It was so calming. I dozed off a couple times 😂

That whispering bit for sure!😁

I thought I was the only one.. definitely made me doze off 😅

It’s definitely not. It’s trash

ASMAAAAHHHHH

Exactly 30 minutes top

The yoga kill had me cackling because of how little she tried to run

The theater I was in had only nine people and I was the only one that laughed. I thought "Dang, am I really that disturbed?"

​@@noelkempsterit's like she gave up instantly XD. No duck and roll around him or even just tumbling down that cliff to the river (totally doable tbh). She was like "nah, my time has come" LMAO

@@krismarshall3803 she ran for .2 seconds and then just stood there lmao

@@noelkempster for real she just gave up, it was SO funny

I loved Vickie from Friday The 13th part 2. So cool she’s in this movie

very cool throwback! Wish they did her scene in a better way though..

I agree!

Right!!!! I was expecting her to talk about that scene but no. Honestly the yoga one fucked me up!

The audience reaction was mixed, some were like that’s messed up, one guy kept laughing at every kill scene

@@ashchase8340 yeah I kinda laugh with glee when I see good kills so I get that

Hot take: The Yoga kill was like the 2nd or 3rd best kill in the movie. I was honestly more impressed with the rock because it was hard to tell how in the hell they did it and the woodcutting one.

Yeah I love how brutal art is haha

I disagree. Was the only kill in the movie when I felt like I was watching a snuff film with a bunch of people in the theater. The other kills were bloody great though.

see i was expecting way worse from that kill too. i thought maybe he would put the guy in the machine to where it would split him down the middle crotch first or something absolutely insane like that.

​@spartan5285 staring at a mannequin for 5 mins isn't what comes to mind when I think "Snuff film".

@@jadesmediacorner I was totally expecting him to go scrote to throat. Kinda disappointed he didn’t.

Lol, just watch Terrifier 2 if all you want to see are gruesome kills.

@@kiillabytez Definitely was not the only reason I said I wanted to watch it or recommended it, and the kills in Terrifier 2 are just gruesome whereas the kills in this movie were creative and different, AND gory.

@@merlinho0t They were okay. I still say that the kills in High Tension were better and more visceral and terrifying.

I think the ending was the girl realizing that even though she’s escaped, she looks into the woods and thinks Johnny’s still coming. I think it’s her realizing she survived, but was it worth it? She’s never gonna feel safe again.

that movie was way more intense than this. This didn't really work for me and people were def cracking up laughing at most of the kills.

I see where you'd think that, but it's not the same as this movie. This is literally his POV from a third person perspective.

About 20 minutes into the movie someone in the row behind me told their friend they felt like they were watching them play the Friday the 13th video game lol😂

@@djdepression Not making a correlative statement, just pointing out another slasher from the killer's perspective because Sarah said it was the first time for the subgenre. Additionally, Peeping Tom is another key example (and actually the first).

Nightmare is another slasher goodie that is from the Killer's POV predominantly.

@@illmeans that is sick

😮😮😮😮😮

Yeah, it killed the tension for too long. A shorter version of that story would have been for the better.

Yes! The end sequence was incredibly tense for me. You spend the whole movie within relative safety only for it to shift and become dangerous all of a sudden.

It went on for SO long, after the head I was like PLEASE don't cut anything else off it's taking forever.

No the bear suffered from a rampage disease that just makes it go apeshit and try to kill anything. Johnny is the same type but is an angry spirit in a zombie form

Her story is most likely about an actual animal. But it's used as a parallel to Johnny's story.

OMG! I felt the same way. This scene was so unsettling because it seemed so….. real. Horrific. No music. No jokes. No one liners.

Are we 100% sure that it's Jonny and not his dad? Remember the film is full of misinformation about Johnny's origin. At the very least they seem to agree that Johnny was not just a kid but a "child". There's nothing child size about that revenge zombie.

⁠@@SanFranDentist94301it seemed to me like johnny was supposed to also be a kind of leatherface type. like both just naturally really physically large for their age and probably closer to a teenager in age but in some way mentally impaired (hopefully that’s the correct term? i’m not entirely sure) which makes them both childlike in nature (no pun intended) as well as both growing up in an environment that was not sympathetic to their mental impairments (save for johnny’s father) which would likely cause them to revert even further back into a childlike state. cause when he’s referred to as a child it seems mostly coddling coming from his dad and condescending coming from others. also i think johnny’s just generally supposed to be much more of an abstract humanoid-monster than a zombie. it seems to me like if anything he’s a physical manifestation of how the community surrounding those woods can taint a place that is so visually beautiful. esp bc there’s smth abt the way he looks that blends in w the rest of the landscape, almost like when he got up from the ground he took some of it w him. idk if any of this makes sense but that’s just how i saw it lol

@@averyc8761 it does. I don't agree with all of it but you explained yourself well. I think MM was just a very strong normal man. Or possibly like a lot of people on the spectrum his perception of pain is markedly different. Remember the pre credit scene of Halloween MM is a normal sized little boy and teen. Jason was basically normal but husky. But Jason X reconned that in a delightful way. Jason Voorhees has an advanced healing mutation, that the US and eventually all world governments exploit to turn new genetic humans into fast healing Jasons.

​@SanFranDentist94301 I believe the movie is poking fun at Friday the 13th, and how Jason was a child at the end of the first movie, but a grown dude in the second movie, which takes place a few weeks/months later, and there is zero explanation for this lore wise

It’s a moodpiece. It’s not really “about” the storyline. Works for some people, doesn’t work for others. Imo it was great.

Dude🤣👏🤣👏!

@@ghiajohnson1547 hey Gia why you poopin

Yeah it was that bad!!!!!!

Abigail was actually really good!!!!!

Same

Same

same, the sound design was so good and comfy feeling. That was my fav part along with the shots and a few specific kills.

I did mind the ending, cause like why tf are we supposed to care about this character who pretty much did nothing the whole film, after following the killer the rest of the time? Movie should’ve just ended at her escaping and save us like 20 minutes

@@Thecleetusi kind of agree w both of you two. the ending was a slog in a sense but i do like that throughout the movie you do at least a little bit feel for johnny due to him being a traumatized youth, then that being complicated by the ending hammering home the trauma he’s caused to another innocent youth. i think if anything it shows that there is smth promising in this directors future in the genre

i would say it’s pretty suspenseful but all of the characters make such stupid decisions it kinda nullifies the suspense but still a very unique movie

​@@andlifeissuchablurAh, okay. I'll check it out. Thanks!

Lot of horror gets tiring. Most is copy and paste, this was different

I feel like behind the mask, the rise of leslie vernon did a good job, but I can see why that wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea. It's more of a comedy/slasher.

@@andrewalvarado5350 plus idk 2006 felt weird for that type of horror

YES! THIS! This was the whole point of the ending if not the entire film. I was shocked Sarah thought she was "going on and on about nothing". That woman is talking about THE THEME of the movie. We're only four walls, a roof, and the thin veil of society away from running thru the dark words screaming in fear like any other animal. The scene of the final girl running in the dark was so traumatic, once she gets out of it you really understand the headspace she's in, plus you're expecting the One Final Scare trope. I was white knuckling the last fifteen minutes and thought how it ended was brilliantly subversive and moving.

Having Johnny be a metaphor for nature is just kind of dumb. Johnny is a dead human killing people to gain his mother's locket back, none of that motif screams "Environmentalist" to me. I can see him as an allegory for animal abuse, specifically wild animals. The first couple of scenes we see a bear trap and a decomposing animal, set up by the hunters son. Idk I see Johnny more of a metaphor for a wild animal, and not so much revenge for climate change.

@@citizenvulpes4562 I mean fair point but wild animals are literally part of nature and usually the mascots for environmentalism and the effects of climate change (see polar bears on melting sea ice, Australian wildlife fleeing bushfires, etc). I think what makes the climate change allegory so apt is the timing … yes throughout human history we’ve had an antagonistic relationship with wildlife but never before have we had this scale of industrial deforestation and other forms of habitat loss. That’s why we’re at the start of what scientists are dubbing the next mass extinction event

I thought the twist was gonna be that the final girl was the killer and she'd been possessed by the necklace cos the way that muffled sound stopped when she gets in the car. I took that as how the killer could hear under the mask etc

@@ericw48 exactly!

@@ericw48 dude that end sequence went on for too long. there was no reason for it to be that long and there was no prior context or showcase of that happening to any other character so that’s not what i felt at all. it felt so built up for absolutely nothing to happen we just had that damn lady try to help final girl not bleed out while she begged to get rushed to the hospital, after what felt like an eternity of some bad dialogue. it’s just the same shot back and fourth there’s no “tension” (if you could even call it that in this snooze fest movie) it felt like every shot was extended to pad time, that campfire scene was especially egregious. this movie sucked man.

I didn't see the ending as a relief. I took it to mean she would always be looking over her shoulder. Like, she looks into the forest at the end, and still imagines he's out there looking back.

you are stunning 😍

see i’m the opposite, i think it’s more interesting to not know where he went lol!

I wished I had been in the theater you were in because I was in a theater with only 9 people and I was the only one who was laughing throughout.

Sounds like a theatre of psychos

@@jamesmarshall6619 I watched it at home alone and I did laugh when he uses the body to smash the glass case at the ranger station, and the body just falls to the floor lifeless. I'm not sure why I found that so funny but I'm glad I didn't have to explain myself to anybody, lol.

Agreed!😀

@@kathybennett2108 🤗

We barely spent any time with the victims so none of them felt "final"

Right, I really expected him to come out of nowhere when the woman was treating her leg. It did make it suspsenseful but I’m kinda glad, it felt less cheap than something popping up

It didn't go over our heads, we just thought it was trash. It's great you liked it. I think it's one of the most boring, and overall worst movies I've ever seen

You’ve piqued my curiosity! I hope to see it tomorrow!

Exactly, it just shows the trauma that girl had endured & is going to continue to endure never actually knowing if he’s coming for her or not

I feel the same. It reminded me of the ending to the first Halloween. Where carpenter said you're supposed to feel his presence everywhere. He's everywhere but nowhere at the same time. A.constant threat no matter where you are.

I'm with you, it was painfully dull. No tension and I didn't care about any characters.

Don't feel like you're not a true horror fan! Not everyone likes the same stuff.

Don't worry about it. As a person who like horror movies I disagree with people all the time.

I loved it but to me it's very easy to see why other people don't like it. To me, all horror movie fans should see it and really, I would only recommend it to horror fans because it's so different. I also disagree that only true horror fans will understand it, I don't think it was that deep, but the movie was made to challenge in a way and it's a movie seemingly made for horror fans with the purpose of testing horror fans on the question of "Do you really want to see what it would be like if we followed Jason?" One way or another this movie kind of answers the question and opinions will be all over the place and it feels like the movie was made to do that, cause opinions to be all over the place. Don't question your horror fan credibility, this movie was unique that an opinion like yours makes perfect sense.

You have an absolute right to your opinion. If you didn't like it you still keep your true horror fan badge 😉

I thought the ending fit perfectly. Really showed her trauma and how she'll never escape it.

I agree with you. I’ve heard from a lot of folks that they felt a ton of tension in the last 10-15 minutes….? That was lost on me. I didn’t feel it, at least not in a significant enough way to warrant that drawn-out sequence. It ended with a sad little whimper for a movie that had some really good tension up until that point.

@@cameronbleecker9072 I think the whole point is that it isn't an ending; because Johnny is a force of nature to the area and his rampages will come time and time again and always continue.

@@opethmike yah the ending was truly amazing

Same the killer doesn’t die she most likely didn’t either at least strangers chapter 1 showed us what happened to her in the post credit scene. The movie is a 7 but it make me think they did to purposely make a sequel

I think the bear was really the killer not a bear

also, i'll nerd out a little with some literary analysis regarding the ending ((so spoilers ahead, obvi)): to start off, i also think it wasn't a strong ending. i think they could have accomplished the same messaging in like 2 minutes of screen time and saved the pacing from feeling so awkward. so, like, i'm not Defending it, just sharing what i took away from it so, a lot of folks understand the classic slashers through the lens of jeffrey jerome cohen's monster culture (seven theses), where the slasher is a cultural body punishing social deviations like teen promiscuity and "rewarding" the purity of a final girl through her survival. this classic formula has become pretty passe at this point, with films like cabin in the woods giving more modern, meta takes on tired tropes. the seven theses is definitely still worth a read though, because it can be applied more generally, and doesn't actually feed into these tropes. it just helps understand what tropes are present in a movie that said, what sets in a violent nature apart is it's reluctance to adhere to certain tropes while sticking to others. there's a blonde girl, yes, but she's not the dumb blonde stereotype. the final girl is in a committed relationship, and there's no reason to think she's a virgin. like, they hit a lot the staples of the genre in clever ways ((the scared girls at the gas station that are mentioned a few times were the portents of death, the ranger is the common mentor/ expert figure and is seeded really early, the body being "hidden" in the ranger station to be found later is a common plot beat, etc)) so it's not like it's trying to completely redefine the genre -- the main thing that's different is the killer's drive and the deaths putting it super simply, this slasher more is like the killers in the strangers than those in halloween or friday the 13th. classic slashers are scary on one level because they kill people (duh) but on another because they're punishing characters for common "transgressions." the really long speech about how bears and other animals sometimes kill for no reason anybody can understand is clearly meant to be applied to johnny, too. like the review mentioned, he seems to kill without a pattern. sometimes torturing people, sometimes killing them quickly and brutally. unlike a lot of classic slashers, he doesn't *really* stab any of his victims ((the hook feels different than a knife, to me at least)), and the lack of stabbing prevents the really common read of an impotent killer using a knife instead of his [redacted for youtube comments, but yknow what i mean haha]. in this movie, characters die just for existing in a certain space. not for anything specific *they've* done. i think this pivot makes a lot of sense in films geared towards an audience raised during the war on terror, where the threat of a third world war is so taken for granted that it's become meme-fodder. i saw a letterboxd review compare this movie to a nature documentary, and i think that's a really interesting perspective -- like, from that pov, this is a very, very nihilistic movie, but also timely in its own way. it's also notable that johnny kills the basically-a-maga hat guy from the beginning and the progressive blonde girl in similarly brutal ways: personal politics don't save anyone ((tbh this felt kinda goofy to me -- the scripting was so awkward for both these characters but it's there, so, *shrugs*)) tbh i think they could have hammered this point home by having johnny leave no survivors and cause a car wreck ((or even by having like a shock ending where the driver kills the final girl)) but alas :-( that ending probably would have pissed a lot of people off just as much as the weird monologue tldr: the idea that johnny is a product of an incomprehensible pattern of nature, like a bear that's killing indiscriminately for no reason, is meant to be scarier to a modern audience than the idea of a more rule-following classic slasher :-) if michael myers and jason vorhees were weird, impotant and puritanical vigilantes, johnny is a natural disaster ahhhh this comment is so long 🙈i hope it's not totally incomprehensible and that someone gets something out of it

And the ending is great because normally the movie would end with the survivor driving off. But realistically you’d be awkwardly sitting there traumatized next to a stranger…

I see your easy to please

Multiple people walked out throughout the movie during my viewing and I couldn’t blame them at all lol

I’m seeing it tomorrow!

Go watch it and review it yourself. 🤓

This is the correct take. The part that 'dragged' for many in the comments was the most tense part of the movie for me. There are definitely tweaks I would make to the movie, but overall I thought it was pretty well done.

Yes! People love this movie and it just was not for me.

Yeah that’s the kill of the year in cinema for sure.

That would be a very cheeky name.

​@thomasffrench3639 canon now. I can't take credit for it, but it's awesome

Jason and Michael are legends. Johnny is the latest. This movie was definitely not an 80's horror movie music video. I thoroughly enjoyed this movie. This reviewer said the kills didn't look real. That comment is laughable as if anyone has ever been killed this way. Besides, I found the level of humor in this movie to be underrated. It gets a 7 out of 10 from me.

The Shape is way more ghostly, which makes him feel more like supernatural entity than a killer. It's not improving on the shape, it's having a different spin. And Frank Zito from Maniac 1980 is a way more interesting character than Michael anyways. Jason is not like Michael Myers at all, and neither is Pamela Voorhees. Not to mention that Halloween already ripped off Black Christmas and Deep Red.

I play dbd on my new phone love sable the new survivor