But doesn't frank also have a brain injury/skull fracture. Cap was just frozen.

@@Antwannnn frank watched his family get gunned down in front of him. the WORST cap got was missing out on living with his girlfriend and thinking that his best friend died.

@@SCP-Dr_Bright Can we count Cap witnessing the holocaust while he was modelling for American Audiences?

@FailedNorSeling yes but nothing happens to him

@@SCP-Dr_Bright Cap also lost everything and everyone that was important to him. If I was frozen for 70 years I'd be pretty bummed

He kills people who steal 5$. Sometimes he gets out of line. Just cut a hand off bro.

A black and white approach to view a world in that is perpetually gray makes no sense

@@brandocalrissian3294 so he's batman

Yet he's worked with ( and dated) people ELKTRA, Deadpool, and many other reformed criminals Frank has knowingly worked with criminals that literally under his "CODE" Most of the time it's just disguised under his want for conflict and challenge, He Avenged his family YEARS AGO but but now just goes about killing anyone who steps out of line To be honest he's just a dude that's SO FAR GONE

@@ChadlikeMonsters Batman doesn't kill. Punisher is more like a Rorschach that actually served in the military.

Marvel is shit sometimes, that's why.

Didn't they show up by themselves?

They are in the middle of a war and need people They expected Frank to not behave like an animal for once

For plot.

@@papaoso8340*hero

Sounds like something the comedian would say

except he really doesn't get anything done. he can kill entire crime syndicates and a new one will replace them in a week or two. Frank KNOWS this and has admitted as much on several occasions. even with supervillians...some new schmuck will put on the mask. Frank Castle kills because he LIKES killing. He WANTS to live in a state of perpetual war. the dead family is just an old excuse. but despite that level of insanity, he's not utterly without morals. As for his relation with Cap...Lots of killers have "soft spots" Hannibal Lecter was a good freind to Barney his orderly, who was highly competant and professional at his job and always treated the mass murderer with courtesy. In return, Lecter halped barney get his degree through correspondance courses he was taking. When Lecter finally made his escape..it was with items he obtained when Barney wasn't working. After the escape, he sent Barney a thank you note and a generous monetary tip. For that matter, in the last book, barney is the last one to see Lecter and Clarice Starling(throughoughly brainwashed and now Lecter's lover....yes really. it's why Jodi Foster refused to do the sequel))at a concert in Argentina...They recognized each other, and Barney, who was no fool, left the country IMMIDIATELY. Until the author says otherwise, he's still alive. So yeah..Frank castle respects Cap. idolizes him, even. he's a soldier, hero and a legitiamately good man. It's even mentioned in a tie in comic he know perfectly well what he was doing when he "fell on his sword" by killing those two supervillains..becasue he could'nt stand to see his hero cross that line. But at the end of the day, he's STILL a homicidal nutjob, too.

@@isaiahshy2406 he right you know 🤣

@@montrealstewart8339sure, a man with no morals must be the best solution.

Ok but frank doesn’t do it to save or protect any on he legitimately just like to kill he kills criminals because in his mind he doesn’t have to feel sorry or regret

Punisher fights heroes all the time, including Spider-Man himself amd most famously Daredevil. He idolizes Captain America

Cap always has been his hero he'd never fight his hero

@@clnblk7773Spider-Man is a menace and the daredevil is a self righteous half measure who has it coming. Frank and moon knight get along swimmingly, mostly due to moon knight understanding that the punisher deals with the stufff that would give Spider-Man, dare devil and the other “heroes” life ruining ptsd by the majority.

@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus OK.

@@clnblk7773 OK

Seriously. There are literally people out there that'd hear about Frank's family and scoff, "Sounds like karma to me, babykiller!" and then be confused when they wake up choking on their own teeth. That's the America Frank came home to.

​@@silverblade357It's the amerikkka every soldier sells their soul for. A country that couldn't piss on them if they were on fire, doing the dirty work of the white elitists like an authorized criminal.

​@silverblade357 the thing is frank would never harm and innocent if he did he would end himself l

​@silverblade357 the thing is frank would never harm and innocent if he did he would end himself l

@@gabrijelaziza9768 You think Frank would endgame himself because he busted someone in the mouth? What?

Cap killed bad guys out of necessity, not amorality, in human terms. People died to save a great many more, IRL, and real surviving soldiers have to battle this dichotomy every day, and many suffer PTSD about what they were trained, and had, to do on tour in Afghanistan, Gulfs 1and 2, Iran and Bosnia/Serbia. We armchair warrior who never put someone on the business-end of a gun for whatever reason will never know if that trigger could be pulled. We think we would, for family and friends, home and country, to save lives, but war *is* hell, and I think we might see it come around to home and hearth again very soon from both domestic and foreign agencies...

yeah his problem shouldnt be " you kills o go to hell" but rather he takes it way too far or even outright tourtures before killing his dedication to his mission over his own or his teams wellbeing micro i think left him cause punisher pushed him away when he started to get "soft" in franks eyes

@@ethanthamouse6695I mean diamondback was a murderer right? If so I can see why Castle did him in

Frank's code is he punishes those who prey upon the innocent. Innocent in his mind is a law abiding citizen. Somebody who agrees to adhere to the rules of a society for the sake of relative peaceful coexistence. Beating on your wife? Frank might not kill you but you'll never be able to open a soda every again because he'll ensure you won't be able to lay a hand on anyone. You kill? You'll get yours if he sees you. You rape? You mess with children? You sell drugs? These are either morally reprehensible, or a cog in the crime machine. Drugs are always a path to cash and power, and bad people exploit it, which does harm to the law abiding society mentioned above. So he'll kill them. I like the comic book sociopath Frank better than the Netflix adaptation of him being this rabid dog, foaming at the mouth for a kill. Frank isn't doing it because it's fun, or because it's calming some beast inside him. He's doing it because at his core, he feels it must be done. Frank is just a sanitation worker, and he's the only one qualified to do the work, because his moral compass doesn't shift. That's Frank.

@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674stiltman was a bank Robber that served his time in prison and became a hero. Punisher killed him no questions asked. He’s legitimately a monster.

@@Chiefteeth1 he was once hired to murder the falcon he’s not just a bank robber

You should see his brother The Scolder.

@@pTryceorl WAIT, HE HAVE A BROTHER?

@@pTryceorlPunisher’s cousin, the Teaser, is even worse, trust me

Yo forreal this man has family?

@@diomarius7445 oh yeah definitely he has a back up family

Even in this moment you see shades of that in his face. Punisher is insane for being the only one willing to stand on his morals and not work with criminals? Even cap doesn’t feel right about that and he can’t hit a defenseless man… punisher is a fighter regardless so there’s definitely more to him not hitting cap than him idolizing the man. Everyone idolizes cap because he does what is right no matter what, and if punisher is wrong for killing those criminals and cap is beating him up for it, then it must be the right thing to do. Captain America always does the right thing. And the MOMENT Steve starts to question his own actions as Cap, he’s already lost both the war and the symbol hee supposed to be. If he’s not sure he’s doing the right thing, what is he acting on?? What principles is he standing on so firmly? He’s no longer fighting to save innocents or defend the little guy, he’s fighting for himself. Regardless the reason they are fighting doesn’t matter and eventually all he can see are the consequences, which is when he surrenders. It just takes him way longer than it should have, he has to be a leader but first and foremost he is a good man. A good man isn’t expected to always do the right thing without knowing what that is but he can admit when he is no longer sure. Tony believes he is not a good man but that he is doing the right thing, and for him that’s enough.

Eh. cap was right though. I mean obviously everybody in and out of universe understands that because the world is not being run by Tony Stark and all the superheroes don't work for the government.

@@skoonimadooner464 obviously cap was “right” but I think the point of the story is that it isn’t that black and white. And cap was able to realize that at the end they were doing far more harm than good and essentially fighting for their right to cause unregulated harm. Cap surrendering at the end was the most “right decision” decision he made the entire story imo, just because it put a stop to the bleeding. The resistance was still strong without him, it was what he and the movement had grown to represent that I think Cap could no longer support

@@drballsballsballsI’d argue partially the contrary. We’ve seen other universes In which the authorities are able to get a full handle on superpowered beings, and rarely do they ever end well (substantial amounts of them seem to end up with genocide of one form or another, it seems actually). Ironically, giving up the fight is probably the one thing I don’t really agree with cap in this run.

@@forsociopoliticalstuff2629 I feel like he just realized the cost was more than the war was worth, if superheroes are really doing this much damage just to be able to operate however they want without regulation, maybe there shouldn’t be superheroes at all. Before he went over the edge, Tony only wanted to protect people as much as he could. He envisioned a world where there’s no collateral damage and people can feel genuinely safe when they see a superhero

Slavery used to be legal. It was illegal to help slaves.

Understatement of the damn millennium

​​@@jesterchase11 Ok and? What's your point?

@blade528 That not everyone uses critical thinking before asking questions. Thank you.

@@jesterchase11 It doesn't matter it still was fucked up and what does slavery even have to do with this?

I will never forget reading Max and getting the issue Ennis left, with no knowledge about that at the time. I was like "This is lukewarm trash, what the hell happened? The quality dropped like a rock." Then I found out Ennis had left. It was the moment I considered myself an Ennis fan.

@@BlazingOwnagerwhen did he finish his run on the series? I have volume 1 and have been wanting to get the others for quite some time. People can trash comics all they want….until they read something like Watchmen, Sin City, Spawn, and the Punisher Max series. I don’t want to see it get ruined, but I’d love to see The Punisher Max series get an animated run. I don’t want anything holding it back….I wanna see those pages come to life and put on a screen with passionate artwork and animation involved.

​@@noobie1890 I'm not sure which run or #, but it was the comic the Punisher went to Mexico to fight the Cartels. Which was a great concept, I was like 'Finally, this is a perfect peanut butter and jelly matchup.' And instead I got this watered down terrible shadow of the Ennis Punisher, which continued until the end of the series run with an incredibly stupid version of Kingpin and Elektra showing up. If you want my advice when you get to that issue, switch to the one-off Ennis books. The last one he did, where Frank is finally going after the last of the men who killed his family in prison, is pretty much the true ending to the Ennis run as far as I'm concerned. (Esp since they stupidly kill the knock-off not-Ennis Punisher at the end of his run).

You do realise MARVEL heroes are fine with killing, right? Not all of them but they do kill.

​@@Kronosfobi People should keep in mind that many marvel characters tolerate Deadpool and Moon Knight but not the Punisher. That kinda says a lot about him. Upd: "tolerate" might be a strong word. During Civil War Cap told Moon Knight that he wouldn't recruit him and would want him to stay out of the conflict because he deems Moon Knight a looney

@@greyish7212 As much as I like Deadpool, he is more of a menace than Punisher can ever be. Punisher specifically targets gangs and criminals while has a strict rule of not killing bystanders, civillians or cops. Deadpool doesnt give a shit on who dies as long as its not a kid. Deadpool was a villain, hell in this video he's even at the same group with the villains that see Iron Man as a threat. People tolerate Deadpool because he is a loud joyous idiot. If we ever look at their deeds however, Deadpool is a far bigger, loose gaping asshole.

@@Kronosfobi As I mentioned earlier, when I stated that I could see the Punisher's point of view... Yeah, sometimes you have no choice. Take the situation between Batman and the Joker... How many fictional people does that serial killing clown have to kill, before Batman finally puts an end to his reign of terror? And I can also imagine that during World War Two, Cap killed a bunch of Nazi Hydra soldiers on the battlefield, so his hands aren't that clean either. But it's one thing to kill a murderer who's trying to kill you, as opposed to killing an unarmed thief who's seeking your assistance.

@@greyish7212 I think the reason they don't tolerate the Punisher is because he's serious, he's not cracking jokes, or goofing around, he's getting down to business and taking out the trash, except in this case, I feel that he crossed the line... You don't kill thieves who are simply trying to talk to you.

I mean I wouldn't call WW2 a pretty war to be in.

@@l0sts0ul89It was bad but Vietnam was worse in a psychological way

​@sirtophamhatt4821 Also, in WW2 the Allied Soldiers were seen as war heroes. The Vietnam Soldiers were looked at as war criminals.

@@dhgmrz17 Yes at the end of the movie first blood Rambo explained well how Vietnam vets were treated compared to ww2 vets

@@l0sts0ul89No, but it was more of a “just war” from the Allied side. The vets going back home were all treated as heroes. You can’t say the same about Vietnam, even if Frank did his best to win it while keeping his men alive.

Baxter building?

Civil War Spidey was a legit powerhouse

still somehow got that much hurt being shot out of a building spideys took more damage in base and beat higher tier villians then those c tiers he nearly died to

@@nixo4108he had just got through brawling with Iron Man, and prior to that had been through some stressful events, he was mostly exhausted by the time he hit the sewers. The video cuts out a big portion of the fight with iron man. He was also being disoriented by a gas bomb from Jack o Lantern

@@MISTAWULFY still its spiderman he shoudlve smoked those c tiers hes been half dead before and beat the sinister 6 with little difficulty

I don't think he's insane. He's too consistent for the classification. He has a moral code and he sticks to it. Only kill criminals, never innocents.

@@GamerGrovyle I disagree. He is insane. But so is Captain America. They are both extremists following their own brand of justice as unfalteringly as machines. Captain America's justice is considered better than the Punisher's, but he is still an extremist.

Capt is his hero

@@daniell5740 yeah, but who is Cap's hero? He is just awesome!

@@michaelcraffuncle sam

So that makes him a good guy? Punishers a man whose let his "MORALITY" commit THOUSANDS of murders, he's no better than the criminals he hunts Just another psycho with a gun The dude avenge his family a LONG time ago but because of his want for conflict and challenge He even admits that you could have stopped , but the Vietnam war changed him ... The need for blood 🩸 If he really wanted to change things he could be trying to rehabilitate understand or even help the situation But instead he chooses to dedicate his life to becoming murderer... It's a no-win situation, there always be bad people, from now to the end of time It's an endless war The only result he gets is just putting more people the ground, And he knows it

@@YAHSHUA777 Hence why I say he's flawed. But at the same time, he goes after organized crime and unlike other heroes, say Batman, he makes sure that they stay gone.

@@dragonknight8020 But it's not always as simple as aiming a gun 🔫 and solving all their problems As long as there's human choice They're always be the choice of evil They don't just "STAY GONE" there'll be thousands more just like the other Guy What truly makes a difference is when people strive to be better than that Yes we have bad people in this world... That's not going away anytime soon But there are people who can change And people who choose to be good Nobody is defined just by what they do Which is why superheroes are special in general Cuz they inspire to be better🦸‍♀️

@@YAHSHUA777 ... My man, you're telling me you'd rather have someone like the Joker just keep running around? Keep breaking out? Keep killing?

@@dragonknight8020 No my Man, but that don't mean you go around killing anybody who steps out of line, There are the people like the joker out there... But there are also people like Mr freeze... Whose life hasn't been the best to them And if done right, they can have a second chance, Not saying that mr. Freeze's right for what he did InFact he should pay for his crimes But he still just as human as anybody in Gotham, who's been dealt a bad hand Even JOKER has that human right, Despite the horrible things he's done, he's still just has a man like any of us, Joker should be punished for what he's done But under the right conditions, with life waning and tearing us down... any of us can become like that ... And sadly there are many examples of that in real life

Smart move.👍🏾

not really that unpredictable, if you know how he thinks you know what’s up it’s just that he takes little to no time to do his thing , he doesn’t think , he punishes

Plunderer and Gold Bug's worst crimes are thievery. I wouldn't say they deserved that.

They portrayed him in this series a little more homicidal than any of his stand alone comic series ever did. This version is more like vigilante from peacemaker than the punisher.

Yeah I mean even cops have informants to catch bigger criminals… imagine if you had a dude on your team that decimated your information network because of his personal vendetta

Crazy to say someone with eidetic memory doesn’t remember the atrocities of a war he was in

Cap remembers the atrocities of war just damn fine, man. He recalls the horrors committed against the people’s of Europe during his time there, specifically the French, as he recounted the admiration he has for the country (completely shitting on the stupid Ultimate Cap who badmouthed the French). Cap didn’t forget anything. For him, WWII was just a few years ago.

honestly I think it would be interesting if the punisher had an arch nemesis who fought on the opposite side of the war. The arch nemesis would kill rich people, and cops which would be the opposite of the punisher but this time she would also be like him thinking that by killing all the corrupt rich people and cops the world would be better. It would be interesting since Frank Castle would have someone who despite have different views on how to fight evil would also understand him and his ptsd and also sympathize with frank castle's killing unlike the rest of the marvel universe.

@@blechb5317pretty sure nobody labeled Captain America as baby-killer

@@thegreyjedi9763 But he sure remembers men chewed up by machine guns and artillery, and the concentration camp victims he helped free. Different wars, different terrors, yet none are less valid than the others. The point is Cap maintained his belief in peoples’ capacity to be better, upholding his idealism no matter what. Frank never really upheld such ideals. There’s always been something twisted inside him, and Vietnam molded that into a killing machine who can’t live without more targets to hunt.

…what the utter fucking drugs you taking? That entire last half felt like you just made that up

Wait WHAT?!!???!!!!!!!!!

Wait what?

I know right.

ARE YOU KIDDING?

He tries to understand everyone even his villains and people who save his life

No the movie is far better the comics is trash

@@noobra9chess616 You’re welcome to enjoy the movie more than the book since it only required about 10% as much story understanding, but please don’t lie and claim the movie is better than the book.

@@CdrChaos but it’s the truth, the movie is far better objectively than the comics. But even if you liked more the comics than the movie, I’m happy for you. Have a good day

@@noobra9chess616 Opinion, it’s your opinion that the movie is better, and you’re welcome to that opinion.

@@noobra9chess616 Everyone knows the comic was miles better than the movie

Cap doesn’t kill people like Frank does. He only kills when it’s absolutely necessary, like in war. And Cap has lost family before. His adopted son was shot right in front of him by his girlfriend and that didn’t cause him to go off the deep end like Frank. Many heroes lose their loved ones, but they understand that it’s not an excuse to go full psycho and start killing people just because they’ve done some bad things. And if you want to know a true hypocrite, then look no further than Franks himself. Back when Cap was made a Hydra agent Frank went right along with him. After that whole debacle Frank would then go on to kill some Hydra Agents, saying that they deserved to die just because they were Hydra. That means that Franks deserved a bullet in his head after he joined Hydra so why didn’t he kill himself?

I always say thats Gothams justice systems fault.

... Frank Castle killed a reformed D list villain who was trying to be a hero.

​@@poopyscoopy6984Gotham's justice system has probably been engineered by corrupt people paid by the very criminals that keeps evading it. Kind of like in real life where politicians made it so when they or their friends steal millions from the taxpayer they go to a resort for a few years and then get out and still get to keep their fraud money while when a poor guy steal something to eat he goes in for a decade or two to serve as slave labor in prison. Oh and if you think I just described America? No I just described every single country on earth not just the capitalist ones.

Frank Castle is wrong, you can't just kill everyone because you have a moral code and feels like you are the center of the fucking universe, Batman is sometimes wrong because some villains needs to be stopped permanently, there is a line, you should kill to defend yourself and other people when it's only absolutely necessary

​@@loganwoods1590Yeah, the other guy deserved it since he sided with Thanos on world wide genocide, but the other villain's biggest crime was sealing people in gold dust...dying from asphyxiation if they weren't broken free... Okay, so maybe from Punisher's point of view, the other guy was kind of a monster as well. Just because you're a thief with a gimmick gun doesn't mean your gimmick gun doesn't kill people. Although he could of reformed, even though he WAS too stupid to live. (He buys enormous amounts of gold dust for his weapon to commit heists, encase guards and other people in his way in gold, and usually fails his heists) And the thing that sucks is that the Thanos ally survived due to retcon while gold dust man is still dead.

honestly I think it would be interesting if the punisher had an arch nemesis who fought on the opposite side of the war. The arch nemesis would kill rich people, and cops which would be the opposite of the punisher but this time she would also be like him thinking that by killing all the corrupt rich people and cops the world would be better. It would be interesting since Frank Castle would have someone who despite have different views on how to fight evil would also understand him and his ptsd and also sympathize with frank castle's killing unlike the rest of the marvel universe.

@@AutistRapper Punisher also kills rich people and corrupt cops lol

Frank is a deranged killer who lives only to murder. Criminals are just a convenient target for him. He loves to kill, after his time in Vietnam he fantasized about killing people when he found easy opportunities, and later reflect that maybe his family being murdered was for the best so he could have a convenient outlet for his bloodlust. His way also yields zero results, since his war on crime will never end. There’s always more murderers and scumbags out there, Punisher doesn’t even make a dent in the overall scope of it.

Nah, Benny would win.

honestly I think it would be interesting if the punisher had an arch nemesis who fought on the opposite side of the war. The arch nemesis would kill rich people, and cops which would be the opposite of the punisher but this time she would also be like him thinking that by killing all the corrupt rich people and cops the world would be better. It would be interesting since Frank Castle would have someone who despite have different views on how to fight evil would also understand him and his ptsd and also sympathize with frank castle's killing unlike the rest of the marvel universe.

Batman in a nutshell. lol

It's ai voice

Caps voice doesn’t seem to fit , at least I think so.

Because the ones who attacked him were villains. Iron Man had begun recruiting supervillains in his fight against Cap’s team. The Jester and Jack O’Lantern saw it as an opportunity to kill Spider-Man.

@@blechb5317 Lol you could be right. But I mostly think it's the result of shoddy writing by bad liberal writers who have no business working in the comic book industry.

You not alone, I agree.

I agree with you but probably is because i am a fanboy of punisher XD my favourite marvel character

Yeah but your trying to compare the joker to these two is a bit much joker as you said kills people but these two just steal shit so for punisher to kill them feels a bit too much

Yeah. But as the guy above said, there's no reason NOT to kill the Joker. These guys though? They were just thieves :/

imo the only reason why it happens is becouse comics need those villains becouse in real world they are would be dead by know.

The problem is Frank is a vigilante who actually kills criminals and believes he's above the law to not allow due process. Frank is actually scary because how capable he is to invade law taking him in for murdering criminals. Frank doesn't see grey, either you are good or bad, no in between. The heroes hate him because he does what they don't do. They won't cross the line and will try to reason with criminals and even save them. They are vigilantes that can't be taken in by normal street PD but they know they are trusted to let the police handle criminals. Frank is right and wrong at the same time on criminals. Him killing rapist, traffickers, warlords, and ped0s isn't wrong but a guy robbing a convenience store to feed their family doesn't deserve it.

Just like the modern justice system, they are more angry at people that face criminals than the criminal theirselves.

honestly I think it would be interesting if the punisher had an arch nemesis who fought on the opposite side of the war. The arch nemesis would kill rich people, and cops which would be the opposite of the punisher but this time she would also be like him thinking that by killing all the corrupt rich people and cops the world would be better. It would be interesting since Frank Castle would have someone who despite have different views on how to fight evil would also understand him and his ptsd and also sympathize with frank castle's killing unlike the rest of the marvel universe.

It's not that he kills mass murderers and rapists. It's that he'll also kill literally anyone wearing a mask if he doesn't know them

Anyone would show you respect if you saved their ass from getting curb stomped by two 2 psychopaths in a sewer drain

honestly I think it would be interesting if the punisher had an arch nemesis who fought on the opposite side of the war. The arch nemesis would kill rich people, and cops which would be the opposite of the punisher but this time she would also be like him thinking that by killing all the corrupt rich people and cops the world would be better. It would be interesting since Frank Castle would have someone who despite have different views on how to fight evil would also understand him and his ptsd and also sympathize with frank castle's killing unlike the rest of the marvel universe.

honestly I think it would be interesting if the punisher had an arch nemesis who fought on the opposite side of the war. The arch nemesis would kill rich people, and cops which would be the opposite of the punisher but this time she would also be like him thinking that by killing all the corrupt rich people and cops the world would be better. It would be interesting since Frank Castle would have someone who despite have different views on how to fight evil would also understand him and his ptsd and also sympathize with frank castle's killing unlike the rest of the marvel universe.

@@AutistRapper this idea is very autistic as you

as always, the point is to find the line between the extremes and straddle it as doggedly as you can. castle is an extremist, so is cap. they're opposite ends of a spectrum of morality.

True. I don't know why they keep putting them in Arkham when they always break out or get broken out. Clearly upgrades are needed or a Guantanimo Bay style facility is needed or some sorta place like the Phantom Zone.

The problem with that is why is it Batmans responsibility? Why don't the citizens just shoot joker, or Arkham just murder him, etc etc

@@l0sts0ul89 bad plot, joker would of got the death penalty a long time ago.

@@angerskarin9222 and it's comics, no one stays dead, it's why Punisher never really kills the mainstream villains.

It did but he was to damaged to actually fight back or dodge, all he could do was run.

I hope you understand, but dont agree

@@andresaguilarcampoy631 hmm, I’m not entirely sure. What’s the difference between seeking Justice on two killers who have probably killed more than one person each and the state placing them on death row? Hero’s put them in jail, they inevitable break out, go back to killing some more. A great example is the joker, he’s been to jail, mental institution multiple times and he always get out and kills more. Though I respect Batman and love his character, he could have saved hundred of lives if he had taken one life.

@@jessev2295 but he would get corrupted, just like punisher for example, you dont decide who gets redemption and who dont. You cant just play judge jury and executioner, even less if you are a superpowered or full of gear/resources vigilante. Who are you going to answer to ?

@@andresaguilarcampoy631 so who does decide? A justice system that debatably fails consistently to actually stop crime? In this case there was a balance, you have hero’s like Cap who have a moral code that saves his purity, but because of this people die. Then you have hero’s like punisher who sacrificed his purity to put an end and complete stop on acts of evil. Those villains he killed will never harm another person again, at least I believe that is his logic. Given his history with violence, loss, trauma, I understand his motives. I get where you’re coming from, I do believe that there’s a better way on stoping crime, but I’d be ignorant if I were to think that everyone can be saved or deserves a second chance.

honestly I think it would be interesting if the punisher had an arch nemesis who fought on the opposite side of the war. The arch nemesis would kill rich people, and cops which would be the opposite of the punisher but this time she would also be like him thinking that by killing all the corrupt rich people and cops the world would be better. It would be interesting since Frank Castle would have someone who despite have different views on how to fight evil would also understand him and his ptsd and also sympathize with frank castle's killing unlike the rest of the marvel universe.

Deciding you’re judge jury and executioner and killing villains without due process is absolutely insane. These two villains in particular only crimes were petty thievery. They did not deserve death

Not really? He’s seen his adopted son get shot right in front of him by his girlfriend and that still didn’t break him

@@icegodsavior8885 he’s a hydra agent

@@tykeriancollins806 Nope. Never has been in his life. Nice try