You're the first person I've seen who finally got the "hipster" connection right. That's what we actually called it then. 👍🏾

yes, as someone who struggles with addiction and is surrounded by addicts, I really don't like seeing the glorification of drugs and alcohol in aesthetics.

it's crazy that i was technically too young to fully participate in this (born in 2002), but i vividly remember seeing my older sister wear similar things to this, but she fell more under the "grunge" subcategory. we would listen to the killers on her pink ipod nano, she would take me to forever 21 where anything with owls (or wolves, idk why don't even ask😭) or chevron print caught my eye, and i would try to recreate her outfits except my children’s clothes didn't really have that "cool" factor that she had :,)

I just discovered „Skins“ like 5 years ago (bc I‘m a bit younger) but I immediately fell in love with Cassie‘s style . I just love that the 2000‘s fashion and Indie Sleaze has a comeback 🥰 I wish I was a teenager during that time, the 2000‘s is my absolute favorite era when it comes to fashion and music . (Btw I know that it was a shitty time in terms of bodyshaming and misogyny. I‘m aware of the fact that I‘m totally romanticizing the era)

I was on the grungier side of indie sleeze but this time frame was bang on my late teens and early twenties and my entire university experience so it just felt like the general fashion at the time to me.

the british tv show waterloo road really showed some off this aesthetic i feel

I went to Sarah Lawrence (basically one of the most hipster schools on the planet) from 2007-2011 - so peak Indie Sleaze in an environment completely consumed by the aesthetic. This is so painfully accurate, lol. So glad you made the hipster connection because at the time this was just quintessential NYC hipster culture.

I was a really introverted teen so I didn't really participate in indie sleaze. Back then I hated myself for not being "cool enough" to be that kind of person, but honestly now I think I dodged a bullet by not getting into partying so young. I still think some aspect of the aesthetic are really fun though, and I love some music of that era, especially electroclash which I feel really fits that whole vibe

34 year old lady here! literally just searched for “Indie Sleaze”on yt because it came on my IG discovery page and i was aghast to see my 19-25 hipster years resurfacing so soon 💀colored tights, wide brim hats, clove cigarettes, those round john lennon glasses were also definitely a thing in the SF hipster scene, also everyone had one tiny tattoo somewhere, a lot of MDMA (more so than cocaine in my experience), & everyone had one tiny tattoo somewhere.

This was my favorite era. I’m 26 so back then it was middle school/early high school for me. When mtv played music still. What a time to be alive, it’s nostalgic lol. And I appreciate the style because it’s realistic

Here’s something from a Gen X indie kid who was there: it wasn’t sleazy. We didn’t have Morris the Garage Gimp fisting a Kate Jackson of The Long Blondes drag tribute on the dance floor while Peter Doherty got his guitar out and improvised a song about it. There were house parties which were fun, especially the after parties that happened after a Greenwich Pirate club night, but it wasn’t like we were smearing ourselves in shit whilst having a piñata with a corpse. It’s over exaggerated. I was involved with a fanzine connected to it and the whole thing was very DIY, inherited from punk. There were people starting record labels, zines and club nights, all of which were very DIY because it could be done and it wouldn’t fit anywhere else. Also, it was fun to have something of your own. It was punk ideas that came to their fruition. Looking back at it, I think it , along with emo and scene kids, was the last hurrah of youth culture being punk rock and experimental (unless you count #4Chan and Incelcore). Then it turned into a hybrid of Little House on the Prairie, The Spies from 1984, Nathan Barley and Beverly Hills 90210.

tbh i kinda thing that the whole sleaziness is a breath of fresh air in cintrast to the current clean girl, it girl, studying, perfection, focusing on your future-culture, especially when there's very little to look forward to.

The keffiyeh (the scarf) is used used to symbolize solidarity with Palestine, so they are usually spread through left (as in left, not American democrat) groups. They were fashionable in Sweden too but they were called "Palestine scarfs" and everyone knew what they stood for. It's very weird that a symbol for Palestine solidarity could become fashionable in the US, especially back then when very few people would have identified as supporters of Palestine.

I was in college and worked at Urban Outfitters at this time. Everyone else we hung out with worked at Betsey Johnson, American Apparel or the “cool” thrift stores. It was soooo slutty. We all slept around with each other while covered in glitter and hungover 😅

It's funny how you don't even think of this stuff as an aesthetic nor a fashion style when you're living in that era. Didn't even know it was called this. But I remember the beautiful and damaged and party girl look of the era. Characters like Effie Stronem and people like Kesha really did have their own style which I look back on as the dirty party girl, the love is my drug, the sad tumblr girl (especially for Effie) kind of thing. I didn't realize it extended so far back to include the bimbo era of Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton. I always thought of it as a more of tumblr thing and more present in the early 2010s than early 2000s. I guess it could have been around in the mid and late 2000s, but I more so associate that time period with Scene and Emo kids for the mid-2000s and Twlightcore for the late 2000s. Then early 2010s was the tumblr era where I recognize the glorification of mental illness and sadness from. I graduated high school in 2012 and for me, 2012 was my gothic lolita and hime gyaru era lol cause I just remember hating the fashions of the late 2000s.

Ahhh my college years 😅 I think the biggest part of this aesthetic was the economic collapse in 2008 and how broke everybody was, how hopeless we were about the future, and somehow "artsy" clothes and intense partying were the hedonistic escape we needed to survive it all.

I kinda hope Twee makes a comeback because i think its really pretty

I remember listening to LDR the first time in 2011 when I was 11 or 12 and I thought that this is the kind of music I always searched for . I didn’t know what she was singing abt , bc English isn’t my first language, but I immediately fell for her aesthetic 🌝 I‘m glad I had no internet acces back then. Otherwise I’d probably posted some kind of weird stuff 😅

Hi, great vid, but I just want to say that pot definitely has it's down sides. I think it should be legal (at least the possession & consumpton of it, like all the drugs should be) but I'm fed up how ppl talk about pot like it doesn't have any harmful impacts on health. It's not true and pretending like pot is just all good and there is no bad side effects doesn't benefit anybody.

I'm a bit confused on this, some people refer to the early 2000s, indie rock bands, the libertines, Kate Moss style during that era, skins, etc as indie sleaze while others are talking about 2010s hipster fashion, American apparel, LDR, Tumblr, ugly moustache everything so which one is it? 🤔

Loved this video... But all I can think about is that if I’d walk around wearing this “aesthetic” in my hometown, everyone would think, I’ve been stuck in time instead of that I’m “trendy” or that I’m looking cool, lol 😆

Im 31 and was in high school from 2006-2010, I'm actually excited for this. I loved Nylon magazine, American Apperal, and I used to hear Alexa Chung, Olsen Twins, and Nicole Richie was into the boho thing. Zoe Kravitz is still very much "indie sleaze" at times. Now I have an excuse to bring out my graphic tees again.

i found your channel and absolutely love it !!!!

Marijuana can trigger schizophrenia and it can cause cognitive problems if smoked everyday for some time.

Im dying I love this so much

Its weird that people see it as an aesthetic. It was but it was very much a lifestyle back then. I wish people didnt glorify that lifestyle too because it was depressing times and partying to numb the pain. The fashion was just a side piece of that culture back then. ❤

There is nothing wrong with indie sleaze. it's alllll gooood. Listening to Interpol walking around the LES on a Sunday afternoons. Fun!

At the time of the indie sleaze era, I was a pop punk kid in middle school and didn't get into electronic music until the spring/summer of 2011. A few years later, i learned what bloghouse was and realized it was some artists i loved a couple years prior + a bunch of DJs and bands i never knew. Now i'm going on 27 and i'm preserving the music as I'm playing out these tracks at my gigs. While i'm a lot more keen on the music aspect of indie sleaze with electro clash & bloghouse, I appreciate learning about the fashion & aesthetic that came full force with it

The 80s are always in style. Have it be punk. Have it be goth. Have it be vampire. Have it be rock n roll. The sleaze of indie sleaze is very 80s repackaged. Will the revival be indie and bedroom pop or even more sleazy and dirty? Maybe both

Am I the only one who associates this era with British fashion/culture influences and a vintage pinup influence? I feel like a lot of the people and media glorified either vintage or European aesthetics, or both

I just saw a banx art exhibit in Amsterdam last month.

The blue rilakkuma phone case is to die for.

I miss nylon magazine soo much!!

Hopefully this brings back the rise of indie and electro bands.

When you said Cory Kennedy and TheCobraSnake specifically I GASPED, this video awakened memories I completely forgot I had 😭

This reminds me of using a proxy site in hs and looking at pictures of the cobrasnake and misshapes parties/events. Agnes Deyn and Cory (I forget her last name) was AMAZING

I'm so early lol, just woke up, saw this and *click* instant

My brother is also 7 yrs older than me but I believe is prolly only a bit older than you and I for sure remember him his friends and his gfs participating in this style a bit

I was born in 2004 so I saw the Tumblr sad girl during 2014-2016 like I wanted to be a hipster, hippie, preppy/nerd, Grunge, swag girl, emo, goth like I would be diving in different subcultures 24/7 as a young child lolol like changing music tates n looks very frequently but I def love this indie sleaze look so much ughhh might gotta go back loved M.I.A.~

I was a young adult during this period, so I'm going to try to spam some videos and tidbits that sum it up for me 😊 and yes, keffiyahs were a whole thing. A Vampire Weekend song even mentioned it. Anyway, this video : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y9mYdKZ-xt65kmQ.html also used for a tech ad. Ipod ads especially were big proponents.

I was there with the twee aesthetic in 2005-2010. You just had to be there🥰I was hoping it would come back because it felt so warm nostalgic and artsy❤The sleaze part was definitely an early 2010 culture shift. I turned 21 around this time & I thank God I came thru w/o f#%ing my life up😅. KE$ha, YOLO, Bacardi, those weird sunglasses that were neon with slits in them? (Anyone remember those things?!) , guys wearing tank tops with cringy sexist sayings on them & yes, SO MUCH DRINKING.

hearing the cobra snake instantly took me back to summer 2012 after graduating lol

As somebody who was younger and in a band who supported one of the main bands of this whole thing (they were from wakefield, work it out) it was horrible, loads of racism/staring/patromising for having a black drummer, underage girls being abused. People walking out when they saw we wore just normal boring clothes without hearing our music, even got sht for playing fender copy brand guitars and playing actual punk music. Its destroyed all of our love for live music and we went into music technology and ended up selling our songs to a company. Getting talked down to by bands who were completely terrible when we played great but were too young to even drink in the bar we were playing. A movement lead by upper middle class tossers who didnt wash and couldnt match their pretentiousness with actual intelligence. Asking them anything about books beyond the hipster heroin glorying 50s beat poet dross and they were clueless. Ended up with an addiction to said substance myself and that sort of glorifying makes me sick. Like you mention yourself, know loads who ended up dead or paying with their mental health.

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As someone who lived through this time as an artist and fashion student and quite literally barely made it out alive… I hated this period back then and I hate it now. There’s very little nostalgia with it… but what I do enjoy about the sleaze is that it’s the complete opposite of the glam/Instagrammer/KZfaqr/filters thing that’s been happening the last several years…

Yo i found my boots 👢 from middleschool. do you guys remember those slouchy boots with the curly toe. They had us looking like Aladin. I wore my "walk the plank" pirate boots on my first❤ date

Ahh yes this takes me back to my cringey art school days haha

I always strongly disliked this culture, but I never really understood why until now. So thanks for putting into words all the weird toxic shit that was pissing me off even back then (I was very, very young)

I seriously couldn’t explain this better myself. So accurate!

Yup yup yup that era effed me up I thought I was having fun for a while I did all those things that you mentioned all those negative things including going to jail because of all those things it took me a long while to crawl out of that deep hole I was in but I’m happy and healthy now thank goodness not everybody made it out alive

I'm mid-video and like, still listening. But good lord, did people forget what everyone looked like 5 or so years ago? Like this JUST happened. And personally, I wore gold lamé stockings, a seafoam green pencil skirt (vintage 1960s), a black and color block turtle neck("vintage" 2000s), gold sunburst earrings, a very wide black velvet belt with gold embroidery and buckle(1980s), red knit knee socks I've had since I was a kid, large silver rings and cowgirl boots (early 2000s?), dark plum-brown lipstick and winged eyeliner to work TODAY. It sounds chaotic but it was all color coordinated and I scooped up those compliments. Yes I needed to hype my outfit (lol), but I'm also making a point. Don't worry so much when things go "out" of fashion. People have continued to call me a fashion icon since middle school. I'm 33 now. Learn about fashion (history, construction, color theory etc), learn what looks good on you, be selective with your purchases (2nd hand first!) and you will look good.

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i need to know your spotify if you have one:))

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This aesthetic is basically my college years in nyc. Even got photographed by Dov Charney once 🫠 You are spot on about the glorification of alcoholism and addiction, I crashed and burned pretty early and started recovery in 2013. Kudos on quitting alcohol, but weed definitely isn't harmless and has its detriments. I had to give that up too.

Ever since I was a little kid I would say that people wouldn’t feel the need to drown out the pain with alcohol if they stopped drugging themselves for a little high they would learn to live with the trauma and overcome it instead Not even taking into account the stupid shit that happens to people while under the influence causing more trauma

I legit was an art school hipster in Portland Oregon from 2005-2009😂😂😂 I studied fashion design and had crap loads of friends in the indies music scene 😂😂😂I even show cased my work as an independent designer in galleries full of avant garde work. the worst part is how much of my partying was spent with other hipsters 😂

You youngenz' move too FAST for an old man to keep up with yinz. To state the obvious, I was oblivious. I had never heard of Indie Sleaze (affirmed: 57% of your viewers hadn't either), couldn't pick the style out of a lineup (couldn't pick it out now), don't understand the lingo--drinking Sparks, Misshapes set. The point here is I learned. That's what your videos do for me. I took a page of notes. A third of the way through I wrote "I can't see the fashion (two underlines) aesthetic in the clothes" (11:46,) (affirmed by a follower (14:43). The one piece of clothing I do remember seeing from this time is the "Arab head scarf." That's a keffiyeh and was worn by those who were turning against Israel and supporting the Palestinians. In that, they were future-seers and they were correct. You say several times and I thought as well, "It's too soon" for this. There really is--really, really--an iron rule of trending, it's 20 years. We're only half-way there. I was not sure how you felt about this whatever-it-is. Early on you say "I love it"; later and repeatedly you basically say it's gross. It is. I noticed no women of color in this thing! Huh! Is that because the exemplars of this thing were all privileged white kids who were tapping into their atavistic alt-right souls? May be! "Recession chic" is unknown to people too poor and marginalized to even now there's a recession. (Me: "Mum, what was it like living through the Depression?" Her: "Oh David, we didn't know there was a Depression, we were too poor.")😂 In all I wish this never was and never comes back. I really, REALLY appreciated this vid, honey. A million likes.

Just irreverent but I consider Portlandia more “Granola” mostly because Carrie brownstien kind of has a different time period reference… but like something of the Gay peak of indie sleaze was probably Rupauls Drag Race Queens in American Apparel Ads or American Apparel selling towels of gay porn stars … idk gay indie sleaze was just also different

This was my late teens / college aesthetic 😂 Just remembering it makes me feel ill with all the alcohol, lack of sleep, trash food, and Tumblr sadness I consumed 😂😂😂 I’m 30, and happy to know I make better lifestyle choices now

Honestly, according to my own perception (was born 1999) 1. Indie Sleaze is different from Hipster. 2. Indie Sleaze could range from 2007-2014. There's a difference between Indie and Indie Sleaze. The Sleaze part is key.

I was a bit to young to participate in this trend (Born 98) but i remember wearing thights with patterns or different colours& i was a big Amy Winehouse Fan in my preteen years xD

Don’t say sleaze, it is a curse.

What you said about alcohol And weed is, as you probably know, false.

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