Iroquois Confederacy IV: Champlain's Retreat and the Mohawk-Mahican War 1610-1628

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The Other States of America History Podcast

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In this episode where Eric mispronounces nearly everything, we cover the crucial period in Haudenosaunee history, when the Huron Confederacy dominated to the west, The French occasionally terrorized the Iroquois heartland, and having no Old World trading partners the Five Nations were on the retreat. However, the Iroquois with great foresight found ways to turn the tide of history in their favor.

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@craig3388 2 ай бұрын

great show. Interesting very different from mainstream history. Positve the way to go. The truth is hard to find...

@hughcenterville8999 2 жыл бұрын

First time viewing this series. (I think it's a series, will definitely look for more from this guy.) Outstanding treatment of the native people's politics. The Iroquois, besides being incredible fighters, were shrewd politicians, I mean this in a positive sense.

@Oleblueyes2024 Жыл бұрын

You will have a blast and learn a lot watching Eric's videos. New series just started and he just keeps getting better!

@VIKINGSAGAS 2 жыл бұрын

Really fantastic and in depth. Interested to hear history of the Pacific Northwest nations as well as the Southwest. Thank you

@theotherstatesofamericahis5212 2 жыл бұрын

I'll get there sometime this century.

@williamolivadoti3867 3 ай бұрын

Champlain left a record in stone near Lake Champlain to commemorate his first battle victory over the Iroquois. The local farmers know where it is but the historians/etc . do not even know it exists.

@williamolivadoti3867 3 ай бұрын

The Dutch records of New Netherlands were thrown into the garbage in Amsterdam in 1821. cf O` Callaghan, "History of New Netherlands", "New York State"1849-50 pub. date. So we don`t really know that much. Local amateur explorers in the Adirondacks have found evidence of two Ducth forts, one along the fur trail from the Great Lakes and another on the fur trail south to Albany, referenced by the French as not being built by them. Other French records of Dutch traces by Abenaki can be found at St. Sulpice in Canada.

@skywalker541 Жыл бұрын

Uh, sources?

@theotherstatesofamericahis5212 Жыл бұрын

the season end episode is the works cited.

@theotherstatesofamericahis5212 Жыл бұрын

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@skywalker541 Жыл бұрын

@@theotherstatesofamericahis5212 Just seems like the indigenous community would disagree with a lot of what you posit as fact in a lot of this. I wonder how many indigenous sources you actually used for the Haudenosaunee segments or if you consulted them at all, since you know...they're still here, and are able to speak for their own customs and history.

@theotherstatesofamericahis5212 Жыл бұрын

@@skywalker541 Fenton was a major source of this season he is adopted Seneca. Also the Encyclopedia of the Haudenosaunee, Dan Bonaparte's website, disagreement is fine thing to have, what did you pick out?

@skywalker541 Жыл бұрын

@@theotherstatesofamericahis5212 Well, the practice of cannibalism was a very serious taboo in the Great Law of Peace by this time, so I would expect some very strong evidence if you are going to make claims and accusations to the contrary. Pretty insulting to casually paint the Haudenosaunee as cannibals at this time or ever for that matter, without any convincing evidence. Settler accounts are not convincing. And further, if you're going to do an episode on the Mohawk, why not collaborate with them directly? They are still here...

@yolobuck2553 Жыл бұрын

Trading with Europeans before Columbus???

@copperlemon1 Жыл бұрын

Fishermen and whalers were probably moving up and down the coasts of North America and periodically making small trades with Indians in the decades prior to Columbus.

@rd8370 Жыл бұрын

It shows there’s no limit to a sea worthy craft and determination. History is just a place where we decide to start from, but there’s always a time before.

@user-sn5dy2nd1o 6 ай бұрын

They were the most feard tribes of north america thats why to he heron was scared of the Iroquois confederacy

@user-sn5dy2nd1o 6 ай бұрын

There is way more history that you know nothing about and only the native people and tribes know

@theotherstatesofamericahis5212 6 ай бұрын

Do you know of any recent books written by Haudenosaunee? I read just about everything, but won't circle back to the Haudenosaunee until season 5, these episodes in audio format came out in 2020, so it's been a bit.