Love that you’re testing this! Even six cameras (~$21,000) is a lot for indies and vtubers. But the point is that this stuff is POSSIBLE and it’s amazing that you’re covering it!! Also, Vicon rent their equipment and maybe indies could access a rented space? That might be more cost effective than purchasing.

It’s insane how deep you’ve gone with this. I start watching years ago for the cinematography breakdowns but absolutely love this new content. Awesome stuff!

omg finally i'm at peace thank you very much,your vicon videos are exactly what i wanted,looking forward to see what will you do with this system,thank you very much

This is amazing. Thanks Matt for this review. Really nice system and very natural and realistic motion, BUT not for any indie/solo creator. The price is not affordable at all for individuals. In many countries 21.000$/euros is the whole income of 1 year. However it is very interesting to watch the evolution in this exciting virtual world :)

Fantastic video, Matt! Loads of quality information and a really clear demo of how an optical systems works. You’ve got a really solid set up there - and hats off for operating it yourself:) Couple of things you might like to try as you get into the weeds and start trying to get those marginal gains for what is already a really nice setup… - Middle Chest/Sternum Marker - You might want to try moving your front middle chest marker up a little so it’s on the boney part where your ribs join. If you have it on your stomach where you place it in the video, you’ll be capturing the movement of your stomach breathing, which you don’t really want. - Mid spine (t10?) Marker - Placing it a little higher on your back - the spot where you reached for it in the video would be good, and might be where you normally have it based on where you reached, so apologies if this is the case :) Putting it higher might give you better results for the spine solve as most of the bend in your spine happens in the lower part while the upper part tends to be more rigid because of your rib cage. - Attach your bottoms to your top - When you have your suit on, fasten the jacket to the trousers. Not sure what you have in your kit, but there’s usually a couple of “tabs” of Velcro which you can use to do this. You’ll need about 4 to do it. This will stop your jacket sliding up, and more importantly, your trouser falling down :) - Mic placement - Have you tried attaching your mic above your forehead on the top/front of your helmet (this is where they often go)? Might make it easier/tidier to run your cable and stop any snagging or rustling with the mic cable. - HMC Camera Position - Have you tried moving your camera/phone closer? In theory you only need the camera to be able to see your top of your forehead and bottom of your chin with your mouth open as wide as possible. Moving the camera closer will help improve the image and tracking, and reduce any inertia/ torque/wobble and neck strain :) - Mocap Camera alignment - If you put some markers on the floor in the corners of the floor area you want to capture in, you can check the camera alignment gives you the best view of the whole floor. For example, you might find rotating a camera to cover from one side to the centre spot gives you better coverage in the corners, rather than having everything aimed at the centre. - And for extra credit, build a quick model of your room in your 3d app of choice. Create some cameras with the same settings as your Vicon cameras. Put your meta human in a few key places on the floor, and use that to plan the position and angle of the cameras in your space :) Whatever you do, these are minor tweaks that may help an already pretty solid set setup. Once again, amazing work!

Thanks Matt, I’m learning a great deal from your journey,

感谢您做这么详细的视频，我最近在研究UNREAL和运动捕捉，您的视频让我受益良多，谢谢！

Wow, this is...so good. Now I need a business plan, and a loan, and customers, and drive, and focus. Damn, i'm boned.

Awesome review. I'm going with Optitrack system with new Motive 3.0 (improved occlusion fix solver).. so looking forward to testing it live just like you! man you now have the ultimate quality live mocap.

This is insane. Very good. It would be nice to show us the facial capture in another video. The bad news is that for the vast majority of indie or solo filmakers the cost is still huge even with less cameras...

Pure content, thanks!

amazing content, as always. Thanks for all your effort sharing your knowledge.

Thank you for all your insights

This is so flippin cool! I used to use Vicon’s boujou for camera tracking, I had no idea they made these mocap setups.

Wow that was really helpful and the way you explain everything is so efficient despite the quality of vicon I think it's so expensive for an Indie studio to get the equipments for 50k but the is lots of options anyway thanks a lot hoping to see more of these videos from you ❤️❤️❤️

Thanks for sharing this info !

Thank you for your share

Thank you to talk about pricing! And I stil think they should be more open about their pricing. At first, I would have never even ask the price as I was sure it was about 200k or more. But 50K? That's doable.

We're getting there. The bod motion is pretty much spot on, this is cool. Where things still need to improve is on face capture. Your character's face still does not look natural enough, too stiff. Not sure how Unreal Engine did their face animation when they published MetaHumans for the first time, but it looked near perfect. They might have done a lot of manual fine-tuning, or using some other system. Keep up the great work !

Love this.

This is so cool!

can you make a video on how you can make a business out of this tech? for example: -start a web series featuring a metahuman. Create your own IP. (I have seen some already pop up on youtube) -create virtual content for b2b (other youtube channels, tv channels, advertisers, businesses etc.) -rent out your services locally for whoever wants to record a performance (not really scaleable) -etc.

“That does look better than Rokoko I wonder how much it costs.. oh good lord…”

Love this so much, just finished the previous video with your 10 cam set up. Thank you so much for explaining this process so in-depth. Are you looking to get rid of or sell your Rokoko suit?👀😂

This is amazing, can you do a video on the other helmet setup?

Many thanks for this video. It is absolutely one of the best about Vicon. And all your mocap content is amazing. You mentioned the price of the hardware. But what about the software? Is it a lifetime license? Is it a one year or one month subscription? How much does it cost? Thank you in advance.

Is the Shogun software included in the 50,000 price?

More info! we likey!

if the character goes under the table, how does the system capture his movement?

By the way, what is your opinion about realism in all different methods ? I mean, from what you have tried, Rokoko Suite, XSENS suite, Vicon system etc, which one has the most realistic capture ?... this one looks amazing but needs so much money and space.

Great info. What about those of us who are interested almost exclusively in camera tracking for XR purposes? For example, starting with a green screen to unreal system where you have a live actor in a virtual environment and want to capture camera position for parallax and depth of field information? What kind of cost are you looking at with that?

I love Motion Capture! It's so bad! I have the MoCap Solution suit.

What is the difference between this system and the xsense suit that is much cheaper, offers excellent mocap, and can be used in small places or rooms?

Hey Matt. What size of a space do you have for your 10 camera setup?

So great. Couple of Q's for you. Have you tried anything yet with non-humanoid rigs? ex; could you motion capture a t-rex or some other rig well enough with this setup? Noticed a couple of times that the feet clipped through the floor with your MH. Is this something you would have to cleanup in post, or do you think some extra calibration with the setup would solve? Thanks again for sharing this with us!

where can I find the price for the whole setup with cameras in a Persian suit and face capture?

I'm looking into learning about virtual film making in unreal engine. Would you say the Rokoko SMARTSUIT PRO II is a good entry level mocap suit?

In the Weeknd's Echoes of Silence music video behind the scenes, they said they used "high speed motion capture", I can't seem to find what the difference is, what does and doesn't count as high-speed? I know that inertia suits don't count, but does this Vicon setup count?

• can we capture two persons (individually) in a setup like yours (indie)? • and can we capture two persons (interact to each others) in this setup as well? Thank you so much any ways, the best informative channel for the subject/of its kind..

Cool video....but I will go with OptiTrack & Motive...

I'm enjoying your video I'm preparing for V LIVE, and I'm thinking about various options The first of them is to have the same VICON system as you, so could you tell me the size of the office and the number of cameras accordingly, how many computers should be, and what are the computer specifications? Your video is a great inspiration to me.Thank you.

Very informative video. I have three Perception Neuron suits, and I like them, but there is so much cleanup needed. How many people can you track with your setup? What is the size of your space and how much bigger could it go with your current setup? Do you have to pay an annual fee to keep current with software, if so what's that cost?

wait did u say 50k?? thats insane

Hello my friend! Congrats for your work. How is your opinion about OptiTrack Motion Capture System ?

How many cameras would you recommend for tracking cameras? It should be much easier since you hopefully move it slower and more constrained compaired to a body mocap. Did you do any motion cleanup on the metahuman at the start? Or is that straight out?

Man, Would i be super happy if you gave some information out on your shogun live retargeting setup and how you get that into Unreal. 17:55

Hey,What version is your VIcon Vero camera, Vero2.2 or 1.3?

Did you build the studio yourself or did you choose the specifications and a company that built it for you?

Great video, I think you were using XSen. What made you change to Vicon?

Index controllers? Does the Lighthouse tracking system still work in a room flooded with studio-level IR lights?

The future is soo close

What about props? How are they handled in a Mocap space and setup in UE4 / Motionbuilder / MAYA-3DS Max?

Could you share equipment or link to buy on amazon?

What is the use ??? Should we need to create meta human ?

Interesting. :-) Do you know the size of the volume you can capture in with your current setup - is it right up the green-screen?

Hey man! where can I buy this suit?

wouldn't some action camera be a better choice for that helmet, for the face capture? or if you wanna go more pro, the BM micro cinema maybe.

I found someone on Ebay selling 8 Cameras for 1300$ !!!! what is the difference?

How do you make a living? Are people buying mocapped animation assets online?

MOCAP SUIT = Motion Capture suit

Is there any website we can get all this stuff?

Willing to sell my body for this setup

Do you do commission work?

About what size does the talent have to be to fit into this?

Hi Matt how tall is your room?

I need you to help me, too

50 000 $$$$$$$😢

50K a pass man lol

Is it better than OptiTrack?

PUTTING THE PRICE UP IS A SIMPLE THING AND WILL REDUCE NEED FOR CONTACT. SIMPLE. NOW WE KNOW THE PRICE, CHINA WILL MAKE CHEAPER SYSTEMS AND SHUT DOWN THE GREED.

If you have to save you probably shouldn't be getting this.

Super cool,everything you do