Ending with the obvious conclusion that a dream is more likely.

Not the merit but the way that it's possible. The merit of time travel is somewhat obvious but the interesting part is how it would work

I‘m an ENFP, but I relate. I‘ve been learning Scottish Gaelic for the past few months just because I felt like it

I'm on it 👍🏻

Old Norse sounds fascinating and I have considered taking it up it but I have been learning other languages for several years because they have more resources available. - Yes, I'm an INTP.

Yeah... I'm an Intp and I learned Sanskrit for no discernable reason. Certainly no useful reason. But what is the point of being useful if the humanoids are just gonna muck it up?

Really? This is something we do? I'm learning Spanish just because.

Hunted Snark gets credit for that one! 👌

@@dearkristin You know adult INTP had a surge of glee and confidence after nailing that delivery towards their younger self in tandem with delivering an advice that hit home. Which is why she overshares right after, starting with saying how she hasn't found someone she could trust with all of her thoughts.

Mr. Snark...umm... I've been wanting to ask you a question for some time, and this comment is as good as any. I don't want to pry, but, are you a Boojum? Sorry if that's too personal, but you see I am a very forgetful baker, and I"m a little concerned about the suddenly-silently-vanishing part.

Unobtanium, surely.

💯💯💯

Whoa, I'm reading KZfaq comments and I'm getting vocabulary! Boojum = imaginary dangerous animal Unobtainium = imaginary/scientifically impossible/rare metal --- it's "un-obtain-able"

(I was going to mention an actually-existing artificial element, but their half-lives are too short)

Lucky you, you got access to your Fi easily. I “feel” like the deep internalized notion that we’re broken or incomplete, and must mimic feelers and sensors won’t really be undone by a single phrase. We can build defenses mechanisms to deny it, but it’s still going to be there. No matter how well we can logic our way out, our Fe is part of us, whispering it’s sweet words and pressuring us to fit in. It’s paradoxical, really. The more we deny our Fe, the less complete we “feel”. The more we empower our Fe, the less “ourselves” we feel.

@@entropy8634 I sort of understand what you mean but I don't regret developing my Fe

@@alinaqirizvi1441 good for you 👍. I can’t really relate, I’m still at **that** stage in life where I’m figuring things out. Somewhere is that perfect ratio between the two extremes (complete rejection of Fe, complete empowerment of Fe) that allows me to achieve the same satisfaction.

...Huh. Filing that way for later.

I hate when people say "I feel" and adding something that is not a feeling. Feelings are made so no one can argue with those. That is their nature. Stating that " I feel like {random thoughts here}" is really just suggestive communication saying: "you are not allowed to argue with the opinion of someone else that I'm mirroring to you right now". Be proud of your wide open way of thinking and embrace this power of yours. If you want fake feelings because of society - mimic feelings and use that as you own wall to hide. Betraying thoughts is like betraying something from your core.

The intp needs decades

@@greenlimabean precisely!

Thanks! 😁

This should be mandatory viewing for young lost INTPs honestly. Came for the laughs, left completely wistful wishing my younger INTP self could realize all this way earlier than he did

(intp consultant on video content. Thing is, I knew exactly where to hit ... I half feel like I should apologise ... )

@@huntedsnark7507 Did you give advice on the outfits too? I haven't seen anyone discuss that nor the subtile but mandatory "Where was I? Oh-". Actually there's a lot more... Hm, really well done

It was on the point.

@@laiag4854 I didn't advise on costumes, I think the hat was maybe what the intp wore in the Philosphers vid. I recall commenting that I have one very like it. But 'now where was I...?' 100% intp 😉

That sounds like an INFP reaction tbh

@@catdisaster22 The thought crossed my mind. Though question, would that not qualify as "excitement." (Cue Duel of Fates song begin to play)

Especially from the EF types. ENTP’s being adaptable by nature and having a wild imagination, I honestly don’t think I’d be too shocked if something like this happened. I could see myself just going “Huh. Alright. So what do I need to know?”

Aw, thanks 🥲

As a younger INTP, I am interested to know how you navigate through life. Do you just live in the moment and not care about / don't have any long term goals or you have an idea of what you want to achieve but you don't know exactly how to achieve it, so you do the things that are generally considered as "good" keep living.

@@adityasubhedar9556 I'm afraid I'm not the best person to go for advice to, because right now I am in a very bad place mentally, but I have some bits that might be useful. Don't ignore physical problems. Like minor health problems that don't require immediate solution or something broken in the house, that you can live without, but it would still be nice to have it working. I have a tendency to ignore Se like it won't eventually bite me in the ass, so if you have a similar problem, don't let it grow too big and overwhelming. The more things pile up, the more intimidating and seemingly unsolvable they become. But I also have ADHD and currently am in autistic burnout, so that might be not an INTP thing. I hope you will be able to find what really makes your life worth living. That's the key, if your job feels good and you actually like at least some part of what you're doing, it won't drain as much energy and you (probably) won't go into a burnout. About navigating… even if you don't know where to go, go away from things, people and places that make you feel bad. You can figure it out as you go, but sticking with what doesn't work in fear of having nothing to replace it with will slowly kill you. Uncertainty will help a right idea to be born, and sticking to your Si habits and routines that don't really work for you anymore will only hold you back. In conclusion: don't be afraid to ditch things that you realised weren't right for you, even if you at the moment don't know what to do after. I don't know how mature you are in that area, but that's a very INTP advice. Feelings matter. You can include them INTO your logical system. Remember that humans are animals, and evolution doesn't make what will be the most logically thinking, it kills what isn't able to survive effectively. Logical thinking isn't absolutely necessary for survival and reproduction, so not everyone has it. "But they SHOULD" argument doesn't work, because that's not how world works, you can't change that, you have to work around. Feelings have a use too. Be connected to your own feelings, so they won't bite you in the ass when you're not expecting. Learn how they work and use them - your own and other people's - take them into account. If your future goal (or an outline of what you want to do, that's better, make it flexible) won't be in harmony with your feelings, you're on the wrong path, you're bound to fail or become miserable. We value and prefer logical solutions, but in some situations a logical thing to do would be to solve it using feelings, or taking them into an account. For example, choosing a job: it's suitable for you logically from every aspect, but the boss is an idiot who makes everyone's life harder for no reason and uses annoyingly ineffective strategies and pressures you to use them too. Your feelings tell you that another month in this environment and you will snap, you will be feeling yourself even more miserable than now, and probably will finally yell at them. Your logic takes that information and draws a conclusion: if things continue to go as they are going now, you simply won't have the energy to do not only work-related stuff, but other spheres of your life with suffer the damage from it. Plus, why work ineffectively, if that aggravates you and lowers your productivity significantly, when you can seek another option. So you seek another option and now work for another company with a more effective and less toxic boss, and how you're feeling immediately improves, and because of that, not only your productivity goes up, but your satisfaction from all the work you did, too. Fe is not a liability, it's a tool. As any tool, it can be mastered through theory AND practice. You will see the use of it and all the benefits as compared to not using it. Seriously, it's like magic. Plus, as I said earlier, sometimes the logical thing to do would be to do not a logical thing. Your task at hand is to convince person, for example, not "teach" them how to think and see logic, so use YOUR logic and figure out what would work on this specific person, not what should work on someone like you. It's FAR more effective than to go familiar route. Also, remember that what you are able to compartmentalize or don't even see as a problem, other people may view as very important issue or even a deal-breaker. And they are not wrong for that, they just have different priorities in life, that only partially influenced by their conscious decisions. Like, we didn't just one day decided to prioritize logic in our decision making, it came naturally, and they just can't one day decide and adopt a whole another way of thinking. Be patient and understanding, and it will significantly improve your communication skills, and with them your results. As Fe can work as a tool for Ti needs, Ti can be used as a tool to satisfy Fe. We NEED connection, we need understanding from other people, we need that stupid harmony in the group, or we will go insane trying to bottle up a very important need, that is necessary for living a good, satisfying life. Okay, most of what I wrote is not a direct answer to your question (because I don't have one), but in my opinion it's an important information to help you navigate through life. I don't know how many of that you already have figured out on your own (and if you did, I'm proud of you), so some of it may sound obvious, but I hope I was able to help you in some way. Take care.

Subconscious is flipping all letters? So is ‘aspirational’ flipping just dominant’s and inferior’s letters?

@@jameswilkerson4412 I think it depends on what sources/perspectives you get this info from and what personalitiy model you're using. I'm operating under a kind of foursided model of personality, i.e. the main personality in question is the "ego", flipping the middle two letters is "superego," flipping all the letter is the "subconscious," and flipping just the outer two is the "shadow," but again, it seems different sources use different terms for these.

And Fi deamon, "emotions, don't they suck haha"... I'm glad Kristin went with the route she did, I understand why people say it's necessary to "express the feelings to other human beings" to process them, but I really don't like myself when I have to do that. She even recommended "journalling" which proved to be by far the superior option for me. Even Ni critic. "Just have a general list of places you'd like to be, not necessarily a plan" is a good advice especially when we get too overwhelmed by all the odd passions and visions other people seem to pick for their future and ours just look way too complicated/diverigng that we don't even know where to begin

Hahahaha I would be the same

The INTP would think a lot about how they might do that ... but ultimately and regretfully decide that they had no right to try to influence Hildegarde's decision. 😉

​@huntedsnark7507 😥 but, but, but, what if Hildegarde herself is only leaving because she secretly shares their feelings but believes they're not reciprocated? Ooh maybe employ an ENFJ to do the talking, like Hildegarde used for her break-up! 🤣 BTW I talk a good game, but I'm pretty hopeless at this stuff most of the time, too!

Remind me, which type is Hildegarde?

​@@jameswilkerson4412 I think another INTP

Your *relationship* to emotions

the pathetic fallacy

If you were an ENTP you would know it. But of course, can you realy ever be that sure?..

This was really good "tips" for an INTP. Working on emotions is pouring into relationships and growing/pushing past the uncomfortable stuff instead of letting it isolate an INTP more.

I would say: When trying new things and meeting new people there will be a lot of times when it won't work. Sometimes you can do everything by the book and fail, other times you will do everything wrong and things will work out. People will do, say and assume all kinds of things, so have a sense of humour and learn not to care when you don't need to. Also, don't be jealous or put other people on a pedestal - everyone has strengths and weaknesses. You are free to make your own journey and there is value in taking the longer road.

All true! The trick -- probably for everyone, but particularly a young INTP -- is to find balance between the push through and the self care. It can be so hard to know where to set the goal posts for yourself with the social/people stuff. Especially if you're at the far end of the introvert scale (by ordinary concepts not just 'type'). We definitely *don't* need to be held to Feeler/extravert standards, but we do need to find a way to just *be* in this big people-y world of ours (not to mention that we often develop an impulse to help later on too -- damn Fe!). And that can be a really slow growth for us. If we force it, bad/stressy/overwhelming experiences can really get in the way. hard to stuff that into a 5 minute comedy vid. 😉

I'm probably mostly INTP [1] and I'd probably have wanted to grill my future self on which model of time travel is actually instantiated in the universe we live in. If my future self can interact with my past self does that mean I'm interacting with a future self that never met his future self, and that I'm headed on a tangential trajectory? Or will I one day travel back in time to deliver the exact same message to my past self, in which case, where did the knowledge first come from? Also, what major events have happened between now and the future? I did enjoy the video though. Keep up the good work! [1] Insofar as the MBTI is a valid map. In the past I've found myself trying to connect different personality schemes into one meta-scheme to correct for the strengths and weaknesses of each, which I realise is the most stereotypically INTP way to approach the topic. I also realise adding footnotes to KZfaq comments is another thing only an INTP would do.

Have you checked the INTP Survival Guide YT channel?

That version went for four hours 🤭

@@exnihilonihilfit6316 I just found that. Any favorite vids there?

So INTP to have edited the comment haha. Congrats on 10 years of being saved :)

What changed ur mind about religion? (a curious intp who just recently went from being a believer to agnosticism)

Also curious about your path of switching from atheistic to believing.

I don't think I can explain it in a way that makes sense without over-explaining lol. To put it simply, it came after my conclusion of spiritual evil as a real thing, a supernatural thing. I had been doing a great amount of research on many things that lead me to that point. I was noticing patterns (big shock right lol) in history, media, etc. where it was undeniable to me that there is a concerted effort to keep humanity divided and stupid, at the very least (and by a specific group of people). When I picked up a Bible for the first time, what I was reading was lining up with the symbolism and themes I saw on the world stage. I felt energy and light as things started to click. I hold a fairly extensive philosophy around the nature of sin and evil, but I'll cut it short. Though I still consider myself Christian, I am undergoing another theological restructuring that's kind of pulling the rug out from under me... again. But that's the beauty of Ti-Ne, right? 😅must always adjust accordingly to new information, even if it hurts... so long as it makes the most sense.

​@@elenawhite88You talk about a specific group of people. Did you continue to believe that after you were saved? That is dangerous. The forces of hell are trying to destroy every person from the inside. At particular times they may be having more success with one group than another, and that group may become responsible for many of the problems of the world at that time (e.g, the Germans 80 years ago), but there's no single group that's always in that position, and thinking there is makes us vulnerable to thinking we are immune. See Ephesians 6:10 and following, particularly verse 12.

Are you an INTJ or INTP?

@@jameswilkerson4412 why

Dumb questions by both of ya... congratulations.

@@Lacter12I’m just saying did the INTJ think it would apply to you directly or just because you’re similar? (I’m not sure which I am myself)

@@jameswilkerson4412 I think I am INTP and they called me out for constantly overthinking, that I don't need reasons to like what I like. I think it's their Fi looking at my Ti. They like me because of common interests

Oh, and I also was just yesterday ranting about characters in fiction with “undesirable” characteristics, like shyness or introversion or physical “flaws,” only getting stories in which they must be “fixed.”

I wonder if our hostess likes this saint: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hildegard_of_Bingen?wprov=sfti1

@@jameswilkerson4412 well i certainly do 🙃

so true, so very, very true...

Same! I love God now. Took decades, like 4. Intps need decades of life experience and time to think.

I went from Atheism to Agnosticism and back to Atheism, mostly because I discovered that there are different type of Atheism, including Agnostic Atheism. >> Atheist criticism of agnosticism says that the unprovability of a god's existence does not imply an equal probability of either possibility.[24] Australian philosopher J.J.C. Smart argues that "sometimes a person who is really an atheist may describe herself, even passionately, as an agnostic because of unreasonable generalized philosophical skepticism which would preclude us from saying that we know anything whatever, except perhaps the truths of mathematics and formal logic."

Have you checked out Eastern Orthodoxy? It has that sense of mystery and lore that an INTP's Ti->Ne->Si adores. It's also mainly practiced in Greece and elsewhere in South-Eastern Europe (as well as Eastnrn Europe, including Ukraine and Russia), which is a history and language nerd's buffet! Also, because Orthodox theology is so deeply founded in the East, when speaking about theology, one uses terms from Greek, Old Church Slavonic, etc which is the most INTP thing ever, randomly using words from niche languages to describe concepts that are hard to describe in English, at least via single word, niche INTP effectively, I love that! Orthodoxy also founds itself on mystery and tradition, which is a super petri dish for an INTP's Si, and also deep theology lore to feed your Ne. Besides the deep lore, if you are still new to philosophy, there is a flexibility for concepts for which may interest an INTP, but bare no reason to have dogma, so regardless of whether you are YEC or are happy in (theistic) evolution waters, Orthodoxy welcomes. I am biased towards Orthodoxy as one, of course, but if as an INTP, I have chosen this path, then there must be hope for an INTP's insatiable thirst for knowledge, but also a spot to know where you are to quench one's interest in philosophy and hypothetical. Religion is not a myth, as common misconception states. In fact Christianity, as well as Islam, Hinduism and other religions have always promoted research and science, for Christians merely view science as the study of God's Creation. Even, the Big Bang Theory and Genetics were proposed by a priest and clergy as a Christian alternative for what is mainstream. I am here if you have questions, much love to all my fellow INTPs :)

One thing I’ve learned is that both top functions and weak shadow functions tend to cause most issues for everyone. It makes sense because a virtue comes with a tied weakness, and a weakness like a shadow function creates a deficit with its own issues.

I'm intp. I needed my entp friend to make me engage, talk, move. Engaging with others sometimes furthers our thoughts, and it definately does with an entp. NOTHING better than new thoughts.

@@greenlimabean awesome! I’m happy to hear that! Does it ever get tiring having the rapid fire exchange of ideas with an ENTP?

@@greenlimabean also I’m curious as an ENTP whether you consider yourself to be more of a thought generator or thought explorer?

I (INTP who’s often mistaken for an ISTP) had a university pal (ENTP). We had a good synergy. He was the geekier one, still he was well liked by everyone (me included), but there were days I just wished he would shut the hell up and let me think in peace. And he liked to challenge me to literally anything. Most of them were odd and really random stuff. I really enjoyed his company but interacting with him drained my energy to the extreme

@@adrasthea17 i can relate to constantly wanting to compete. My wife used to get mad at me for it! My INTP son has gotten competitive at Mariokart so we enjoy playing that together with my wild ESTP son who is basically my INTP son’s best friend/ enemy lol!

4 months late but aw! Thank you!

Is he old enough that he’d grok/appreciate these ‘helpful hints’?

What a conundrum for an intp. To know he's intj and not be intp. You can't tell an Intp directly anything agaisnt what they already "know." Hmm, you've got to plant info somewhere for him to read. Maybe Info aboyt the Intj. First he realize he's not into because he's not productive.

And the 'dream you' wouldn't use that code word because?

@milinski_6893 very well if you can distinguish your dreams from reality. Even I dream the most bizarre things, I can easily identify my dreams. BUT when I'm thinking about the scenario, the thought of a future me suddenly popping from nowhere also seem unrealistic to me right now(knowing all the technologies we have right now and to an extent being able to imagine how far future few decades can go in terms of technological/scientific endeavours), so it'd feel like there's an unrealistic entity in a hyper-realistic surrounding. And just one unrealistic happening is enough to make a conclusion of a dream. Although I admit, it won't be a fast conclusion, I'd be very weirded out and constantly guessing and second guessing like the younger intp in the skit. Kristen did a very nice job, it'd be exactly how I'd react too.

@milinski_6893 there are two types of us. I usually just bite myself and see if it's the correct kind of pain.

aha, but if the code word is in your mind you could have definitely generated it in a dream

@milinski_6893 Wouldn’t the simplest, yet quite effective solution be that you choose a codeword (actually a code sentence would be better) and then if you ever travel back in time to meet a younger version of yourself, you simply write the sentence down and make the younger you read it? Given that in dreams - even while lucid dreaming - it’s very rare (some say impossible) to be able to read, that would give you quite an easy way to determine whether you are dreaming or it’s time travel.

agreed!

I think your speech sounds cute to me…