Installing and Testing the TORQ Locker for Jeep 8.25 XJ Axle
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3 жыл бұрынStrong, easy, AND cheap? Surely that's a typo! As it turns out, lunchbox lockers don't have to be a compromise on strength, and they can actually get even easier to install! TORQ Masters Industries has been developing their TORQ Locker design for use in more and more axle applications, and we had a chance to test out their newest addition, the TORQ Locker for the Chrysler/Jeep 29 spline 8.25 rear axle. Being a C-Clip axle this is a bit of a variation on the installation found in say a Dana 30 or Dana 44 application. We've been super impressed with the functionality of the locker, stick around to the end for a review on wet and dry on-road handling, and some serious off road testing.
To recap: It's the strongest lunchbox style locker design out there, it's super easy to install, it costs less than $400--AND my favorite part: it's MADE IN THE USA by people who stand behind their product.
To get more specs and order a TORQ for your 8.25: www.torqmasters.com/torq_lock...
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This product is meant for entertainment purposes only. Your mileage may vary. Do not try this at home. Void where prohibited. Some assembly required. For off-road use only. Slippery when wet. Batteries not included. Do not use while operating a motor vehicle, heavy equipment, cherokee XJ, wrangler TJ, wrangler JK, or any Jeep vehicle, especially the newer Fiat ones. How-to videos may be too intense for some viewers and children under 30 years of age. Please remain seated until the 4x4 ride has come to a complete stop. Studies have shown viewing these videos causes increased cancer risks in laboratory test people. I am not a professional, I have no training, I'm not even particularly good at horse whispering. Don't believe everything that you know. Please keep your hands in the vehicle at all times. Do not tap on glass. Do not eat anything that has been on the floor for more than 3 days. Keep your hands to yourself. Not to be taken internally. Reproduction strictly prohibited. Driver does not carry cash. Objects in Bleepinjeep mirrors may be farther than they appear.
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@chrisking9711 3 жыл бұрын
I like that you got a Matt's Offroad recovery coat on.
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
Us yellow XJs gotta stick together 😎🤙🏻
@MrBrandorambo 3 жыл бұрын
And hat!
@YokosukaGaijin 3 жыл бұрын
Got my Matt's yankum rope on order already too
@killer1963daddy 3 жыл бұрын
Yellow xj, beard,hat, coat,.....number 1 matt fan lol
@ddgatewood71 3 жыл бұрын
MORR is such a great channel from such a down to earth guy. Fab Rats, too.
@dannyg4288 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I watched this about a dozen times before I set out to install mine. It came in super handy!
@DirtRoadTherapy 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome so glad it helped!
@pyrostwistedride4821 9 ай бұрын
I always enjoy videos like these, I have a torqlocker in the front of my CanAm sxs. It was hands down the best upgrade I have spent money on, for that machine.
@alexgrindnshine2522 Жыл бұрын
Installed a powertrax Lock right in my 1999 Durango with 91/4 diff. So far it has been a fantastic upgrade. There is a spec on the c-clip axle I missed when reading the manual which require me to take it back apart after hearing binding noise on right turns. Simple fix. So far rode manners are fantastic, works best when you coast tight turns. But other then that I drive it like normal. Haven’t had a chance to off road it yet just some mud stuff and it did great. The wife drives the truck and doesn’t even notice it. Trucks on 32” with 2inch lift.
@stevencarter7999 3 жыл бұрын
I like the look of the steele wheels.
@Axle347 3 жыл бұрын
I run a torque masters front Aussie locker in my d30. After making that upgrade, it's the most important upgrade I've ever made. Not to mention the price is so fricken slow, there's no excuse not to have one. Nobody can touch these for the price, and it's quality made USA parts AAAAND their customer service is incredible. I hit them up for a lot of clunking noises, and they handed me to a professional differential expert that sent me photos, diag points, and offered a warranty if nothing else would fix it. Go get you one and lock it up 🤟🏻
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
That’s AWESOME
@officialWWM 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t get it, why are they called Aussie lockers when they are made in America? 🤔
@Axle347 2 жыл бұрын
@@officialWWM I belive the design what first created in aus
@officialWWM 2 жыл бұрын
@@Axle347 ahh, that makes sense.
@lifewithdoberman1701 2 жыл бұрын
I have spartan locker in my 8.1/4 jeep xj I want too put in front too how is your experience on road driving with front and rear lunchbox locker?
@ghernandez6457 3 жыл бұрын
This video came in clutch, ordered mine yesterday can't wait to put it on my JKU!
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
Watch our “polishing a turd” video for instructions on installing a non C-clip TORQ locker (in a Dana 30 but will be more similar to your Dana install in the JKU)
@ghernandez6457 3 жыл бұрын
@@DRTJon Will do thanks!
@steveblankenship5474 3 жыл бұрын
That was a nice video. I love the easy install and you drove on wet pavement right away which answered those issues having a locker on street roads in those conditions. That one little mud hill my XJ would not have been able to do that so I’m going to look into this more. I also did not hear any loud clicking noise during the video. Yes- Matt’s Off Road Recovery I’m a fan too. I also make the XJ storage bag which you will see sometimes in his videos.
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. It’s really amazing how much more capable your Jeep becomes with lockers front and rear. And that’s awesome about the bags! Got a link?
@steveblankenship5474 3 жыл бұрын
@@DRTJon www.ebay.com/itm/Jeep-Cherokee-XJ-rear-storage-bag-Grey-/233698168429?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292
@constructiontech1970 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work Jon!
@dandahermitseals5582 Жыл бұрын
Wow this is what I been wanting to hear about. We live in the NW mountain as above the snow line and have a year round challenge on the trail up to our cabin. Many challenges. Actually right now we are snow bound.Groan.
@ebalmes 3 жыл бұрын
Good timing. Just got BOTH my lockers in the mail today.
@andreashoiby4333 3 ай бұрын
How they holding up mate?
@Skiridr22 3 жыл бұрын
You made it look so easy I was nervous just watching 😬
@tuggerthegriz5484 3 жыл бұрын
Ok boys can we get another cheap Jeep challenge on the go ? I need more of that series in my life right now
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm a northeast version? 🤔
@Wooskii1 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Vid! I wish I went with the TORQ instead of the Powertrax No-Slip w/ all it's extra parts, could have saved $$$ and probably wouldn't have noticed much of a difference... First time I drove a Jeep with a rear lunchbox I thought it was gonna be a nightmare due to internet comments like "random lane changes". I have noticed thought, breaking into turns has a similar effect as accelerating out of turns (locking/ unlocking), makes sense if you think about it. Now that I've had 2 different lunchbox lockers in the rear of my XJ, (Spartan then Powertrax) they seem to both behave very similar; great on and off road... A friend of mine said "I wouldn't have even known there was a locker in it if you hadn't told me", after driving it. They're not as bad as people make em out to be. Definitely noticable in the snow but just barely (I don't know anything about front autos on-road and in snow but I feel like it wouldn't be that bad)
@FlawedOffroad 3 жыл бұрын
People like to dog the lunchbox, but I loved mine in the Dana 30 ran it for 6+ years before I started my axle swaps!
@brianhibbs9300 3 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy hearing talk about snow and freezing weather from a guy in a Joshua Tree t-shirt...lol
@KJsProjects 3 жыл бұрын
The lunchboc locker (Spartan) I installed in my ZJ has been one of the best upgrades I have done next to the lift and tires. It does great off-road. It is a little noisy, but this is a trail Jeep. The only bad thing about the Dana 44a is the lack of locker options, so its either lunchbox or ARB.
@pawpatina 3 жыл бұрын
its only noisy because NO LOCKER INSTRUCTIONS ever tell you to use red axle grease and grease the entire assembly BEFORE you install it.... centrifugal force would dictate that the axle gear oil will NEVER get to the center of the locker... so it never gets any lube... LUBE IT WITH AXLE GREASE! I HAVE 10,000 MILES ON A SPARTAN AND IT IS SILENT, WHEEL LOCK TO LOCK TURNING AROUND ON A DIME, NO CLICKING OR CLANKING.
@virgilpalmer2427 2 жыл бұрын
@@pawpatina Thank you
@andypastore3299 2 жыл бұрын
@@pawpatina Thank you, I've watched numerus install videos and no mention of lubing the whole locker assembly.
@pawpatina 2 жыл бұрын
@@andypastore3299 no problem. we just sold a jeep that had over 8,000 miles on the locker install. still silent.
@ohsee1346 3 жыл бұрын
The c clips definitely can be frustrating to install; just wait til you have to take them back out! Are you running stock shafts in the rear? I haven’t upgraded yet but the 29 spline 8.25 has held up to being locked on 35s for me...
@ricksnowden8408 2 жыл бұрын
Ordering mine now... Thanks!!
@MrChomcky 3 жыл бұрын
Super cool wish I knew about this sooner
@DonkeyStomperProducts 3 жыл бұрын
Just put Spartan Lockers my ZJ still working on it slowly but surely!
@projectbumblejeep4190 3 жыл бұрын
Recognized the stretch of 61 you were driving as you closed out your video. I live about 5 minutes from there. Would love to go wheeling sometime if your going up that way again. Looked like maybe the St. Clair area? I'm running open diffs at present, so some of what you were on would be a challenge for the Bumble Jeep. Hoping to get lockers installed soon. God bless stay well.
@salimaljahwary2746 3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@RyanWithAviators 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I love those action shots of the XJ, Jon. The wheels and tire carrier really set it apart. I do have to say I have reservations regarding getting a lunchbox locker for my Ranger. I daily it for fun and work and I don't care about clicking noises, but I do not want a bunch of hopping or any binding. Any extra opinions and experiences beyond the tests in the video are welcome.
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
I do feel like it's likely a bit of a different scenario running one in a pickup truck. I have no experience with that setup but it seems the back end being lighter would play into some less desirable handling characteristics. Unless of course your truck is set up that it is more balanced with a constant load in the bed, I'm not sure. I still have not had a chance to drive it on snowy/icy roads (unfortunately was out of town last time we had snow coming down) but I have had it in deep off road snow and it behaved exactly as anticipated, no surprises. I'll be sure to run out and shoot a little segment to post on Instagram at the first opportunity!
@RyanWithAviators 3 жыл бұрын
@@DRTJon The difference in it being a pickup was one of my concerns, yes. I guess I'll have to do a bit more research before I pull the trigger. I'll post my findings on here for the benefit of anyone else reading this with the same concerns for a pickup.
@cmac956 3 жыл бұрын
good job, video is informitive thank you.
@freeidaho-videos 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you. It has been a year, how are the lockers holding up. My XJ is 90% daily drive and 10% off-road. Can a lunchbox locker perform well in both environments? A 4x4 without lockers is a 2 wheel drive when you need 4 wheel drive the most. Thanks again!
@DirtRoadTherapy Жыл бұрын
I still love them and run them on and off road. You can follow my current adventures by clicking on my user name 🤗
@jeep2003 3 жыл бұрын
I always wondered how these unlock. It looks like the side to side movement of the axles when going around turns actually does it unlocking the outside tire. On c clip axles anyway. and the cross shaft pressure keeps it locked in under load
@gutteherr 3 жыл бұрын
They do not truly unlock. They ratchet when there is a differential in wheel speed.
@keithchestnut4680 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I have a 99 keep Cherokee xj that has stalling issues can you help me figure it out all ignition has been changed it’s a choking feeling on the throttle and eventually after turning it off for a few it kicks back on to drive. Also the whole fuel system has been replaced as well and it’s getting good pressure. No burning gas smell neither. Do you think my manifold gasket is cracked or a bad o2 sensor. Please let me know if you can.
@ProjectDanH Жыл бұрын
My man John right there!
@DirtRoadTherapy Жыл бұрын
*Dirt Road Therapy Jon* Hahaha how you been Dan?
@ProjectDanH Жыл бұрын
@@DirtRoadTherapy Crazy busy lately... trying to get back to jeep life!
@rickyhaen8766 3 жыл бұрын
You should always use locktite on that pin bolt that holds the carrier shaft in place. They’re known to back out and cause havoc!
@REDMAN298 3 жыл бұрын
Matt (from Utah) has more trouble with ring gear bolts. bwahaha When they fell out it almost made him cuss.
@hrantconstructioninc.6518 Жыл бұрын
Would you recommend the blue or the red ones?
@josephhomen 6 ай бұрын
@@hrantconstructioninc.6518red
@dandahermitseals5582 Жыл бұрын
Very Important question. Can you install that locker without removing the carrier ? Thanks. Dandahermit.
@als484 3 жыл бұрын
I installed one 20 + years ago in my Toyota made by Detroit called a lok-right I still drive it daily
@hrantconstructioninc.6518 Жыл бұрын
Good work, success
@CarsTrucksWhatever 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 1998 jeep zj 5.9 limited and I did the 241 t case swap I was wondering if this locker will work with my jeep
@drgil65 Жыл бұрын
It’s been two years, are you still running those same lockers? Also in the video, were you only in 2WD going up the hills, or in 4WD? How is the handling on dry pavement at highway speeds 75 mph up? Thanks for your video
@dandahermitseals5582 Жыл бұрын
Ok so are you testing with the torque locker in both diffs or just the rear?? Thanks Dandahermit
@long-jeep 3 жыл бұрын
Great and inexpensive mod. There is no point in having a four wheel drive that is not four wheel drive.
@chadalcock7275 3 жыл бұрын
I need to get lockers but don't want to put money into a Dana 35.
@long-jeep 3 жыл бұрын
@@chadalcock7275 If you have no plans to go larger than a 35" tire, you can install a Super35 kit in the Dana 35 and have a highly reliable, locked rear end.
@chadalcock7275 3 жыл бұрын
@@long-jeep That would be cool, but it has other issues too.
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
Easy swap to bolt in an 8.25
@andymonk4089 3 жыл бұрын
I have 2004 Quadra Trac V-8.
@edwardsimmons3721 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that review, never seen that type of locker installed before.
@zeke7142003 3 жыл бұрын
I had an Aussie locker in the front (D30) of my TJ. Loved it. I don't think I would install a locker in the rear unless it was selectable because of the tire wear.
@jacobh.7076 2 жыл бұрын
Did you not get the same tire wear in the front?
@FISHBREATHH Жыл бұрын
@@jacobh.7076 no, you only get the extra wear in front when you are in 4 wheel drive
@garyvanmeter4911 Жыл бұрын
@@FISHBREATHH I assume you did not have lockout hubs? I ask as I am thinking of putting one in the front of my 1993 XJ which does not have a front axle disconnect. Thanks!
@generaldrz 2 жыл бұрын
I put one in the rear of my Wrangler and it feels like frame is twisting or wheel lifting when I take off from stop and when I shift gears on road
@bmstowell1 Жыл бұрын
Does Torx make a locker for a Dana 41 in a CJ2A and do I need to pull both axles out for the install? Many thanks!!!
@dandahermitseals5582 Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking that because the clutches are short lived in the TrakLok that the lunchbox would be better?? Really hoping it can be done?? Do you know??
@jeeperalainbigal Жыл бұрын
Superbe vidéo !
@johnvon9268 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, I am going to buy one for my Jeep Liberty 8.25
@671JK 3 жыл бұрын
Great video… are those good for daily driving as well?
@hunterbrock2347 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully my F-250 will get a lunchbox locker out back sooner than later. The insight of this video was very helpful both from the installation aspect and the driving characteristics side. I'm cheap as can be and will probably go the most affordable route I can but options are a bit limited for my big truck.
@danielleon-jy3wn Жыл бұрын
DID YOU have to tune any thing on the jeep after adding the locker
@gatovelez4580 3 ай бұрын
I have the same one on my XJ, is it normal that when I drive and let go of the gas it makes a noice and ones I step on the gas it stops. Is it that I need to replace the locker or just the spring or is that normal?
@dandahermitseals5582 Жыл бұрын
What tool is that you're inserting the second c clip with?? Can I buy one or diy? Dandahermit
@dylanwaldun8890 7 ай бұрын
I have a 1999 dodge ram 1500 4x4 I was thinking about putting one in the front Dana 44 low pinion I don't know if it would hold up to 35s 250hp and it weighs 7000 lb what do you think and a little sand and mud I don't do rock climbing
@dandahermitseals5582 Жыл бұрын
Where do I get this locker and price?? Also if my Dana 44 has TrakLok in it will this locker install in it?? Very important question. Thanks Dandahermit
@robertgarcia6385 3 жыл бұрын
Would you feel comfortable putting in 2020 jl eco diesel
@oldreliable303 3 жыл бұрын
Ive had one in the back of my f150 for years, ford 8.8, its handled about 300,000 miles of towing, off road, and abuse. Still going.
@king21w48 3 жыл бұрын
Does it chirp while turning? Im thinking of putting one in my 12 burb...
@oldreliable303 3 жыл бұрын
@@king21w48 no it makes a clicking sound. But does not make the tires slip
@kewlmanable Жыл бұрын
Damn are you in Hamburg? Im in Reading and Ive definately seen you around Berks county. Thats a badass rig. Mines in my garage in Bernville being built maybe Ill see ya around!
@terraforge_motorsports 3 жыл бұрын
I was one of the first ones to get the TORQ Locker when they came out. Threw it in my TJ’s D30 and wheeled the heck out of it. They perform just like an e-locker or air locker while the Jeeps in 4wd, and only “ratchet” in 2WD if the steering wheel at full lock. I wouldn’t recommend having one set up in the rear since the rear is always under power and will result in some strange driving characteristics. I enjoy the videos you put out and love your TDI XJ!!
@pawpatina 3 жыл бұрын
grease it first and you won't ever hear it.
@terraforge_motorsports 3 жыл бұрын
Grease is only used for initial set up of the locker and will get washed out by the axles gear oil. Running a higher viscosity gear oil, a thicker cover, or turning your radio to max blast are the only ways you’ll combat the ratching noise.
@pawpatina 3 жыл бұрын
@@terraforge_motorsports yea, you must be right cause what would I know with my two jeeps with over 10,000 miles on each and a spartan in both of em.... if only people had the common sense to click on someones name and see their videos showing they aren't just talking out their azz like most people.... ahem... looking at you.
@terraforge_motorsports 3 жыл бұрын
Pull the carrier out and see for yourself. And I fail to see how you having a KZfaq channel and only putting 20,000 miles behind the wheel of your Jeep translates into any credible knowledge. I do this for a living and have an understanding of how components are engineered and the way they operate. If you feel like your 400+ videos that average 50 views each make you a professional then I’m sorry for anyone who mistakes them for having any merit. In all honesty do you have any mechanical experience or do you just get your knowledge watching someone else do the work on KZfaq and then just regurgitate that information? Next time I’m in the market of having my Cyber Truck LS swapped on BeamNGdrive I’ll be sure to contact you. 😂
@eMotoAZ Жыл бұрын
@@terraforge_motorsports no one would ever let an a****** work on their rig. And why does everybody that has the most knowledge a jerk?
@Moats_Life 3 жыл бұрын
In the video I didn't notice the loud clicking noise on turns normally associated with these types of lockers. You mention you didn't notice the ratcheting noise in your comments. Now that you've driven longer with it, do you hear the loud clicking (ratcheting) sound when you turn on pavement? Does it make the sound more on dry pavement versus wet?
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t hear it over the diesel LOL. I can hear it if I listen for it the only sound I ever notice when not specifically listening for it is tire bark
@steverx4460 3 жыл бұрын
There seems to be a few different branded versions of these. In Australia, they advertise Aussie Lokka. I'm thinking of put one in my front diff - which is an open diff. My rear diff is a LSD. The lokka would only be engaged when I engage 4wd.
@klampykixx 3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly my aetup. Front Aussie locker, sloppy lsd rear. Im about to put an 8.25 into mine and contemplating a locker for it too. The front bangs under part load when steering which I believe is normal but the clicking when free-wheeling is much softer and not a problem. Just nervous that its gonna bang in the rear too
@jg9605 3 жыл бұрын
I need a differential lock to get stung where can I get them i am from mexico
@carloshereaud5463 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Quick question before i place the order, u mentioned that for a daily is better to do it in the front, Would it destroy my mud tires since they front tires turn left and right all the time or would it be better in the rear since they dont turn as much??? And since im here, how do u like them skyjackers 8000? I need shocks asap skyjackers 8000 or max black? Thanks bud
@DirtRoadTherapy Жыл бұрын
I have not noticed any accelerated or uneven wear on my tires running TORQ lockers for 30,000+ miles
@jamescarter6318 Жыл бұрын
Is it unlocked during normal driving and sharp turns?
@markjmaxwell9819 3 жыл бұрын
Nice l wonder if they make them for nine inch ford differentials and other performance diffs..... 👍 Wether it's an electric vehicle or an ice engine, power tranfer is needed.....
@montoyajj 3 жыл бұрын
After bout two weeks have you hit any harder trails and if so how do you like it ? Another question is what is your exhaust setup on your jeep it sounds good!
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve hit some much harder trails, lines I never would have attempted or made before and it performs great. In my next video you’ll get to see some more crawling action. Exhaust is 2.5” with nothing but a MBRP 16” resonator between the turbo and tail pipe.
@russjowett2137 3 жыл бұрын
Great video John! Thanks for making this!. I was planning on getting a Detroit truetrac for my 8.25. But after watching this I’m thinking I might get this torque locker instead. If you pop a wheel in the air. Do you think this torque locker will perform like a Detroit truetrac and not really work unless you add a bit of E brake on the rear wheels? Also can you please tell me what width are your steel wheels that you run with your 33 x 10.5” wide bfg tires. I currently have 15x8 alloy wheels. And 32 x 11.5 bfg at Ko tires. But my next set I’m thinking of going to 33 x 10.5 bfg at ko2 tires. I currently air down to 13-14psi when off road and have never had any issues with popping a bead with the 11.5 wide tire on an 8 wide rim. Do you think I could still go down to 13-14”psi with the 10.5” wide tire on the same 8” wide rim? That’s my only concern/deciding factor with going to the 10.5” wide tire. (My alloy wheels are not beadlock wheels). Thanks!
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Russ, I know for a fact from experience that the TORQ lockers continue sending equal power to both wheels like a true locker if one wheel comes off the ground. The wheels I’m running are 17x7 and tires are 285/70/17 (33x10.5 like you said). I usually air down to 15 and haven’t lost a bead yet.
@russjowett2137 3 жыл бұрын
@@DRTJon Thank you very much John for your reply! That Jeep of yours must be an absolute blast to drive with 300ft lbs of torque that low down in the rpm range and great mpg to boot! I think I will re gear to 4:56 in my Jeep. With it being the 4.0 and it’s an automatic. And next tires at 33” tall.
@immelting9834 2 жыл бұрын
@@russjowett2137 a 4:30 is what I'm looking for . I have 33's and the 4.0 in my wj. I might have to buy some viper gears . They share the same center section as the wj. Not too sure if it's a perfect swap or not .
@anthonyjensen3483 3 жыл бұрын
Are 43” tires too much for a true track locker in a dana 60 high pinion front and a sterling rear ? What lockers would you recommend has to be streetable also
@Lray4x4 3 жыл бұрын
Truetracks aren't lockers, I would reccomend Detroit or Grizzly lockers for those axles and tires that big.
@dylanholzman8840 3 жыл бұрын
Might be a dumb question. But what is keeping the c clips in? I know on the old gears there is a little channel they sit in and the cross pin cheeps them in place. But I didn’t see a channel on the new parts. Is it the same?
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it recesses in there just enough
@MoparMan-ff8fb 2 жыл бұрын
is your jeep a daily driver or just take it out during snow and mud? I'm working on my moms XJ 1990 jeep lerado with 8.25 rear that is a daily driver . I was thinking of a limited slip especially for tight cornering
@DirtRoadTherapy Жыл бұрын
I daily drove it for about 40,000 miles but now I just use it for adventures. Still a lot of road driving with that though! I don't know that I'd put an auto locker in my Mom's Jeep though.... it does change driving characteristics a bit and someone who doesn't care about the benefits of a locker might not like it. I'm not part of BleepinJeep anymore but you can still follow my adventures with the Spool Bus, just click on my user name 🙂
@duane4972 3 жыл бұрын
Is it available for a ford 8.8 ? Would you recommend it for a heavy (7000 lbs) van ? I'm going to re gear to 4.11 from 3.55 running 31 or 32 inch tires, should I consider another brand / type locker, budget minded ?
@gutteherr 3 жыл бұрын
It will handle whatever you throw at it. It will probably be the strongest part on your axle.
@tombair1401 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I could try them all out but since I can't im still going to go with the sure thing .for me thats arb air lockers .
@jeepindave5464 3 жыл бұрын
Im curious how that front locker handles in the snow. I want to lock my front dana 44 in my yj, but im afraid of heavy understeer.
@Axle347 3 жыл бұрын
I got a front Aussie in my d30. It's pretty awesome, but unlocked it CAN break traction in the snow. It's not a garunte, but if it doesn't wanna ratchet it's gonna spin
@jeepindave5464 3 жыл бұрын
@@Axle347 thanks man. Some are smoother than others on the street. I can unlock the hubs so 2wd is no concern but it's my deep snow vehicle. We get one occasionally around here.
@Axle347 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeepindave5464 all things considered, it's not bad in the snow. I know it's up there in 2wd, but overall it isn't noticable unless you're looking for it
@susu-mi7kx 3 жыл бұрын
Bleeping jeep, 2001 grand cherokee laredo 4.0 6cyl Sometimes the coolant gets low, then it's filled again,. No leaks, changed engine oil, no gunk and coolant looks fine in resevior and under hood when I take that pressure cap off. Please help, these guys just to check want to charge 150. I know cuz I'm not a guy. Why take advantage?? Please help
@stevebraun8217 3 жыл бұрын
Great information. In your opinion if a guy only had the money for one locker, would you go front or rear first?
@corajokinen253 3 жыл бұрын
Most people choose a front locker first. No clicking with daily driving, locker to help pull you over obstacles.
@Olebluee 9 ай бұрын
I'd say front also
@ospcg 3 жыл бұрын
Do tou recomended mobil 1, 5w 30 for you jeep???
@kariverson1 Жыл бұрын
Wait a minute, that works locked all the time? No option to disengage? What about a car you use as a daily driver too?
@reed9153 2 жыл бұрын
Nice hat!
@duketube8375 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I am doing gears as well. When do I install the locker... after the gears have been set and adjusted?
@DirtRoadTherapy Жыл бұрын
It's simple to install after it's all been set, that is what I would suggest! BTW you can still follow my adventures with the Spool Bus, just click on my user name 🙂
@coupleofjeeps8073 3 жыл бұрын
Ive got a cherokee needing some lockers ;)
@nitrorustlerpro15 3 жыл бұрын
How are they on snow and ice?
@eastcoastriders1267 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome your in my neck of the woods. I ride FRO alot. Sxs and my zr2.
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
I just started exploring it this year and really enjoy it, it’s about an hour from me I love having it so close
@eastcoastriders1267 3 жыл бұрын
@@DRTJon have you seen all meats no taters trail yet?
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
@@eastcoastriders1267 I don’t believe so. What tract is it in?
@eastcoastriders1267 3 жыл бұрын
@@DRTJon here's the pin. Its pretty ruff. There's 2 ways short and hard to the right or long and hard to the left lol Dropped pin Near New Castle Township, PA maps.app.goo.gl/6uytas6j42UBaMQFA
@Fix_It_Again_Tony 3 жыл бұрын
@@eastcoastriders1267 Is FRO organized like Rausch Creek, or is it more of a collection of trails on private land that you need a membership to ride? I'm in Harrisburg and have been to Rausch a few times. Always interested in finding people to wheel with. I'm not from the area and don't know anyone else who wheels around here.
@scottmahlan7645 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same rear diff. I purchased the same locker from Torq and I noticed the thrust washers didn't fit so I tried dry fitting it after removing the gears and it wouldn't fit, it was to big. Any ideas?
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
Reach out to them, they’ll definitely help you figure this out
@dhirmer 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think I would be ok installing this spool aka torq locker on a daily driver?
@kawyamsuz 3 жыл бұрын
Spool is different
@teddymeredith2565 3 жыл бұрын
Can we get a walk around on this Jeep? It looks super cool
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! You can look forward to one from me very soon 😎
@ty_thejeepguy 3 жыл бұрын
Yellow XJs FTW!
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
Solar Yellow represent!
@JMTiedemann 3 жыл бұрын
My dad ran lock rites front and rear in his XJ, we came up to a red light with ice on one set of wheels and dry pavement on the other set..... it broke the heads off of almost every bolt holding the crown gear on! we turned around and went home lol
@69yenko65 3 жыл бұрын
B.s, why would it break all the bolts off the ring gear? Did you guys change a gear set and did a little too many rat a tat tat's on the bolts with an impact?
@JMTiedemann 3 жыл бұрын
@@69yenko65 nope, not sure why they let go. it was a lock rite in a D30, so the ring gear wasn't touched. It was a strange break and probably would never happen again.
@gaderrtyboi 3 жыл бұрын
So now you have one in the front and rear how much different is it on the road from the unlocked 30/8.25 combo? Great video!
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
You don’t even know the front is there in 2WD. The rear is only different under hard acceleration which is very minimal, and at low speed turning. With mine being a manual trans it will buck a little in 1st or 2nd at low speed if you’re not paying attention. To be perfectly clear: having the locker in the rear is definitely not the same as having an open diff. But it’s not annoying, loud, unpredictable or dangerous in any road driving situation I’ve been in so far.
@gaderrtyboi 3 жыл бұрын
@@DRTJon okay awesome, thanks for the video and reply on this. Definitely helping me with my xj build @armoredredxj on instagram if you wanna follow that 👍🏼
@WilliamVG Жыл бұрын
Will this setup be fine for a daily driver and occasional off road? I'm driving a 2019 Jeep Wrangler Sport S with a stock Dana m200 axle.
@bleepinjeep Жыл бұрын
Yes, absolutely
@CMichaelLyle 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a racketing noise when making turns on dry pavement and if so, how loud are they?
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
Yes but you can only hear it from the outside with my diesel rattling LOL. I have had it pop loudly two or 3 times but that’s just it camming back in under load (after a hard turn on pavement)
@safetyfirstintexas 3 жыл бұрын
Fits zj 94?
@ergatoid 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, those c-clips look like a PITA. Can you tell me where you were off roading?
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
Famous Reading Outdoors
@barryweisfeld628 3 жыл бұрын
New Jeep owner,. How do you determine what gear to you use when upgrading tires and wheels? Btw great videos, I have learned alot. I have a 90 YJ with RC 4"
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
Check out this video on the subject: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/paqGo9yZsKvGkas.html
@pawpatina 3 жыл бұрын
math
@johnhaerle3957 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda new to lockers and what not. Is this setup all ways locked? Or does it lock under certain driving conditions or acceleration or something.
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
It is unlocked when coasting only. Any acceleration (torque input on the pinion) and it's fully locked. For me with a manual transmission I just put it in neutral or fully depress the clutch--as often as possible--when making tight turns on pavement. Off road I almost never wish it was unlocked.
@mcguireskaratetheartofsurv1942 4 ай бұрын
Nice xj’s
@wherestarget1607 2 жыл бұрын
Any of the problems with lockers on the streets/highways when turning or hitting the gas like before? Are they just as noisy?
@DirtRoadTherapy 2 жыл бұрын
The driving characteristics are slightly altered overall, but my feeling is it is MORE predictable in every situation. It is just a matter of learning how it is different and adapting your habits. Not wrong or bad, just different.
@madman432000 3 жыл бұрын
Wish you would have shown it functioning (locking and unlocking) prior to putting on the cover while still on the jack stands.
@soulis1000 3 жыл бұрын
Cant agree more, sure its a nice install video but i still dont get how it works or what is does realy?
@gutteherr 3 жыл бұрын
Once installed, your axle is locked 100% full time. It does not truly unlock either, it just ratchets when there is a differential in wheel speed.
@danhambrick6331 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job on the install.I wish my 2001 XJ came with the 8.25 instead of the Dana 35💩What size tires are you running and what ring and pinion ratio?
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh you got an ABS model boo haha. I’m running 33x10.5 and 4.10. TDI puts down about 300 ft lbs under boost (1800-2200 RPM) and is also equipped with a doubler which gives the option of 7:1 low range
@danhambrick6331 3 жыл бұрын
That doubler would be nice.Actually mine don't have ABS either...
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
That’s odd, the only 01’s I’ve seen with D35 are ABS equipped so I always thought that’s why they had the 35 not the 8.25. Only in a Jeep!
@kylemcgeever 3 жыл бұрын
@@DRTJon RAD!
@davidwpaul3815 3 жыл бұрын
@ Jon , do you have a video or any info on that doubler your running. The Torq locker will most likely go in my 99 upcountry (D30/8.25 Trak-lock) . The ox locker is a great product but hard to justify when the Torq is so well designed and covered for 4 years. Curious how the road manners are though with the lunchbox in the D30.
@bdr5150 2 жыл бұрын
Hey quick question for you. I have a 99 xj on 33s. Its a daily driver with light trail use and also doubles as a beach buggy in soft sand. I was thinking of upgrading to a locker, or limited slip. If you were to upgrade, would you do the front or rear first? And what would you put in the axles?
@DirtRoadTherapy 2 жыл бұрын
I would probably suggest doing a TORQ or Aussie locker in the front. Your daily on road deriving will be unaffected, and if you get stuck in 2WD in the sand, popping it in 4 HI is basically guaranteed to get you out since BOTH front wheels will go to work pulling your vehicle.
@carloshereaud5463 2 жыл бұрын
Quick question,, dies the locker click everytime u turn? I want to add it to my daily but im sacred of that clicking sound everytime i turn
@carloshereaud5463 2 жыл бұрын
@@DirtRoadTherapy dies the locker make that clicking sound everytime u turn? I want to add it to my daily. How does it handle on pavement? And would u do front or rear since is a daily? Thanks but.
@DirtRoadTherapy 2 жыл бұрын
@@carloshereaud5463 I don’t even notice the clicking. I have these lockers front and rear and have gotten very long wear on my tires. It does handle different than open diff but that’s not to say badly it’s just not identical. You get used to it, and it’s incredibly predictable which I like. I daily mine
@carloshereaud5463 2 жыл бұрын
@@DirtRoadTherapy perfect 👌🏼👌🏼 and last question bud, do u recomend front or rear? What would u do knowing that is a daily?
@motownXJdad9565 3 жыл бұрын
what front axle are you running John? did i spot locking hubs? have you driven the xj in snow with the lunchbox in the front yet? im in michigan obviously so snow performance is a biggie for me, i want all the traction i can get, but i dont want to feel that front diff, (ie) torque steer. im torn between the volvo g80 locker, a detroit locker torsen LSD, and a LB style locker, the LSD is about 150-200$ more than the lunchbox, the volvo is about the same $ or less than the LB style lockers depending on where you get one from.
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a Dana 30. Look up my video “polishing a turd”
@motownXJdad9565 3 жыл бұрын
@@DRTJon you need your own playlist on The channel
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
I do have my own playlist, there’s one just for Project Spool Bus and one of every video I’ve made for BleepinJeep
@motownXJdad9565 3 жыл бұрын
@@DRTJon i did not see it, but i did find the vid and i rewatched it again
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
Here’s the playlist kzfaq.info/sun/PL1U__4as20wGHfVoPlnDA8fIHaKok28pU
@alexeimagher9083 Жыл бұрын
Hi BleepinJeep. I gave a TJ wish DANA44 LSD rear axle. My LSD shows signs if being dead soon, and I started to look for the replacement option. It is my daily driving car. Would it be a good option to swap diff to TORQ launchbox diff? Is it safe to drive the self locking lunchbox diff on highways all weather condition?
@bleepinjeep Жыл бұрын
its ok on the highway but the LSD carrier is different than a standard carrier which means getting a new carrier and setting up gears again. For that reason I would just have someone repair or replace the LSD clutches and be done with it.
@alexeimagher9083 Жыл бұрын
@@bleepinjeep Thanks for quick response.
@SLICKW1993 3 жыл бұрын
Is it worth building up a Dana 30? I’ve got 37’s on my LJ with 44 in back. I’d be interested in getting these lockers for my Jeep.
@DRTJon 3 жыл бұрын
I would not run a locked D30 with 37’s
@pawpatina 3 жыл бұрын
no
@stewart4711 3 жыл бұрын
east enough and well worth it
@jesseplz 2 жыл бұрын
The Torq kit does not come with a new center pin, is this ever a problem? Some other kits do include a new center pin. Not sure why the difference in kit components.
@DirtRoadTherapy Жыл бұрын
You would only need to replace the center pin if it's worn. A good condition stock center pin is definitely strong enough
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