I had paid a reservation fee to reserve a Grenadier (as an early bird follower) but have decided to cancel. I'm just disappointed in the poor payload given the hype and INEOS not dissuading all the forums when discussing a possible 1000kg payload throughout the RD phase. If it had come with 1000kg payload or close to it, I would be signing a contract. Let’s take emotion out of it and just do the Math. Grenadier Trailmaster (90% fuel capacity, all liquids, no occupants) 689kg payload as per recent published spec sheet. I want to tow a 3500kg caravan, which is what the Grenadier is rated for. Standard rule for working out tow ball weight is 10% of ATM = 350kg Take 350kg from payload of 689kg leaves me with 339kg payload Be kind and put only two occupants in vehicle (too bad if you have kids) my case, wife and I = 170kg 339kg - 170kg = 169kg payload left Only a 90ltr fuel tank in Grenadier which doesn’t work in Australia overlanding so either jerry cans or long-range fuel tank (another 90ltr to carry plus extra ad blu) let’s say 120kg. 169kg - 120 kg = 49kg Now add on a winch - whoops! I can’t as that will overload me. But a winch is a must have in Australia’s outback. Then, if I want my bulbar (also a must in Australia) roof rack, recovery gear, tools/safety equip, Draw system to hold equip, canopy and any other basic accessories it’s not possible. I would have to go down the path of a costly GVM upgrade (which will require engineering, testing, and certification by some third-party company down the track). My hope is INEOS will make changes in future models, (maybe the dual cab utility) where you can have the Trailmaster features with a 1000kg payload with proper size fuel tank (180ltr) so you can tow a 3500kg caravan, with necessary accessories, across Australia’s unforgiving outback. Wasn’t that what it was supposed to be - A Utilitarian 4 x 4 that you can ‘Load up’ - ‘Tow with’ for go anywhere off roading? I believe if Grenadier were to meet the above payload and fuel capacity, sales would skyrocket as they would become a class leader and not just another option. I’ll wait and hope.

Lovely day out 1-1 scale crawling both look really nice with a vibe of drive anywhere.

The Grenadier looks great on paper but this is very tame off roading. I would like to see it drive bog holes and steep ascents in rough terrain.

Traxxas need to see this and make a TRX4 with this body. Look forward to the test drive video

I can do this with my Rav4 honestly, bring a better challenge for what it’s expected to do

That woud have been more fun with the pinz not ? 😁

Please show some proper off roading. Not this tame easy crap.