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@skoopsro76564 жыл бұрын
what the hell happened to that poor 7700 IHS?
@skoopsro76564 жыл бұрын
Intel removed ECC support from 10th gen I3s also. Previously that was atleast SOME argument for them in like a home NAS or something. Not they dont even have that.
@Zarcondeegrissom4 жыл бұрын
binary naming, cuz they couldn't afford to let a lowly i3 have a hexadecimal name, lol.
@vrealon77384 жыл бұрын
Why do you render the charts at low res and upscale them? Intersecting lines have obvious signs of upscaling and the text didn't fair much better either.
@terrycoder83284 жыл бұрын
So it's looking like the rumoured i3 "k" cpu isn't happening. At this price point can't see going intel over Ryzen especially if you wait for a B550 board for future proofing to boot.
@Zosu224 жыл бұрын
Dear Intel, please stop artificially limiting memory speeds on your other chipsets. Regards, Everyone
@devilmikey004 жыл бұрын
But artificially limiting features is the Intel way!
@mykhaylovarvarin90784 жыл бұрын
"Artificial limits" is a second name of Intel
@seraphis4 жыл бұрын
Cool guy AMD understands their product and how memory speed is so beneficial. They let you tweak memory on A320, the cheapest and probably most unreliable shit out there. Intel however, I doubt you'll ever see an unlocked memory B/H/Q board ever.
@3rdGenGuy4 жыл бұрын
Intel has no way to Gimp lower end CPUs now. they used to delete hyper threading, but they can't do it anymore. so a $120 CPU can beat a $500 10900k in some games.
@LukasLiwandouw4 жыл бұрын
They are not limiting it, they just want to secretly tell everyone that they cant push it any further
@briansutton10054 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't we be listening to Intel's CEO and be focused less on benchmarks ;)
@Brandon-xj4yv4 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@wewwow7104 жыл бұрын
True
@deshan794 жыл бұрын
Feel the magic instead
@naiasonod4 жыл бұрын
Just buy it. Just buy it. Just buy it. Just buy it.
@haukionkannel4 жыл бұрын
Well we just think happy thoughs and think benefits... it is cheaper than 7700 was... So there has been some progress... and now something completely different... more benchmarks! :)
@fissilepear78054 жыл бұрын
The time stamps make these videos so much better since I can get right where I want to for the video. Thank you for that extra effort 🙏👍
@davidbrennan54 жыл бұрын
I wish every channel did this.
@GamersNexus4 жыл бұрын
No problem. Just please remember to watch the other parts if you ever run into questions. The biggest problem caused by timestamps is when people post questions that are answered in sections they don't watch. As long as everyone knows to check those sections first, it's all positive!
@kevkas4 жыл бұрын
@@GamersNexus that's a good point, they still are a great addition though, thanks for going the extra mile to add them, I appreciate them.
@maYdaY13374 жыл бұрын
@@GamersNexus why not watch the whole video instead then ? :D Timestamps only have one use for me. If i rewatch a video and want to find a specific chart or so.
@randocrypto16784 жыл бұрын
If as a community we were able to get 1600 AF the official product name, I'm convinced we can also get this called the i3-20
@JaZoN_XD4 жыл бұрын
Yesssss I agree
@GhostlyGhille4 жыл бұрын
i3-X1 or X100
@OMGJL4 жыл бұрын
as how officially you would call this CPU as ten one-hundred, it should be as i3 10 100, which is i3 2-4
@mparagames4 жыл бұрын
@@OMGJL clever, but weird naming
@thomasesr4 жыл бұрын
We first need to decide little endian or big endian.
@Teletha4 жыл бұрын
oh god are we already here, my 7700K getting compared to a i3
@gacekbd4 жыл бұрын
And still holds ground when OC, shame they did not show OCed 8700k when comapring to i5 10600k in graphs
@St0dal4 жыл бұрын
Feels like yesterday, doesnt it
@MiGujack34 жыл бұрын
Aye, but I'm glad I ditched my i6-6600K when COVID hit, no true upgrade path.
@abhishekmohapatra66174 жыл бұрын
That too the lowest locked one
@nicholasjoseph90624 жыл бұрын
Went from i5 4440 to ryzen 7 2700x. Very happy.
@Celician834 жыл бұрын
You know, the frame time charts almost seem like Intel purposely released this before the B&H boards so that they would not be tested at stock memory frequencies, but with 3200MHz🤔
@69mviewsnt3 жыл бұрын
typical snarky Intel. thank god for sending us Steve here
@clintonlane2 жыл бұрын
Here in Japan the AMD CPUs are much more expensive. The i3-10105 can be had for 18,000 yen while the Ryzen 3300x goes for 38,000 yen. I guess demand for the AMD CPUs has pushed the price up. It has been that way for a few years now.
@mikeclarke39904 жыл бұрын
That 3300x just looks better every day.
@bengrogan97104 жыл бұрын
Amen to that. Looking to replace my other half's i5-6500 rig with one. I figure a reasonable 3300x and B550 build will do for a good few years. Then later down the line add a Zen 2+ R5 and use the 3300x in a htpc
@timothygibney1594 жыл бұрын
@@bengrogan9710 I wouldn't bother. If you want to upgrade because you are experiencing micro stutter or lag in fps or in games which are MMOs like World of Warcraft it is because they use multiple threads. You will continue to see stutters on a 3300x. If you can save some more $$$ by the end of the summer when human malware stops disrupting parts get an i5 or at least a 3600x or 4600 which is right around the corner. Better yet a 3700x. The reason being is XBoxOne (next gen) will include 8 cores 16 threaded Ryzen CPU and all your games will use 8 to 16 threads. That 3300x will be obsolete FAST for these ported games. THe only reason games don't all perform like crap is Intel forced 4 core CPUs so long that porting xbox games requires developers to recode with less threads. Now? Why bother.We see it now in many new games like FarCry even if the overall fps is good the .1 lows suck on less than 12 threads.
@bengrogan97104 жыл бұрын
@@timothygibney159 More a case of stuttering due to lack of threads causing choking when she has chrome open when gaming and the microstutters in WoW I know from past experience with my old i7-3770k are fixed with the additional thread count since they patched in 8.1 Bear in min I said a 6500, not a K sku - the 3300x is a flat upgrade of all aspect even before considering thread counts As stated the 3300x is planned as an interim until the Zen 2+ launch after which its to transition to a HTPC itx once the 4600 actually becomes available as opposed to a paper launch - which I don't expect too soon since the info suggests the XT refresh coming to tide us over
@xPandamon4 жыл бұрын
@@AM-mk3zc In germany both seem to cost about 130€, the 3300X is easily the better choice in that case
@Crustee04 жыл бұрын
Timothy Gibney nah games wont be using those 8 cores 16 threads soon, it will be quite long before it trickles down to pc and mainstream games
@alistairblaire60014 жыл бұрын
The ram frequency limits on Intel's lower end boards really hurts the value proposition of their low end cpus
@03jalapeno4 жыл бұрын
The 7700K still costs $350 new. I have wanted to upgrade my rig for years but the price just isn't right! I'm moving to Ryzen!
@JerryFlowersIII4 жыл бұрын
Second hand is probably your best bet if you want that chip.
@BeowulfCav4 жыл бұрын
That's why people that say buy a locked Intel CPU and buy a faster one later are braindead. Intel CPUs don't drop in price, you have to go to secondhand market and even then they hold their value. Meanwhile Ryzen CPUs just get cheaper and cheaper and get you most of the way there. No brainer, go with Ryzen unless you can afford the best from the get go.
@mohdfaizal67734 жыл бұрын
@@JerryFlowersIII 🌸choice is good. 😋👍💐
@TheAndrewDET4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many people are going AMD for this exact reason. It's infuriating seeing them sell more or less the same silicon for 5 years and forcing full system upgrades to get it at a reasonable price. I'd buy a 7700k right now for $122 (10100 MSRP). Instead I'm holding on until Renoir APUs and then buy, buy Intel.
@tobiaspauli4 жыл бұрын
@@TheAndrewDET that's the exact reason I switched to am4, those used parts are so intriguing to me. Used intel part prices are just retarded the only other option is to buy a xeon
@noegthezemeraldghostie62874 жыл бұрын
Why the hell did Intel knee-cap the cache on their CPU? Did they want their i7 6700 to remain relevant?
@Peterowsky4 жыл бұрын
Can't have their new i3 beat their five year old i7...
@bleem29514 жыл бұрын
Is not only AMD that bin theyr chips, ya know....
@MitternachtAngel4 жыл бұрын
Processors don't have much to offer anymore, it's getting harder and harder to upgrade at a worthwhile price. I bet manufacturers have no idea what they will do within the next 10 years.
@timothygibney1594 жыл бұрын
They actually think people will just go oh darn I guess I got to pay for an i5 or i7 and give Intel more $$$. What they don't understand is post 2017 is AMD will be happy to take their money instead. Once gamers who are allergic to AMD as eww (many exist due to their past products) and switch they are more than likely to stay loyal to that brand. Intel is cutting the nose to spite the face as they want to keep Intel gamers who don't go to Gamers Nexus to be fanboys for life and that changes when you go Ryzen. Intel should at least make an i3K unlocked cache for budget gamers at this price and cut the cost of this CPU to $99 or something.
@quintoblanco87464 жыл бұрын
To differentiate it from the Core i3-10300. Market segmentation works. The Core i3-10100 is good value because of the inclusion of a GPU, the Core i3-10300 is a meaningful upgrade. AMD offers better value, but it's clear that Intel at this point can't compete on value or (multi-core) performance, so they rely on brand recognition, which is, at least for now, a valid strategy.
@metallixro3 жыл бұрын
Theres one really awesome reason to buy the i3 10100: you cant find a Ryzen 3300X anywhere!
@divoulos57583 жыл бұрын
Actually yes and in my country now the 10100f costs less than the 3100
@jeffho17273 жыл бұрын
@@divoulos5758 You can actually find one???
@divoulos57583 жыл бұрын
@@jeffho1727 yes it's actually the best budget option in my country for 80€ is a vfm cpu compared to the 90€ ryzen 3100 while most other cpus can't be found at reasonable prices due to the shortages right now
@marshalldteach35453 жыл бұрын
YEA... 3300x is now 230$ rn.. i dont think its worth
@grossly8203 жыл бұрын
@@syaondri its the retailers/scalpers and stock shortages
@anusmcgee41504 жыл бұрын
If we could go ahead and stop buying all the goddamn Ryzen 3 3300X's when they are restocked, that would be GREEEEEEEAT. /jealous
@bananya60204 жыл бұрын
i'm still waiting for micro center to get the 3300x at cheap for like $99 or something because that's just how they are
@mohdfaizal67734 жыл бұрын
Selling off 😋😙like Hawt cakes eh. Great for AMD😋. Some how 😘👍
@FDFANATIC5414 жыл бұрын
I feel you. I orderer mine on may 25 and im still waiting for shopblt.com to get them in. They say they will be instock on the 9th of this month so preorder now if u can
@FDFANATIC5414 жыл бұрын
@@bananya6020 ive never ordered from them but ill probably start from here on. I used shopblt.com this time because tigerdirect has went down the tubes. 15 years ago it was great..no idea what happened
@MARTINREN12314 жыл бұрын
literally, you cant buy it anywhere in my country lol. ive seen someone sell them . its just that they literally get sold out 10 minutes when they pop in. But here's the thing, 3500x still exist here in my region and they sell for like $130 usd so there's this confusion lol
@Zarcondeegrissom4 жыл бұрын
so, to keep the i3-10100 from stepping on the 7700k's toes, intel gimped it with lowe clocks, no boost, and maybe a platform that caps its memory to 2666. the result, the cpu performs worse than the 3300x that costs the same. that's product segmentation. lol. Great vid Steve and Crew.
@Peterowsky4 жыл бұрын
It only costs the same now because it's basically out of stock, Ryzen CPUs (the 1600AF in the US notwithstanding because vendors there love price gouging people for even toilet paper) drop in price, while Intel... Doesn't
@givemeajackson4 жыл бұрын
Intel doesn't sell the 7700K anymore, they don't care if it gets wrecked by an i3. The real issue is between the 10400 and the 10600K, which are the same cpu separated by more than 100 bucks and an unlocked multiplier. It screws the entire product stack below it, cause an unlocked 10100 would be right up there with the 10400 in gaming results
@keset33163 жыл бұрын
3300x is cheaper $2
@ads27113 жыл бұрын
in my country the 10100f is 95$ the 3100 is 120-130$ and the ryzen 3 3300x is 150-160$
@ro_59073 жыл бұрын
@@ads2711 same... was choosing between a ryzen and intel 10th gen.... But intel was just cheaper here in my place too
@tarfeef_42684 жыл бұрын
If AMD releases Zen 2 APUs, the locked Intel CPUs (at least until the max core count AMD comes out with) are so done
@mohdfaizal67734 жыл бұрын
Dats real good, as market options are good for us. Now I'm waiting for the embedded itx products
@Tc4ify4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, 10100 or 10400 are still the way to go if you want a powerfull small form factor rig without a separate gpu.
@fleurdewin79584 жыл бұрын
Well, the 4700G (8C/16T) , 4400G (6C/12T) and 4200G (4C/8T) are coming real soon . It is the same silicon in the mobile Zen 2 , just adapted to AM4 socket use.
@amariam44544 жыл бұрын
@@fleurdewin7958 Dangg.... your comment litterally shut-up entire comment XD
@tarfeef_42684 жыл бұрын
@@amariam4454 I mean, there wasn't any argument to shut up, but okay.
@jinx37094 жыл бұрын
I made up my mind, just waiting for B550M to land, coupled with R3 3300X, it'll be damn good entry level PC. Thanks.
@lepari99864 жыл бұрын
I bought the 3300x two days ago, amazing cpu if you mostly game.
@Joker-no1fz4 жыл бұрын
get 5600xt with it imo.
@jinx37094 жыл бұрын
@@Joker-no1fz I already have a 2 years old RX580😁
@mardolero4 жыл бұрын
@@jinx3709 best card right now, just brought month ago used 580 to just wait till 2021 and then replace it with next gen gpu. Anything more just gives so little power to value to justify paying more
@zangetsu66384 жыл бұрын
and now the prices of the ryzen 3 are over $200 in the usa :(
@ChargePositive3 жыл бұрын
bought this for a server and did not want to mess around with a gpu. The high clock speeds and 8 threads are a beast for what I am using it for and I am very happy with it
@junk12312313 жыл бұрын
Got one for $89.99 today (Prime day sale + $10 coupon from AMEX). Definitely worth it at this price since I have never seen a 3300X in stock
@TheNiteNinja194 жыл бұрын
Thanks to AMD for lighting the fire underneath the ass of CPU manufacturers. We would probably still be running modified i7 7700K's to this day.
@LMBC6Brian4 жыл бұрын
Im still actually running a 5ghz 7700k with a 2080 Super, and there is not a CPU at any price that can give me more FPS at the 4k resolution I game at.
@accelerator55244 жыл бұрын
@@LMBC6Brian at 4k you should consider a faster gpu
@accelerator55244 жыл бұрын
@Yitzy i dont know why i wrote that xD
@drizztcat14 жыл бұрын
There's no way Intel releases a K version of these parts at the same price as the non-K parts. A little bit of overclocking, and their cheap i3's are matching more expensive parts and they're cannibalizing their own market.
@leafbelly4 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone release something that performs better at the same price? It's not just Intel. It's how markets work.
@mikethespike0563 жыл бұрын
I remember how Steve Jobs said it didn't matter if a company cannibalized itself. Good guy.
@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi40653 жыл бұрын
Now, in my country, the i3 10100f without the igpu is cheaper than the 3100 from amd, so the i3 is a pretty good deal
@mikethespike0563 жыл бұрын
3300X sells for $300 here.
@Centbair4 жыл бұрын
Ah, the Intel i3-20
@wisdoom91534 жыл бұрын
I'm laughing at intel used cpu market right now. Must be suck for those seller.
@main_tak_becus66894 жыл бұрын
But these intel cpus STP are higher than AMD in the same bracket. I'm waiting for 3300X performance on emulation, pretty dissatisfied with my R5 2600 performance on PCSX2
@budiisnadi4 жыл бұрын
I found someone selling 4670k with a mobo for just $80 and it's already a hard sale.
@alistairblaire60014 жыл бұрын
People are still paying $200+ for older 4C/8T i7 CPUs on ebay..I think it's because it's still cheaper than buying new motherboard and potentially new ddr4 ram if you already own a z97 board or something. But a well kept secret is that old Xeons are significantly cheaper and can be a good value
@Leowulfs4 жыл бұрын
You shouldn’t. Nothing against people that use Intel but there are genuine retards that think it’s the only thing they can buy. I’ve seen people paying for $170-200 for 7700k’s on Reddit and eBay. They’re brain dead.
@SphyxGreifing4 жыл бұрын
Just sold my i5 6400 for $100 and immediately bought r3 3300X for 120$
@LukasLiwandouw4 жыл бұрын
And spend 150$ for the Z490... yikes
@shadow_force3 жыл бұрын
10100f is now cheaper then the 3100 in eu, making it the new budget king (unless u want faster ram and a futureproof motherboard)
@TheOliveboy933 жыл бұрын
What is this future proof word even?
@GamerBoy705_yt3 жыл бұрын
Future proof..
@MatthewLabarbera4 жыл бұрын
man, i really need to upgrade my i7 3770 from 8 and a half years ago lol
@trash35704 жыл бұрын
ill take it lol, just got a 3570k and mobo for free
@crispianchealuks20244 жыл бұрын
with an oem rx 580 4gb and 16gb 1600mhz ram (dual channel), your cpu should have close to the performance in most games to an i3-10100, at 1080p medium
@Corei144 жыл бұрын
Nah wait for actual competition next year unless you upgraded you from 1080p, have high refresh or could use it for other workstation tasks
@DualPerformance4 жыл бұрын
with that rx 580 will be unnoticeable the difference with an I3 10100 vs 3770, but I have a 1660 Ti with an I7 3770 4.1 ghz, and I can see the bottleneck in some games, in wot at max settings with vsync off, the gpu usage is around 85%, with an average around 140 fps, in fornite I also have a CPU bottleneck, with an average of 120 - 140 fps, it should go past 200 at low settings and it not happening, the good thing is that all games still run at solid 60 fps vsync on at maximun settings, the bottleneck is only in the case of a very high fps
@deshan794 жыл бұрын
I'm still using i5 2500k
@zacbaker34804 жыл бұрын
In NZ we have B/H motherboards for LGA 1200 available now
@GamersNexus4 жыл бұрын
Yep, you're right. We can get them here now as well. They were still listed as having a future date when we filmed this video, but looks like most retailers have them in the US now.
@zacbaker34804 жыл бұрын
Gamers Nexus oh yes makes sense. Thought we might have got something first for once, but at least we got rid of something (human malware) pretty quick. Hopefully everyone else is staying safe out there!
@mohdfaizal67734 жыл бұрын
Which board did you⛏️ pick up? 🙄😋👍
@LS-oh8kv4 жыл бұрын
Is this a late post for Sunday or an early post for Monday? I was getting used to the 230 am uploads lol
@TheEternalDreamers4 жыл бұрын
“I’m going to go to sleep now” has to be one of my favorite video sign offs
@R3dFiv3.4 жыл бұрын
I also enjoyed the occasional blooper / skit like comment that Steve would make, got cut out, but include at the very end. Almost like an easter egg type thing. I have not seen that for a very long while now.
@TunaDad2 жыл бұрын
just picked this up for 90 bucks with a b560, insane value!
@caboroth4 жыл бұрын
I knew the conclusion before I clicked play, and I watched it anyway. Is it safe to call this cpu DOA?
@MiGujack34 жыл бұрын
For us, yes. For people wanting a basic PC, it's an OK cpu.
@haukionkannel4 жыл бұрын
We just wait price cuts... but no need. This will sell more than 3300x and 3100 together...
@Sir_punchwood4 жыл бұрын
It will be a great improvement for people buying little dell and HP office units if the crappy little oem coolers can keep the temps in check. People will be getting old i7 like performance for a third or the price. And in 3-6 years people will be selling them and the used market place will make them into used gaming rigs and the cycle will continue. It's nice to see the markets work so well
@kelvinyonger88854 жыл бұрын
@@MiGujack3 But the athlons and low end ryzen are cheaper.
@kelvinyonger88854 жыл бұрын
@@haukionkannel Why?
@FreddyBoyBoy4 жыл бұрын
I love these type of videos comparing "old" vs new. Really helpful to see if it's worth upgrading now or wait another gen
@jackb43 жыл бұрын
3300x is impossible to find rn so that could be a reason to buy it Also they are 120$ now
@gianluke4 жыл бұрын
The conclusions in these reviews are completely wrong after some weeks their publication because of price changes. For example, the price of the 3300X increased to a point where it is a quite bad deal. In Italy, it costs 10€ less than the 3600, would you buy it? The i3 10100 costs ~150€ which is, in my opinion, a quite good deal, compared for example to the 3400G (~150€). For less than the price of a 3600, you can get an i5 10400F. I don't see much convenience in buying AMD anymore. Many of the budget-wise advantages AMD had in the past have gone. For example, AMD motherboard are now as expensive as Intel's ones, if not more. As of July, B550s have ridiculous (expected) prices for being budget boards (above 120€). B450s prices (for ATX) are also all above 100€; they were around ~80-90€ some months ago.
@makoto43414 жыл бұрын
I have to agree, YMMV depending on where you are (i'm in south america), but i'm building a new pc and after reserving a b550m board (asus tuf wifi) i ended up requesting an exchange for a z490 (msi gaming edge wifi). Turns out that when i did the full math i could get an i5 10400f with the z490 mobo and 8gb ram for the price of a r5 3600 and b550m mobo. The motherboards where about the same, but the cpu was a lot cheaper and i was definitely surprised, always assumed it was cheaper to build an AMD rig.
@chadrussell59033 жыл бұрын
That's because Intel will always be the kings of gaming. Clock for clock, intel just outperforms amd chips, and people who defend them are the same fools that get knuckled into buying radeon graphics cards every new generation. You get what you pay for.
@mikethespike0563 жыл бұрын
In Chile everyone bought AMD and the prices skyrocketed. The 3100 costs more than the i3-10100, that's not even the F version!
@GamerBoy705_yt3 жыл бұрын
@@makoto4341 That's why you do research before you purchase something based on a trend.
@tjstechub2 жыл бұрын
You can run the i3 10100f with 32000mhz memory on some B560 boards. Just an FYI for anyone that’s looking into this cpu
@rickywidayana25923 жыл бұрын
The price of 3300X is almost twice the I3 10100F's, and 3100 also priced $18-20 more expensive than I3 in my country. Ryzen is hugely popular here but stock is limited so the price is crazy. So buying I3 10100F is the best choice, maybe before Ryzen 3 5100 is sold here.
@12100F2 жыл бұрын
*sighs* remember when we thought there would be a 5100?
@XerxezsX3 жыл бұрын
The 10100F is $69.99 at microcenter 😂 I'll just pair it with my 1060(bought it new on special for $169.99 Black Friday years ago) and I can play all the competitive games just fine, coming from an i5-2300😔 from 2012 $183. The i5 2300 plays games like WoW classic well over 100fps 1080p, HoTS too, etc, but It's showing it's age😂 time to upgrade 😂. I can't justify spending $300 on a 5600x + $100 on a good CPU cooler, makes no sense. Already have 500w 80+ bronze PSU, HAF 912 case, Crucial mx500 SSD, GTX 1060. If I get the 10100F $69.99 + $60 RAM, $70 Intel motherboard ($20 off at microcenter), total $200+ tax😂😂😂 At 1080P it will play most of the competitive games at well over 100fps at 1080p, that's all I need.
@BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele4 жыл бұрын
It's incredible to see that even when Intel has some decent products, then they completely damage their appeal, with absurd platform constraints.
@anoniem95184 жыл бұрын
Before I even clicked this video, I knew AMD would be marketed by this channel as the best option.
@octapc4 жыл бұрын
@10:45 You can't give credit to Intel dropping the i3 prices when it was forced to. Credit is given for something you do because you want to.
@GamersNexus4 жыл бұрын
People don't want to apologize for mistakes and often don't have to, but they get credit for doing it. Your statement doesn't hold up.
@octapc4 жыл бұрын
@@GamersNexus There was no mistake in Intel price gouging through market control.
@Simon-gc6uf4 жыл бұрын
@@GamersNexus His statement holds up quite well actually.
@saashaa514 жыл бұрын
So does AMD, AMD is forced to do aggressive pricing due smaller market share.
@GamerBoy705_yt3 жыл бұрын
@@saashaa51 Yes.
@misterringer4 жыл бұрын
The intel IGP's support 4k HDR. I don't believe the AMD APU's support it. This may be the ONLY use case that makes sense assuming your mobo has DP 1.4 or HDMI 2.0 or higher. An ITX media center. Beyond that, this CPU is trash.
@MiGujack34 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's also important to consider the nerfed TDP (T) parts. Great for a super basic 24/7 server or HTPC.
@Sir_punchwood4 жыл бұрын
@@MiGujack3 yeah, enough threads to multi task well and heat management shouldn't be too bad. They will be good media center and office work chips, that's about it though at the price
@amariam44544 жыл бұрын
yeah it's strange, RX 480 can do that both are same GCN RX480 (GCN 4.0), Vega 8 (GCN 5.0). could we ask to AMD ?
@claritoresdiano10214 жыл бұрын
forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/ryzen-3200g-does-it-do-hdr.18860325/ How about that ? can it answer your question ?
@OrbitalSP23 жыл бұрын
The 3300x is out of stock everywhere!
@345rvv3 жыл бұрын
And need a GPU card. Not fair compare 3300x with the i3 10100, for a good non-gaming pc is better choice intel. The ryzen 3 3200G, is inferior to i3 10100
@Warhammerdude2993 жыл бұрын
I'm helping put together a new computer for home use. This is purely an office computer, it is not a gaming rig. I originally had an r5 3400g for the APU, but then came across this chip. It delivers exactly what we want for a fair bit cheaper. It's great that the new AMD chips are where they're at, but we're not buying a graphics card. Great video!
@neutruistv16664 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you compared these because I haven’t seen many comparisons on old vs new
@A_z_z_y4 жыл бұрын
Please, please! Fix the Y-axis units on your frequency graphs. My eyes are bleeding looking at 3710 or 4240 MHz lines. Do not use always fixed 10 sections (11 numbers) on Y-axis graphs - make minor units multiple by 100 or 50 and vary number of sections !!!
@twoc400s54 жыл бұрын
Looking at all the benchmarks, I'm pretty sure my i7-4770k with delid and 4.4ghz OC and 16gb of 2133Mhz DDR3 will STILL be better than the i3-10100. Ima keep my money.
@bleem29514 жыл бұрын
Why do you need a delid to get 4.4 GHz on a 4770k? Mine did that on air...
@megarafjogos4 жыл бұрын
Also on the 4770k. Mine is delid, with arctic mx-4, waterblock sitting on the die. 4.8Ghz@1.47V, never goes over 60ºC on a 360mm rad. Performance is similar to my friends 3900x in games, both overclocked/watercooled and rocking the same rtx 2070 version. Also, don't forget they are playing on medium, in max settings even a 3770k can handle a 2080ti...
@ArthurM18634 жыл бұрын
@@bleem2951 4770k's are pretty bad overclockers
@amariam44544 жыл бұрын
@@CallMePaine how much your maks cpu temperature ?
@CallMePaine4 жыл бұрын
@@amariam4454 67C tops!! I'm at 4.3Ghz Vcore 1.32V. it's delidded and liquid metal.
@zeus11173 жыл бұрын
This CPU is now only 99$. Really good!
@realgenuinemakour4 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for this, just as in-depth as always. Good job guys
@czbrat4 жыл бұрын
Steve, I think when reddit comments say ryzen is smoother they mean ryzen 5 being smoother than old i5's which didn't have hyperthreading (like 7600k vs r5 1600). But if someone says ryzen in general is smoother then yeah they're idiots.
@daweitao26684 жыл бұрын
Agreed, Steve says this every review video it seems but I haven't seen anyone say or write it for a long time, as you say it is primarily from the 1600 vs 4 core i5 days.
@Cristian_Sile3 жыл бұрын
ryzen 5000 series are smoother in every single aspect
@KaloyanBratoev3 жыл бұрын
There is a new budge CPU release from intel i3-10100f, would you have it for reviewed ? Looks like decent for low end and it should fight against 3100 or 3300X
@frankdolores61993 жыл бұрын
I3-10100f = $80 R3100 = $120 In my country
@btmedic043 жыл бұрын
This cpu is now down to $99 and makes much more sense there. My dad desperately needed an upgrade from a core 2 duo e8400 based system and didn't need a dedicated gpu. This basically left me with the choice of the i3 10100 or a ryzen 3 3200g at the price point I was targeting. Paired it with a gigabyte b460m aorus pro, 16gb (2x8gb) crucial ddr4 2666 and a 500gb western digital sn750. My dad is more than impressed by it and calls it his super computer lol
@claritoresdiano10213 жыл бұрын
Dad : "Proud of my son."
@GamerBoy705_yt3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@ncg82243 жыл бұрын
This is what competition gives you guys. I wish there was this much competition 10 years ago!
@aussieb54024 жыл бұрын
I come for the intro, 1 chart, and the conclusion.
@mattevans16434 жыл бұрын
"It's pretty fast ram, it 26six 2666mhz" It'll definitely hold up for Battlefield 5.
@santiagoferrari19734 жыл бұрын
Verge ? Are u antisemitic?
@mattevans16434 жыл бұрын
What does quoting the Verge on a PC build have to do with hating Jews?
@MrHeatgap4 жыл бұрын
Man am I glad GN exists. I value your opinion over anyone else in the reviewer scene ( you always rely on the facts to form an educated opinion.) Thanks for the time and effort you put into this channel man!
@lepari99864 жыл бұрын
You like Tech deals as well?
@mpjones274 жыл бұрын
this is why I bought the 3300x day 1 for the build I'm doing for a friend. knew it would be gone for a while
@gohanmoka4 жыл бұрын
I'm currently living in Taiwan and they have a ton of 3300x's lol. I just picked up a Msi b450m mortar max and 3300x for around 180$
@madtech51534 жыл бұрын
gohanmoka z wow cheap with HQ motherboard
@sophiethemasochisticninja76554 жыл бұрын
In Denmark, that combo would be closer to 250$. And that is getting it cheap.
@chillhour61554 жыл бұрын
can you send me one of those cpu's ?, I'll pay for the shipping
@sophiethemasochisticninja76554 жыл бұрын
@Netluxe TV those arent because of out of stock those are normal prices in denmark
@gohanmoka4 жыл бұрын
when i bought it the guy was like hold on. It took a little while and I was like crap they are out of stock. He came walking up holding like 20 of them to restock the shelf lol.
@bwedges2 жыл бұрын
Just ordered 10105f to replace my old 300$ i7 6700. Thats not even with a z170 board which costs me 200 dollars to get a mere max 2666mhz C15 ram speed. Its bundled with b560m aorus elite for a total of 240$ bucks so i can both upgrade to 11th gen i7-i9 CPUs when 12th gen is out, and ram overclocking support. My PC will now have more life thanks to this. I checked on intel website and the only difference is the extra 2mb cache on the old i7. Basically i7 6700 3.7ghz@ 2133mhz ddr4 To i3 10105f 4.0ghz @3200mhz ddr4
@syrrysaver27753 жыл бұрын
Plex transcodes use the iGPU for QVS which makes these feature sets start to look compelling for home server/htpc applications. And at current price points on older hardware...
@casperes09124 жыл бұрын
Gamer’s Nexus... The 4am show for me. You always upload at 4am... Then again, I only know that cause I’m always awake at 4am, so I guess swingers and roundabouts
@lourencoalmada13054 жыл бұрын
Yup... it's 3 AM, I have an exam at 10 AM and here I am watching benchmarks
@mohdfaizal67734 жыл бұрын
Nice, now to Live TV. And see the protests madness
@casperes09124 жыл бұрын
Lourenco Almada Good luck on your exam, pal
@catriona_drummond4 жыл бұрын
I hope they launch a 10350K - that might be an interesting chip.
@varun24404 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how this channel has only 850k subscribers. Like Howwwwww?? I have been watching this man for four years now
@tacticalcenter86584 жыл бұрын
10900 is the 10th generation of the 900 series. 9900 is the ninth generation of the 900 series and so on. 8700 is the 8th gen of the 700 series. Each series has variations, i7-10750H, i7-10710U Then there is the is the processor families core-x, i9, i7, i5, i3 etc... Then there is the sque code, ie K, T, H, U, Y, etc. The naming works on paper, especially if you have a table explaining the different features of each designation. When we actually saying the 10th Gen model names out loud it sounds fairly stupid and harder to remember. Unfortunately It's not like its drastically different cpu architecture to re design a whole new naming scheme.
@troyn144 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile the 3600 is 159 euros in the eu making every and any intel part irrelevant :D
@mattevans16434 жыл бұрын
In the states i saw it for as low as 140usd. So yeah, intel need to figure some shit out.
@usoppbarbosa9814 жыл бұрын
If in stock :) I haven't seen it available in any online retailer here for the past 2 months. Only today did i find one at 211€. But if you can find it at MSRP yea it's a no brainer.
@Four-sc6gj4 жыл бұрын
Haven’t watched yet, lemme guess, Intel still suckin’ for the price, just not quite as hard.
@TR.Pixels4 жыл бұрын
Pretty much.
@v1asec4 жыл бұрын
So basically the conclusion of your test is pretty consistent with what I expected this CPU to be good for - office PCs with no dGPU. Still rather expensive for that use, considering a dual-core would mostly do the trick, but at least it's cheaper than Ryzen 5 3400G / 2400G and probably leads in the CPU performance.
@Caedin84 жыл бұрын
Hi! I bought an intel 10100 for a new rig for my parents. I needed the iGPU as they don't need a dedicated graphics card. They turn over a home PC about every 8 years so I felt like the 4 core, 8 threads was worth splurging for over an Athlon 3000g or other budget CPU. Lastly, they didn't want to migrate their existing home PC to a new hard disk, so grabbing a 16GB Intel optane drive for $20 and keeping the existing HDD was the easiest/cheapest solution to bring SSD level performance to their windows OS and frequent applications. I got the processor for $122 on Amazon when it launched and a B460 board for $80. Even though many reviewers have talked about there not being a place for the 10100, for me I think it was perfect. 3100 was a tough contender if I could have got it at $99, but they weren't available.
@GOONMOTORSPORT4 жыл бұрын
7700k still impressive, I keep mine until Intel come with 7nm cpu ...
@Mikel021274 жыл бұрын
See you in 10 years!
@arifazhari75984 жыл бұрын
I personally consider upgrading when my pc barely running modern games on medium setting. I guess it's a 6 - 8 year interval.
@ArthurM18634 жыл бұрын
Same partner
@rapasco81844 жыл бұрын
Seems like the 3300x is still the best option in this price class. Such a beast
@345rvv3 жыл бұрын
Yea and need a GPU, and the mobos with chipsets to ryzen 3000 are more expensive than chipsets intel 10th generation. Not a fair comparisson. For a good non gaming pc, i3 10100 is much better (in performance/cost)
@Pixelplanet53 жыл бұрын
thanks for doing these great reviews, personally i will be buying a 10100 for my NAS so i have the option to also use the NAS as a media PC at the same time. i initially considered a 3200g but i also wanna run a VM here and there so having the extra CPU power will come in handy as well as having 8 logical cores will not hurt.
@dokmetasonur2 жыл бұрын
I will do the same nas and media pc thing. Why did you choose 10100 over 3300x? They should consume almost same power.
@Pixelplanet52 жыл бұрын
@@dokmetasonur the intel CPU supports quicksync and i wanted to be able to do hardware transcoding on the iGPU so there is no other option then an intel CPU.
@JigsawCrisis3 жыл бұрын
@GamersNexus -- I ended up getting this part this year because of the GPU shortages. I have a family member that wants to edit pictures and some go pro footage on a budget. They also wanted a high resolution monitor to "see all the details" and have good color accuracy. This use case was almost... Monitor first and foremost... This CPU in a Mini-ATX board will make a great starter PC for them. Ended up spending just over 1000 USD for the whole system. Monitor of choice was the AOC CQ27G2 27" 2K monitor, and the onboard graphics will cover the pixels I they need. Also, the very favorable color accuracy showing in its rtings.com review was a great selling point. They will have 1TB of SSD, and 2TB on a HDD. A decent B460 board to get the started. And a decent cooler to one day make the leap to a better chip if desired. All said and done, they will have a great starter rig in a compact chassis, and room to get an actual Graphics card if they need it. That's why I chose the 10100.... I also could not find a AMD 3200G anywhere!
@bluebandit55864 жыл бұрын
AMD made a $120 cpu outperform intels top dog from 2017 Proud of my fellow engineers at AMD Wonder if Linus still wants to kiss intels toes
@jeffreypaul94284 жыл бұрын
If you were getting that fat check from Intel like Linus is, you would too.
@mohdfaizal67734 жыл бұрын
Lols.💐😆 Dizz😋👍😅
@wysetech20004 жыл бұрын
Blue Bandit Yeah, you should be proud of a 2020 CPU beats a 2017 CPU. Makes sense!
@GamerBoy705_yt2 жыл бұрын
Now, September 2021, 10100(F)/10105(F) are the best value in the low end budget segment. You can pair it with a B560 board for around $100 instead of a Z490 board too, for memory overclocking support without spending much. These chips are underrated and no one has yet reviewed 10100F with a B560 board which have become pretty cheap these days. LTT didn't even review these chips, what do I expect from a shill?
@xtlm2 жыл бұрын
I just bought the 10105 non f for 90 bucks (Missed out on an open box for 71 by just a smidge lol). It's going a budget build for the parents, I don't see a problem with it.
@keithgoh1233 жыл бұрын
i3 10100? Not so great. i3 10100F? Oh baby this is the new budget king.
@jakobe_bryantgaming55803 жыл бұрын
btw turning off cpu spread spectrum in the bios gives you the advertised boost speeds. When its on it might be off around 20-30 MHz
@purplegill104 жыл бұрын
As a guy currently looking into getting the 9100F, there is a potentially ultra-specific use case I can think of: Low wattage single threaded performance. Right now I have the very odd problem of having a power limit from what I can take from the wall so I only have about 250 watts MAX I can get with all my parts. Moreover, I run PCSX2 emulation a lot which is almost entirely bound by your single threaded performance numbers. Without buying an entirely new system, the x100 parts from intel fill an interesting gap where I can use some of my old parts and still have an upgrade compared to my old cpu. In almost any other use case (gaming, streaming, video editing, rendering, etc) the intel pales in comparison to its competitors except specifically in PCSX2 where single threaded performance is more or less the only way you can get better frames. Given my cpu power budget, the only other processors out there that can come close are pentiums, MAYBE the 3100, and an athlon. In that specific case the 9100, and likely the 10100, absolutely blows those other ones out of the water even if it's a pretty hollow victory given the price.
@bothellkenmore4 жыл бұрын
I seem to remember Steve when 1st referencing this CPU called it "unfortunately named". I assumed he was referencing that 10-100 in the radio 10 code means going to the bathroom. 🚽
@aaronthomas61554 жыл бұрын
well.....I'm pretty sure it crapped itself.....
@VGDocs4 жыл бұрын
If Intel really wants to be marketable they'll name their next i3 the "Intel iCore i3 10th series 100 gen 10 model 10101"
@ShogoKawada1234 жыл бұрын
The i3-10100 actually wound up being a good choice for budget builds, since the Ryzen 3 3300X is completely irrelevant as you cannot actually buy it anywhere, and the Ryzen 3 3100 is slower with DDR4-3200 than the i3-10100 is with DDR4-2666, and not even meaningfully cheaper IRL (the 3100 goes for about $115 online, while the 10100 goes for about $125 online. BOTH cost $99.99 in-store at Micro Center, also).
@eiterpet3 жыл бұрын
You can get this thing here in Germany at the moment new at the big shops for around 90-100 EUR. And this is, in my opinion, the best ptf-ratio you can get for gaming at the moment. Would not recommend anything else to friends on tighter budgets.
@eiterpet3 жыл бұрын
@Jovica Jevtic you can still get a 3300x in Serbia? 😳 I was dumb enough to sell mine...
@SometimesPirate4 жыл бұрын
My 7700k feels older and older 😂 thanks Steve for the good review
@davidmeisinger55114 жыл бұрын
It's a but old lol but it shows how even the three year old 7700k still holds some water in 2020 and still performs quite well
@APhamx74 жыл бұрын
Hey. So I'm unfortunately one of the use cases that need to buy intel over amd for an igpu. When building streaming PCs for others, my friends wanted their system in very small form factor with no space for a pcie/dgpu. Intel quicksync is enough to stream 1080p60 and 4k through a usb 3.0 capture card and we bought a 9600k over the 2700 for that reason. The 9600k (although unfortunate not having threads) and at $150 was what fit the niche. AMD's APU unfortunately did not have enough power at 4c/8t (3400g) and leaves the user with no room for further upgrades if doing heavier streams. E.g. we can upgrade to a 9700/9900k down the line.
@andersjjensen4 жыл бұрын
The 4700G is right around the corner, so there would have been an upgrade path to 8c/16t and 8 Vega cores. But if the current offerings didn't have the grunt I see your point.
@djsnowpdx4 жыл бұрын
(After watching up to the ad spot) Wait a minute. At $140 it’s only $35 cheaper than the Ryzen 5 3600. At that price delta, why wouldn’t you get the 3600? It’s better at everything!
@lepari99864 жыл бұрын
3600 is a lot better at multithread performance and it has better "future proofing", but it certainly isn't better at everything. 3300x is cheaper and still outperforms 3600 in some (many) games and not all of us stream or edit videos. People who play old games or esports type of titles the 3300x is probably clearly better. And I needed an upgrade to the cpu but will most likely get zen3 quite soon after it's release, so saving 35$ is a good deal.
@Vsevolod37882 жыл бұрын
Now it's the best value you can get, at least here in Russia.
@neithealebor2 жыл бұрын
İ3 10100f amazing cpu for price performance. No heat, low power waste and beastly performance for price, it's giving same performance with i7 7700k, plus better and perfected technology. Thats really good intel cpu. Use it with 6600xt or 3060ti you will have beast machine.
@warrax1114 жыл бұрын
Seems for most i7 4C/8T users, way to go is to wait for B550, then go for 3300x, then next upgrade in 2-3 years, when games start to need 8cores, wait for DDR5 and next generation of zen architecture 6C/12T or 8C/16T.
@HayabusaPaul4 жыл бұрын
Wow! That Ryzen 3 3300X has sneaky good performance for the money
@Reyfox14 жыл бұрын
Steve, did you get the Intel memo?? Benchmarks should not be considered in buying a CPU....unless it's better than the AMD equivalent.
@bartoszm844 жыл бұрын
Which platform will eat less power in idle: i3 10100 with something like h410 itx or Ryzen 3100 on b450/b550 itx?. Not counting vga or drives.
@suhaskini61474 жыл бұрын
It would be ryzen
@brianv3ntura3 жыл бұрын
Well I just bought a prebuilt itx system(without gpu) with a z490 mobo, 32gb ram and 10100. Sure the 10100 is a complete waste in a z490, but I ended up saving about $150 vs piecing the system myself. I am coming from a b85 1271 v3 matx build, so I felt like buying the itx prebuild was a very good upgrade for future purposes. At best my new system would be more of a lateral move, but now I have a much better upgrade path once the 10th i5,i7 and i9 k processors get cheaper later on.
@CaptainScorpio243 жыл бұрын
thats how one shud olways built their system
@astealoth4 жыл бұрын
I hope they come out with an i3 10190K that's a 4c/8t unlocked CPU so we can role play high end gaming from 2012.
@nekojcovek84663 жыл бұрын
Amd screwed big time in the budget to mid-range region. You can get 10100f for 15$ less than the 3100, 3300x doesn't exist. There isn't a 200$ 5600 so now the 10400f is 25$ cheaper than the 3600 while performing equally. You let me down amd
@Michealxlr4 жыл бұрын
When did all this smoothness talk begin I wonder. That's only a conversation to be had with less than 8 threads.
@CPowell1334 жыл бұрын
Did I keep my i7 4790K long enough to see it basically become an i3?
@harurosech.48483 жыл бұрын
Found it at 80 euros(90 dollars). At this price it's good competition for the 1600AF, but if you consider the motherboard (B450M for example) the costs are similar enough that Overclocking and RAM frequency matter more..
@zososldier3 жыл бұрын
One thing I found kind of interesting about the 10100 is due to its comparability with a i7 7700, people that are running CPU intensive systems like home built security camera computers, the super cheap 10100 allows the building of a "recommended spec" 10-30 camera computer for almost half the cost when compared to 2-3 years ago. Back when the 7700 was current, you had to run around a $700-900 CPU/ mobo/ memory combo. With the 10100, b450, and 16gb ram it's only like $300 to run programs like blue iris. The 10100 also does better than the new ryzen 3100/3300 due to them not having intel quick sink.
@colinjava84474 жыл бұрын
I might still get the i3 10100 for a basic office pc that I have to build, for the stability and familiarity of intel. If I was building my own gaming pc, I think I would have to go with some Ryzen cpu, depending on what the costs/benchmarks are. EDIT, I need integrated graphics really, so that's another reason to go with the intel. There's the ryzen 5 3400G, but on cpu passmark thing its about equal with the i3 10100 or i3 10300 if I remember correctly.
@fajarn70524 жыл бұрын
Nice video Steve! One thing I wanna ask, and maybe a suggestion for a video (or is it already exist?). I own an R5 2400G and planning to upgrade soon, I'm considering the 3100, 3300X and 3600(as these are what my budget allows), or maybe the new upcoming Ryzen APU. Can you make a pure CPU capability comparison of Ryzen APUs, maybe after the release of the rumored new Ryzen APU, and include other Ryzen chips benchmark data too if you can, thanks!
@rolandolopez93813 жыл бұрын
The reason why the i3 10100 can be a viable option is international pricing. In my country, a 3100 is priced around 175$, while I can get the i3 for 150$ or the F version for 137$. And at that point, the 38$ gap isn't really worth it.