Refreshing to see some 616 Tony Start not being a total wanker

@@matthewriley2115 Hes not if written properly

@@JP-kp6xv rare to find that kind of thing these days ;-;

@@vanconojl Sadly

@@matthewriley2115 IKR? Civil War ruined this man for me.

I would pay to watch that in theatre

@@firestuka8850 same here

don’t know much when it comes to comics but i do know that would be a good read

@@montymont4192 It would have 4 pages of comic and 20+ of just pure Red

there would be a base full of corpses left

he is a god on earth honestly.

Honestly it takes a lot to even get him to go serious

“If you think that’s something,wait till you get a load of me” ….Thor.

@@jimlampkins3299 Nah, pissed Tony is way scarier than pissed Thor. Thor will beat your ass and then call it a day. Tony will find every weakness you have and use them to construct your personal version of hell and then lock you in there until he decides you've learned your lesson.

@@conduit64 and he will do ANYTHING to make that lesson stick. we're talking about a man who once created a machine that blasted nuclear energy into the earth's crust, costing billions of dollars for 1 simple reason. he wanted to know what the center of the earth looked like. the cost? he destroyed a LOT of things all over the planet. didn't care. got to see the center of the earth.

Yeh, they should focus more on his good side instead of constantly turning him into an asshole, addict or a villain.

@@krzysztofkozakiewicz3920 Tbh Tony is supposed to be all of those things while still being good. While I do like the MCU version of Tony more. This and how he is generally portrayed within the comics is far more in line with the character as self evident as that may seem. The MCU's portrayal of the character has made even long time comic readers forget what kind of person he actually was and still is. While it has been awhile since I've read the Civil War issue in the MCU it was pretty obvious that Tony was almost 100% in the right. Yet in the comics Tony was portrayed as an antagonist. It's not a matter of constantly turning him into an asshole, addict, or villain. Tony has almost always been each of those things from the very start.

@@mee091000 I know he was like that, but many times they are making him redeem himself, but a few comics later he goes back to his old habits because writers don't have any other idea what to do with him. Back in 80-2000's it at least looked like Tony was trying to become a better person and each downfall felt real, nowadays it's "I'm a good guy now. Now I'm a megalomaniac asshole. Now I'm good again. And now I can't stop drinking.".

@@krzysztofkozakiewicz3920 Imo those moments of redemption are just times where he is reining himself in.

​@krzysztofkozakiewicz3920 You're exactly right. In the days of Michelene(who I would consider the architect of modern Iron man) you saw from his perspective that he was at his core a good man...with tough habits to break. It was often outside factors that Tony would try to handle alone that took him to a breaking point that would cause him to act harshly or even turn back to drinking. Even as much of a villain as they portrayed him in civil war...he wasn't twirling his goatee as he played his role. We saw every bit of his inner turmoil and his devastation over the fallout. The failure of many of today's writers is forgetting Tony's road to self improvement. The end of the Extremis Arc ties this up so perfectly with the recurring theme of Tony trying to become a man he can look at in the mirror. It's better for writers to remember Tony is among the cream of the crop heroes on the planet...and he does it for the RIGHT reasons.

Ultimate universe. The avengers blamed themselves for og spideys death so much that they all were a bit over protective of miles. Cap wanted him to hang it up out of fear of losing another spiderman but made a deal with him to basically train with cap to continue being spiderman. And Tony is as you see

I like it, it’s nice to see one that doesn’t just depict Tony as an ass or drunk.

This the Tony I’d luv to have around he don’t play 😂😂😂

@@I_saw_that956facts I said the same thing like I know it’s his natural instinct to be a bit of a jerk at times but damn it’s nice to see him actually take something seriously every once in awhile

​@@obsidianfrost9514 this isn't Ultimate Universe. That's 616 Iron Man

Even then he could still find you, satellite imagery across the world, quantify irregularities across the planet, send micro drones across the globe to all of them, and ping back one that finds the target.

@@entropyOTD You could live in a different dimension and Tony would still find you.

Like a futurist boogeyman on Supervillain's under there bed.

True Tony started as a Earth billionaire now his businesses are even in planets and dimensions

pissing off batman except he has no issue with killing

I mean... Spider Man who is not talking is straight up not Spider Man, it's Demon Man and he's about to go Demon Time.

He’d be even more lucky if Spider-Man didn’t have the symbiote

if it was silent spider-man, his ass is going into a coma, symbiote spider-man, he gonna get folded like an origami crane

Lucky it wasn't goku

Spider-man is a great character, but no, Iron Man is way, WAY stronger than Spider-man if he's decided all bets are off.

Everything changed when the Stark Nation Attacked.

They forgot about air… oh wait, Tony always succeeds against that.

Where was Queens Spider-Man during all this?

Dead this is the ultimate universe

⁠@@obsidianfrost9514nah. Tony’s armor is different in the ultimate universe. I think that universe got scrapped too. Miles has been chilin in the regular dimension since then

@@obsidianfrost9514this is long after miles joins the main universe

​@@obsidianfrost9514yeah, not ultimate. Marvel only recently restarted the ultimate universe. During battleworld miles and his family get folded into 616 where he has been for years. The only other survivor of the ultimate universe was reed richards aka the maker i believe.

I know it's dc but imagine If he was friends with any of the bat family instead

​@@StonerExpress well an equal version would be kid flash-bat family i guess

@@StonerExpress bro, one guy shot up nightwing, and every hero on earth jumped him lmao

​@@dragonk5543what's the comic?

@@namedless What are you talking about??

Exactly. That, and also the clueless, jerk-ass Tourette-syndrome Iron Man with the "I want to make the world better, so I gave everyone superpowers". It's the possible worst adaptation of RDJ's Tony. I can't stand that one either.

True MCU tony really felt like the most complete hero's journey

Yeah I like the idea of Miles being close with Tony and Misty. Instead of just Peter it shows how close he is to other heroes.

Tell me about it.

Good to know people have not read a single iron man comic are literally trapped in what iron man did 20 years ago it's insane

tony also has multiple AI who are as strong if not stronger than the Accessor to "keep him company"

@@immapotato1 Yeah, Assessor is NOTHING to him.

so its like itachi's tsukiyomi dem

Some fuckin "i have no mouth and i must scream" type shit 💀💀💀

​@@rainbow_vader definition of what happened to the Accessor.

He's not wrong In a DC crossover Frank managed to scare THE JOKER

Stark Knight? Man, I haven't seen your face since Fernando's last video on Tony.

How is Mysterio and No Way Home Tony's fault. Beck was clearly a maniac so tony is justified in firing him. Vulture would be more on Tony's hands since he could have just hired him instead, but you can't blame him for not trusting private companies to have access to that shit.

How is Mysterio and No Way Home Tony's fault. Beck was clearly a maniac so tony is justified in firing him. Vulture would be more on Tony's hands since he could have just hired him instead, but you can't blame him for not trusting private companies to have access to that shit.

How is Mysterio and No Way Home Tony's fault. Beck was clearly a maniac so tony is justified in firing him. Vulture would be more on Tony's hands since he could have just hired him instead, but you can't blame him for not trusting private companies to have access to that shit.

weather Tony was justified for firing Beck or not, it doesn’t change the fact that Tony caused Mysterio. Something right you do can lead to bad things which still makes them your fault. Even a good person can have moments when they’re a fool or a jerk. Like how Tony blamed peter for the fiery disaster when it was his fault for ignoring and disregarding Peter. Tony left Peter with false pretenses and false hope of being trained and prepared to join the avengers but Tony ignored him and contradicted himself. Tony told Peter to up his game but also to stay to the ground. Tony tried to stop Peter from becoming a better hero instead of helping him reach his potential and acted like he was in charge of him when he wasn’t. Tony destroyed Peter’s self esteem and made him out as some reckless child who doesn’t think before acting instead of taking responsibility for what he caused with his own inaction. But that’s really the writers fault for making MCU Spider-Man and Ironman simp instead of the inspiring young man who stands up for himself and will do what he knows is right even if someone like Ironman tells him it’s wrong. Peter’s motivation for chasing vulture should’ve been because it was right and the heroes above him are ignoring him instead of trying to impress Tony and join the avengers and not caring if Tony will be mad at him for disobeying him. And Far From Home makes it look like Beck only became evil because Tony fired him after he stole credit for Beck’s hologram technology and gave it a name he thought was disrespectful. And the fact that Mysterio’s minions were all former Stark employees who hated Tony only proves that Tony wasn’t such a great guy. Yeah Tony was a hero and a good man but that’s not all he was. Everyone has more than one side to them. Both Homecoming and Far From Home have villains and many criminals whose motivations come directly from Tony and in both cases, it’s a result of Tony disregarding the middle class people. Vulture, Mysterio, and the events of No Way Home are all ramifications of Tony’s bad decisions. If Tony didn’t steal Vulture’s job and leave him in bankruptcy, Tomes wouldn’t have become a criminal. If Beck was crazy, Tony still should have fired him but shouldn’t have stolen credit for Barf and leave Beck with nothing. Then Beck might not have become Mysterio, Peter wouldn’t have been framed and exposed, and No Way Home wouldn’t have happened and Peter wouldn’t have lost everything. And I’m not trying to cause hate for Ironman. I’m saying that having an Ironman 4 based on this idea would be a perfect way of closing Tony’s story like Steve’s with a perfect sort of redemption arc

Not to mention the fact that he's also a quick thinker and prepares for anything that may come his way. Also it's really handy when a master in technology goes against someone using technology.

As a fnaf fan. I understood this reference 😂

Me a helldiver:Tell me automaton ai scum, do you feel fear?

AI: foolish human, I can't feel fear or pain is not part of my programming Iron Man: well then it's time to upgrade, let me just stall a little patch

"Tell me does an android like yourself ever experiences FEAR??"

Or the kid of the team. This is ultimate universe so they're peter died

@@lazyprinny3265 Nah, this is 616. And Miles and Tony were teammates from their Avenger days from the ANAD (All New All Different) era.

Tony actually got knocked into a coma.

Big Naruto energy

He’s not a stepdad He’s the dad that stepped up and stepped on the Assessor

Not peter but definitely miles MCU peter dad too

I don’t think Peter likes tony and when he was cool with the guy, Peter was already a grown man, and married so there relationship be four he switched side in civil war wasn’t like miles and tony or mcu peter and tony. Tony wasn’t a father figure to peter.

Yeah, but could Punisher beat Quantum?

For this enemy I think Tony was better equipped lol

And "IRONICALLY"... That's what the Weak (Companies) people in reality Want!

Acesor will be the first guy killed by captain America

I mean he always have been a good person in comics, even during the times where he is considered to be at his absolute worst

@BigK13372 Idk man, writers tend to make him a genuinely shitty person often which is annoying

@@bread5384 The times writer portray him as a genuinely shitty person were either during his time as member of the Illuminati (which he took accountability for showing he is still good), Avengers vs. X-Men (which honestly everybody was depicted as shitty in the event, including CAPTAIN AMERICA), Superior Iron Man (which was because of the effect of some inversion ray that makes characters act the opposite), and The Crossing (which is completely non-canon and nobody wants to think about that shit).