Like what? I feel that I have too many choices, and because I have an optic addiction, it ends up with me buying too many rifles.

literally all they had to do was make a 2-12 that mirrors the helos feature set except for the china thing

That's generally how the government works. 😂 But, regardless optics, how are you not being heard?

What particularly were you wanting? I've looked at the features, and this seems to be a pretty fantastic scope. The LPVO is under 18 ounces. Glass should be good. You want uncapped turrets with zero stop? The most important thing to me in an LPVO is lack of fisheye image distortion at 1x.

@@malcolm777b literally no one asked for either of these Fudd based sfp, moa, capped turret, overseas junk. The only thing they got right was magnification range. We all asked for a 2-12x? FFP MRAD 🎄, exposed locking turrets, Japanese glass @min, and as durable as you can get while being lightweight

@@theLeadGin I have literally heard nobody asking for the scope you're describing. That's niche as hell. First of all, FFP with a 6x erector means huge compromise on the size being too big at full zoom, or too small zoomed out. Ever look through a Nightforce FFP at lowest mag? The tree is almost invisible. As for the scope you're describing, Athlon Helos BTR 2-12 is everything your asking for +1 ounce and totally decent glass for the price. They're not exactly flying off the shelf. There's NF NXS 2.5-10 Trijicon Credo 2-10 (basically ticks all your boxes with a 5x erector which will be better with FFP) Leupold MK5HD 2-10 if you can deal without the tree. USO 1.8-10 has a HORUS reticle, in your weight limit. RITON has a 2-12 with capped turrets. Then there's all the 1-10x LPVOs.

@@malcolm777b the Athlon is flying off the shelf though, because it's the closest thing as to what I described. It's downfall is its made in China and durability is questionable. Every other optic you listed is either Chinese garbage or outdated (that includes the "new" outdated leupold). We need more high quality options, not more low budget options. The only higher quality options we have that don't break the bank, are Nightforce and some of the Razors.

Boomers

Because it's Chinese low rent garbage?

How do you think they get the price so low on those scopes

Monstrum is hot garbage. Look through a mid to high tier lpvo and you'll never want to buy a monstrum again.

what would you recommend as an lpvo?

@@jnjr45 for around $250, probably the PA 1-6 nova. At around $450-$500, the Vortex pst 1-6. Around $700-$800, delta stryker 1-6 or credo hx 1-6 (bdc hunter reticle). Above that, most lpvo's have their pros and cons and there's a lot of good ones. Vortex razor gen2 1-6 is usually the gold standard around $1200 (or lower if you find a good deal). 1-6 is usually the sweet spot of magnification range. Most optics still don't do 1-8 or 1-10 very well.

But that would be a lie

@@mitchminteer317 you’re right, what I actually meant is it would be better to lower the price on their current models rather than make cheaper versions of them.

In 1-6, it’s a better option imo. What use case are you using a holdover at a less than 6x power?

😂

I refuse to buy SFP. An optic with a shifting zero through zoom ranges is of zero value to me.

@@Slay_No_More Zero doesn’t shift through zoom range. Hold overs do though.

Why would you want FFP on an LPVO? 😂

Your Tax money has paid for alot of them. If you knew the government was buying a large quanity of products from you no matter the price, how much would you sell it for? Thats exactly why they cost this much. Nothing to do with quality or anything. You can get the exact same scope from china for 1/20th of the price.

@@JLouis-uf9izthe government buys them at wholesale prices. Nice try though.

@@keyboardcommando5146 ok

This comment indeed shows your upstanding moral character