its incredible how pincurchin was more useful than the iron leaves itself

Iron Leaves? I hope they come back.

This was such a great pincurchin moveset guide and showcase, you've really outdone yourself Moxie

It's weird that this is the Paradox legendary that got its Psychic type as the signature move when the other 5 DLC legendary Paradoxes got signature moves that weren't the shared type (Psychic and Dragon). It should've gotten a grass signature move that was boosted in electric terrain.

Here's how you buff Iron Leaves: - Trade a bit of attack for Speed instead - Replace Grass with Rock - Make it Urshifu That would make it solid i think

You know it's a terrible Pokémon when he doesn't glaze it in the intro...

If its signature ability was a 100 BP Razor Leaf it would have been usable.

actually the giga impact magical leaf set got me to 3 billion elo +6 252+ SpA Miracle Seed Quark Drive Tera Grass Beads of Ruin Iron Leaves Helping Hand Magical Leaf vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Incineroar: 242-285 (119.8 - 141%) -- guaranteed OHKO

The concept of a Pokemon that can take unique advantage of multiple terrains is genuinely really cool. It's just a shame that it wasn't executed the best with Iron Leaves.

Iron Leaves did one cool thing for me, which was getting traded for a Landorus.

There’s no Iron Leaves in VGC There’s no Iron Leaves in VGC

0:42 I don't know if it was intentional or not but Iron Leaves' face being covered like Mike Wazowski the entire time you were talking shit about it in the moveset guide is so funny to me. Mon is so bad that it doesn't even have enough dignity to have its face shown.

i've noticed that mediocre attackers are a Lot harder to make work than mediocre support mons cuz there's just less u can do with them

I really thought iron leaves would be decent if tapu koko came back but that damage output was so depressing.

It should have gotten a Grass signature move and Psyblade should have been the Paradox Musketeers' common Psychic stab

I love how you are genuinely confused while talking abouit this mon, like "what were they thinkng?" energy, it's fucking great

"haha oh funny an "i dont care" bit" *hears the word cut mid syllable before the ad read* "Oh he was serious"

Iron Leaves: *exists* Amoongus, Rillaboom, Ogrepon: Bro thinks he’s on the team 😭😭😭😭😭

The second you said pincurchin i was tuned all the way in. I love seeing competitive pincurchin usage. Forget the iron leaves. Show me the urchin with its ballsack on its face.

This video was proof that you should make a Pincurchin guide

Video starts at 0:00

I wish the iron swords of Justice were part fairy instead

Iron leaves is kinda like Urshifu if it sucked. Yeah that’s it it’s pretty embarrassing to even compare them but hey what can I do

YES FINALLY!!! IVE BEEN WAITING SO LONG FOR A PINCURCHIN GUIDE!!!

It’s weird that on one hand it sucks but on the other hand in the event raids it’s an absolute menace this thing is an enigma

The future goats are so borked compared to the past cats it's actually crazy. Even with that insane signature move I hardly see any Boulder, let alone the other two.

- Psychiatrist: "Iron Leaves does not exists, it can't hurt you". - Literally every single meta Pokémon right now: "I'll be damned, you're right!".

The other day on ladder I ran into Tera Normal Quick Attack Iron Leaves. I wish I was making this up

Magnificent intro

they should make berries that let you by pass resistences like tinted lens for type

I can highly appreciate the mons named after stands, I’m glad I’m not the only one

I cant imagine the poor souls who find moxie on ladder actually manage to win but he was running an iron leaves team. Talk about a false sense of accomplishment haha.

That was certainly one of the intros of all time

I wanna point out that a plus 2 leaf blade wouldn’t have killed that Cresselia even if it was a crit or the hit was super effective. 😐

Hey at least it can be used on every type of terrain which is neat

I think we all want to see that “mystic magical “ set now 😂😂

I know Iron Leaves can be seen as bad, but it's at least nice to have a guide on it ngl. Thx Moxie!

It’s kind of funny seeing how bad Iron Leaves actually is 😂 But I would love to see a vid for new team builders on how to decide how to spread EVs when building a team and how to plan for a good chunk of meta love the content ❤

Honestly on the coaching set i think you should go harder on the support with quash and quick guard and just have leaf blade as a source of okay damage. Its still not great but its decent support next metagross.

Vileplume video next?

I think iron leaves would have potential to be good if it was much more of a glass canon. If it’s defenses (and maybe special attack) were lowered and those points invested into its attack and speed as well as psyblade either having a 100% smg increase or maybe having some more unique effect instead of the terrain boost (hear me out -an ally switch at the beginning of the turn that deals damage whenever iron leaves gets to move)

Of course it was not going to get much damage if you fixate too much on using booster to get speed that you lower your attack EVs for it. Let it keep its attack. Who cares if it is not as fast? You got several other pokemon for Speed control, so let someone else use Booster. With that same Pincurchin as a partner, you can turn Iron Leaves into a Psyblade Wallbreaker using Quark Drived Attack + Life Orb + Tera Psychic (or a defensive tera if you prefer to survive). The idea here is to use it to destroy bulky slower pokemon with either Psyblade, Leaf Blade or Sacred Sword. It deals very heavy damage under electric terrain and life orb. If you need speed, you have plenty of speed control mons or just use another mon for speedy KOs. Way better role than forcing it to speed up and lose so much damage in the process.

I like the nicknames on the pokemon. Very fitting 👌

I think it's neat design-wise

This team needs Raging Bolt with Rising Voltage. I have a similar Electric Terrain team with Pincurchin + Iron Bundle as Electric Terrain setters and Raging Bolt + Iron Boulder as attackers. Raging Bolt on electric terrain using Rising Voltage is effectively a 182 Base Power move, and hits like a truck. I considered Iron Leaves over Iron Boulder (to fill a similar secondary attacker role while not overlapping ground weakness) but haven't tested it out yet. Also, somebody should be using Electric Seed for a defense boost. My Iron Bundle has Quark Drive boosting Defense + Electric Seed and he just walls physical attackers like it's nobody's business.

What I'm taking away from this is that Pincurchin is better than Iron Leaves.

I tried it for a bit with manual Electric Terrain from Prankster Thundurus and Life Orb Psyblade, and it was fun, Psyblade would nuke a lot of mons in the terrain, especially if I got a SD off. But then I just did the exact same idea but with Iron Boulder and it was just better.

This video makes me want to find a niche for leaves. Some wacky set that can put in work. Something like AV atk boost with prankster tailwind or multi terrain. Then again, my competitive experience is watching KZfaqrs, lol I'm not just salty that they made such a cool design, only for it to suffer with a bad name and type.

Fun fact : a friend asked me to get a Rank master ribbon on its shiny Virizion few days ago. I was kind of sad looking at its option and ended up using a basic choice scarf set to put it in one of my teams. And to my biggest surprise, Virizion weirdly was the MVP in the 2 matchs I did. I guess Virizion kind of have a niche of being a grass type (and thus immune to powder moves), able to outspeed unboosted BS 135 speed with a scarf. Not a great niche by any mean but... Ended up somewhat useful in my case. Iron leaves seems just worse however, because... Being immune to Spore and Rage powder doesn't feel interesting at all when it comes with a double weakness to Pollen puff... Might get a tiny niche in GS cup in some Miraidon's team, maybe ? I mean, it's still decently bulky, so you could adapt its spread to fit some of your needs. Definitely shouldn't build around it, but could be the last of a very specific puzzle, I feel.

Iron leaves is fun, it works fine on most terrain teams but the problem is that there is one terrain setter and it doesn't do well on psychic terrain teams with indeedee

I'm just disappointed this is the only Grass-type future Paradox Pokemon. Imagine a future mon that's visibly partially biological, or a living greenhouse or something.

They shoulda made the signature move grass instead of psychic. Maybe give it the side effect if being 2x against grass that way you can beat enemy Rillaboom and ogrepon while benefitting from a better terrain option

really enjoyed this pincurchin showcase

The only paradox pokemon moxie can't make look good

I can here the sadness in moxies voice😭

Awesome Pincurchin showcase video

i kinda like iron leaves leaf blade nights slash razor claw. with iron jugules and dragon cheer/electric terrain/tailwind.

Iron leaves did one cool thing for me and it got KOed by a lando-T U-turn which allowed me to get Choice specs Flutter mane in without it taking any damage.

The go beyond iron bundle hits trough protect?!??!

I’m glad I wasn’t the only person who found difficulty using this thing

i love the idea of watching you trying to make a terrible pokemon work! is there any chance well get to see more videos like this?

Love the lack of confidence you feel in this pokemon, like we all feel 😂

The I'm gonna throw up part 😅 9:42 and the rage quit 12:01

Musics still not in the description...

i love the whole team being jojo references

It sucks in doubles but in singles with hazards its pretty good

Who tought him was a good idea I also love how no one is going to argue bc we know it sucks

I really wish the line wasn't psychic type, esp in this meta. It doesn't have like Dusk's ability. Not having a great signature move sucks too, esp when the other Paradox legends have great everything.

Poor Virizion, it's even bad as a Paradox Pokemon. It was easily the worst Sword of Justice or w/e the hell they're actually called, and it's easily the worst Paradox Pokemon of the Swords as well. I wonder if we'll get an Iron Keldeo? Well, if we do, then Iron Leaves is still going to be the most booty out of the four.

That’s sucks that he stacks no paper to the ceiling and doesn’t ride on 23 inch chrome😔

with how hard it was to catch, it should be better

This mon only has 1 physical psychic move.

At 10:19 Why did you say that leaf blade was super effective against Cresselia when it wasn't.

Weird that they gave it a signature psychic move when its 2 counterparts got a signature steel and rock type move respectively. They did this mon dirty

Unironically best use for leaves is for coaching

Gigantic W on the Pokémon names

“Iron Leaves should leave” - A really wise man

Bro cooked this damn thing 😂

What boulder is is what leaves should’ve been.

I've only ever seen someone on ladder use Iron Leaves as a Booster Speed fast Coaching mon

His opponent probably thought they were going to win against Iron Leaves too. That's why they rage quat at the end. 😂

why isnt it's signature move grass type? All of the paradox beasts/swords had their moves be their primary type, except for Iron Leaves. It wouldve been cool for it to have a strong physical grass STAB that couldve gotten stronger in psychic terrain

But Moxie Boosted, have you ever heard of the Iron Defense - Leaf Storm set? It doesn't work

Wait, goofy idea. A eletric terrain team with iron leaves, pincurchin and CLAWITZER (if that thing is even in the paldean dex lol). Clawitzer has terrain pulse which in eletric terrain is a 150 base power eletric move that still gets the boost from eletric terrain plus the boost from clawitzer's ability. Then, add something like incineroar and you have a water/grass/fire core. WE COOKIN 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

If it was 108 speed, this would’ve been a different story.

I think fast couching with dragonite entei could be really good

Someone has never used the Tera Bug Quash Iron Leaves set

I think this team can work but I feel that Landorus hasn’t been very cohesive to the team very much I’ve remade this team (to the best of my ability) with Rhyperior and swapped out Cloak for Sash on bundle and it feels much more consistent. I also decided to have gravity over imprison just for Megahorn/Hydro Pump/Thunder Shenanigans I’d love to see a return to the Iron Leaves team cause I genuinely enjoyed what you guys cooked up with the WP Set

Imagine how bad the mon needs to be for Marcos record with such low energy xD

you never miss with your thumbnails

Leaves would be kinda heat if it got Sharpness as a hidden ability... but not sure how redeeming "it's a better Gallade" really is

It’s far better suited to singles IMO where it can get away with not running Protect

I'm super curious as to how electric terrain boost Iron Leaves attacks besides from activating quark drive. You said it boost his attack but I don't think it does? Has anyone checked?

My power boy. He deserved better.

"It didnt kill with a super effective leaf blade on cresselia" . . . . Ah yes Cress my favorite grass weak pure psychic type. 😂

"instead of boosting yourself you can boost a better pokemon" is wild

OG Virizion looking better and better.. gotta go hunt a pink onebsomehow tho..

i like how pissed off you are about iron leaves

Does anyone know if when you send an aoe attack on a pokemon while the other is protecting itself, the attack takes maximum damage?

While i agree that it definetly should have been better i feel like you're being a bit too harsh on it. I made an Iron Leaves team with Life orb and honestly it's been doing pretty well. Psyblade definetly should have gotten another unique effect tho. I wish it healed like Bitter Blade or smthg