Intense Commander Battle w/ Jesper Ejsing & Ashlen Rose | Extra Turns 05

Intense Commander Battle w/ Jesper Ejsing & Ashlen Rose | Extra Turns 05 | Magic: The Gathering

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Show Notes:
Magic artist Jesper Ejsing (Tooth and Nail, Reliquary Tower) and Ashlen Rose sit down with Jimmy and Josh for a Commander showdown using their own homebrew decks.
It's Marchesa vs Greven vs Yuriko vs Thrasios & Tymna.
Who will come out on top? Watch and find out!
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Jesper Ejsing
www.jesperejsing.com
Get a copy of Jesper's artbook "Elsewhere"
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Ashlen Rose:
Twitter: @AshlenRose
Twitch: / ashlen_rose
Instagram: @RawrItsAshlen
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Ashlen's Yuriko:
www.archidekt.com/decks/46638...
Jimmy's Marchesa:
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Jesper's Thrasios & Tymna:
www.archidekt.com/decks/46638...
JLK's Greven:
www.archidekt.com/decks/46638...
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Edited by: Terry Robertson and Josh Murphy
Special FX and GFX: Terry Robertson
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Sound Mix: Jake Boss
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@J03Y42NA 3 жыл бұрын

Its not just that Jesper is a monster for playing a hatebear deck. He's a monster for having his Tropical Island upside-down for 90% of the game

@monkeygame7 3 жыл бұрын

He seemed to do that with all the OG duals. I wonder why (maybe it's just to tilt people lol)

@TheSpiritombsableye 3 жыл бұрын

@@monkeygame7, he was not attentive to if he rotated each land counterclockwise, or clockwise.

@nicholasbolas 3 жыл бұрын

I run some of my cards upside down for my opponents to read. It may not look nice for presentation but it can be very practical. Also means I don't have to say anything unnecessary. I can just point to the card and keep any secrets/bluffs/mysteries. As for the trop I guess it's nicer when it's facing the cam right side up LMAO

@ygaudreault 3 жыл бұрын

hatebears are great.

@isaiahneski6009 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah why is it fair he brings a high tier deck and everyone else has Jann pretty much

@aidennoir597 3 жыл бұрын

Jesper always sounds so pleasant and affable as he plays some of the most oppressive cards ever printed, lol.

@andrewsparkes8829 3 жыл бұрын

This is what a lot of people in my LGS are like - utterly kind, funny and overall brilliant people to know, but in a Magic game...yeah, that's another story!

@nonk4552 3 жыл бұрын

Well depending on the card his paying himself

@nicholasbolas 3 жыл бұрын

Haven't you watched enough dramas to note that the nicest guys are the villains lol

@geoffwilliams6072 3 жыл бұрын

I could not stand this guy

@TheBiddy100 3 жыл бұрын

It's like Serge from LoadingReadyRun

@sea81793 3 жыл бұрын

People at table: "I'll attempt to play..." Jesper: " You have my blessing."

@ben7887 Жыл бұрын

@2leftarms 3 жыл бұрын

Jesper seems like the sweetest man alive but also history’s greatest monster

@ferdithetank7535 3 жыл бұрын

Ironic. The most beatifull things ever witnessed are also the deadliest of their kind. Poisonous herbs, venomous snakes, explosion shockwaves..

@nicholasbolas 3 жыл бұрын

Nicest guys always play the villain mate.

@jamescouncillor7926 3 жыл бұрын

@@nicholasbolas lol no, the guy from England always plays the villain. It's something about the accent lol

@alecpogson7585 3 жыл бұрын

@James Councillor As a Brit this personally offends me

@7swordquanta459 2 жыл бұрын

After seeing the entire episode, I can't help but compare Jesper to Amaz. Jesper is the guy you want to kill by stabbing a sword/knife to the heart and relishing every minute of it. Amaz, on the other hand, is that guy you want to kill by shooting with a gun and just enjoy all of the blood and head organs flying around the room, with absolutely no remorse whatsoever. BTW, not trying to be mean or brutal. Just trying to compare the two in terms of salt-inducing villainy

@sprocketscribbler8359 3 жыл бұрын

Dude this guy drew THE colossal dreadmaw. We’re looking at a legend!

@DevouringKing 3 жыл бұрын

i like the "Bull Cerodon" & "Ghitu Lavarunner" & "Knight of the Tusk" & "Trynn, Champion of Freedom" drawing from him.

@coreysierchio4650 3 жыл бұрын

"All Hail the Dreadmaw!"

@crosshroomhead 3 жыл бұрын

@@DevouringKing sure but those aren't the god of meme cards :p

@Tacklepig 3 жыл бұрын

@@crosshroomhead that's still Storm Crow.

@siobhangraham7280 3 жыл бұрын

His art is really unfortunate. Has all this talent, and still falls into the trap of trying to draw every woman as being sexy. The boob-plate is just cringey to look at.

@JustforKikX 3 жыл бұрын

"He's playing a Thrasios and Tymna deck" Uh oh......I can already see how this is going to go.

@nicholasbolas 3 жыл бұрын

IKR. There was almost always a favorite the moment names were announced.

@emptygee5882 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@isaiahneski6009 3 жыл бұрын

I mean he literally just played a top tier deck.

@eric0967 3 жыл бұрын

@@isaiahneski6009 its not a top tier tymna deck it was high power. ashlyns extra turns yuriko deck might be more powerful. thats why he was focusing her down till josh started going off.

@isaiahneski6009 3 жыл бұрын

Eric09 lol I know it’s not optimized, but his deck is very strong. Much stronger than 2/3 decks at the table and the 3rd was not drawing well.

@nex5318 3 жыл бұрын

I like how Jesper just made a deck out of all the cards Jimmy and Josh hate. Gaddock Teeg, Grand Arbiter, and all of the things that make stuff expensive.

@leemiller6977 3 жыл бұрын

I've got a sweet Grand Arbiter commander deck myself. Ghostly Prison, Rhystic Study, Propaganda, Frozen Aether, Grand Abolisher and Maze of Ith are just some of the craziness I have in my Pillowfort deck.

@thomaswalters597 3 жыл бұрын

As soon as the commanders were announced I knew who was going to win. Also Josh, you made a bad play by not attacking Jesper at the end. You needed to force his removal. Instead you killed a player for him, then he used his removal on you anyways.

@oliviauzquiano7392 3 жыл бұрын

Strip mine letting gaea's cradle just exist is so painful... I know there was a deal to not destroy it but come on, it's gaea's cradle!

@deadso 3 жыл бұрын

It's the sole reason I bought Strip Mine back when

@FixerFour 3 жыл бұрын

@@deadso I mean.. wasteland is a thing too.

@paulmcclain642 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder if she forgot it was there? I know sometimes I forget about early cards I played on crowded boards. Then again I highly doubt all 3 players would forget it when cradle came out--to me that was the biggest misplay of the game.

@dustyfox6511 3 жыл бұрын

It's nearly impossible to find a Command Zone game not decided by misplays.

@ertai222 3 жыл бұрын

@@dustyfox6511 we all misplay. It's just a matter of who misplays the least.

@ClexYoshi 3 жыл бұрын

Man, if I were Ashlyn, I would have SO Strip mined that Gaea's Cradle.

@AdairCorbin 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah between that and Jimmy not using Hostage taker on the thorn it seems like Mr stax was scripted to win.

@shaydaio2094 3 жыл бұрын

Alex Buettnner if it were scripted they wouldn’t of even put stripmine on the field.

@casperkristensen1730 3 жыл бұрын

This is probably the right thing to do, but I think Jimmy and josh take into account if the guests are new or been there before. Jesper is a new guest and had travel from Denmark to be on the show. I really don't think it's scripted. They were just been nice

@AdairCorbin 3 жыл бұрын

@@shaydaio2094 good point, it's less likely to be 100% scripted and more likely to just be a thrown match.

@shaydaio2094 3 жыл бұрын

Casper Kristensen Yeah they’ve said before they don’t script at all. I.e Nerd girl getting mana screwed or reputable magic players coming on wouldn’t happen. However, they’ve also said that they are on game knights every show and sometimes will hold back. Also to be fair it was hatebears.

@DarkEinherjar 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone let Sisay, Thrasios and Cradle stick around... anyone surprised at the end result?

@chrispy6953 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely not. As soon as Jimmy hostaged that soul ring I knew what type of game this was.. Strip mine cradle? Among many other plays.

@MekanikKommandoh88 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah this was kind of painful to watch.

@buddatello 3 жыл бұрын

It definitely felt like they tried to not be mean cus he was like the new guy in the pod, but my man was straight up playing hate bears you gotta nip their engines in the butt

@chrispy6953 3 жыл бұрын

@@buddatello I only saw the first half of your reply on my notifications and was like "BUT HATEBEARS" and then I saw the rest after I loaded up 😂 Yeah idk, very mixed emotions on this episode. He painted their playmat, came over from Denmark and they just bent over and spread their cheeks for him on a casual EDH channel. Yikes.

@chrispy6953 3 жыл бұрын

@@MekanikKommandoh88 extremely. You could hear the "I'm over it" in Ashlyns voice

@themantyf1116 3 жыл бұрын

I was eager to see Jimmy's Marchesa deck in action, it's a pity it didn't get to do more. She was the only commander that didn't even get to be played.

@Dannerrrr Жыл бұрын

It was built waaaay too heavy. marchesa should be built with less than 3 average CMC to actually see action. Marchesa needs a ETB, sac outlet, and marchesa by turn 4 to really be happy.

@Vinyears80s 3 жыл бұрын

Great lesson learned. If someone has a Strip Mine, use it to destroy a Gaea's Craddle.

@OhNoTheFace 3 жыл бұрын

I mean that is basic stuff. I can only assume they did not want to "pick on" the guest. Which is stupid when it is cradle

@nicholasbolas 3 жыл бұрын

He was paid in Cradle. LOL

@willemboele2079 3 жыл бұрын

@@OhNoTheFace or ashlyn forgot she had it or she needed the mana

@eric0967 3 жыл бұрын

the tempo lost was to much. ashlen was playing extra turns yuriko she wants to win as fast as possible. and needed the mana. which they knew hence jimmy stealing the sol ring. really she just got unlucky on drawing the wrong side of her deck like josh said. josh has probably played against her deck before. she would have won if they didnt focus her down early game. and jesper stax stopped joshs early turns. if josh drew a necropotence he would have started one shotting people.

@eric0967 3 жыл бұрын

i think jimmy may have been out classed this game. dont know much about his deck.

@carlfjnon 3 жыл бұрын

“I might add, the wrong Bitterblossom“ hahah don’t know why that made me laugh more than I was expecting

@ferdithetank7535 3 жыл бұрын

This reminds me Unhinged card "Persecute Artist", but more polite.

@crosshroomhead 3 жыл бұрын

Was honestly thinking it as she played it, im glad he called her out lol

@B-Ran_the_Man 3 жыл бұрын

Kids, this is why you blow up a Gaea's Cradle as soon as possible. I present exhibit A

@paulmcclain642 3 жыл бұрын

Don't worry no one can afford it now anyway :(

@bobby45825 3 жыл бұрын

@@paulmcclain642 Who doesn't proxy Cradle? What absolute fools are paying $800 for 1 piece of cardboard? Jesus.

@SJamesGill88 3 жыл бұрын

@@bobby45825 Me?I bought a graded one for Rhys/Ghave/Any future green decks.People buy duals all the time and no one bats an eye.

@pugsrkewl 3 жыл бұрын

It’s crazy how it was obvious Jesper was in the lead but no one really did anything about it. Half way in you can tell what’s going to happen

@FreddieFevens 3 жыл бұрын

As soon as I heard T&T Stax, I knew it was over.

@freyalesca 3 жыл бұрын

@@FreddieFevens as soon as i see tymna and thrasios and he plays a thorn off the bat they should have been focusing him tbh

@user-po6kl5sz8r 3 жыл бұрын

It's kinda like this episode had flash. No one excepted it, and it has left us in suprise

@globinbloobin8573 3 жыл бұрын

I did not realize that Josh had an IRL Vandelken Orrery!!

@Link_T179 3 жыл бұрын

*Expected

@chibeees 3 жыл бұрын

Not that that’s a bad thing

@rowrow_ 3 жыл бұрын

No tactic transforms a battle like a well-timed Extra Turn video

@BloodyScythe666 3 жыл бұрын

surprised pikachu face

@MGone3 3 жыл бұрын

I like how Jimmy stole Ashlen's sol ring then has the nerve to say they need to get rid of the thorn

@nicholasbolas 3 жыл бұрын

And that's why Jimmy stayed a Timmy after all this years.

@DjinnofWinds 3 жыл бұрын

If he stole the thorn, the thorn's effect would still be on the board. So stealing it would have achieved nothing

@MGone3 3 жыл бұрын

@@DjinnofWinds has long as it was under hostage taker it have been exiled

@myztik5716 3 жыл бұрын

@@DjinnofWinds Reading the cards explains the cards

@eric0967 3 жыл бұрын

also having a yuriko deck dont let yuriko have more then 6 mana. damage, extra turn, damage, extra turn, win. is how her deck plays. its win fast and early.

@CHEFPKR 3 жыл бұрын

Glad to have extra turns to keep me company while in the editing dungeon

@BearGamerful 3 жыл бұрын

Yo anime chef

@dawsonhall7116 3 жыл бұрын

Big fan Chefpk

@TheHunter128 3 жыл бұрын

Wait you are here too???

@McGuffin5150 3 жыл бұрын

Does anyone else feel like Jesper was kind of ignored for a good chunk of the game? Sisay and Cradle were left alone for far too long in my opinion.

@nicholasbolas 3 жыл бұрын

@S V One is the guest and the other is your boss. Ofc those were the last 2. And yet they say the game's not scripted lol. Office politics for you.

@antoniopaolitto2181 3 жыл бұрын

gotta sale those playmats. ;)

@Keoruan 3 жыл бұрын

@S V And all the removal was pretty much used on Ashlen... Font, Hostage Taker... Hostage taker could have dealt with Sisay or the thorns, Font could have dealt with Glen Elendra or something.

@Tacklepig 3 жыл бұрын

@S V Josh was dealing massive damage to himself, which is probably why he was ignored

@Joshbobjovi 3 жыл бұрын

Makes no sense why Jimmy let Jesper untap before casting his cyclonic rift lol

@federicokina9998 3 жыл бұрын

"So Jesper, what's the theme of your deck?" "Basically I put everything that can piss off people, so the ulcers they develop can give me a tactical advantage"

@Fractalmortality 3 жыл бұрын

And then I feast on salt ftw

@ferdithetank7535 3 жыл бұрын

But... It's just a regular non-Consultation version of Tymna-Thrassios. cEDH stuff.

@federicokina9998 3 жыл бұрын

@@ferdithetank7535 still, this doesn't conflicts with my description

@antoniopaolitto2181 3 жыл бұрын

i totally agree.

@loganhoppe7234 3 жыл бұрын

@@ferdithetank7535 it's not though but sure. it's strong but its not cedh minus consult

@whatsupdoc6358 3 жыл бұрын

Two weird things, sol ring being taken and gradle not being destroyed.

@Fractalmortality 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe Jimmy was hurting for mana at the time? But yeah, there were some much higher value targets than Sol Ring imo. And I'm willing to bet Ashlen straight up forgot her Strip Mine was a Strip Mine and could Strip Mine things.... I've done this in the past.

@whatsupdoc6358 3 жыл бұрын

@@Fractalmortality I had wondered if maybe jimmy was just being nice and didnt want to take the thorn. One thing ive learned, you dont let stax have their toys haha

@Amarukseta1 3 жыл бұрын

also why didn't he play the sol ring the turn he played phyrexian arena?

@donaldsykes12 3 жыл бұрын

@@Amarukseta1 I believe it was because he only had one mana left and the sol ring cost one more because of the thorn. I was confused by that at first too.

@zachbechtel2101 3 жыл бұрын

@@whatsupdoc6358 taking the thorn wouldn't have done anything, the effect is universal.

@duesexistat5016 3 жыл бұрын

Ashlen got targeted hard. She was being cool about it but I was annoyed for her. Next time don’t be afraid to pick on the guest, especially when they’re playing stax. I’m sure Jesper’s deck was prepared to handle hate.

@drewhoffmaster2969 3 жыл бұрын

Looking at her deck, it's an extra turns deck. Letting her connect and chain extra turns is a good way to end up dead. Josh's deck is also more than capable of killing fast, if not necessarily capable of hitting the entire table. I'm not sure about Jimmy's deck, but looking at Jesper's deck it definitely seems unable to win quickly and instead plays like a reasonable toolbox hatebears deck. Jesper definitely was in for the long haul, so early game he's not really worth targetting. This match needed more boardwipes. Jesper kept the counter up for rift and Meddling Mage'd the Toxic Deluge. One more boardwipe would've screwed his position. Also, strip mining the Cradle, though I think Ashlen really needed the mana to land big spells so *shrug*

@Njzeo 3 жыл бұрын

It was obvious ashlen was taken aback with how often Jesper was targeting her.

@NuminorTheFool 3 жыл бұрын

Having a friend who plays Yuriko extra turn. You absolutely shut down the Yuriko first. That said Thasisa should not have been ignored either.

@rurouni4974 3 жыл бұрын

Ofc you target yuriko first. Yuriko is an aggro commander and if you let her attack often she will do tons of damage to everyone like the turn she did 8 damage to everyone. Their luck was she hasnt drawn another ninjas for more yuriko triggers. Let her live would mean that she could attack again and kill everyone. Because yuriko deals damage to everyone makes you everyone's target.

@jbs6614 3 жыл бұрын

That’s kind of a given when you’re playing Yuriko.

@nicholasstavash7880 3 жыл бұрын

Jimmy, Josh, and Ashlen: we built fun decks around some of our favorite commanders: Jesper: laughs in Tynma and Thrasios

@Reddgameplus 3 жыл бұрын

Partners is an obvi advantage, but Greven and the ninjitsu commander both go after skulls.

@tapsin3923 3 жыл бұрын

IMO ashlen has never done a "fun" deck, unless your concept of fun is no interaction spells whatsoever + eldrazi/plain fat creatures. Sure, tymna and thrasios hatebears is awful for many people but she didn't do anything to solve the situation just like in many games.

@oORoOFLOo 3 жыл бұрын

Ha, yeah, Yuriko is a "fun" deck. Fun deck that can win in 5th turn on casual table. I play Yuriko and each person says "she is op, she just dodges commander tax", I'm sure they wouldnt call it a "fun" a deck.

@jonatan-vn1441 3 жыл бұрын

“Surprise to be sure, but a welcome one”

@BROBI556 3 жыл бұрын

I like the idea of Jesper's deck, but part of me really wish he played his Sek'Kuar, Deathkeeper deck where every card art is one that he painted

@Deathkeeper43 3 жыл бұрын

Woah!!!!!!! Link!!!?

@BROBI556 3 жыл бұрын

@@Deathkeeper43 I think he talked about it when he was on the podcast. I think he just needed to be commissioned for a basic forest though

@nicholasrolo886 3 жыл бұрын

"I just hit you with tymna equipped with sword of feast and Famine. Sorry" This guy 😆

@acdvfb 3 жыл бұрын

Jesper seems so nice... The kind of guy to invite you over for a nice meal, and then he offers to show you something in his basement and you never return lol

@pug8714 8 ай бұрын

Bold to think you could leave

@iambensummers 3 жыл бұрын

I agree with some of the other people here, the threat assessment was way off. Not blowing up Cradle with Thrasios on board? Making deals not to attack the guy with the most value on board? All the decks were pretty powerful, but they let Jesper run away with the game.

@duesexistat5016 3 жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure it was the classic, be nice to the guest maneuver.

@nicholasbolas 3 жыл бұрын

I'm sure Jesper commanded a high price to fly down. That's how he acquired the Cradle LMAO.

@dustyfox6511 3 жыл бұрын

It's nearly impossible to find a Command Zone game not decided by misplays.

@khariperkins4243 3 жыл бұрын

I mean he was run stacks like come on man kill this dude.

@eric0967 3 жыл бұрын

threat assessment was fine. tymna stax was playing a long game. ashlyn's extra turns yuriko deck was the threat. and why jesper and josh focused on her. josh even commented she was drawing the wrong side of her deck. he has played against her deck before. jimmy may have been out classed this game. and the stax were keeping josh from winning early game with his insane start even with the thorn.

@MrJC1122 3 жыл бұрын

Jimmy should've cast cyclonic rift when Jesper was tapped out...

@Krisaber 3 жыл бұрын

exactly! at that point of time jasper would need the big 4 free counters to survive that

@JigsawJoe13 3 жыл бұрын

He was never gonna be tapped out...

@Krisaber 3 жыл бұрын

@@JigsawJoe13 35:30 respond to thrasio activation and rift?

@geoffreymullen3527 3 жыл бұрын

He had just enough mana to OL rift, if he let grand arbiter resolve first he couldn't have afforded to cast it because of the cost increase.

@paulcrisafi4415 3 жыл бұрын

Krisaber he had mana for Arcane Denial, so it wouldn’t have mattered. Good catch, tho.

@loganhoppe7234 3 жыл бұрын

Jesper having his lands in different directions is probably intentional as a way to upset people more haha

@mikotagayuna8494 3 жыл бұрын

An MtG artist playing MtG and having a great time is one of the greatest endorsements WotC can have.

@thetogtube2 3 жыл бұрын

"you got this Josh... nice josh... you got this dude... you're fine " - Jimmy (while Josh drowns)

@connorhanson253 3 жыл бұрын

im so so so happy to see someone playing Greven as their commander, i thought i was the only one who saw his crazy strength!

@ceulgai2817 3 жыл бұрын

If you go back to C19 spoiler season, they gush over his power.

@JigsawJoe13 3 жыл бұрын

Greven if built correctly is a very strong deck.

@connorhanson253 3 жыл бұрын

@@JigsawJoe13 it's interesting to see that his power buff does not transfer over to the next turn, seems like because it does not say "..until the end of the turn" it would carry over.

@mkol1998 3 жыл бұрын

This man makes the art of my favorite sleeves. Thank you for making the art that you make Jesper!

@alexbiersner3350 3 жыл бұрын

After watching all of these commander videos, I have finally made the plunge and in the process of making my first commander deck. I even shopped at Card Kingdom for the needed cards. Its my way of saying thank you to Command Zone for all of the amazing content. Keep up the good work guys

@OhNoTheFace 3 жыл бұрын

I dunno if you guys were avoiding picking on the special guest too much, but I am surprised that hostage taker did not take thron and that strip mine did not IMMEDIATELY destroy cradle. Especially that second thing. Picking on him? Sure. But he is playing a T&T stax deck, one should plan to be unpopular lol

@bobby45825 3 жыл бұрын

It's always odd when D&T players expect to get left alone. It's like how a buddy of mine was acting defensive when he built a rakdos turbo-punishment deck that basically fucked you up for everything you played but didn't put down a lot of blockers and, once we'd start ganging up on him, he'd be like "why are you guys ganging up on me!". Nobody wants to get taxed out of the game and getting universal tax effects out should ALWAYS warrant strong discussions and temporary alliances at the table.

@Bammab127 3 жыл бұрын

Jesper's upside-down lands irks me

@nicholasbolas 3 жыл бұрын

It's called showing off. He's an artist after all LMAO

@Joshbobjovi 3 жыл бұрын

I made the mistake of bringing it up to my cousin once and now he always plays with one land upside down. Best to just ignore it lol

@firesidedude8352 3 жыл бұрын

Me: yuriko always gets low cmc spells it’s almost like a rule. Gets a 8 cmc spell: Me: wait that illegal

@danmorgan7775 3 жыл бұрын

I guess since he came all the way from Europe and did nice art for them they figured they should let him play one of the most salt-inducing decks ever. I'm surprised it was even as close as it was.

@jeffnosdivad3080 3 жыл бұрын

Tymna and Thrasios, I literally felt all of your eyes roll hard af

@Alibanini 3 жыл бұрын

Ikr lol no hate but the deck is everywhere and its so boring to watch :/

@jeffnosdivad3080 3 жыл бұрын

@@Alibanini I get that it appeals to some, just far too sweaty for my taste.

@Pastlebox 3 жыл бұрын

I feel like threat assessment in this game wasn't done very well. As soon as Sisay was left on the board in favor of the Sol Ring, I knew this game wasn't going to go well... ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS: Something we don't see (but we do in real life) is the pre-game discussion between players about which decks they're using and if they're at the right power-level for each other. It's a vital part to help ensure someone doesn't sit in the corner twiddling their thumbs. It's been discussed on the channel in the past but I don't think I've ever seen that pre-talk discussion. It's a challenge in itself and it might add an interesting element. Please note this is not a bash at Jesper, how he played or CEDH or high-tuned decks. He played very well and the deck was beautiful (except for the stax). And, as people have said in the comments, travelling over from certain countries with their favourite decks means limiting which decks you can travel with. As Kyle said a while ago, if everyone is playing CEDH decks, then there's no confusion about the power level. I'm very guilty of seeing certain commanders and going "Ach! Hans, Run!" and spending bit too much time focusing on it. While Yuriko is (for good reason) scary, I've seen more top tier CEDH decks built with Thrasios & Tymna than I've seen casually built ones. Seeing only a few further cards (like the Stax and Sisay) should have been clear indicators that they needed to focus their efforts.

@tzarl 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was surprised that the other players were tripping over each other in the mid game to make deals with Jesper to just buy a turn when they should have known his deck was well on track to lock them out soon anyways. If they had instead tried to team up to force out all the interaction he was holding up they could have stood a better chance. Still a neat game with lots of interaction and some explosive plays!

@xardas149 3 жыл бұрын

And then literally messing up the order to NOT play sol ring and just waste mana...Jummy played god awful

@moritzhoff6412 3 жыл бұрын

Tbh jespers deck is fine and far off cedh. It sure generates a lot of value but all lot of that could have been stopped. Winning the game by beating your opponents with 2/2 seems quite fair to me.

@Pastlebox 3 жыл бұрын

@@moritzhoff6412 Most of the cards he ran were those you'd see in a hate-bear comp build. I've seen CEDH decks win without combos. Stax is an archetype for a reason, although I've seen more oppressive decks. As you say it's the value. All of those 2/2s generated really good value. That's how the deck works. I've seen games won on 1/1s with Edric - it doesn't matter the size of the creature but how you use them. Or what you give them. Or how you control the board.

@viperion_nz 3 жыл бұрын

Jesper's deck isn't CEDH but it's not "far off cedh" either. It was certainly the highest power deck at that table, and it wasn't close.

@doctordistracto8390 3 жыл бұрын

Jesper breaks the first deal of the game the first chance he gets, Jesper gets 100% of all other deal offers for the rest of the game. Alright. Also, STRIP THE CRADLE. Like what other reason is there to even have a strip mine? God to make this comment I paused the video and it just happens to be on a shot of cradle on the table, strip mine tapped for mana, and strip mine owner has a basic swamp untapped. How many times did this happen I wonder.

@Hitzel 3 жыл бұрын

to be fair i think he was asking Josh if he could draw a card and it was just communicated poorly

@ManaByJake 3 жыл бұрын

JLK didn't agree to the last deal, he said I'd kill you if I could. Josh went straight for the blood feud. Lol

@luhlttv 3 жыл бұрын

at 20 minutes exactly, ashlen says she wont remove it if jesper doesnt attack her, i assume she was talking about the cradle.

@thebear0333 3 жыл бұрын

@@luhlttv I think she said that in reference to the lotus cobra

@mattjohnson4506 3 жыл бұрын

Favorite line from the game is when Jesper adds the avacyn’s pilgrim and says the last bit of lethal damage comes from the elf! 😂

@40Found 3 жыл бұрын

I saw Jesper playing T&T and thought "huh. Maybe he's found a fun direction for these commanders" and he played GAAIV with Golgari

@TheSimmus 3 жыл бұрын

To be fair he played very quick and never annoyed anyone with talk. Best way to play Stax is to do it fast.

@40Found 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheSimmus I don't mean to imply it was a no fun deck or game, I just got mental whiplash when I tried to square the ideas of one of my favorite artists playing stax

@TheSimmus 3 жыл бұрын

@@40Found we All have a dark side, he is brave enough to show it

@Asiis 3 жыл бұрын

@@40Found Stax is a no fun deck and it made the game worse.

@xardas149 3 жыл бұрын

@@40Found Well he might jus took his "rl" deck to the table and when your playgroup plays high powered...^^

@DaveofCanada 3 жыл бұрын

This honestly feels like threat assessment didn't exist when it comes to the guest, especially considering how T&T Hatebears is such a vastly different tier over everyone else's jank. Jimmy literally couldn't do anything, Ashlen got a few triggers but wasn't allowed to do much and Josh was semi-threatening but kept focusing on both Jimmy and Ashlen. This seems like what you'd see from a pubstomp complaint thread.

@Fractalmortality 3 жыл бұрын

ehhhh I wouldn't call the other decks "Jank." Josh ramped out hard and was a threat very early. Greven punches hard and fast. Yuriko can do the same. Marchesa can have scary synergies, but Jimmy never got off the ground. You're right though, they didn't do nearly enough to stop Jesper from clamping down on the board. He deserved a fair share of focus that he rarely got.

@Farycane 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Not blowing up the Cradle was way too friendly. And punching each other while Jesper build his staxy board seems like very bad gameplay. Was unpleasant to watch.

@HOCScott 3 жыл бұрын

@@Farycane I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought this. I actually didn't enjoy this episode as much as all of their other ones. It seemed like they were afraid to play to win and instead just let the artist take away the game.

@ProphecyPhrase 3 жыл бұрын

@@Farycane I agree.

@ProphecyPhrase 3 жыл бұрын

@@HOCScott I didn't like this episode either but that's from someone playing stax and the other players didn't team up to pick apart at his board and instead aimed at each other.

@TheSnarkyBrit 3 жыл бұрын

The first episode I ever watched of this was with Mitch and his budget deck, and that was by far my favorite. Seeing just one budget deck in these games makes them more entertaining to watch for me (not that they aren't in the first place). Cheers.

@ODIRGO 3 жыл бұрын

I don't care if he was a guest, the moment he counciously decided to play T&T with stax, he deserved to be the archenemy the entire game.

@peanutbutternjlee5172 3 жыл бұрын

I was suppose to study, it’s 2am, but ANYTHING FOR EXTRA TURNS

@olafbengtsson4410 3 жыл бұрын

same here

@Kattywagon29 3 жыл бұрын

I was supposedtoo be grading papers, but...

@mayonice3577 3 жыл бұрын

Love how Jesper continuously turns his lands upside down

@romji187 3 жыл бұрын

Taking a Sol Ring with the Hostage Taker? While there is a Sisay, Greven, Tymna, Mana Crypt and a Thorn outside? Really...? And Zealous Conscripts takes Yuriko? Which Ashlyn is able to play again? While there is a Sword of Feast and Famine?

@lionbartlegends 3 жыл бұрын

But doesnt the sword of feast and famine just untap jesper's lands, cause the equipment doesnt exchange control

@cameronbyers7335 3 жыл бұрын

@@lionbartlegends Ik this is late but... Conscripts takes control of target permanent, meaning the sword would be Josh's and it would untap his lands and not Jesper's

@cameronp6176 3 жыл бұрын

@@cameronbyers7335 Only if he stole the sword, and not the creature attached to it. He would have then needed to pay the mana to re-equip it

@cameronbyers7335 3 жыл бұрын

@@cameronp6176 I thought he stole only the sword... but thanks for the revision

@cameronbyers7335 3 жыл бұрын

@@cameronp6176 oh my bad I forgot what he stole... nvm lol

@djethanol256 3 жыл бұрын

I felt for ashlynn when she played bitterblossem and Jesper was like hey that's the wrong art. I can only imagine that was a very awkward moment irl

@noesunyoutuber7680 2 жыл бұрын

Hey, when it's a battle between you and Rebecca Guay, sometimes you have to admit defeat.

@derekgraskewicz2104 2 жыл бұрын

@DJ Ethanol That’s when you get spiteful. Tell him you like this art better…

@FreddieFevens 3 жыл бұрын

So Jesper is playing Thrasios Tymna Stacks? I haven't seen the episode yet, but I predict a long drawn out victory for him.

@92bagder 3 жыл бұрын

wouldtnt be surprised if the tier 1 competitive deck wins

@xenu9420 3 жыл бұрын

Isn’t kind of funny that people were more mad at Amoz for “Playing Mean” and no one seems mad at Jesper. Edit: I just want to say that I don’t think that anyone should be mad at Jesper. I think that my comment kind of gave off that vibe and it wasn’t intended.

@OhNoTheFace 3 жыл бұрын

@@xenu9420 Amoz goldfished for like 3 turns, that is why people did not like him

@NeberusBeta 3 жыл бұрын

yes they needed to kill him 1º ASAP

@xardas149 3 жыл бұрын

@@xenu9420 You cannot be mad at dutch people with the way they speak english xD Amaz doesnt have that bonus

@katscratch_newt 3 жыл бұрын

Jimmy really saving that Sol Ring for a rainy day.. Could've played it on his very next turn "for free" (costs 2, generates 2). He also lets it slip the turn after that. Also, Jesper giving his lands the carousel treatment is great to watch!

@jacobshaffer7831 3 жыл бұрын

i kept looking at his lands like "something is wrong here. idk what it is. but something is wrong" XD

@onewingedguy 3 жыл бұрын

Jesper is brutal, but hilarious. Also loved the Yuriko representation, my absolute favorite commander. So glad they added more support for ninjas in recent sets.

@puffin-onehandedgamer1164 3 жыл бұрын

hahaha! "you played the wrong bitter blossom, I guess I attack you first"

@erniespratt1660 3 жыл бұрын

Jesper Ejsing! One of my favorite MtG artists. Alrighty then, I'm in.

@jeanlanglois1033 3 жыл бұрын

Finally Your Marchesa deck you teased us back in 3 years

@jeanlanglois1033 3 жыл бұрын

Dang it ! It didn't went as expected ! Please play it again !!!! Thanks for the show

@cosmotect 3 жыл бұрын

Oh my god just how am I going to live without that playmat!!!! Jesus life is sooo hard

@gamebreaker60 3 жыл бұрын

Josh and Jimmy, you are the only thing that makes me smile besides my family lol thank you.

@justcallmejasper7527 3 жыл бұрын

Jimmy at last Playing the marchesa deck we've heard about since epsidoe one of the podcast

@dbroccoliman 3 жыл бұрын

"Playing" was unfortunately generous. We didn't get to see much of it :(

@matheusrian7521 3 жыл бұрын

He already played it at another extra turns. The episode with Mitch

@thiagoanbonfim 3 жыл бұрын

@@matheusrian7521 in that game Jimmy used Breya, tho

@matheusrian7521 3 жыл бұрын

@@thiagoanbonfim Oh damn, you're right!

@paulmcclain642 3 жыл бұрын

I was excited too--Marchesa is one of my main decks. I actually don't like his build much though. With Marchesa you need to slam her as early as possible and then make multiple threats stick (I like to play her out with a free counterspell in hand to protect her i.e. Fierce Guardianship). Haste and a sac outlet are key too to unlock Dethrone. All that topping and scroll racking is a waste of time and mana I took all that junk out and added fast ramp and low CMC bangers.

@elan8213 3 жыл бұрын

Really glad to see a Marchesa, the Black Rose deck being played - as I’m sure most other Marchesa pilots are! 👊🏻

@Siegorius 3 жыл бұрын

There are dozens of us! Dozens I tell you!

@DeknasAnimated 3 жыл бұрын

Going to see him play it more. Marchesa didn't even hit the board. Sad days. Edit Going=Hoping

@elan8213 3 жыл бұрын

@@DeknasAnimated Yeah - kind of sad about that. It feels a little bit like the gap in power level between the other three decks and Jesper's was a bit too high, he barely broke a sweat the entire match.

@thesquirrelwranglers5076 3 жыл бұрын

I’m not, I play that deck. Everyone plays it wrong, Jimmy didn’t cast his commander once. Bad show.

@jasonandrews1770 3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear we will be getting more extra turns. Its a nice switch up from game knights. Feels more genuine

@ZypherWildfire 3 жыл бұрын

Jimmy, at your end-step when Jesper tapped out, why didn't you Cyclonic Rift then? 36:10

@jaakkovuori9616 3 жыл бұрын

"Tymna and Thrasios" Ah. Glad to hear that everyone's playing casual and janky decks.

@d.w.7203 3 жыл бұрын

most boring commanders ever.

@lukasloetscher1037 3 жыл бұрын

i think both of them are fine as commanders on their own. they just should not have the partner keyword...

@isaiahneski6009 3 жыл бұрын

Lol haha yeah I already knew the top tier deck was going to win.

@pro711200 3 жыл бұрын

@@d.w.7203 so basically what your saying is that the less open ended the commander is the more interesting it is? I don't think there are as open ended commanders as tymna thrasios.

@d.w.7203 3 жыл бұрын

@@pro711200 you know damn well what people do with this "openess". 4 color goodstuff is as boring as it gets.

@Pltnmangel 3 жыл бұрын

Can’t wait to watch! Super happy to see gameplay more often.

@Habeev07 3 жыл бұрын

YES MORE COMMANDER PLAY. So happy they are making gms more often. THIS IS GREAT!!

@peterlewandowski9912 3 жыл бұрын

When I see a new Command Zone video drop on my notifications, I know I get to chill later after work with a great new video! Thanks JLK and Jimmy, and the whole staff! Love what you all do!

@sean21209 3 жыл бұрын

Jesper and Josh: Jimmy and Ashlen: SCROLL RACK!

@MJkakashi 3 жыл бұрын

So everybody targets Ashlen, and just let the Thrasios player do as he pleases? wtf? This episode makes me so angry. ALWAYS get rid of Tymna/Thrasios and ALWAYS stripmine a Cradle.

@cbhaines13 3 жыл бұрын

Gotta make the guests happy I suppose.

@nicholasbolas 3 жыл бұрын

Ash was the 2nd highest paid person for the show. That's why they needed 4 sponsors. She was the fall girl. LOL

@Reddgameplus 3 жыл бұрын

Josh on queue with the immediate politics.

@duesexistat5016 3 жыл бұрын

She got targeted hard. I could tell she was getting annoyed even though she was trying to be cool, and I don’t blame her. I feel like she was a scapegoat when everyone else was afraid to pick on the guest.

@Zenith8924 3 жыл бұрын

Honestly though this is exactly how I felt through the episode. Ashlen got targeted hard! Sure her commander isn't one to scoff at, but Thrasios/Tymna is wayyy worse! I usually like all the episodes, but this one really bugged me. It's like they just let the guest run rampant and hardly tried to control his board. It could be argued that for video purposes they didn't want to just destroy all of his things, but he obviously didnt share an equal mindset when it came to playing a high tier cEDH deck. It definitely shows the difference between a cEDH player and more causal players in comparison.

@Keoruan 3 жыл бұрын

I feel like I just watched a Mario Kart race where 3 people had blue shells and refused to throw them... Hostage Taker, Font of Agonies, Strip Mine. Of these 3 removal options off the top of my head after watching this game, 2 of them were used on Ashlen who at no point in this game was in a dominant board position. The other was Ashlen's card and just not used. I get it, she wins quite a bit, but I feel like there was some EXTREME misreads on the threat assessment this game. And I mean, Ashlen, Jesper spent legit half the game smacking you in the face :(. Strip mine him. Between Jesper getting away with just beating on Ashlen all game and Josh backing down when Jesper threatened him, like... even politically, this game felt off.

@bryangiron5354 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe because he traveled far to be there in person they didn’t try ganging up on him and when they realized all the shenanigans he was already too far ahead

@joshkirkfield 3 жыл бұрын

Ashlen would have become a bigger threat if they left her alone, and Jesper probably would have won anyway. What matters is that they had a cool guest and had fun.

@SenorCoupon 3 жыл бұрын

@@joshkirkfield Honestly, no, that's not what matters. All of that is pointless if the integrity of the game is suspect. If the video title was "People have fun with cool guest in poorly played, potentially fixed game", then yes, that would be what matters. But there is at least an implication of fair play in this series, and it violates the trust of the viewer if it is suspected that the game was thrown. Not stripping the Cradle is absolutely inexcusable, especially against the player who controlled the game and had the best deck.

@Venjamin 3 жыл бұрын

@Solo Slime They are playing for money. Or did you miss the ads? Lol.

@dasdrifter12 2 жыл бұрын

@@SenorCoupon the Yuriko deck was actually the strongest deck at the table for sure. She just got unlucky draws.

@eric0967 3 жыл бұрын

extra turns is my favorite show you guys have. I love that you guys play your own decks. and the higher power level. having a yuriko deck and meren stax. this was a fun game to watch.

@nolifeSnorlax 3 жыл бұрын

Is this real life? More extra turns? F YEAH!

@GoatOfThunder 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone: Comes to play Magic Jesper: Does his best to not let them play

@crackerjack78100 3 жыл бұрын

I absolutely love extra turns. Thank you so much for doing this type of video!!

@apjapki 3 жыл бұрын

Incredible. Did not expect an extra video!

@SilHbs 3 жыл бұрын

So I wait YEARS to see a Marchesa stealing themed playing, then I receive this. A match against Tymna/Thrasios --'

@Deeplight32 3 жыл бұрын

As a Marchessa main, I was so excited to see Jimmy’s Marchessa. This game just broke my heart.

@SilHbs 3 жыл бұрын

It's just... Frustrating. Tymna/Thrasios is NOT a fun deck.

@junpingqiu897 3 жыл бұрын

The Tymna and Thrasios deck is not a cedh deck, but high level casual deck. If it is a cedh deck you will see: 1. the 4 most expensive counterspells (Force of Will, Mana Drain, Fierce Guardianship, Force of Negation) protecting the combo pieces 2. Lots of tutors 3. infinite mana combo to draw entire deck with Thrasios and cast Thassa's Oracle for the win 4. Demonic Consultation and Thassa's Oracle for the win 5. Game over by turn 4 or 5. Nevertheless stax pieces are also played in CEDH table (usually to stop or slow down the combo player), but are usually played in Derevi or Commanders in Azorius colours.

@Tacklepig 3 жыл бұрын

That's not quite true, depending on the meta winning by combat is quite possible even in cEDH. Hatebear stax is quite playable and can easily win through beatdown, and combos often would be disadvantageous for this type of deck. Also, a stax list will take the game way longer than turn 5, even in cEDH. The list he played here could easily hold its own on cEDH tables. I'm playing a similar hatebear stax deck (though I'd admit mine is high powered casual, I do have a few suboptimal choices) and I've won competitive games with that, too. Remember there's no actual distinction between cEDH and actual commander. cEDH is just playing competitively. If your "casual" deck is good enough to win tournaments, there's no reason to not consider it competitive.

@AJANI97 3 жыл бұрын

Just yesterday I rewatched a couple of episodes in anticipation of the next one and boom the next day we’re surprised and blessed yet again with awesome content😍 thank for sweetening my monday night and greetings from Germany❤️

@mavo_6482 3 жыл бұрын

I love the way they do their little sponsor skits. Because they still get the point across but still entertain

@snugswashere6504 3 жыл бұрын

And that boys and girls is why you always team up and take out the control player as soon as possible.

@OhNoTheFace 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Guests should know to play stax and/or control, because they won't focus you like they should for fear of feel bads

@smittynumber1812 3 жыл бұрын

Can't wait for the Roundtable episode about this one

@xenu9420 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder how they’re going to spin the intentional misplays.

@jacobschiller4486 2 жыл бұрын

They never make Roundtables for Extra Turns videos, only Game Knights episodes.

@snoresway 3 жыл бұрын

This was such a fun game to watch. More Jesper!

@Pupalah 3 жыл бұрын

Ive had a really bad day, and this is just what i needed. Thanks josh, and jimmy.

@PeniskoboldLP 3 жыл бұрын

i lov Ashlees ninja deck so much and herself

@Jowanson33 3 жыл бұрын

To me this episode really feels like they just let him won. Some actions made little to no sense, as others have also stated, they just left him run away with the game when they should've ganged up on him to hold him back to at least give themselves some chance of winning.

@JesperEjsing 3 жыл бұрын

There was a lot of politics going on during the game, that would swing decisions in my favour.

@Filmsandnerdstuff Жыл бұрын

@@JesperEjsing hello jesper

@didupaytheone2678 2 жыл бұрын

Loving this game,all the big swings from Josh, from everyone ,nice casual magic

@AnonAstarri 3 жыл бұрын

Anybody else obsessed with Jespers voice. Its so soothing and majestic

@samverick 3 жыл бұрын

Jesper brought a shotgun to a slapfight. That deck was not playing around.

@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 3 жыл бұрын

LOL that T1:P

@MrFlayer4 3 жыл бұрын

It wasn't that much of a slapfight to be fair. Yuriko is fast and consistentent. Graven can, and was, very scary. Thing is that two decks bricked with ashlin who probably kept a really bad hand skipped two first turns and jimmy was unable to do his thing. If we've were able to see like three games it would be pretty balanced.

@ThePhiRexian 3 жыл бұрын

"Jesper is playing Thrasios and Tymna" Oh so hes just gonna win.

@Organicflava 3 жыл бұрын

Just had to throw this in here late, but Jesper really won me over back in Lorwyn with his art and has been probably my favorite fantasy artist ever since. I don't have the funds to back the kickstarter as of now but I want to let you know that I LOVE you Jesper, and I'm happy you got to be a spotlight here. Keep making insane art buddy!

@ratneck2947 3 жыл бұрын

nice power level of all decks. pretty nice to see more games like this

@daniescc9622 3 жыл бұрын

Josh should have forced Jesper’s hand, so they could gang up on him and get a chance at killing him, pulling through so many stax was gonna be really complicated but a 3v1 situation could have turn the result of the game