$700 Mac Mini M1 vs $9,000 Mac Pro | A Video Editors Reaction
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Күн бұрынToday we compare the base $700 Mac Mini M1 against my $9,000 Mac Pro. The results are pretty crazy and although I understand peoples opinion, Im still very happy with my Pro!
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00:00 - Intro
02:05 - Disk Speed Test
03:30 - FCPX Export Test
04:55 - DaVinci Resolve 17 Export Test
06:18 - Multitasking Stress Test
09:25 - RED 8K Helium Footage Test
11:11 - I/O & Customizability
11:45 - Final Thoughts
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@liquidmark5081 3 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% with this video. I think the mini is freaking incredible performance wise for what it is. It’s like releasing a compact economy car that can keep up with an entry level lambo but that doesn’t mean that it therefore is a good replacement for a true supercar. It works as a proof of concept for the future. The actual pro silicon machines are going to be bonkers!
@initialfocus 3 жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic metaphor and makes me so happy the message of the video was clear 🙌🏼
@ab185 3 жыл бұрын
M1 Mac Mini = Tesla Model 3?
@CWGriswald1492 3 жыл бұрын
@@initialfocus Its like a Tesla Model 3 compared to a Lambo..yeah it may have a similar (maybe a little worse) 0-60 but its not the same. When the pro level Apple Silicon comes out, it'll be like comparing a Tesla Roadster to a Lambo.
@princejasi1681 3 жыл бұрын
@@CWGriswald1492 I agree with yall! Picture the 16" MACBOOK PRO's with M1 or maybe M2/M1X 😍😩 (I'm buying the MacBook Air 16gb first tho) ...wrote this on my MacBook Air (intel... just saying)
@rtsstream 3 жыл бұрын
@@CWGriswald1492 id go further with this analogy and say that both the lambo and the 9k mac pro arent very practical. practicality and speed are a nice combo, I got a model 3 performance..and a m1 macbook pro :)
@davidwiles6042 3 жыл бұрын
The fact you’re even making this video at all speaks volumes.
@initialfocus 3 жыл бұрын
100% this!! I wasn’t going to make the video but after picking it up to see what the hype was about and then after 5-6 hours of running tests I was blown away at how hard it is to bog down from a content creators perspective! From a true true pro work perspective it’s easy for the Mac Pro to outpace the mini but 95% don’t need what the pro can do and that’s the message I was trying to convey. Thanks for watching! 🙌🏼
@w0by 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool, The only thing that sucks is I would be worried in a few years the Intel Mac’s won’t be supported as much by Apple OR maybe software companies will be making only software that ail work with the Apple processors.
@kushagranagar2463 3 жыл бұрын
@@initialfocus Clear as Diamond bro!!
@Miguel_Molina 3 жыл бұрын
Why is that? People need to understand the limitations of the M1 machine. Right now there are narrow minded people running around thinking its the end all machine, and it comes with its limitations. Especially if you want to edit anything besides HVEC/265, or WITH effects, it chokes up as expected given its specs. I think that is HUGE to show in a comparison
@kushagranagar2463 3 жыл бұрын
@@Miguel_Molina Yes, but the fact that it being an Entry level machine, can do such stuffs is Bonkers!!
@navid8276 3 жыл бұрын
You could get the M1 mac mini, OR some wheels for that mac pro.. unbelievable
@MrTarmonbarry 3 жыл бұрын
Yes $700 for a set of wheels , bargain NOT
@williamroark 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrTarmonbarry ”wheels”... that in no way belong on a computer 🙄
@eivis13 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamroark unless it's a server rack in a room that's being refurbished.
@magnuszakrisson 3 жыл бұрын
How much for the wheels to the Mac mini? ;)
@EthiopianjewOG 3 жыл бұрын
Dude you 100000% earned my sub. You’ve been real with all of your tests you’ve done, cut the bs nobody really cares about or understands and laid it all out truthfully and in a real world perspective. Thanks for the content and I look forward to more videos!
@TheStringBreaker 3 жыл бұрын
2:42 I LOVE that you mentioned the “single clip fallacy”. Exactly what I was thinking watching the other reviews! Great content. Subbed!
@carlyleyt 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad I’ve found this channel. A new-level of video quality this is.
@ronmason1710 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not a computer expert, but from the reviews I have seen, we are witnessing a Disruption Event. Remember when Apple introduced the iPhone. It put a lot of flip phone companies out of business. Intel has been caught flat footed and anyone wanting to purchase a new computer are going to be seeing the M line of Apple chips as setting the benchmarks.
@luxembourger 3 жыл бұрын
It is an interesting development. Still, from the US CPU companies AMD is ahead with CPU performance and certainly way ahead with GPU performance, but the performance per watt of the M1 is amazing. It will be interesting how easy it will be for Apple to upscale the TDP of their M1 and if the performance stays in line with the raise of that TDP. Well, I look in my crystal ball and see Nvidia coming out with an amazing CPU with integrated GPU early 2022, which will be released with a brand new Windows and a Linux boot loader.
@siddhesh6530 3 жыл бұрын
Or like when they switched to intel from powerpc
@StefanUrkel 3 жыл бұрын
it will be the nvidia shieldX
@xoxo-pp7ru 3 жыл бұрын
@@luxembourger apple should make CPUs for pcs cause I want that performance
@luxembourger 3 жыл бұрын
@@xoxo-pp7ru PC is still faster. AMD builds the fastest CPUs. For multitasking even considerably faster. We'll see what happens next year when Apple will introduce the more Pro models.
@eliangonzales 3 жыл бұрын
FINALLY! A very good review of the new M1 Macs and how they stack up to a MacPro by someone who is an actual video editor. This is precisely the kind of info one really wants to hear about because the guy works on serious projects, not unboxing videos. Those have their place, I suppose, but he hits on something very key that all the others do not: it's not just the total time to output a file, but all the other things that add up when working on a project. When time is money, that is what matters. Very good video!
@hurricanehair37 3 жыл бұрын
Totally AGREED!!!!!!!!!!
@paxwebb 3 жыл бұрын
The real comparison will be next year when pro machines come out. No matter how good the mini or air was gonna be it obviously wasn't ever gonna beat a 9K Pro
@brucestarr4438 3 жыл бұрын
He could have the Mini running one project and bought a M1 MB Air for others.
@onocoffee 3 жыл бұрын
This is really the data I've been looking for - 39 minutes to export that 4K video in Resolve? My work is 1080p and without all the extras so the MacMini should be killer for my needs. Thanks for the video!!
@initialfocus 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! So happy I could provide good info. I love my pro but damn the mini is seriously impressive! You’ll love it!
@RelicusRoad 3 жыл бұрын
Also it was running on Rosseta. It should be able to beat it once optimized for Apple Silicon.
@craighudson4382 3 жыл бұрын
@@RelicusRoad Pretty sure Resolve is native to M1 now. Problem with Resolve as it pertains to the mini ,is that it seems to be coded to favour GPU power , which is scalable on the Mac Pro. Final Cut seems to be more CPU centric so it would be more to the M1's advantage in a comparison. Its the old adage of not putting the horse before the cart. If you use Resolve, stick with the best GPU. If you use FC, either option will allow you get work done.
@ash-ym3zo 3 жыл бұрын
@@initialfocus Were you running Davinci Resolve 17.2 during the timed render export? Wondering how well an M1 machine performs in DIT transcoding workflows. Thanks in advance.
@MarcosElMalo2 3 жыл бұрын
@@craighudson4382 There’s speculation that it’s some kind of “secret sauce” included on the M1 SOC or possibly built into the CPU itself. What secret sauce? I think the M1 has a lite version of the Pro’s optional Afterburner module. It’s possible that some version of these components have been on the iPad Pro SOCs. Not GPUs, but Metal accelerators, dig?
@ItsTomRich 3 жыл бұрын
You’re absolutely killing it lately my dude. So good to see you’ve found a fit of content that works for you and is helping your channel explode.
@katource1 3 жыл бұрын
You’re the only KZfaqr so far that comes out with a video that makes perfect sense why someone would buy and not sell their Mac Pro, over the M1 mini, good job.
@initialfocus 3 жыл бұрын
Glad someone gets the point of the video 😂🙌🏼
@stanbrooks7923 3 жыл бұрын
The new Mac Mini is the Mac Pro for the "rest of us."
@simianinc 3 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity which version of Resolve were you using on the Mac mini - the Intel or the m1 optimized beta?
@foodlover2892 3 жыл бұрын
This video convinced me to buy the mac mini instead of the $9K mac pro .. I almost did .
@luxembourger 3 жыл бұрын
Almost, but you kept to the Mac Pro on your Christmas shopping list. ;)
@MarcosElMalo2 3 жыл бұрын
Then you didn’t really need the Mac Pro in the first place.
@thabomboneni2994 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarcosElMalo2 no one should buy an intel Mac Pro at this point, rather wait for Apple to update it
@junzhang2087 3 жыл бұрын
Not expendable.
@HansKeesom 3 жыл бұрын
@@thabomboneni2994 When forced to buy because of a huge production coming up.. what would you do. Buy two mac mini's?
@99cya 3 жыл бұрын
So the mini did incredibly well. Imagine what apple does with this tech in the future. Insane potential!!
@js0988 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, maybe in 50 years they can compete with 20 year old PC's.
@js0988 3 жыл бұрын
@ Well if you pay $6000+ for a "PC" and spend 8 hours starring at a spinning beach ball then no they really haven't. For 5 years I had to take my work home and do it on my PC because the pieces of shit Mac "PRO's" melted from even the lightest workload.
@sentfromheaven00 3 жыл бұрын
@ I think your argument is bogged
@JohnDeLeon28 3 жыл бұрын
Prepare for bitter PC users Edit: Too late lol 😂
@JohnDeLeon28 3 жыл бұрын
@ Nah. Mostly PC bitter butter jelly are here. Why? 🤔
@soamjena 3 жыл бұрын
Multi cam 4K was smooth or dropping frames ?
@IainAnderson 3 жыл бұрын
Here's a bunch of FCP tests I did, including 4K multicam. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qsyfdsqkkrjej58.html
@sumitpatil4948 3 жыл бұрын
Hindi Vlog Jaldi Dala karo Bhai.
@toothzombie 3 жыл бұрын
“Struggle and die” had me rolling. I can feel your pain.
@GianniVaccafilmmaker 3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing performance dude! Amazing content 😎🎥
@anonymous4201 3 жыл бұрын
Recently discovered this channel and although not into videography / photography, really appreciate the quality and content of videos. Good work. Subscribed.
@moomamedia5414 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I love that you stick to real world application rather than numbers. Genuinely amazed at what I’m hearing about M1 machines and very much looking forward to what they yield over the next year or so. My MBP is about 4 years into the 6 year life cycle I like to get from my machines, so I’m looking on with considerable interest at the moment. Cheers!
@icebox344 3 жыл бұрын
I like the fact the 8gb Mac Mini was used, it shows how amazing these ‘entry’ level machines are... I can’t wait for the next level Macs; and I bet you would still save thousands.
@redboycaptures 3 жыл бұрын
"You computer scores a million points who cares". I like you, as a bro. Here have a subscribe and an upvote
@gpittel 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. This is just the beginning. The M1 is an absolute game changer. Who would have ever thought there would be a Mac mini vs Mac Pro video ever created. Unreal!!
@treffle17 3 жыл бұрын
4:46 "I have an extrem bias in that video , I just spent like $9k on this computer (👉mac pro) a few months ago, I want to see this thing (👉mac mini) struggle and die." 😳🤣
@demasistudios 3 жыл бұрын
Can I just leave this here ... This is the base model of the base model running non optimized software a week after release... pretty darn good
@trevorpinnocky 3 жыл бұрын
If you're struggling for ways to make a machine that costs 10x more 'look' like it costs 10x, the cheap machine wins. People should also realize the Mini is doing all of this with almost no fan noise at all most of the time. Insane.
@initialfocus 3 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree with that statement! Hopefully my point came across that the Mac Pros purpose is for projects that are much more complex with many layers in a timeline, music, sound etc. it’s why for 95% of people the pro is overkill. The Mac mini is incredibly impressive and most of the tests I did from the perspective of a content creator I agree with you the mini wins but once you go into high end commercial, films etc you need something like the pro in my opinion. Thanks for watching 🙌🏼
@matthewtrow5698 3 жыл бұрын
@@initialfocus I may be wrong here, but is it that in order to see what the high end video would actually turn out like, when using the mini, would require multiple renders, rather than having a very good idea of the end result in near real time? If that is so, editing a video like this on the mini could take a ridiculous amount of time by comparison? Just one minor filter tweak or change... you have to wait and wait and wait for a render. Where with the pro, you can get a good idea right off the bat? And it's not like every scene is going to have the same filters or same editing applied - it's a creative exercise, you are manipulating at a granular level, treating almost every few frames with attention to detail?
@alanmay7929 3 жыл бұрын
The macpro is a beast on another level the mac mini m1 does not 3ven compare, there are tons of upgrades possible from Tb of storage to custom cards/video cards......
@marchofthelorex238 3 жыл бұрын
The mac pro has its purlose and the mac mini m1 has its purpose , it is up to the buyer to decide which is best for them. If you do not create anything then all that matters is do you want the new thing.
@Miguel_Molina 3 жыл бұрын
i dont think he was struggling to make the cheap machine look cheap. It is pretty obvious the M1 mac mini can chew through HVEC/265 footage pretty easily as most reviewers show,, but when you start throwing effects and get in depth with your edit (as most editors do), thats when you start seeing the limitations of the machine. I think you just want to believe its magical, and thats ok, but you will have to wait a little more for a machine like that.
@matthewTobrien 3 жыл бұрын
Nice breakdown, Michael! Love that you threw some real world edits at both machines and gave more of an overview than an in-depth scientific analysis. Excited to look at updating my 2013 Mac Pro and 2013 rMBPro with new Apple silicon versions in 2021!
@crazycoolclips 3 жыл бұрын
Great review, appreciate the depth of your tests and explanations.
@MMAOnPoint 3 жыл бұрын
Dude. Your audio sounds incredible. Teach me your ways. Using Logic?
@samuelmatheson9655 3 жыл бұрын
hes a professional afterall
@IanHobday 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of it comes down to two things: 1) His Rode NTG4+ mic, perhaps combined with an external audio recorder. 2) Good acoustics in the room he is in. He lists all his gear in the video description but a good mic is really the key. You'll never end up with good audio if you don't have a good mic. If you want to comparison shop then the Sennheiser MKE 600 is another great mic for a little less money. Check KZfaq comparisons to see which you prefer.
@GeekTherapyRadio 3 жыл бұрын
90% mic placement in mostly "dead" room 10% technique, mixing, mastering, etc Quick dirty plugin settings: Literally most EQ's - roll off everything below 75hz Literally most compressors - Ratio 4:1, attack 0 to 1ms, release 120ms, knee 2db, threshold set so quietest speech barely triggers gain reduction. Literally most limiters - put on master fader/track, set threshold to -1db, bring up VO track to BARELY kiss the limiter threshold. Again, these are extremely quick and dirty settings. You can't boil down over a hundred years or audio theory into one comment, but this will bring most KZfaqrs 90% there or at least vastly improve their currently terrible audio. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bZyTa9N5l77Xno0.html
@relaxingnaturevideos1203 3 жыл бұрын
Good comment thanks for sharing
@BlackOpsTeaR 3 жыл бұрын
too sibilant IMO
@UthacalthingTymbrimi 3 жыл бұрын
This was a good, unbiased review. I have an important question though: did you use DaVinci Resolve 17.1 Beta 1, which is a universal binary with direct M1 support, or the normal Intel-only version which would have been running under Rosetta? If these results were under Rosetta emulation, that just makes the Mini's performance under high load even more impressive.
@ApicalTrades 3 жыл бұрын
amazing video as usual. Thank you very much. I have a Mac Pro 2018 and I just love it.As you said it it is a beast to stay with me for a decade.
@cmykimberly 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video michael, yt recommended this to me and its the first video of yours I've seen. I'm sure this took a lot of effort to make but i appreciate it. I always thought the mac mini never got the attention it should have had, no it has the guts to back it up. Defo got my eye on it for the future.
@hansc8433 3 жыл бұрын
So basically you’re trying to reduce your buyer’s remorse?
@narutobroken 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he’s grasping here. Everyone will have buyers remorse when the M1X comes out in the iMac and 16” MBP
@AntonioDal. 3 жыл бұрын
@@narutobroken indeed and with such efficiency Apple has a lot of room to increase cores and/or higher clockspeed for the M1X. The M1 will be like an iPhone chip compared to the M1X.
@Teluric2 3 жыл бұрын
@@AntonioDal. You cant add cores and think power will scale that ,easy maybe it wont get hotter but apple will have to cramm a beefier neural engine (32 core)because M1 is faster because the NPU .its not a faster CPU like A64FX that doesnt have any coprocesor or accelerator on die.
@mendodave 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if Apple makes a M2X or something for the Mac Pro or some kind of Apple SOC hardware acceleration module that plugs in.
@Teluric2 3 жыл бұрын
@@mendodave remember intel is good on fgpa and accelerator boards. I think Apple wont allow other companies to get money on apple. I said I think because there are a lot of fanboys speaking like they know what apple executive board / engineering team decide.
@jankompan 3 жыл бұрын
I bought 16" Pro - love it every single minute. I also bought M1 pro 13 for my wife. Guess what ? Both are great machines, still prefer mine. (Davinci/lightroom). Maybe it is only me, but 13 pro is kind of tiny for me (even compared to older 13 air). Battery rocks on M1 macbook, if there is one thing missing on my 16 pro.
@initialfocus 3 жыл бұрын
These are the comments I love reading! It’s exactly my mindset as well. I’m so happy to see this new Apple tech and everyone who gets the new machines loving them and doing amazing things. But also being confident in your own purchase and knowing your machine also kicks ass and helps you create amazing things. That’s a winning mindset my friend. Thanks for watching, means a ton! 🙌🏼
@adnanburek4548 3 жыл бұрын
After all those reviews, this one feels right. Well done. Subscribed
@bryankia 3 жыл бұрын
This is the first video of yours I have watched. I genuinely appreciate you honesty and the complete lack of hyperbolic language. Have the best day.
@calebnichols5207 3 жыл бұрын
When you started speaking right at the begining I was pretty certain you were about to start a dope rap...
@Dutchsteammachine 3 жыл бұрын
Omg same!
@lizimo 3 жыл бұрын
same here!
@KentoCommenT 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@NoahHerman 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Michael :)
@initialfocus 3 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks! 🙌🏼
@drudigger 3 жыл бұрын
Damn right at the start with the beat and your word flow i thought you were about to start spitting fire.
@eafortson 3 жыл бұрын
Super fair review. Honest to god real world comparison, and no cap anywhere to be found. Thanks bruh. Subbed.
@Streamlined955 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously, in all fairness you should have at least grabbed the 16gb of RAM Mac Mini.
@daniel_960_ 3 жыл бұрын
For real
@brianwyland2684 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. Should have gotten the 16gb M1 Mac mini
@stevefan915 3 жыл бұрын
16GB version costs more than $700.
@bgimusic 3 жыл бұрын
but that's not what this test is about. It's about the potential of the entry level vs a really expensive computer.
@brucestarr4438 3 жыл бұрын
@@bgimusic why is anyone running less than 16GB RAM on a Mac? My late 2009 Mini has 8GB, because that is the max it can run. My 2012 i7 Mini and MBP both have 16GB.They are stuck at 16GB, because that is the max for those ones. All of them have SSDs instead of HDs. If I buy a current M1 box, it will be 16GB and at least a 512GB SSD.
@RodHerzstrom 3 жыл бұрын
I was making videos testing and on the last one I opened 100 Chromes widows and set a youtube video to play. Couldn't crash the M1 macbook😂
@gregoriorosa 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos I’ve watched so far about Mac comparisons. Good job!!
@initialfocus 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙌🏼
@ottoramos3995 3 жыл бұрын
This is the most fair review I have seen in youtube, thank you!
3 жыл бұрын
Question: was your Resolve the optimized 17 beta version? Because there's an Apple Silicone Resolve already
@alvallac2171 3 жыл бұрын
*Silicon (different meaning and pronunciation)
3 жыл бұрын
@@alvallac2171 auto correct. Thanks
@EbenPajanconi 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that you're left handed and using a trackpad instead of a mouse is throwing me off lol.
@guiximenes 3 жыл бұрын
Honest and comprehensive review for video editors. Thanks for such a great video!
@JHawk 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea for a video man. This is crazy lol I might be picking up the 13” MBP 👀
@zebratroopfan6695 3 жыл бұрын
Pulled trigger and purchased my wife an Air for Christmas. I’m still actively devouring every video on the new macs I can find. I’m more concerned about Big Sur compatibility than I am the silicon.
@markomclane475 3 жыл бұрын
Did you buy from the apple website?
@zebratroopfan6695 3 жыл бұрын
@@markomclane475 yes.
@zebratroopfan6695 3 жыл бұрын
@@markomclane475 although my local Best Buy has some in stock.
@markomclane475 3 жыл бұрын
@@zebratroopfan6695 is your order still processing, I ordered from the apple store like a week ago and my order is still processing.
@GameWorks12 3 жыл бұрын
@@markomclane475 ordered mine the day it came out and it only finished processing Friday.
@wholeness 3 жыл бұрын
Sad face mac for those that paid $9,000+
@anemoneyas 3 жыл бұрын
@cyberpunk jutsu unless you're a gamer there's no reason to get a pc
@zezba9000 3 жыл бұрын
@@anemoneyas Unless you're a video editor, there is no reason for a mac.
@BamBANG-lf9wt 3 жыл бұрын
@@zezba9000 lmao both of u
@kalijasin 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@kalijasin 3 жыл бұрын
@@zezba9000 Logic Pro is extremely popular among audio producers/studios.
@MTobin1000 3 жыл бұрын
Absolute killer Mac Mini....that machine SCREEEAMMSS !!!! It's nice to see the Mac Mini finally get a seat at the table with his big brother Mac Pro. What an amazing video and comparison you put together. Well done !
@unifynormal9949 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for making this video, it's exactly what I was looking for in terms of a real world comparison. I finally have to retire my early 2008 Mac Pro, which has been my every day work computer since I got it, and now I'm convinced that the M1 options will be more than capable. I don't do high end video work, but the typical design studio mix pf Photoshop, Illustrator, Indesign (typically all open at the same time) with some 3D modelling/rendering and video thrown in. I currently have an animation project that has over 1,500 layers in Illustrator and Animate, and that just chokes the old workhorse to a standstill, so here's to actually wrapping that project up!
@sfinnera1 3 жыл бұрын
“I want to see this struggle and die” 😅
@Musicsson 3 жыл бұрын
Then give it a 50-60 hours non stop render job at 100% load. :)
@mozophoto 3 жыл бұрын
Finally. Not jus one "handle" file..
@Arcvde 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the video. Your audio is insane. So crispy. New sub 👋🏼
@ZanderOdom 3 жыл бұрын
Love your vids man keep it up!! You should make a video about your career, i'd love to hear about it!
@dsphotos 3 жыл бұрын
You can buy 2 m1 mac minis or or even mac book pros, use one for video the other for photoshop and youtube and you still have spent less money ;-)
@justinp1278 3 жыл бұрын
You could by 5 to 6 of them depending on the configurations....
@hungryalien 3 жыл бұрын
wonder if they can do a farm using the new m1 mac minis..
@Miguel_Molina 3 жыл бұрын
lol thats....not how any of this works
@funnyberries4017 3 жыл бұрын
@@hungryalien Apple advertised the Mac mini as being a farm node! If you check the official web page it talks about how easy it is to wire a bunch up.
@jhalscott 3 жыл бұрын
Afterburner only accelerates playback. It does nothing to help render performance.
@iraamerson623 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent usable information in this video! Thanks for making a video that made sense to someone who is just starting to think about getting into video creation! Subscribed!🤙🏼
@stevenrobinson2012 3 жыл бұрын
Quality video. That was a much more interesting comparison than I expected
@OT4Tech 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video dude!
@snazzydoggo 3 жыл бұрын
@Shuban Devarakonda time to like it >:D
@waggleivah2862 3 жыл бұрын
Multi cam 4K was smooth or dropping frames ?
@ellarpc 3 жыл бұрын
Is this with the M1 optimized DaVinci?
@arranpbrown 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, Michael! I’ve ordered a 16Gb M1 Mac Mini and I’m super hyped to get it. Been editing on a dual core i5 base model 13 inch MacBook Pro for the last couple of years and it has been a struggle. I think for me this is going to be the perfect upgrade! 🔥
@generationliry8495 3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who does the comparison the right way, thank you!
@rogeh5687 3 жыл бұрын
Erm... $699 vs $9000 - It’s awesome that you love the Mac Pro and it is powerful but if anything, this just further makes the case against buying a Mac Pro now.
@alanmay7929 3 жыл бұрын
The mqcpro is still way better with all the options and upgrades possible
@AmauryJacquot 3 жыл бұрын
again, depends on your usage, if you mostly do 1080p work as I do, this machine should be plenty good
@cb2000a 3 жыл бұрын
A decade in computer terms is a long, long time. I upgrade every 4 to 5 years.
@jonathansweeney2167 3 жыл бұрын
still using a 2008 mac pro rn lol. That is one thing when you buy apple they support everything for 7 years at least and after that all the third parties will support that last installable os for at least a few years.... they are all decade machines. I'm probably goign to get a mac mini in a year or so to replace this mac pro and plan to have it probably into 2030, I just need it for school work and to run pro tools
@alaindion2326 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathansweeney2167 Running the same mac pro! :-)
@jonathansweeney2167 3 жыл бұрын
Alain Dion nice man! No probs with mine. Only thing I did was just buy new ram a year ago, the cards went bad. Was $50 off eBay for 32 gb set. I use it for med school mostly now, still snappy and quick. Only thing that has been annoying for me is apps and certain programs not supporting the OS anymore, but old versions still work fine. When I graduate plan to get a real nice mini prob used, the pro is overkill.
@deltagbeta 3 жыл бұрын
that is the best and honest review Kudos !!
@bd7190 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant review, well done. That's the right way to test a product. You deserve every credit.
@exploringrvdude7817 3 жыл бұрын
Would have been a more fair test to use the 16gb Mini. I know the 8gb model showcases the strength of the unified memory architecture, but comparing an 8gig machine to the MacPro is just slightly biased, even if the Mini did perform well.
@justinp1278 3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@bgimusic 3 жыл бұрын
entry level vs high end is the point of the review
@headbangax 3 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Safari doesn't support 8k resolution on YT. Only 4k is supported in Big Sur.
@07087joenj 3 жыл бұрын
wrong I just tested it out I have an You Tube 8K video playing in Safari >>> kzfaq.info/get/bejne/npmWiMqAsKyxfok.html
@JeffDaytonMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Great pace, really useful info. Thanks! New sub.
@jonathanpannell2019 3 жыл бұрын
great video :) really like your style and focus points
@ZephyrBassPiano 3 жыл бұрын
Apple next year: The new Mac Pro is double as fast as the Intel Xeon with 28 Cores Michael: Damn, this is tempting
@JamarConley 2 жыл бұрын
Xeon processors are meant for servers. They have very low clock speeds and I don't think they have hyperthreading or Hz boost. Huge core counts don't always mean it's a monster CPU. Mac's chips don't have any boost either. The M1 specs aren't special at all besides the 1700+ single-core score that is only relevant when running fully native. Running Rosetta it's like 1250ish. I like Apple, but I have never been a fan of them overpricing and limiting upgradability.
@ZephyrBassPiano 2 жыл бұрын
@@JamarConley Apple will most definitely make a Mac Pro with apple silicon. That will be for servers. And adding basically 2 more cores from an iPhone chip and making it the most powerful MacBook in its weight class is pretty impressive. And with only 4 high performance cores is the multi-core score really impressive. Is there a 4 core CPU that is as powerful as the M1? And Rosetta 2 is the best emulation ever, running the older parallels for windows is like 1250ish. Did you like apple at the time when they sold an intel MacBook Air for the same price a year ago?
@vangopilgrim2145 3 жыл бұрын
The “Mac Pro” just became a doorstop.
@VincentCorver 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Michael. Awesome stuff. Thank you. I really still would like to see how well the Mac mini M1 does with LogicX Pro and lots of VSTs.
@ConnorCrosby 3 жыл бұрын
It was great seeing real world tests and thoughts from a video editor. Plus it was great seeing all this from a fellow former Apple employee!
@afokproduction 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the chip Apple is are going to put in the new Mac Pro in 2021-2022. It's crazy to see what Apple silicon can do in a mac mini already!
@rotojo2 3 жыл бұрын
Windows and PC hardware guys are going to cry even more about Apple and the machines 😂 Intel dead with AMD and now Silicon is going to kill them both further, one day, in the future. Maybe :p We will see! :)
@saauuzza 3 жыл бұрын
@@rotojo2 dun be a fanboi u been smoking too much weed. Mac pro is using old hardware like all in their line up. You can pick your own cpu on a gaming pc and if you think you can game on that m1 chip think again.
@lawrencejob 3 жыл бұрын
I like how the Mac mini only falls down multitasking here because you could literally just buy two (or eight) when you want to do more at once, which is funny to think
@brucestarr4438 3 жыл бұрын
He didn't even get a 16GB version of the Mini.
@KokkiePiet 3 жыл бұрын
Buy 8 Mac mini and use them as a render farm. Shame apple doesn’t sell it with the fast Ethernet like the previous Mac mini.
@POTBFitnessandLife 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. Thank you for this video. Btw was the opening Broll handheld?
@rockyramniceanu1187 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Michael, one of the most honest, objective reviews on this subject I've seen. Reminds me of the question "Is the juice worth the squeeze.?"
@melomaniakjm 3 жыл бұрын
Hence the different between "fellow content creators on YT" and real editing work. Editing your YT videos even in 4K does not equate "pro" work and i'm not even talking After Effects, 3D rendering, etc.
@melomaniakjm 3 жыл бұрын
But of course it's "unfair" to pair the mac mini against the Mac Pro but that's all we have to benchmark with right now :) next year with the M1X chip or whatever...and it's not even a fight because they are on the same team and the Mac Pro will also end up having a Mx version of this M1 and things are going to get mental.
@initialfocus 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more with every statement you made! Thanks for watching and commenting! 😬
@alpacino9226 3 жыл бұрын
"pro work" that you are referring cannot be done by a macpro either. Studios like Disney or universal use their own custom made mini supercomputers.
@AmauryJacquot 3 жыл бұрын
@@melomaniakjm now imagine what $9000 of apple M* silicon could do...
@saiashwin26 3 жыл бұрын
Most pros work with proxies.
@vlcthefish 3 жыл бұрын
To me the litmus test is this time next year when Apple is rolling out actually powerful versions of ARM in something like an iMac. Right now these are just the bare entry computers. What happens when Apple has mid level versions out? I think ultimately the issue is that the Mac Pro isn't even a year old and we are seeing such a massive change. The Mac Pro is going to show it's age very fast....give it a year or two. With that if you are recouping the money multiple times over it's not that big of a deal but I am sure given the current economic situation of the world that not everyone is hand over fist in work.
@zmperry1 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the real world tests. I’m a 2D animator. Usually frame by frame in photoshop. It’s nice to see the Mac mini handle quite a bit. My goal is to get a Mac mini to use with my iPad for animating. This video gives me hope! Thanks!
@LukePollack 3 жыл бұрын
Dude your intro sounded like you were about to start rapping lol, great video btw!
@impatrickt 3 жыл бұрын
"the single clip fallacy" exists because it's $700 and computers 3x the price fail that basic test.
@mmlewis1030 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, found someone to summarize my caution and issues. The classic "single clip fallacy" was driving me nuts. I make feature films and do a ton of post production. There is a reason why we look at the amount of vram graphic cards have and the amount of memory needed for RAM intensive programs. I agree with the sentiments that the Mac Mini is amazing for what it is and the price but there is still an obvious usage case it is not well suited for.
@dereklondon9404 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! Great review. Thx.
@laurabocquet6376 3 жыл бұрын
Really good work on your channel. You deserve more views Hope it will come soon
@-maxx- 3 жыл бұрын
"I'm very confident I'll have this thing for the next decade" ... Imma check back with you in like 3 years ;)
@johto 3 жыл бұрын
This. Haha
@1697djh 3 жыл бұрын
Try adding anything to a MAC M1 silicon device, try servicing it? Try upgrading it? No doubt when it goes wrong you'll have to replace "the motherboard" for a suitably high price
@ThisDugan 3 жыл бұрын
you could buy a new one for the cost of one component on the pro
@jdlitson 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I appreciate the great audio.
@initialfocus 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@sunilsdesigns1232 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making and sharing! I was looking to see if the new m1 mac mini was suitable for using photoshop, so this helped give me more information to process. (I was worried the graphics card wouldn't handle it, was always told that integrated graphics card didn't work well with photoshop). But your video really helped clarify and give me more info.
@Cryo837 3 жыл бұрын
Last year's "Prom Queen" always hates the new one. Especially when she is more petite and prettier. Mac Pro has INTEL = hot, slow, and expensive. But it's ok, we'll still clap when you find the corner conditions where the grandma machine still wins. Mac Mini 16/512 INCOMING!!!
@initialfocus 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂 idc of this is a “hater” comment. This is my favorite comment of all time. I legit spat out my drink when I read the first line. Thank you for that and I completely understand your perspective 🙌🏼👍🏼
@Cryo837 3 жыл бұрын
@@initialfocus Not a hater. You made your bias perfectly clear. You WANTED to see the Mini choke, crash, and burn. Just a comment on all the INTEL apologists still trying to justify their hot, relatively slow, and EXPENSIVE systems. M1 is revolutionary. Consider me...Paul Revere.
@zt9233 3 жыл бұрын
Bahahahhahaha! Yea let’s be clear each individual task is actually likely faster on the Mac mini. It’s the multitasking where it falls. Frankly two mac minis and monitors would be cheaper then the Mac Pro for multitasking or you know 200$ more for a 16gb Mac mini. The lack of gpu power is a problem. Apple is going to have to pull it off. They have thermal and power headroom just need to see if their gpu will scale up. They need to double or triple their gpu power in 1-1.5 years. Ram shouldn’t be a problem frankly. I expect 32-64gb of ram systems in a year.
@MrGames4Arab 3 жыл бұрын
Finally an honest review
@shwartz166 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video Thank you!!
@photojoseph 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. Makes me feel better about my Mac Pro purchase!!
@the_kingdom 3 жыл бұрын
"I want to see this thing struggle and die!". I would feel the same if I just spent 9K on a computer and something new just came out for over 9 times less.
@sachinprabhu1571 3 жыл бұрын
And beat the crap out of the 9k systems
@the_kingdom 3 жыл бұрын
@@sachinprabhu1571 I would laugh, but I don't want to hurt the poor guy's feelings : )
@rkstr9965 3 жыл бұрын
Why not consider getting 2 Mac Mini M1's for expanded needs?
@TaiwanBrown 3 жыл бұрын
This is what I got out of this video... Get two minis! Switch over to the other mac mini when you are rendering. Only if you truly need them now. Or wait for the more pro computers coming soon. He does make a good point about the Mac Pro being swappable, might see a quad-core m1 card to add! (Just dreaming out loud)
@wvilela 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a really good review from a video editor perspective. tks
@vachivanya769 3 жыл бұрын
Very thorough review. Thanks
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