. Like how you gave your honest opinion.

@JohnHorvath73 8 жыл бұрын

+Pocket_Tank.45 I'm glad you're one of the few who actually like my honesty. It's got me in trouble a number of times. lol

@dsfarag 6 жыл бұрын

VERY WELL EXPLAINED!

@matthewhickey3856 8 жыл бұрын

Nice i get the first comment on what i found to be a very helpful video and this is not my first trigger job thanks for your outlook

@geesea6455 5 жыл бұрын

Great info man.

@Snowy0123 3 жыл бұрын

Johnny Glock has something to say about"stock" triggers..

@isaakjunkeer785 2 жыл бұрын

I’d have something to say about “stock” triggers too if I was charging clowns $350+ for a drop in kit! Then another $150 for good sights… Why don’t you just buy a good gun to start?

@nolagospeltracts8264 Жыл бұрын

@@isaakjunkeer785 Because people who buy Glocks don't actually like Glocks.

@knockout35189 4 жыл бұрын

Would this make a difference in trigger pull lbs as well?

@Dsabre1 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! I polished my G48 and there was a noticable difference in the trigger. Quick question is the polishing a once and done?

@Tducks72 Жыл бұрын

From what I’ve read and heard from multiple sources is yes. One time thing.

@lenwilson7321 5 жыл бұрын

I use to do polish jobs on my Glocks but now realize it's a waste of time. I used dremel, Flitz, Mother's Billet metal polish, changed to LoneWolf 3.5lb connectors and 6lb trigger spring but now realize the factory trigger is fine and I spend my money on better sights, extra ammo, mags and range time.

@JohnHorvath73 5 жыл бұрын

Nowadays, I tend to agree, as all the polishing really does is make the trigger feel as if it's well worn in. I don't mind polishing for new shooters, or someone who's just bought their first Glock.

@frankiegunnz8066 5 жыл бұрын

@@JohnHorvath73 How long does It take?

@hunter40447 6 жыл бұрын

thanks great help

@ohvblue 7 жыл бұрын

ever do a trigger pull test?

@MrRourk 7 жыл бұрын

Ever seen a Mini Shah Stone for Jewlers?

@daspiper8941 4 жыл бұрын

I've earmarked this video for future reference. I'm 70 and I don't remember details very well. I often forget details after five or so years.

@KM_1983 4 жыл бұрын

Try iodine and tumeric extract. I works miracles with memory and other great health benefits.

@Strengthandconditioning60 5 жыл бұрын

I like to use a wood rasp file and 80 grit sandpaper on all the internals. Then I hit the rails with my bench grinder to make it all work smoothly. The fact that it fires full auto half the time only attests to my superior gunsmithing abilities. And everyone who owns a Glock knows that the the slide flys off and hits you in the face every once in a while. 😂 Seriously, I use Hoppes #9 mixed with JB bore non embedding paste to polish the internals. Works great. Good video. My edit is: subbed

@steveoconnor1527 4 жыл бұрын

I cracked up reading this. Funny guy.

@pressenda1834 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for a very informative video! A small question: The tongue of the trigger bar that makes contact with the connector, does it need filing like you did with the firing pin safety? Thanks.

@JohnHorvath73 6 жыл бұрын

No! Please do not file that!

@davidgiles9751 8 жыл бұрын

Good video! I've done a 25 cent trigger job to 5 Glocks now. While some would argue it's not necessary, I honestly think it's well worthwhile. I think the benefit of polishing the rough edges off the stamped parts is that it lessens the possibility of uneven wear due to rough part surfaces rubbing against each other.

@drewmorg. 5 жыл бұрын

I get enjoyment out of target shooting slow fire at the range with my Glocks. Under combat training or rapid fire I doubt it makes a difference, but for precision it must.

@powskier 4 жыл бұрын

Instead of a file, what about a block with 600 grit sandpaper?

@sergeiokatieff1060 3 жыл бұрын

600 - 800 - 1000 - 1500 grits

@darylchristensen4664 5 жыл бұрын

How often / many rounds would you suggest performing this action?

@moxine_ 4 жыл бұрын

I know this is an old comment but It's best to do on brand new triggers since all this does is break them in faster.

@blueyesterday3920 2 жыл бұрын

At a medium pace.

@sergeiokatieff1060 3 жыл бұрын

I like your T-shirt

@dracoseason3784 Жыл бұрын

the only thing I do to my triggers is file the corner ledge of the connector down to reduce the trigger pull. I've got a complete custom build with a 2 lb break that is sweet

@myfamily4604 Жыл бұрын

You to make a video showing how you do that.

@solstralen6584 7 ай бұрын

Never remove material on the top off the part that presses on the fieringpin safty.. If it isent puschd Down far enough it will damage the fieringpin

@brianleabo6295 3 жыл бұрын

Files harbor freight or granger . I can not tell you how many so-called .25 trigger jobs . That I have had to fix or replace after guys tried it them self . Worse glock I ever seen was a younger guy super glued his trigger safety. Then used a a power wheel to grind his trigger bar . This guy could not understand way he dropped it and it fired . Wish I had photos or a video of it . All said and done I ha to get a all new trigger assembly. And trigger housing and under cut and stipple the frame .

@ragnaroksangel 2 жыл бұрын

Stippling is stupid and looks like complete and total shit. Not one stipple job aside from laser stippling looks good. Not one. It also permanently ruins the gun. Stippling looks like some stupid shit an 8 year old would do.

@telethom4982 7 жыл бұрын

Finally. someone who actually knows Glock triggers. Just for grins, do a YT search for a cross section of a Glock firing system. John is right on. And WRT to a Dremel, unless you run yours at Mach 3, you'll do no damage. Go slow and speed up as you learn. Good vid, John.

@pwpollaccia 7 жыл бұрын

Will this void the warranty?

@JohnHorvath73 7 жыл бұрын

p pollaccia I'm not 100% sure, but most say no. Though, even if it does void your warranty the odds of needing warranty work on your Glock are about 50,000 to 1. Yes, that number is total guess, but I would imagine it's pretty realistic.

@imtherealjoeyd 7 жыл бұрын

I've spent lots of time doing exactly what you show...trigger pull doesn't feel an ounce different..

@JohnHorvath73 7 жыл бұрын

Joey D Do you want your money back? :D

@jbhickok7796 6 жыл бұрын

John Horvath Your an ass wipe. Another wannabe Glock know it all who doesn't really know shit worth knowing or doing. Joey called you out and you know it.

@jamesw9930 5 жыл бұрын

It does not take weight off of the pull, it eliminates some of the 'gritty crunchy' feel during the take up. If you want to reduce weight, you need to swap parts, which runs in price from ~$5 up to about $1M dollars, depending on your lawyer.

@dwheeler016 5 жыл бұрын

Nice job. I have some Glocks be smooth right out of the box and others feel like gravel. When you say "we" are you talking about you and Luke Skywalker?

@brianleabo6295 3 жыл бұрын

Also good is mother's mag polosh and blue magic polish .

@kevincharles9159 2 жыл бұрын

Not if they have ammonia in them. Glock says not to use polishes with ammonia. Buffing compound bars are what you want

@xenomorph1317 2 ай бұрын

‘It simulates thousands of rounds’ If you do this don’t you shorten the life off those parts?

@18winsagin 5 жыл бұрын

Good information. Think I will stay with factory though, I'm not the best on triggers but shot an AR type rifle (Short Barrel)a guy had done a lot of upgrades etc and the trigger was so light that I fired several times when I really didn't intend, down range of course bc I was Leary to start with, the trigger was very responsive and no creep etc with quick reset. Whatever they done it was great but for me I couldn't be comfortable with it especially for home/self Defense but a blast to shoot, it was a Daniel Defense Rifle but required a particular License to possess it from what I was told.

@paulhomsy2751 5 жыл бұрын

There is a marked difference between a trigger intended for precision shooting strictly at the range and one for defense. The manufacturers themselves point you to each type and their different pull weights. The "range" triggers have a lighter pull by about 2 to 3 pounds compared to the others. The whole premise is that under stress one is much less likely to feel the weight of a trigger and it is a lot safer to have a firearm with a heavier trigger pull.

@skimlord88 5 жыл бұрын

YER DAMN FINGER IS YOUR SAFETY SONNY

@Mr.NEStalgia 4 жыл бұрын

Mk18

@darylragland1502 Жыл бұрын

Glock perfection and bring it home and work on it like hell

@JohnHorvath73 Жыл бұрын

It all depends on you feel Glock means by perfection. Providing you're not a shallow thinking individual, an inexpensive firearm that is excellent for home defense, concealed carry, countless Law Enforcement agencies, as well as being the perfect platform for end user modificaton can very easily be described as perfection.

@darylragland1502 Жыл бұрын

You just described a Walter

@jamesselvage4387 Жыл бұрын

@@darylragland1502 Walther???

@squattingturtle7976 3 жыл бұрын

this video paid for by crunchy treats....

@scottporter4865 6 жыл бұрын

Any relation to Andy Horvath?

@JohnHorvath73 6 жыл бұрын

Scott Porter No, sir.

@larrykelley1818 5 жыл бұрын

When you pointed out the piece you called a nub is there a actual name for that

@robertcruz5507 3 жыл бұрын

guys... just shoot your gun. parts that need to be smooth will naturally smooth itself out. you remove too much metal from the wrong parts, its going to cause a lot more problems.

@maurimaciel7793 2 жыл бұрын

Yea I agreee with the firing part but then again most of us can afford the ammo for it to shoot 100s or 1000s of rounds or DONT have much time to go fire them lol but I do think it’s better to just fire it than to mess with sanding down parts and stuff. Rn I got bulks of 556 and 223 for my AR but don’t have the time to got shoot it luckily it has no problems same for my 80%arms 9mm build. Rn The problem I’m having with it is that it will reset the trigger but when I pull it it won’t fire. And some times it won’t load a round like it gets stuck under the slide.

@hansvollman6987 6 ай бұрын

Always entertaining to watch internet dudes vandalize their firearms and then spam a bunch of threads asking why their Glock doesn't work anymore. I can do all this by simply shooting the gun and I don't have to potentially wreck my internals. And if you can't shoot the gun enough to where it polishes itself, then you obviously don't shoot enough for Bubba's trigger job to have any impact.

@user-tu3bs9xu4s Ай бұрын

@hansvollman6987, You win best comment award !

@billcaddell3848 2 жыл бұрын

Filling your glock internals is playing with fire, especially if your not a gunsmith.

@Elmojomo 2 жыл бұрын

I think you mean playing with *files* ;) Also,

@chipsterb4946 2 жыл бұрын

Especially the vertical extension where it disengages the firing pin safety plunger. Take off too much material and your gun might not reliably go BANG when you pull the trigger. Bill’s rule applies to ANY firearm - not just Glocks. Applying a fine ceramic stone to the edge of the vertical extension to smooth it out is fine. It would take you all day to remove enough material to cause a problem. There is one surface in a Glock action that I have had to use a very fine file on but I’m not about to discuss that with the general public.

@everettthoman2097 5 жыл бұрын

Stock trigger is just fine with me no work done at all i have some friends with all the upgrades and polished triggers and i still out shoot them with stock and non polished components. Lol its all in the finger

@elarr8733 4 жыл бұрын

I rub a little Flitz in my eyes and then out shoot everybody with the stock gun. It's so rewarding! ::tears streaming::

@anonypersona3189 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but you'd shoot even better if your internals were polished. Seriously, a smoother trigger can only help you.

@colecole3352 3 жыл бұрын

I am a retired DT and Combat instructor. Me and my wife just had this conversation.I had just went through a build for a friend. On a p80 17. I can promise you that weapon is better than stock and a upgraded weapon. You are wasting your money with bells and whistles on these.I promise you! He saved 600$ and is good to go! With just proper knowledge.Glocks are ment to work. Not all the other shit.

@jtku4057 Жыл бұрын

This video would be so much better if you would just slow down and take the time to show the parts you're talking about instead of talking and moving and not allowing the viewer to get a better picture of what you want.