Thank you~~very well said. I am 62, ISTJ, and my whole life has been built around establishing peace, comfort (coziness), and stability. But I am prepared for a disruption and will hopefully take it in stride (to the best of my ability). 🙂

"The valuing of S makes these types appreciative of comfort, utility and overall quality of experience. These types want life to run smoothly and enjoyably, placing emphasis on the harmony of the here and now. Decisions are made in regards to what is pleasurable or painless in the moment and lifestyles are usually centered around deriving quality of life and satisfaction from the things one currently has, rather than striving or fighting to get more things. When changes are made, they are to improve the quality of one's current existence, often by removing disruption".

I love Si 💛

sounds like a yoga guru , i have these moments i can perform them but not my focus even though i have seen the improvements over time now in my 40s and even the need for it good explanation

You do go into it a bit at the end of the video, but one has to clarify where how the past focused perception of SJs connects to the basic functioning of Si as you describe it: Because Si wants harmony and pleasure, it wants things to slow down and not change too hastily, so that it can be incooperated (or left out) from their accepted environment.

Dude you explained it perfectly

Just stumble upon Yr channel today and am liking it! This is my 3rd video after istj and Se. You gave a very good archetypal description of Se, which is a warrior in its healthy form, and a hedonist in its unhealthy form (paraphrasing here). Do you have one for Si? I think the example can help this information stick better. Thanks.

I had an epiphany some days back and it was that Si is like homeostasis addiction, and basically as you say about bringing things, sensations, back into harmony. I have a hard time grasping Si conceptually. I think because I use Ni-Se, and find that more relatable to my own experience. It's maybe that my Se can't physically grasp it, that I had to come up with an Ni image for it, but I do think it may best be described as a homeostasis addiction. I look at all the cognitive functions as addictive modes of thinking, and that one I think could be relevant to how the body can depend on homeostasis, and that these individuals perhaps have a higher biological propensity or cognitive wiring for building and maintaining it.

Insightful observations. Thanks Jack!

I've been mapping out Keirseys types with the Socionics functions and IM SO MAD THAT THIS IS SO FREAKING OBVIOUS BUT I MISSED IT... If you look at the space time continuum, sensation operates in the space portion of it. Intuition operates in the time portion of the concept. I've given the ISTJ the functions Ti-Se-Ni-Fe and the ISTP the functions of Si-Te-Fi-Ne and it still works because of the inherent lack of awareness of the outcomes that artisans possess. I'll have to do some more testing but so far it seems like you are correct towards the xSxP types all leading with sensation (ESxPs with Se and ISxPs with Si). The ISTP craftsman refining the material they're crafting. I'll watch the ISTP video next but just wanted to say thanks for being stubborn :D

Re introverting functions "refining": do you see the refining as idiosyncratic?

psychological types isnt the center of jungs ouevre anyway, but in our community people think that

Jack getting aggressive! I love it: ) 👍🏼

Excellent video

Video starts at 3:08

Is the imaginary sensory external as well?

I had to watch this a few more times and i have to say thank you , even though im aware of the refining nature of the introverted functions, i guess due to polr te i didn't know which source to trust like jungs version and its connection with introversion is still consistent with this, but its thru a certain lens and degree , nevertheless the clarity or distinction of proselytizing forward the term refining hermetically sealed that jar for me (TY) because aside from implicit and explicit memory (declarative and procedural) and the fact that there are different kinds of memory, like for example with mike said about the introverted functions being listening functions ,well then that would point to memory functions if they are to retain and interpret, (like fi sentimental memories) (perhaps due to having ni-ti i can remember when i had my thoughts, how i came to those thoughts and conclusions.) Perhaps due to a visual thinking & internal monologue i can especially remember things like my dreams and conversations that i find important (and everything i have read or heard even if my recall is slow because i have to trigger it ) But i can remember visons, premonitions i can remember everything that happened in my past and other peoples past due to what they confide in me , things i hear randomly from strangers I absorb everything , i can remember movies music i darn near have if i don't eidetic memory , history feels like its happened to me, because of how much history i have studied. History was one of my favorite subjects in school aside from psychology, philosophy, biology, mythology, math(mostly economics and chaos theory and probability) when i didn't have to show my work , , theology, music & art , English lit and occult knowledge but that part was my independent studies i was allowed to do being in the gifted program my memory is part of why i suffer from cptsd but for the love of me i cannot remember algebra formulas or math procedures, like i can retrain it while im doing it, but when it has no direct use its gone (im not bad at math i can arrive at the answer in my head i just cannot show my work let alone reproduce the requested method or even walk someone through mine so all of the introverted functions would be memory, which means they all leave an impression, or imprint, so there's no way that could be Soley memory like personality hacker suggest or homeostasis in full because someone's ego functions would be their homeostatic or planetary alignment or comfort . so si is more like the refining of ones skills , like cooking getting the flavor just right , or getting a half a second down on you timing for swing, or art , singing, even sex , speaking not cs.j experiencing but to some degree it would be reining ones sensory experience , which if you think about could and very well would lead someone unhealthy or undeveloped to become like how jung seen in his patients for me my memory of experienced life outside my head is like one long day where i take naps so its a solid time stream easy to track and predict what i need to prepare for if patterns reoccur that i wish to avoid so i can perceive and discern whats coming towards me or mine . so thank you for this distinction

If Si is external, than what do you call sensing hunger, thirst, pain, sleepiness, etc???? That seems to be the most logical definition/counterpart to hearing/seeing/smelling/tasting touching. If I am wrong, then what is the "real and correct" term for hunger/thirst/sleepiness/pain etc?

5:18 how does it work when you ask an ENxJ to tell you what they did a day before or 2 days before, with as many details as they can, they cant remember any details, unlike if you compare that to an ISxJ they can recall 50 time more details from a day before, how can we actually conclude that Si isnt connected to memory than if there is an obvious correlation, its like saying guns dont kill people if you dont shoot them.

I find it bizarre when people equate memory or nostalgia with Si types, as though others don't or can't do them. Nostalgia has as much time do with Fi, and any type can have a good memory. The idea Se is more about wanting to expand and accumulate ever more experience in the outside world whereas Si is more about wanting to refine, finesse, delve into the subtleties of a more limited range of experiences more focussed on the subject is interesting, someone on another channel suggests Se is more about wanting to have shared experiences rather than necessarily new ones, whereas Si is more focussed on the subjective for the individual which is a another interesting take on it. The difference seems to be that Se remembers primarily what's personally important, whereas Si retains more of that which isn't necessarily, but in it's subjective impressions of the present can easily miss some of the objective detail. The Se/Si does seem to cause a lot of confusion, misunderstandings.

Epicurus, SLI?

So can it be safe to say that memory in general is really tailored to each cognitive function? So Si doms - best at detailed Si memory. Se doms - best at accumulation, power Se type memory Ni doms - best at memory of holistic trends and meanings and so on...

So here's a question, you say that si isn't necessarily clinging onto the past and freaking out when things deviate from it "what works before will work again". Now I'll admit that was my understanding of it because it matched my experiences with istj and isfj family members pretty well. Plenty of acedotal experiences to back that up. So if si isn't directly connected with adherence to the past and reluctance to let go then maybe it's a common byproduct of the need to refine. If one prefers to take a sensation and refine it rather than expand upon it wouldn't it make sense the outward behavioral manifestation of that would seem to others as reluctance to try new experiences?

Jung was writing about '"introverted sensation", not about "introverted sensing". Those two perceptions are different, have some correlations, but different. Further investigation needed on these topics. I am not here to argue with you, i've found your content just about a few minutes ago surfing on youtube.

Is experiencing overwhelm with too many options a symptom of Si-polar?

Jung was very confused about Si, which is for me a further proof that he was an Ni dom and not INTP as many people seem to think. Ni doms rarely even understand the concept of Si cosiness, it is too far from their own experience to even conceptualize it. His descriptions always reminded me of someone trying to catch a very fleeting thought, making it out more mysterious than it actually is.

There does seem to be an emphasis though among Si base types and maintaining existing systems. It does very much seem related to tradition and maintaining established norms, customs, ways of doing things. The counterpoint to this is Ne which wants to try novel approaches and experiences. And together they balance each other. Do you disagree?

0:23 😂😂😂

So socionics isn't more close interpretation of Jung as many socionics people claimed to me

9:40 this sounds not boring for me but i hate it lol.. no for slow ppl bruh

Ni ignoring makes ILE seems so much like LSE it's a little disturbing.

It still sounds weird to me that ISTP (TiSe) is rigid and forcing rules on people but ISTJ (SiTe) is harmonious and easy going. It's the opposite in MBTI.

Introverted sensers are hobbits and I'm okay with that

You contradict yourself. When you check if the sensation you are receiving is harmonious, makes you feel balanced, you're checking within yourself..checking against some peaceful.or.comfortable experiences you have had in the past....thereby making the whole process internal or introverted.

All of these quality definitions were from the sardines with the pasta from yesterday … your wifu doesn’t understand the secret

Si = Hobbits

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