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Dear Intel, please stop artificially limiting memory speeds on your other chipsets. Regards, Everyone

Shouldn't we be listening to Intel's CEO and be focused less on benchmarks ;)

The time stamps make these videos so much better since I can get right where I want to for the video. Thank you for that extra effort 🙏👍

If as a community we were able to get 1600 AF the official product name, I'm convinced we can also get this called the i3-20

oh god are we already here, my 7700K getting compared to a i3

You know, the frame time charts almost seem like Intel purposely released this before the B&H boards so that they would not be tested at stock memory frequencies, but with 3200MHz🤔

Here in Japan the AMD CPUs are much more expensive. The i3-10105 can be had for 18,000 yen while the Ryzen 3300x goes for 38,000 yen. I guess demand for the AMD CPUs has pushed the price up. It has been that way for a few years now.

That 3300x just looks better every day.

The ram frequency limits on Intel's lower end boards really hurts the value proposition of their low end cpus

The 7700K still costs $350 new. I have wanted to upgrade my rig for years but the price just isn't right! I'm moving to Ryzen!

Why the hell did Intel knee-cap the cache on their CPU? Did they want their i7 6700 to remain relevant?

Theres one really awesome reason to buy the i3 10100: you cant find a Ryzen 3300X anywhere!

If we could go ahead and stop buying all the goddamn Ryzen 3 3300X's when they are restocked, that would be GREEEEEEEAT. /jealous

so, to keep the i3-10100 from stepping on the 7700k's toes, intel gimped it with lowe clocks, no boost, and maybe a platform that caps its memory to 2666. the result, the cpu performs worse than the 3300x that costs the same. that's product segmentation. lol. Great vid Steve and Crew.

If AMD releases Zen 2 APUs, the locked Intel CPUs (at least until the max core count AMD comes out with) are so done

I made up my mind, just waiting for B550M to land, coupled with R3 3300X, it'll be damn good entry level PC. Thanks.

bought this for a server and did not want to mess around with a gpu. The high clock speeds and 8 threads are a beast for what I am using it for and I am very happy with it

Got one for $89.99 today (Prime day sale + $10 coupon from AMEX). Definitely worth it at this price since I have never seen a 3300X in stock

Thanks to AMD for lighting the fire underneath the ass of CPU manufacturers. We would probably still be running modified i7 7700K's to this day.

There's no way Intel releases a K version of these parts at the same price as the non-K parts. A little bit of overclocking, and their cheap i3's are matching more expensive parts and they're cannibalizing their own market.

Now, in my country, the i3 10100f without the igpu is cheaper than the 3100 from amd, so the i3 is a pretty good deal

Ah, the Intel i3-20

I'm laughing at intel used cpu market right now. Must be suck for those seller.

And spend 150$ for the Z490... yikes

10100f is now cheaper then the 3100 in eu, making it the new budget king (unless u want faster ram and a futureproof motherboard)

man, i really need to upgrade my i7 3770 from 8 and a half years ago lol

In NZ we have B/H motherboards for LGA 1200 available now

Is this a late post for Sunday or an early post for Monday? I was getting used to the 230 am uploads lol

“I’m going to go to sleep now” has to be one of my favorite video sign offs

just picked this up for 90 bucks with a b560, insane value!

I knew the conclusion before I clicked play, and I watched it anyway. Is it safe to call this cpu DOA?

I love these type of videos comparing "old" vs new. Really helpful to see if it's worth upgrading now or wait another gen

3300x is impossible to find rn so that could be a reason to buy it Also they are 120$ now

The conclusions in these reviews are completely wrong after some weeks their publication because of price changes. For example, the price of the 3300X increased to a point where it is a quite bad deal. In Italy, it costs 10€ less than the 3600, would you buy it? The i3 10100 costs ~150€ which is, in my opinion, a quite good deal, compared for example to the 3400G (~150€). For less than the price of a 3600, you can get an i5 10400F. I don't see much convenience in buying AMD anymore. Many of the budget-wise advantages AMD had in the past have gone. For example, AMD motherboard are now as expensive as Intel's ones, if not more. As of July, B550s have ridiculous (expected) prices for being budget boards (above 120€). B450s prices (for ATX) are also all above 100€; they were around ~80-90€ some months ago.

You can run the i3 10100f with 32000mhz memory on some B560 boards. Just an FYI for anyone that’s looking into this cpu

The price of 3300X is almost twice the I3 10100F's, and 3100 also priced $18-20 more expensive than I3 in my country. Ryzen is hugely popular here but stock is limited so the price is crazy. So buying I3 10100F is the best choice, maybe before Ryzen 3 5100 is sold here.

The 10100F is $69.99 at microcenter 😂 I'll just pair it with my 1060(bought it new on special for $169.99 Black Friday years ago) and I can play all the competitive games just fine, coming from an i5-2300😔 from 2012 $183. The i5 2300 plays games like WoW classic well over 100fps 1080p, HoTS too, etc, but It's showing it's age😂 time to upgrade 😂. I can't justify spending $300 on a 5600x + $100 on a good CPU cooler, makes no sense. Already have 500w 80+ bronze PSU, HAF 912 case, Crucial mx500 SSD, GTX 1060. If I get the 10100F $69.99 + $60 RAM, $70 Intel motherboard ($20 off at microcenter), total $200+ tax😂😂😂 At 1080P it will play most of the competitive games at well over 100fps at 1080p, that's all I need.

It's incredible to see that even when Intel has some decent products, then they completely damage their appeal, with absurd platform constraints.

Before I even clicked this video, I knew AMD would be marketed by this channel as the best option.

@10:45 You can't give credit to Intel dropping the i3 prices when it was forced to. Credit is given for something you do because you want to.

The intel IGP's support 4k HDR. I don't believe the AMD APU's support it. This may be the ONLY use case that makes sense assuming your mobo has DP 1.4 or HDMI 2.0 or higher. An ITX media center. Beyond that, this CPU is trash.

The 3300x is out of stock everywhere!

I'm helping put together a new computer for home use. This is purely an office computer, it is not a gaming rig. I originally had an r5 3400g for the APU, but then came across this chip. It delivers exactly what we want for a fair bit cheaper. It's great that the new AMD chips are where they're at, but we're not buying a graphics card. Great video!

I’m glad you compared these because I haven’t seen many comparisons on old vs new

Please, please! Fix the Y-axis units on your frequency graphs. My eyes are bleeding looking at 3710 or 4240 MHz lines. Do not use always fixed 10 sections (11 numbers) on Y-axis graphs - make minor units multiple by 100 or 50 and vary number of sections !!!

Looking at all the benchmarks, I'm pretty sure my i7-4770k with delid and 4.4ghz OC and 16gb of 2133Mhz DDR3 will STILL be better than the i3-10100. Ima keep my money.

This CPU is now only 99$. Really good!

Was waiting for this, just as in-depth as always. Good job guys

Steve, I think when reddit comments say ryzen is smoother they mean ryzen 5 being smoother than old i5's which didn't have hyperthreading (like 7600k vs r5 1600). But if someone says ryzen in general is smoother then yeah they're idiots.

There is a new budge CPU release from intel i3-10100f, would you have it for reviewed ? Looks like decent for low end and it should fight against 3100 or 3300X

This cpu is now down to $99 and makes much more sense there. My dad desperately needed an upgrade from a core 2 duo e8400 based system and didn't need a dedicated gpu. This basically left me with the choice of the i3 10100 or a ryzen 3 3200g at the price point I was targeting. Paired it with a gigabyte b460m aorus pro, 16gb (2x8gb) crucial ddr4 2666 and a 500gb western digital sn750. My dad is more than impressed by it and calls it his super computer lol

This is what competition gives you guys. I wish there was this much competition 10 years ago!

I come for the intro, 1 chart, and the conclusion.

"It's pretty fast ram, it 26six 2666mhz" It'll definitely hold up for Battlefield 5.

Man am I glad GN exists. I value your opinion over anyone else in the reviewer scene ( you always rely on the facts to form an educated opinion.) Thanks for the time and effort you put into this channel man!

this is why I bought the 3300x day 1 for the build I'm doing for a friend. knew it would be gone for a while

I'm currently living in Taiwan and they have a ton of 3300x's lol. I just picked up a Msi b450m mortar max and 3300x for around 180$

Just ordered 10105f to replace my old 300$ i7 6700. Thats not even with a z170 board which costs me 200 dollars to get a mere max 2666mhz C15 ram speed. Its bundled with b560m aorus elite for a total of 240$ bucks so i can both upgrade to 11th gen i7-i9 CPUs when 12th gen is out, and ram overclocking support. My PC will now have more life thanks to this. I checked on intel website and the only difference is the extra 2mb cache on the old i7. Basically i7 6700 3.7ghz@ 2133mhz ddr4 To i3 10105f 4.0ghz @3200mhz ddr4

Plex transcodes use the iGPU for QVS which makes these feature sets start to look compelling for home server/htpc applications. And at current price points on older hardware...

Gamer’s Nexus... The 4am show for me. You always upload at 4am... Then again, I only know that cause I’m always awake at 4am, so I guess swingers and roundabouts

I hope they launch a 10350K - that might be an interesting chip.

I don't understand how this channel has only 850k subscribers. Like Howwwwww?? I have been watching this man for four years now

10900 is the 10th generation of the 900 series. 9900 is the ninth generation of the 900 series and so on. 8700 is the 8th gen of the 700 series. Each series has variations, i7-10750H, i7-10710U Then there is the is the processor families core-x, i9, i7, i5, i3 etc... Then there is the sque code, ie K, T, H, U, Y, etc. The naming works on paper, especially if you have a table explaining the different features of each designation. When we actually saying the 10th Gen model names out loud it sounds fairly stupid and harder to remember. Unfortunately It's not like its drastically different cpu architecture to re design a whole new naming scheme.

Meanwhile the 3600 is 159 euros in the eu making every and any intel part irrelevant :D

Haven’t watched yet, lemme guess, Intel still suckin’ for the price, just not quite as hard.

So basically the conclusion of your test is pretty consistent with what I expected this CPU to be good for - office PCs with no dGPU. Still rather expensive for that use, considering a dual-core would mostly do the trick, but at least it's cheaper than Ryzen 5 3400G / 2400G and probably leads in the CPU performance.

Hi! I bought an intel 10100 for a new rig for my parents. I needed the iGPU as they don't need a dedicated graphics card. They turn over a home PC about every 8 years so I felt like the 4 core, 8 threads was worth splurging for over an Athlon 3000g or other budget CPU. Lastly, they didn't want to migrate their existing home PC to a new hard disk, so grabbing a 16GB Intel optane drive for $20 and keeping the existing HDD was the easiest/cheapest solution to bring SSD level performance to their windows OS and frequent applications. I got the processor for $122 on Amazon when it launched and a B460 board for $80. Even though many reviewers have talked about there not being a place for the 10100, for me I think it was perfect. 3100 was a tough contender if I could have got it at $99, but they weren't available.

7700k still impressive, I keep mine until Intel come with 7nm cpu ...

Seems like the 3300x is still the best option in this price class. Such a beast

thanks for doing these great reviews, personally i will be buying a 10100 for my NAS so i have the option to also use the NAS as a media PC at the same time. i initially considered a 3200g but i also wanna run a VM here and there so having the extra CPU power will come in handy as well as having 8 logical cores will not hurt.

@GamersNexus -- I ended up getting this part this year because of the GPU shortages. I have a family member that wants to edit pictures and some go pro footage on a budget. They also wanted a high resolution monitor to "see all the details" and have good color accuracy. This use case was almost... Monitor first and foremost... This CPU in a Mini-ATX board will make a great starter PC for them. Ended up spending just over 1000 USD for the whole system. Monitor of choice was the AOC CQ27G2 27" 2K monitor, and the onboard graphics will cover the pixels I they need. Also, the very favorable color accuracy showing in its rtings.com review was a great selling point. They will have 1TB of SSD, and 2TB on a HDD. A decent B460 board to get the started. And a decent cooler to one day make the leap to a better chip if desired. All said and done, they will have a great starter rig in a compact chassis, and room to get an actual Graphics card if they need it. That's why I chose the 10100.... I also could not find a AMD 3200G anywhere!

AMD made a $120 cpu outperform intels top dog from 2017 Proud of my fellow engineers at AMD Wonder if Linus still wants to kiss intels toes

Now, September 2021, 10100(F)/10105(F) are the best value in the low end budget segment. You can pair it with a B560 board for around $100 instead of a Z490 board too, for memory overclocking support without spending much. These chips are underrated and no one has yet reviewed 10100F with a B560 board which have become pretty cheap these days. LTT didn't even review these chips, what do I expect from a shill?

i3 10100? Not so great. i3 10100F? Oh baby this is the new budget king.

btw turning off cpu spread spectrum in the bios gives you the advertised boost speeds. When its on it might be off around 20-30 MHz

As a guy currently looking into getting the 9100F, there is a potentially ultra-specific use case I can think of: Low wattage single threaded performance. Right now I have the very odd problem of having a power limit from what I can take from the wall so I only have about 250 watts MAX I can get with all my parts. Moreover, I run PCSX2 emulation a lot which is almost entirely bound by your single threaded performance numbers. Without buying an entirely new system, the x100 parts from intel fill an interesting gap where I can use some of my old parts and still have an upgrade compared to my old cpu. In almost any other use case (gaming, streaming, video editing, rendering, etc) the intel pales in comparison to its competitors except specifically in PCSX2 where single threaded performance is more or less the only way you can get better frames. Given my cpu power budget, the only other processors out there that can come close are pentiums, MAYBE the 3100, and an athlon. In that specific case the 9100, and likely the 10100, absolutely blows those other ones out of the water even if it's a pretty hollow victory given the price.

I seem to remember Steve when 1st referencing this CPU called it "unfortunately named". I assumed he was referencing that 10-100 in the radio 10 code means going to the bathroom. 🚽

If Intel really wants to be marketable they'll name their next i3 the "Intel iCore i3 10th series 100 gen 10 model 10101"

The i3-10100 actually wound up being a good choice for budget builds, since the Ryzen 3 3300X is completely irrelevant as you cannot actually buy it anywhere, and the Ryzen 3 3100 is slower with DDR4-3200 than the i3-10100 is with DDR4-2666, and not even meaningfully cheaper IRL (the 3100 goes for about $115 online, while the 10100 goes for about $125 online. BOTH cost $99.99 in-store at Micro Center, also).

You can get this thing here in Germany at the moment new at the big shops for around 90-100 EUR. And this is, in my opinion, the best ptf-ratio you can get for gaming at the moment. Would not recommend anything else to friends on tighter budgets.

My 7700k feels older and older 😂 thanks Steve for the good review

Hey. So I'm unfortunately one of the use cases that need to buy intel over amd for an igpu. When building streaming PCs for others, my friends wanted their system in very small form factor with no space for a pcie/dgpu. Intel quicksync is enough to stream 1080p60 and 4k through a usb 3.0 capture card and we bought a 9600k over the 2700 for that reason. The 9600k (although unfortunate not having threads) and at $150 was what fit the niche. AMD's APU unfortunately did not have enough power at 4c/8t (3400g) and leaves the user with no room for further upgrades if doing heavier streams. E.g. we can upgrade to a 9700/9900k down the line.

(After watching up to the ad spot) Wait a minute. At $140 it’s only $35 cheaper than the Ryzen 5 3600. At that price delta, why wouldn’t you get the 3600? It’s better at everything!

Now it's the best value you can get, at least here in Russia.

İ3 10100f amazing cpu for price performance. No heat, low power waste and beastly performance for price, it's giving same performance with i7 7700k, plus better and perfected technology. Thats really good intel cpu. Use it with 6600xt or 3060ti you will have beast machine.

Seems for most i7 4C/8T users, way to go is to wait for B550, then go for 3300x, then next upgrade in 2-3 years, when games start to need 8cores, wait for DDR5 and next generation of zen architecture 6C/12T or 8C/16T.

Wow! That Ryzen 3 3300X has sneaky good performance for the money

Steve, did you get the Intel memo?? Benchmarks should not be considered in buying a CPU....unless it's better than the AMD equivalent.

Which platform will eat less power in idle: i3 10100 with something like h410 itx or Ryzen 3100 on b450/b550 itx?. Not counting vga or drives.

Well I just bought a prebuilt itx system(without gpu) with a z490 mobo, 32gb ram and 10100. Sure the 10100 is a complete waste in a z490, but I ended up saving about $150 vs piecing the system myself. I am coming from a b85 1271 v3 matx build, so I felt like buying the itx prebuild was a very good upgrade for future purposes. At best my new system would be more of a lateral move, but now I have a much better upgrade path once the 10th i5,i7 and i9 k processors get cheaper later on.

I hope they come out with an i3 10190K that's a 4c/8t unlocked CPU so we can role play high end gaming from 2012.

Amd screwed big time in the budget to mid-range region. You can get 10100f for 15$ less than the 3100, 3300x doesn't exist. There isn't a 200$ 5600 so now the 10400f is 25$ cheaper than the 3600 while performing equally. You let me down amd

When did all this smoothness talk begin I wonder. That's only a conversation to be had with less than 8 threads.

Did I keep my i7 4790K long enough to see it basically become an i3?

Found it at 80 euros(90 dollars). At this price it's good competition for the 1600AF, but if you consider the motherboard (B450M for example) the costs are similar enough that Overclocking and RAM frequency matter more..

One thing I found kind of interesting about the 10100 is due to its comparability with a i7 7700, people that are running CPU intensive systems like home built security camera computers, the super cheap 10100 allows the building of a "recommended spec" 10-30 camera computer for almost half the cost when compared to 2-3 years ago. Back when the 7700 was current, you had to run around a $700-900 CPU/ mobo/ memory combo. With the 10100, b450, and 16gb ram it's only like $300 to run programs like blue iris. The 10100 also does better than the new ryzen 3100/3300 due to them not having intel quick sink.

I might still get the i3 10100 for a basic office pc that I have to build, for the stability and familiarity of intel. If I was building my own gaming pc, I think I would have to go with some Ryzen cpu, depending on what the costs/benchmarks are. EDIT, I need integrated graphics really, so that's another reason to go with the intel. There's the ryzen 5 3400G, but on cpu passmark thing its about equal with the i3 10100 or i3 10300 if I remember correctly.

Nice video Steve! One thing I wanna ask, and maybe a suggestion for a video (or is it already exist?). I own an R5 2400G and planning to upgrade soon, I'm considering the 3100, 3300X and 3600(as these are what my budget allows), or maybe the new upcoming Ryzen APU. Can you make a pure CPU capability comparison of Ryzen APUs, maybe after the release of the rumored new Ryzen APU, and include other Ryzen chips benchmark data too if you can, thanks!

The reason why the i3 10100 can be a viable option is international pricing. In my country, a 3100 is priced around 175$, while I can get the i3 for 150$ or the F version for 137$. And at that point, the 38$ gap isn't really worth it.