Ironmouse Reveals Why Everyone Is Graduating To Join VShojo...

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@DailyIronmouseFanClips 6 ай бұрын

This Is Gold, Don't Miss it👇 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z8ulmNBzssiznZc.html

@K9KURO 6 ай бұрын

i joined vshojo so i could be a cute anime girl

@vtuberstypicalenjoyer1468 6 ай бұрын

And you became one. Good on you

@alcatraz160 6 ай бұрын

Imma put citation needed on that one.

@hamtier 6 ай бұрын

well you're definetly succeeding since you're one of the cutest! living your best life in 2D

@NamuIsIdle 6 ай бұрын

lol... homie's just sick in bed, watching VShojo videos lmaoo... get well soon kuro!

@Rendarg 6 ай бұрын

Sometimes it takes a real man to become the best girl.

@scaridaghostly 6 ай бұрын

Vshojo honestly just feels like a bunch of indie VTubers hanging out together

@DreamChasersInc 6 ай бұрын

That's what it started as, and that is what it, largely, still is.

@user-dy3sq8pg2d 6 ай бұрын

it feels more of a circle than a company

@rudolfambrozenvtuber 6 ай бұрын

@@user-dy3sq8pg2dIt's why I've never been as bothered as some people about the lack of totally new faces in the lineup

@TMS-Oddbot 6 ай бұрын

Kind of is? Though I think it also provides marketing and resources besides that at least…surely.

@groerhahn225 6 ай бұрын

Yeah because they ARE "independent" in a lot of ways. Pretty sure the only restrictions they have is to not throw shade at the company and other talents through their words and actions and to not disclose sensitive information. Apart from that, they can do what they want. They're not treated like children like in Hololive or Nijisanji. "Oh nono. Baby...showing your hands on stream? That's way too dangerous, little one! Let me correct that by banning you from doing it. Oh, you want to explore horror content, create some kind of anolog horror series around your persona? No no no, some people might be upset about that! Silly little fellow! Collabs with people on the outside? Sure! Let me just control every aspect of that collab, delay it by months and shut it down if there's anything in it I don't approve of!" I can't understand how people are okay with this bullshit and even defend it. It is an absoulutely attrocious mistreatment of creative minds.

@JDBManalo 6 ай бұрын

the fact that members can leave and they get to keep their name and assets with them tells me that it's not a terrible company. I know of plenty of agencies in many parts of the entertainment industry that are ruthless to whoever doesn't comply to their standards or want to leave.

@SaveMeXenu 6 ай бұрын

I wonder if that's because they're all independents who joined Vshojo, where in Hololive, they audition for characters that are created entirely by their team, with the exception of Suisei.

@JDBManalo 6 ай бұрын

@@SaveMeXenu yeah that would definitely be a big difference. in vshojo, the cast commissions their own assets.

@guilguis4820 6 ай бұрын

@@SaveMeXenuNot at all. It's written on their website that the talents own their IP. It holds true for the founding members, for people who debuted under them at the start like Froot and Hime and for the people who joined later like Nazuna, Henya, Kuro and Matara.

@zenblacker3788 6 ай бұрын

Also take into account that Vshoujo is an American agency where influencers work, which already makes it VERY different from Hololive, which is a Japanese idol agency, and derived from a larger company. Also, although I adore the Vshoujo girls, neither they nor the Nijisanji can compare their scale to that of Hololive, which can have a very demanding environment, but it has worked for them.

@switchgear100 6 ай бұрын

@@guilguis4820 while you are not wrong you are missing the point they are trying to make. They are putting forth the reason that is even on their website in the first place is because the company started as a bunch of indies coming together rather then a company auditioning talents for things the company developed. While they were not all indies at the start it would have been weird for say Iron mouse to get her IP while Froot didn't, and there is no way Ironmouse and the other indies joined without the clause.

@Pikminiman 6 ай бұрын

It's a huge differentiating factor that VShojo allows its creators to own their models.

@OGSilentMan 6 ай бұрын

I actually realized that, thats so cool!

@kyubimage9526 6 ай бұрын

The fact that Haruka was allowed to take a break while she was recovering from long covid should tell you all you need to know.

@jimai808 6 ай бұрын

And hime can stream as occasionally as she wants, and mel can literally make adult content with her model, etc.

@JunkoEnoshima. 6 ай бұрын

And Nazuna is as good as gone as well with being active on her other persona and nothing happens. She is not obligated to work as Nazuna

@KanuckStreams 6 ай бұрын

YES

@ryoumakoushiro7447 6 ай бұрын

"If your talent isn't happy, then how'd you expect a great content?"

@alotosius 6 ай бұрын

While I agree with the statement, some people are just cray-cray. It dose not hurt a be a bit vigilant at least.

@spk1121 6 ай бұрын

@@alotosius: True, narcissists are happiest when _everything_ is all about them, even if it makes everyone else miserable! Hopefully, like you said, they will be vigilant about keeping that sort of "happiness" out of the company.

@TheAyanamiRei 6 ай бұрын

Nina wasn't happy and she was making great content. You don't have to be happy to make great content. HOWEVER..the bigger issue is you won't be able to KEEP your Talent, ESPECIALLY when you're getting Poached. ESPECIALLY when you have Former Talent saying you're NOT a good company.

@ryoumakoushiro7447 6 ай бұрын

@@TheAyanamiRei AND the said issue is still around

@spk1121 6 ай бұрын

@@TheAyanamiRei: I suppose it could depend on your point of view, to some extent. The streamer (Nina/Matara Kan) might say she was making do as best she could before and that she would have been able to make what _she_ considers *great* content with more professional support while in her prior role! Just a theory, of course, but I think it's plausible.

@connor48880 6 ай бұрын

VShojo is certainly the most free VTuber company, because it’s just a talent agency. they just provide you with financial backing and let you keep any money you make because the company’s money comes from merch it’s not an idol corporation. if you want to leave you can just take your model with you.

@connor48880 6 ай бұрын

also it always makes me laugh how the only joke the naysayers know how to make is “TaleNt FirSt?? buh bUh WhErE’S thE TaleNt??1?1?”

@deadinside2342 6 ай бұрын

BEANS!?

@treflosho 6 ай бұрын

If it's a talent agency, what separates it from Mythic?

@Toastybees 6 ай бұрын

@@trefloshoBranding.

@guilguis4820 6 ай бұрын

@@trefloshothe focus on vtubing, tech support and other services. Mythic is even more hands off than vshojo, only providing sponsorship opportunities most of the time. They do help with other things here and there for certain members.

@braiinrxtt 6 ай бұрын

Idk why people are so weird about someone joining VShojo. People leave their old jobs and join new companies all the time. This is literally no different. Like why wouldn’t I switch to a different company if they offer me a better deal-whether that’s financially or mentally. I’m obviously gonna stop flipping burgers at McDonalds if someone offered me a cushy job on Wall Street. It’s really as simple as that.

@paracame8162 6 ай бұрын

it's because they can't wrap their heads around Vshojo being a better situation for the Vtubers than whatever other big corpo they worship

@FiredAndIced 6 ай бұрын

I think we need to understand that Vshoujo handles a _very different market and talent segment_ than either Cover Corp or AnyColor. People need to accept that, and move on. Stop comparing work cultures. You’re better off treating yourself better than to simp others in the hopes of validating your self created identity.

@paracame8162 6 ай бұрын

@@FiredAndIced that goes out the window when the same talents from the so-called "different segment" joins Vshojo

@nazunaaaaaa 6 ай бұрын

@@paracame8162Cover better. Hololive 🔛🔝

@Xynth22 6 ай бұрын

It's just tribalism.

@neaast9553 6 ай бұрын

This comment section is surprisingly mature and a lot of people bring up well thought out and supported statements/arguments - of course not everyone but you get what I mean. I had myself an overwhelmingly pleasant looooooong read; thank you to everyone who decided to commented in a less emotionally driven(or better put: well thought out) manner and thank you clipper for making a space where these discussions could take place (even though it probably could have been entirely on accident). And if you read all this rambling, I appreciate you and hope you have a lovely day :)

@marcusreading3783 6 ай бұрын

Shes right. One of the biggest reasons for a companies, especially an entertainment compony, success and CONTINUED success is keeping their workers happy. A happy worker who feels appreciated and listened to will be FAR more productive than a beaten down drone. You get a lot more out of someone motivated, as opposed to someone just going through the motions and, again, that goes ten times over for a creative industry. Passion is vitally important for a creative endeavor and you dont get passion by wrapping your talents up in red tape and rules. A certain amount is necessary, its still a business, but keeping that flame of passion alive is far more important.

@bthsr7113 6 ай бұрын

I like that she is mindful that everything ends. Some people think it's possible to not only sustain a company indefinitely, but grow it indefinitely. And that's just not how things work. And I dare say that being mindful of that can lead to better sustainability..... as well as knowing when to pull the plug.

@TenshiKisai 6 ай бұрын

At least Vshojo is on the ball and has people who have experience in streaming (literately people who used to work for Twitch.) The problem is always the long-tail problem, where ad revenue is finite, and always going downwards, and growth is not infinite and eventually plateaus. At some point, all ad-supported content has to switch to membership-only or pivot to merch-supported only, because ad revenue always declines. Ads chase trends, and if you're not a trend, you only get the kinds of scammy ads people block with extreme prejudice. To put it another way, If you aren't regularly seeing ads from McDonalds, Coca Cola and Ford, your content is not brand safe enough, and your revenue from ad revenue should not be your main income. This is why Vshojo has to have a merch strategy.

@richardpaulson6002 6 ай бұрын

The nightmare fuel that haunts me with the simple fact this completely applies to several talents as well. Waiting for the horrid day where I flip on the phone and find a Vtuber obituary list.

@TheAyanamiRei 6 ай бұрын

@@TenshiKisaiI mean most Twitch Streamers make more money from Memberships and Bits. Not to mention, Matara DID push their mech heavily in her Debut Stream. So there's that too. I mean the thing is, Iron Mouse is the Face of VShoujo. We don't know what will happen if/when she dies, assuming that VShoujo is even still around at that point. If VShoujo doesn't have a Replacement Face, I think THAT could be a real issue. We also don't know what Society or The Internet will be like in 20-30+ Years. VTubing wasn't even a thing 10 years ago, and VR hadn't caught on either. Not only that, but we don't know what members will Join/Leave in even 10 years time. We could have DOUBLE the VTubers at VShoujo. They could be expanding into other countries in 10-15 years! Iron Mouse understands this, as she's already seen VShoujo change a lot just in the past year. She would have seen The Internet change significantly in the past 10 years, with regards to Streaming & the Rise of VTubers. There's no way she can predict what will happen in 10 years with VShoujo OR The Internet. I don't think ANYONE can. Hell in 10 years Niji might end up collapsing in on itself, and ALL their VTubers flee to HoloLive & VShoujo for all we know!

@Necro-the-Pyro 6 ай бұрын

@@TheAyanamiRei Mouse and Mel I think are both the face of it.

@TheAyanamiRei 6 ай бұрын

@@Necro-the-Pyro Hmmm....Yeah. Mel DOES have a big following too. But doesn't Mouse have more Collabs? I feel like between the two...Mouse is much more of the glue that holds everyone together. An I don't know what would happen if they lost her. For instance, would Connor stay if Mouse left or something happened to her? Plus, as I also stated....we don't know what the VTubing OR Internet will look like in 10-20 years, much less 30+ years. 10 years is a LONG time for The Internet.

@ishiblack7497 6 ай бұрын

Vshojo: Isekai Company

@fungers1514 6 ай бұрын

VShojo acts like a real agency. They act as an "agent" of their talents rather than as exploitative tyrants.

@steveluvscows2490 6 ай бұрын

Don't get me wrong, Nijisanji isn't a "bad" company per se. At least not as bad as stuff like Wactor. But when you're a big company that mass produces wave after wave of VTubers without a break, you're BOUND to run into management issues at some point.

@TheAyanamiRei 6 ай бұрын

I think you could say that Wactor is BEYOND Bad, and is downright horrific from the sound of things. Nijisanji, from what we've heard from Matara AND a DIFFERENT Former VTuber from there who NEVER got the Fame....it's NOT a good place. The Talent are effectively indoctrinated to think that they're NOTHING without Niji. That if they leave, they're NOTHING. Niji is a place you could go to become popular, hit the grindstone, and work extra hard to build a Large Following. THEN you leave to join VShoujo or somewhere else that'll GUARANTEE you hit it BIG from Day 1 with your Fame.

@sirdeadlock 6 ай бұрын

Niji is publicly traded, right? That means their company exists to make money for shareholders. Any publicly traded company is good for shareholders and the people at the top and exponentially less supportive for everybody else. Whether you want to call that bad or not depends on how you define it. There are plenty of bosses that hire new people, give them free snacks, flexible hours and a company car, but once somebody talks about adult stuff, like wanting private health care, a retirement plan, child care leave, daycare, sick days, or progressive yearly wage increases, suddenly they drop all the "competitive pay, motivated individuals, star employees" talk and jump on how worthless you are and can be replaced by somebody off the street within a week.

@PrimeroJinJusuke 6 ай бұрын

⁠@@TheAyanamiReiYou need to actually give proper sources about the second half of your paragraph.

@Soutame 6 ай бұрын

@@sirdeadlock Company is bad or not is up to who you asked. If you ask the shareholder, benefits and public image may be in consideration. If you ask the employee, well... that's depends, whatever, I don't think I can pretend to know it. For me, company is bad when it can't manage itself to do or maintain whatever it should and can't keep its public image to wherever it should be. Such company tends to stay at the same place or falling downhill. For me Niji is one of them. At least I can't manage to expect much from the company. It seems to continuously lose the trust from some of its community. Which if I am a shareholder there, can see it as a risk due to the nature of business it is doing.

@rionnachelliot8951 6 ай бұрын

I feel like Niji's 3 biggest weaknesses are this. 1) They release gens too fast. 2) They are weirdly controlling in ways that the talents don't seem to like. 3) Non-JP talents seem to be shunted pretty hard.

@on_crono 6 ай бұрын

Vshojo successfully show the prime and best example of not taking a vtuber's original persona away and let them be indle and at the same time they can have better income by working with a company

@mrii114 6 ай бұрын

I came here to complain about the thumbnail. if any, Ironmouse should be Sailor Chibi Moon. PERIOD.

@ResidentWeevil2077 6 ай бұрын

Sailor Iron Mouse exists KEK

@flaredragoon8922 6 ай бұрын

And here I am still waiting for vshojo rangers. I need zen as zordon and henya as alpha

@TheAyanamiRei 6 ай бұрын

Nah. She has the HAIR for it, but it's VERY clear that she should be Sailor Moon, because she's the LEADER of VShoujo. She's the Face of VShoujo.

@Necro-the-Pyro 6 ай бұрын

@@flaredragoon8922 I want vshojo mecha musume

@RM43 5 ай бұрын

@@flaredragoon8922okay I gotta know, why Zen for being Zordon?

@astrosteve 6 ай бұрын

People are almost assuming anyone who graduates is going to VShojo. Within minutes of Mika Melatika announcing graduation, I was seeing people saying she's going to Vshojo. (and a few extremely angry people saying to stop assuming that, incidentally.)

@cantthinkofabettername3889 6 ай бұрын

I remember people saying Mirai Akari was going to join Vshojo when she graduated, but it clearly never happened.

@BathalaBeril 6 ай бұрын

@@cantthinkofabettername3889tbf it was actually mirei that hinted about joining vshojo. About mika though i assume its mostly because mika is close friends with 4 vshojo members Mata, Kuro, Geega and Froot (and being friends with members is usually how you get in Vshojo). Also incidentally after mika announced her graduation ironleaks (ironmouse) has leaked 2 new members incoming

@timurdos 6 ай бұрын

dont wanna add to the speculation but mika has awfully lot of collabs with vsj members lately.

@Korota 6 ай бұрын

People are going to gossip, but the problem was that people were doing it ON HER STREAM, in TTS even. Fucking idiots. Imagine if she got in trouble for that and it actually ruined whatever plans she had to join VShojo? People need to keep that shit separate from the streamer.

@RoyalFusilier 6 ай бұрын

In the stream where she announced her intention to graduate, Mika said that she's done at Nijisanji, but not done with vtubing. Pretty clear what that means in this context, although even if she does go totally indie, that still means she's probably going to drop in all the time on VSJ streams.

@sparking023 6 ай бұрын

I've always assumed VShojo was the more hands-off agency, compared to Niji or HL, who have a whole brand to take care of. Instead, VShojo just gives a financial and legal backing for VTubers, who can make their content in a more free way. Some people are more built for the indie scene, and VShojo is generally a good place for them

@groerhahn225 6 ай бұрын

I hate that "Some people just aren't built to be a corpo Vtuber" narrative. No one is build to be walked over and micromanged to death. There are just people who can bear it better than others, who are able to carve out their own slice of happiness DESPITE the corpo BS. It is NEVER a good thing. Yeah, there are people like kyOresu or Dudethatslewd who absolutely aren't made to be corpo. But people like Matara, Kuro and even Sayu would thrive in companies like Phase Connect or Idol. They just we'rent made to endure beeing treated like cows who are milked out of content while beeing kept in a tiny stable with no access to daylight.

@rionnachelliot8951 6 ай бұрын

VShojo had to do some growing to get to that point though. Like any venture it started out with ideas and some worked and some did not. I am very happy to see that it seems to be successful right now. I am very happy with the rate at which we are including new members and that we have lifted the cap on male vtubers. No other major agency is built quite like them or profice freedom quite like them. The only other agency that has as much leeway is probably Phase Connect.

@Shiftry87 6 ай бұрын

Its understandable that VShojo works differently from other agencys as i belive its the only agency that dosent own the models and the talents own there own models. Maybe there are exceptions in some other agencys but atleast for what i have heard is that every other agency owns the model so they can do pretty mutch what ever they want with it and when u have an agency like VShojo that dosent own the models its gonna have to be more talent friendly becouse they dont own the models. Also that way the talents can have more say in what they wanna do instead of having someone else telling u what u can and can not do.

@McDragoneer 6 ай бұрын

vshojo has never been stronger, tbh, and viewership supports that, not only that but the streamers seems to enjoy themselves, seeing Henyas smile and transformation is honestly enough to support vshojo for life

@PedroSilva-ik8mv 6 ай бұрын

that "not yet" was marvelous

@ChronoEclipse 6 ай бұрын

I mean, I would not be surprised if Mika joins Vshojo, a Hololive Vtuber joining is not likely considering the drastic differences in how the company treats their talents vs how Niji treats theirs

@herpderpinson2118 6 ай бұрын

A hololive vtuber ever joining vshojo? Like that would ever happen.

@jdeltwoone 6 ай бұрын

yeah... a hololive talent joining vshojo... never happened before 😀😉

@GustavoSezerino 6 ай бұрын

@@herpderpinson2118kson

@Duamerthrax 6 ай бұрын

Vshojo and Hololive are very different companies, but doubt many more would leave Holo to join VSJ. People seem to have an understanding of what Cover will do for them and what's expected of the streamer. The only way I could see an exodus is if Hololive was bought out and things changed internally.

@ChronoEclipse 6 ай бұрын

@@jdeltwoone I almost forgot a Hololive talent did join its early in the morning here lol

@good_playlists 5 ай бұрын

I'm happy Mata is doing better here and i want to thank you Mouse i think you helped out at a perfect time as a fan its hard to watch such talented people being hindered by there own company a lot of creativity is being blocked, rejected, not permitted which is demotivating for the creators.. I think its becoming very obvious nowadays i just hope companies are keeping an eye on the situation because there are funny, talented, entertaining people that deserve to be happy.. When you've been a fan for so long its definitely heartbreaking thank you for talking about it Mousey..

@noble_wine 6 ай бұрын

Henya in a sailor scout outfit. ❤ Hello nurse~!

@ShadowKnux372 6 ай бұрын

Some sects of the fandom really want to thrive on negativity and look for it everywhere, it's tiring. No company is perfect, and we can never know everything about any given company or talent, but why try to stir the pot and throw around crazy rumors or assumptions just to further taint experiences for people? I don't understand how that's not tiring for some people to want to hold onto negativity and try spreading it around whenever they can, it seems exhausting. Just watch whichever Vtuber you like and let 'em entertain you, and support them. Simple as.

@alphaw0lfenvt 6 ай бұрын

That’s fair Ironmouse has a good point I am actually starting my vtuber journey next year and I have a lot of free time but I gotta learn how to edit and everything but I hope I have a lot of freedom, freedom is important.

@dandrecollier800 6 ай бұрын

Good luck to you in your endeavors

@alphaw0lfenvt 6 ай бұрын

@@dandrecollier800 thanks

@axxura5286 6 ай бұрын

i agree they should be able to create whatever content they want but i also don't blame the agencies they left after all everything except the person showing up belong to the agency. That agency then gives you a contract to sign and it's up to the individual to sign it or not especially for niji lets be honest a lot of them saw the chance to skip the early hardships of being a content creator and ignored the downsides and signed anyways. But this is also just a guess cause none of the groups will say it as it is not even vshojo mouse didn't reveal nothing here and she doesn't have too

@DeezNuts-rc3sv 6 ай бұрын

The thumbnail is so cool! Sailor Mars Zen is awesome!

@verdatum 6 ай бұрын

People have tried to drag me into the weirdest arguments about this stuff. I'll talk about how much happier it feels that people like Henya and Matara are, and a couple people will respond "You don't KNOW that. Maybe they're just being told to act that way." Whatever, pessimistic paranoid negative person, believe whatever you want. I see what I see; given my personal experiences, I tend to trust my personal perceptions.

@SpindlyJohnny 6 ай бұрын

Sounds like some *SERIOUS* projection on the part of those other people. 😬

@ResidentWeevil2077 6 ай бұрын

@@SpindlyJohnnyit usually is. They dredge up the past and claim past mistakes as proof VShojo is still a "terrible company", but at the of the day those people can stay mad.

@autumnlotus6250 6 ай бұрын

@@SpindlyJohnny i think its because there were multiple graduates From Vshojo that left because of poor staff choices when it comes to contracts, and twofaced behavior from the OG idols. maybe thats exsagerated, but it was Multiple people leaving. only Nijisanji had that drop off levels. And...alot of people think Ironmouse is becoming to corporate because of these changes. far less of her own passion, more cookie cutter streams and music to follow trends

@SenseiRaisen 6 ай бұрын

@@autumnlotus6250 Funny considering those 3 are the same people had issue with them too. 1- Nyanners because of her past. 2- Vei because of her attitude 3- Silvervale because she said a lot of dumb stuffs around too.

@shemsuhor8763 6 ай бұрын

Henya has been UNLEASHED since joining Vshojo and is absolute FORCE OF NATURE in vtubing. Hentai gang rise up.

@KusukusuMonster 6 ай бұрын

She says "Everyone deserves to feel secure and have someone helping them as they create content", like god I wish I had that. Tired of posting like a stream highlight video or something and having to delete 2-5 "k*s" comments each time. Especially when that's the only comments I get...

@TheInhumanBeatdown 6 ай бұрын

If you're posting on KZfaq, there is a section in the Studio that allows you to block out certain phrases. It won't stop them completely and they'll still likely happen but you can combat them.

@KusukusuMonster 6 ай бұрын

@@TheInhumanBeatdown It doesn't do much other than hold them for review so you can delete them without them ever appearing on your channel for others which it already does.

@hermit_the_fog 6 ай бұрын

The talent has proved themselves to be good at making content and conducting themselves properly. Why would the company want to get in the way of that. They don't need someone to approve games or collab, the talent has done this before and did so that vshojo wanted them in their midst. Vshojo, helping talent be more by assisting them and getting out of the way.

@brykanst9071 6 ай бұрын

the only reason cover needs to approve games is the same reason vshojo and any other agency should.. without written consent from the devs of the games they can and have filed dmca and other claims... hell even with permission cover has had to take down plenty of videos after the whole china fallout

@hermit_the_fog 6 ай бұрын

@@brykanst9071 I did not know that. From what I've seen the company has near total control of what the talent plays. I just thought it was part of the company dictating what the talent can do. My bad

@Greytusks 6 ай бұрын

@@brykanst9071 That's because Cover is a Japanese cie and Japanase copyright law is Verry strict with no fair use concept at all. Western streamers don't have to care for that (although there has been exceptions) other that music copyrights.

@dcresistance 6 ай бұрын

@@Greytusks Fair Use is a concept that technically doesn't exist worldwide, it's just that copyright holders turn a blind eye to individuals and smaller groups because it's not worth going after them legally because it's just a waste of money

@locos160 6 ай бұрын

@@brykanst9071 There's one instance recently about this, Rio (I think) was playing a game and had permission to advance further than others, the dev copyrightstruck him and mocked him on twitter, then it was found out Rio had permissions and the dev had to apologise. Japanese game devs can and WILL dmca you for the most absurd of things, Cover didn't use to ask for permissions and played whatever until their talents almost got their channels terminated.

@Strawberry_Lilac8 6 ай бұрын

I GOT 2 MORE YEARS, 2 MORE YEARS AND IM MAKING EVERY FREAKING EFFORT TO JOIN VSHOJO

@MercyTN581 6 ай бұрын

Letting silver go and she can still do her thing is pretty poggers champion of Vshojo

@farsound 6 ай бұрын

as long as talent is happy..... escapist -> second wind, yea, you are right.

@bonogiamboni4830 6 ай бұрын

Time is a fucking circle.

@masterofinfinity479 6 ай бұрын

love the thumbnail

@RetRequiem 6 ай бұрын

A place for fallen heroes has to be an Elysium. Vshojo is that place.

@curious.maddie 6 ай бұрын

is this purposeful wording? 🤨🤔

@RetRequiem 6 ай бұрын

@@curious.maddie maybe...

@alexander1989x 6 ай бұрын

Vshojo: Spawn point for corpotubers. Gunrun is the Gaben of Vtuber business.

@alcatraz160 6 ай бұрын

Wouldn't it be respawn point.

@normalplayer7710 6 ай бұрын

I wouldn't be surprised anymore if one of my fav Vtuber joined Vshojo

@HartSickle 6 ай бұрын

I somehow didn't read the "to join" part of the title and freaked out lol

@AP_Playz26 6 ай бұрын

I saw the video on my FY and the title wasnt full so i almost got s heart attack thinking the title said "Iron Mouse Reveals why everyone is graduating Vshojo" or something so i clicked immediately and thank goodness it wasn't what i thought it was But yeah i love that last part "as long as talent is happy,thats all that matters" Thats why Ironmouse is 1 of my favs from Vshojo

@danieladams2544 6 ай бұрын

Goatted thumbnail!!!

@Saelestria-jd3uq 6 ай бұрын

That Talent Freedom slogan is not a joke when you take circumstances from other talents and agencies into account

@TimothoNuva 5 ай бұрын

The thumbnail makes me wonder who would be Tuxedo Mask.

@callofseiiki 6 ай бұрын

this beautiful :)

@musicaluprising924 2 ай бұрын

VShojo sounds like a very fun and mostly stress free work environment. I’m very happy for the people who get to work with them.

@TenshiKisai 6 ай бұрын

Vshojo's home for graduated Vtubers. (To the tune of "Foster's home for imaginary friends")

@xplayfan21 6 ай бұрын

The sailor moon art is good.

@PlasmaWisp100 6 ай бұрын

It’s all business man. Different businesses in different countries have difference ideologies. Some people might be more comfortable in a tightly wound Japanese company where others may enjoy the loose freedom of an American company. It’s all extremely situational.

@loudradialem5233 4 ай бұрын

I remember when Mysta used to comment on clip videos.

@sookendestroy1 6 ай бұрын

People be like "today is the big one!"

@jestersraven408 6 ай бұрын

Vshojo from what I see is one of the better Vtuber companies

@lastationproductions 4 ай бұрын

Vshojo sounds awesome

@SynisterJeff 6 ай бұрын

You know you're with a decent company when they allow their talents to do other work outside of VShojo using their name and models.

@cassiebarber4669 6 ай бұрын

Oh god i read that as everyone is graduating from vsojo

@shesh705 5 ай бұрын

Retainment Home

@OneColdRepublican 6 ай бұрын

Does mouse have a Sailor Scout costume?

@imNewbieGuy 6 ай бұрын

Now, i wonder.. is Mika gonna coming to see Kuro 👀

@sirdeadlock 6 ай бұрын

When Projekt Melody first started VShojo, it was a collaborative effort between her and founding member of the Twitch team, Justin (theGunrun) Ignacio. She was doing a stream and Gunrun messaged her saying he'd love to help any way he could. She looked into him, because of course she's met a lot of people with ulterior motives in her life, and saw he was legit. To quote Melody "finally, an adult!" At the time, Melody was doing the Lewdcast podcast/KZfaq show with Silvervale and Iron Mouse, where they would invite guests to have conversations with, such as CdawgVA, Shibuya Kaho, Nyanners, Zentreya and a few others. Melody pitched the idea of forming a group with her friends and later that year they announced it. VShojo is different, because unlike other agencies where managers go out hunting for talent to make money off of, Melody and the others hired their managers to take care of various duties. The management team is working for the talent, rather than the other way around; it's a collaborative effort which either party is free to break ties. VShojo does not do generational groups. As Mouse once said, everybody in VShojo is a friend. They get to talk to each other, do collabs, and generally be themselves without any managerial restrictions and strategies based on performance. For this reason, all members of VShojo are socially connected and tend to have good chemistry on stream. They are friends on and off stream. There was a time when VShojo attempted to open up public auditions, but this opportunity was tainted with controversy as bad actors used the event for malicious intent. Ever since, Iron Mouse has stopped doing community showcases. That may however be a coincidence as her daily life has become more busy with professional responsibilities and content making projects she's not allowed to talk about. There is a pattern when there is a new member about to be announced, for deducing who that new member might be: 1) A new person will become a regular guest on streams, or the founding member will become a guest in streams the new person is in. 2) This new person will be friends with one of the founding members in some way. 3) The new person is likely an indie vtuber or becoming one. Examples: Vei went on stream dates with a couple of the members before she joined. Kson was a regular guest on Trash Taste, which Iron Mouse was also a guest for. Haruka has been a staple guest for years. Henya's previous identity had been on Iron Mouse's talk show, Speak of the Devil, as well as later collabs with her and again with Zentreya. Regardless of what anybody thinks is the logic, VShojo only lets friends join the talent side. Management will help set the friends up in the team, but it's the talent that finds new members. However, because of various forms of harassment, some VShojo member have delegated to the management team the burden of checking business emails, and if anybody tries to beg for an audition in chat it would likely violate set rules regarding self promotion or impromptu discussion of other streamers and would end up in an immediate ban. So if you want to join VShojo, don't try to join VShojo. Of course, I've never seen their contracts and don't know what goes on behind the scenes. The official VShojo website does not provide answers for questions such as how somebody becomes a member or what the roles and responsibilities of the management team are. These are only my observations.

@aidenquinn19975 6 ай бұрын

When the bar is so low for the people that came over, anything is better. Let’s be real here

@wassup048 6 ай бұрын

Side note, zen as sailor mars, she seems flatter then usual Sailor Mars FTW

@Hamun002 6 ай бұрын

It’s honestly exhausting keeping up with all the theory bullshit. Life finds a way.

@almichenfelder2912 6 ай бұрын

Cool

@loporina 3 ай бұрын

Man, this video with Mouse saying how happy Matara is and Kuro's explaining how Vhojo helped him with his taxes seem...rather telling now.

@herowin3825 6 ай бұрын

I wonder if VShojo/Gunrun started offering paid therapy after the contract terminations, or was it always like that there

@edwardlomeli5657 6 ай бұрын

Pretty sure it was after. I would think somebody else would have brought it up to give themselves good PR . Most companies brag about things they offer

@guilguis4820 6 ай бұрын

It was way before. They said mental health was among the main things they were going to use the 11M of venture capital investment they got in march of 2022.

@Paladin327 6 ай бұрын

I would think Zen’s little mental health episode in October 2021 would have been the likely catalyst for offering that kind of help

@Stieby 6 ай бұрын

Way before, Nyanners talked about it over a year ago. People need to stop assuming shit.

@jeppyjep 6 ай бұрын

Way before. Melody has talked about how Vshojo found her a therapist specific for her job.

@RadicalGaming1000 6 ай бұрын

We learned what mousey means

@KanuckStreams 6 ай бұрын

I wish I could join VShojo. But I'm not a shojo...

@tjtarget2690 5 ай бұрын

Notification Squad! :D

@angelvazquez6233 6 ай бұрын

Vshonen? When?

@spectated8159 5 ай бұрын

I'm always confused by the methodology of corrupt companies. How do they expect to make money if their main source of income is unhappy. Whether it's insulting or scamming their customers or mistreating and disrespecting their employees. They lower morale to rock bottom through a constant cycle of abuse, and for what? Don't say it's for money, because if they had treated them right from the start, money wouldn't have been a problem. All they do is give themselves a reason to end their career. Something will get out, people will find out, no one will want to talk to you, no one will want to remember you. Your source of income goes down the drain, they seize your assets, and you live in isolation. It's so unbelievably frustrating to see, so it's nice to know there's at least someone doing it right.

@spacemanmonster23 6 ай бұрын

Ironmouse just explained MatPat.... lol

@flyingfish7787 6 ай бұрын

Vshojo would end one day, and reborn as the next big Vtuber company, V-granny or V-BaBa.

@BknMoonStudios 6 ай бұрын

I pray for the day V-MILFs becomes a real thing. 🙏 😔

@isekaigaming4000 6 ай бұрын

“The workplace is where most people spend the majority of their waking day. When life at work becomes hard, living becomes hard.” -anonymous

@antinotice 6 ай бұрын

Me, reading this and agreeing hard, at 6AM, at the start of my 12 hour Sunday shift, appreciating the fact that my boss doesn't complain about me sitting there in comfortable pants or bringing a pillow and a blanket for night shift.

@gachagamer536 6 ай бұрын

This. I don't even count sleeping at home living because you're just recharging to work again the next day.

@LaughingOrange 6 ай бұрын

Managers should work for the talent, doing the boring and tedious behind the scenes work so the content is as good as possible.

@Dennisgnasher123 6 ай бұрын

The only reason vei silver and nyan left is because mythic threw a hue wad of money at them

@barmutah 6 ай бұрын

I have to watch this video twice because I'm distracted by her flappy wings 😅

@DaniMartVtbr 6 ай бұрын

There won't be an end to VShojo, it will simply evolve into either a next-generation entertainment platform or an SCP? Not sure which yet?

@mme725 6 ай бұрын

Source for the thumbnail?

@matrixiekitty2127 6 ай бұрын

I wish every talent agency or group was this positive and supportive of their talent! It sucks to see so many talented people get totally screwed over it held back.

@Mr.Severyn 6 ай бұрын

VShojo ….. GOOD?!

@rapthor666 6 ай бұрын

Clear headed feisty latina woman about to gently punch some sense into people verbally. It's why she's so likeable

@obitoxshinobi8978 6 ай бұрын

1:07nazuna Chan too?

@LCJammer 6 ай бұрын

nazuna would rather stream on her alt. becoming twitch partner kinda screwed her over and she doesn't really blame vshojo for it. which is why she is still in vshojo. hajime isn't active either and does other irl stuff.

@obitoxshinobi8978 6 ай бұрын

@@LCJammer kson san 💜 will help her

@enraikow6109 6 ай бұрын

My god, this is plenty confusing. I'm very much behind on everything vtuber, but i like to watch the snippets and highlights of a wide range of vtubers. So, can anyone explain to me what's going on? Are they graduating OUT of vshojo or INTO it? The title with the comments don't really connect with me.

@kamalama317 6 ай бұрын

Into it

@enraikow6109 6 ай бұрын

@@kamalama317aight, thanks. The comments are sounding like trying to console people that it's alright they left or there's no ill feel from them leaving, so that's why it confuses me.

@hugodeacon6545 6 ай бұрын

Does Mouse part own vShojo? Just the way she says "it's nice WE can give this to you" is interesting

@guilguis4820 6 ай бұрын

She doesn't. Unless it's a secret that no one has ever mentioned, none of the talents own the company or make business decisions. Every corpo vtuber talks about the group using we as well. It's not that deep

@hamtier 6 ай бұрын

no but mouse has spoken before how she gets them into contact with vshojo proper so she's probably involved in the initial step

@NamuIsIdle 6 ай бұрын

she's just one of the 3 founding members (if you think of original lewdcast), and VShojo's biggest success story... also, Vshojo probably gave her soo much support and a feeling of belonging, that it probably helped her survive her condition in a way... in the vibes kind of way, gives her a motivation and makes her keep going... similarly, she was also a massive reason that VShojo grew... Vshojo probably would've failed as a company, or atleast wouldve been a lot smaller if not for mouse... so its probably a bit of a symbiotic relationship of why she feels one with VShojo itself... or maybe she owns some stock in the company, idk...

@Neko_Medic 6 ай бұрын

She is Vshojo's biggest talent by far, also one of the OGs, so she has a lot of unofficial authority there.

@PrayogiCristian 6 ай бұрын

Vshojo grow because holo. Also back then, they were always reaction for holo clip to their stream. And then suddenly, vshojo clipper was rising

@ShadowMoon878 4 ай бұрын

Zaion was right

@redakdal 6 ай бұрын

I am going to let you and everyone know there are alot of bots in here, and I am not just saying that , I have seen the same replies from the same people replying in a loop. its again like what mousey said, someone really put in the time to makes a bot to gaslight people reading it, its insane, I am 100% sure they are bots trying to intentionally get people to reply in a attempt to fuel the flames

@ceresbane 6 ай бұрын

The universal rule remains true. Offer a better contract and people will take the deal. Its just business. People getting butthurt are just a bunch of dumb kids that think in terms of brand loyalty. Anybody who's ever worked a job in their life for at least 2 or so years should know. Loyalty isn't worth anything. A talent should approach their career with a business mindset. And fans should educate themselves and respect those decisions. Unless you're Pokimane who's literally scamming people and telling you you're poor for not wanting to buy scam cookies. I'm talking about the big picture here.

@LuckyBird551 6 ай бұрын

I swear that Ironmouse is a saint. An absolute angel, she is Mr. Fred Rogers level of being a good person.

@robertvalli2238 6 ай бұрын

Completely agreed

@techead23 5 ай бұрын

If your talent ain't happy, then you won't get good content that makes you money. It's funny how other companies don't get that(not just vtuber companies)

@ribps289 6 ай бұрын

I feel bad for Nyan, she was huge in VShojo, 5-7k audience, now she got less than half. She said she left because money but she ain't doing that good alone. Well of course her numbers are still great I guess.

@closetBK1350 6 ай бұрын

Oh yeah she was like even bigger, this is just what I saw while she was in Vshojo but she used to have like 8k to 10k average viewership, same for Veibae, from what I see now Vei still has like 5k to 6k but Nyan's dropped a lot to like 3k to 5k, again this is just what I see from stream to stream o haven't seen any analytics or anything

@topazokenni4869 6 ай бұрын

And why is that? Isn't her channel still in her channel, and her streaming style is still the same?

@closetBK1350 6 ай бұрын

@@topazokenni4869 i don't know but from what I saw the first viewer drop was when vei had the whole "r-word" drama and then nyan supported her, and then they both dropped but idk about anything else but another reason I can think of for nyan was maybe back when she started dating aethel and when all the parasocial people left her streams

@topazokenni4869 6 ай бұрын

@@closetBK1350 aaah... so it's not because they're out from Vshojo was the problem... it's simply because of their manner...

@closetBK1350 6 ай бұрын

@@topazokenni4869 yeah yeah they both had very stable viewership after they left vshojo

@GamingDreamer 6 ай бұрын

What Ironmouse job in Vshojo besides being a vtuber

@ResidentWeevil2077 6 ай бұрын

Nothing, she's only a talent.

@thekinkynun 6 ай бұрын

Criminal mastermind, getaway driver, and smooth pimp.

@antinotice 6 ай бұрын

@@ResidentWeevil2077 I think she's more than that. I wouldn't be surprised if her name would be somewhere on the list of directors or management considering how many streams get canceled/delayed because of "meetings".

@guilguis4820 6 ай бұрын

@@antinoticeHave you ever had a corporate job before? There's no way this is the case.

@gamerboy7962 6 ай бұрын

VShojo is becoming the retirement plan for graduating VTubers

@antinotice 6 ай бұрын

Why retirement, though? Swapping jobs is something completely normal in many fields, especially IT-related. They also continue vtubing instead doing something else (like RL content or just a normal job). It's more like switching characters in a rpg - you are not retiring from playing the game, you just play a different class, join a different guild, etc. Tbh, joining corpo and using their name and resources to gain audience and then switching to vshojo to be free to do whatever you want sound like a well-thought plan if you ask me (disregarding the fact that it's not easy to become corpo vtuber...).

@RiaGracewood 6 ай бұрын

@@antinoticeit would be a solid plan, if it didn't mean taking a solid hit to your income, in most cases. Most of the previously corporate hires aren't making anything close to what they were. Doesn't necessarily mean it was a bad call for them personally. Nina wasn't comfortable with the hectic pace of corpo, so she'll likely be much happier in Vshojo. But to say it's a good plan in general is just not true.