Honestly 1440p 60fps is the way to go for most games. Edit: I play on PS5 on an HP OMEN 27i for reference.

You wish it was 1080p, some games are already dipping below 720p.

Damn, I had to double check that 8k subscribers thing. I can’t believe this isn’t a bigger channel. Your production quality, humor, and insight are all on point so I’m glad YT brought me here. To your point, I don’t think it particularly matters, especially since the vast majority of gamers (console and PC alike) are still using 1080p devices for viewing. They do need to start working on upping the refresh rate of our devices though and 120 should be a minimum standard with 360 being the target for most consumer grade electronics.

I am playing Banishers on a 4k 55 inch LG OLED and it was choppy and stuttered on some places so I changed it to 1080p and 120 hz from 4k 60 hz and it runs much better, It's time to go back to PC. Great vid. Subbed For consoles it is good enough because you have to realize consoles are what they are and they are outdated hardware trying to run current software but the games are very playable at 1080p and it's a good experience.

I just finished Plague tale requiem at 144fps 1440p medium settings. Amazing game.

Good video. When I had a 3060ti and then a 3080, I created a custom 3k resolution (2880x1620) in Nvidia control panel because 1440p looked too jaggy on my 55" 4K tv (AA kills a lot of performance) and my card either wasn't fast enough or didn't have enough vram for 4K. I later got a 3090 and then a 4090 so that solved a lot of issues for me.

Damn im intruiged. I subbed. Can you do more videos breaking down stuff like Dynamic resolution, FSR and DLSS etc in console gaming? I nerd out on that shizz lol If you don't mind my asking is there software available to explain this type of thing like how many pixels and what resolution is being used in games?

I love 60fps 1080p with good anti aliasing on console , as I have a pc and I know how hard it is to even game at 4k with a 4090 , I would prefer if console aimed at 1440p 60fps but im fine with 1080, I never ever play on quality mode , it makes me feel sick , my head hurts playing at 30fps and just looks like a blurry mess when you turn.

I play most of my games at 1080p, I have no problem with that resolution whatsoever especially as it usually gets me a better frame rate and I really can't tell a huge difference with 4k resolution anyway but my eyes are pretty poor just to be honest, 1080/60 is absolutely fine for me.

The reality of it is the ps5 is a 6700 at best, which is a 1080p, 1440 card. Let's do 1440p high refresh rate. It can be upscaled to 4k

1080p on my 55" inch TV about 3 meters away from the sofa almost looks as sharp 4k, though there's plenty of shimmering.

4k will always be a stretch especially on console where compromise is a must for a 500$ box and your 1 or 2 meters from the tv anyway so with upscaling and reconstruction 1080P is enough really ive never complained, the real issue is some games are running 1080P and sometimes sub 1080P at 30fps on modern consoles while not looking spectacular at all this is the issue?

Its amazing MGS4 ground zeroes looked so good on PS4 and was 1080/60 back in 2014. Lol. But yeah im happy with 1080 on gaming monitor.

My friend bougt an XSS, upgrading from a XOS. RDR2 was most of what he played. I don't have the heart to tell him both versions of the game are the same graphically

The real problem is.... TAA... temporal anti aliasing is making our games blurry

No one buys a 4k TV to play at 1080p... It's not acceptable since Sony and Microsoft advertised their consoles as being a 4k machine.

For me, it depends on the screen and not the resolution. My 4070 laptop has a 1440p screen at 16" and it looks extremely crisp with DLSS balanced in cyberpunk with psycho ray tracing. Even at 1080p it would still be very sharp and I could probably get away with either DLSS Quality or DLAA. My 4070 desktop, with DLSS balanced on a 60'"4k HDR10 TV does not look near as good even though the resolution is higher at balanced DLSS in 4k over 1440p. PPI is the king of crispy visuals and not so much resolution itself.

Very cool channel 👍 subbed

I wish there was a 1080p mode. Many PS5 and Series X games make the "4K" 30 fps option and some performance "1440p or less" 50-60 fps mode. Frankly in many games I'd prefer a real 1080p than the upscaled blurry mess that so often happens

Less than 1080p in the year of our lord 20 and 24...you love to see it

Dlss looks fine when upscaling from 1080 to 4k. Anything else looks bad. FSR is unplayable. The endless shimmering and sizzling pixels hurts my eyes.

Something to take into consideration is how far from the screen you are sitting at.

A matter of personal preference

I just got a 1080p 144Hz gaming monitor (BENQ EX2710S) by mistake thinking it was a 1440p monitor. Thinking of replacing it with a 1440p 120Hz monitor (LG ultragear 27gn800), should I go for it? will I be missing out on a lot if I stick to this 1080p monitor? (TBH the game still looks amazing on this 1080p monitor) p.s. I own a ps5 and play story games most of the time

Yes

1080p is fine and i’d rather have that with new innovative gameplay instead of endlessly getting interactive movies with prettier graphics. 1080p/60fps is ok. I got a 4k oled LGc1 and had both series X and a ps5 but sold them both as i felt that all they offered was prettier graphics but not much else, boring so i’ll stick to my mid range pc at 1080p until something intresting finally happens.

(0:52) This post makes me laugh, they accuse DF of “continued bashing of PS5 performance” and expect them to give “answers” as to why Xbox is “somehow” running Dragons Dogma 2 better than PS5. It’s simple, Xbox just has more raw power. I am not saying this to be an Xbox fanboy, I don’t even own an Xbox, I’m a PS5 user and even I know this.

Ohh stop spreading misinformation, 1080p upscaled to 4k, especially with FSR looks like garbage, yeah in static scene it will look alright for blind person, but in motion (wich all games are, because we play them, yes?) FSR looks horrendous, even with DLSS you don't want to go lower than balanced.

I don’t care if it’s not 4k. I’ll always stick with my ps4, people seem to forget that does 60 fps. Yea, some games are 30 but they are still all playable. 4k doesn’t make you play better. 1080p works perfectly since I use a 1080p TV. even the ps5 works perfectly fine in 1080p mode at 60 fps.

Every game I have played on my Ps5 in Performance mode is 60fps. These console only cost $500 why do people expects 4k/60 for that money playing a new AAA game . My $500 laptop has onboard graphics and would be lucky run Windows 11 pro OK . Play the newest AAA game at 1080p/60fps without Ray Tracing for only $500 ? Hell Yes .

I'd be ok but it needs to be locked a 60fps or higher.

Nothing wrong with 1080p and a good framerate.

1080p is somewhat acceptable, 30fps isn't. I'd even take 720p 60 rather than 4k 30.

I love 1080p. Just give me at least 60fps at all times and im happy. I hate this 1440p 30fps crap

New consoles are definitely underutilised…..Considering you can basically code to the metal with these machines you don’t get much more performance than a pc of equal spec

No, it’s not acceptable on the console that don’t have ML upscaling. 30 FPS is also not acceptable At this point it’s a design choice and a miss management of importance. Choosing to push graphics at the cost of everything is a joke. Devs are so bad at targeting a non moving target hardware that they overshoot by a whole generation. Basically they have to aim for the ps4 so they can land at a proper 1440/60 on the ps5. Why 1440p? Because that is where FSR2 can upscale to 4K while still looking clean. This is also a massive terrible business. If the console can barely run your game in which console are the budget system in the market… what hope of scaling do you have on other platforms like the PC? Funny enough we are seeing many of those just be avoided even on consoles and much so on PC. Possible showing that the market don’t want to buy games that they can barely run. Now let’s say if you did properly aimed your game to hit 1440p/60. Meaning you optimize your graphics, assist, and engine for that target. Not only you will have a better gaming experience, a better product, you can even release a ps4/xbox version, and even get it to run on a steam deck at 30/40 fps. Watching your video you try to used games with heavy graphics to make your point. Which one thing you forgot… who said the game needed those assist? That level of graphics? And so on… if the Developers focus on hitting 1440/60 instead of graphics. This wouldn’t be an issue. No, 1080p being upscale I can clearly see the issues assuming using Non ML upscaler. The image breakup in motion is so clear. Yes in Motion is far more important because it’s a video game. Now change the subject to ML upscaler like DLSS that is another topic. I can’t tell even when looking for it in motion. The only way for me to tell is to look for ghosting in very small particles effects. That is only because I know WHAT to look for. Non ML? It’s complete unusable below 1440p. Even my friend that has no idea what anything does doesn’t use FSR because it’s shit… and he doesn’t even know what it does. Just that it makes the game looks like shit. Anyways this whole discussion, is why I play on PC… because I can’t trust Devs to have common sense to know what’s more important in a game. They do hyper focus on making a movie by the time it’s time to optimize it’s far to late to make Key optimize decisions that should have been made regarding assist, features, and so on… so they slap the easy Upscaler button and call it. Soon, they all will be hitting the same Easy button with Frame gen to hit 60 FPS…. Anyone that uses that feature knows it needs a base of 60 to feel Okay. Okay not good. Hell I have a high end pc with a 4080 and I still avoid these type of games. Upscalers should be an optional optimization tool for low end hardware not a requirement for 4080/Consoles to hit 4K or 1440

I will say, as much as I enjoy playing in 1440p. I’m kind of jealous of the people who have never experienced it. Like once you see and play 1440p you don’t wanna go back. Plus your wallet is much safer playing at 1080p where you can build a pc with much cheaper parts and still get high frame rates.

Yes if the games are 60 fps i have a 1080 43 inch tv and i have no problem as long as the games are 60 fps at least am fine . I most of the countries we will not give more money to buy a tv if we already have one .

1080p definitely sucks on consoles considering the fact that the median tv used for consoles is 50 inches. I think console makers should stop the 4k false advertising and focus on using ai to upscale games from 1080p to anything that's either 2k or slightly higher while making stable 40 fps the new minimum for quality mode.

As long as the picture quality is gorgeous… I don’t care for resolution.

I have a i9 13900H and Rtx4090 laptop. I am playing at 1080p. Edit: oh sorry i am playing at 1200p, new laptop's my aspect ratio is 16: 10.

60fps is minimum acceptable, regardless of resolution.

Rockstar made gta 5 for consoles with less than 600 mb of ram, and gpu worse than a microwave and u telling me these consoles cant run 1440p at 60 fps? Aint no way. Developers are just lazy, not everything needs to have RT, not everything needs to be 4k. They should make every game run at least at 2k and 60 fps.

Consoles are never going to truly hit 4k so yes 1080p 60 fps games with smaller install sizes is welcomed vs fake 4k barely runs and takes way to much storage

1080p is fine. 30fps is not

I don’t agree, 4k native always look so amazing vs a 4k diss performance or quality… still my 2080 it not for the job some game 4k its posible with dlss but it’s rare, I have to play 1440p sometimes 1080p depending the game and graphics. I wish I had a 4090 😂 I’m guessing for hellblade 2 it’s a 1080p experience for me :( I had the series S and sold it after 2 months it’s resolution was not forme And my Xbox series X I give it to my neighbor to play Cod I don’t have use for it I have the pc, but ass soon GTA 6 comes out I’ll be asking for my Xbox back 😂

4k 120 Fps

1080p is okish, 30fps is unacceptable

I think 'fanboy', is a DEROGATORY term, & that You(& others)Should STOP USING IT... I think 1080p is still viable, & will remain so until mankind hits the max usable refresh rate & same is affordable at higher resolutions... I think......4K is(not only taxing & expensive to run at high frame rates, but also)OVERRATED - ESPECIALLY since the usually large displays which use 4K require a farther viewing distance which would(should - I haven't tested it myself)negate it's resolution 'benefit'-orrr, make a lower resolution look just as good... I think manufacturers use 4K to promote sales, but making consumers chase the unnecessary... I also think that due to there being a lack of performance scaling between 4K & 1K content on consoles, that games are rendered in 1K them upscaled to 4K - which is why 4K 30fps 'quality modes' don't automatically mean 1K 120fps 'quality modes'(it's probably 1K 30fps upscaled - someone's exploiting a technicality, & saving hardware costs)... That's what I think...🤔

TAA is a curse

Pretty surprising I thought 1440p 40 fps would be guaranteed. All this talk about ai upscaling and making the centre of the screen sharper only to reach 720p 😂

You are definitely more ignorant than digital foundry, experts in their own category bruh.

I think the reality that alot of people are only starting to realize is that while Microsoft sold the Series X as a 4K60 machine and the Series S as a 1440p60 one these standards were never gonna be lived up to, now we're at the point where with the X you get Xbox One standard resolution with 900p@60 upscaled to 4K if you want performance and just barely above 1080p upscaled to 4K once again if you want Quality, meanwhile the Series S is just the xbox one with 900p@30. There's definitely a conversation to be had in terms of diminishing returns in terms of the overall output we're seeing from most devs and what they can achieve with their games, this struck me recently when I was playing Banishers Ghosts of new Eden, that game at best looks as good as GOW18 did on my base PS4 while at worse looks a generation behind while needing hardware that's 4 times better than the FX 8300 / HD 7850 that was in the PS4, the same can be said for any of the games that came out in that console's later stage (RDR2, Days Gone, TLOU Part 2, Ghost of Tsushima.....), I think the use of ray tracing this gen has ruined the native 1080p standard and the expectations of these next gen consoles in favor of reducing the dev cycle, which is detrimental to the whole industry imo unless you manage to use it and still deliver a good looking game (like Spiderman 2's Insomniac did where they skip waiting hours for light bakes). I think the only games we've had this gen so far to really push the boundary of visuals have been Alan Wake 2, Spiderman 2 and now it seems like Hellblade 2 will also join that list, everything else just doesn't really justify the hardware it asks for imo.

stellar blade has a balanced mode at 60fps that makes other 60fps modes from other games, mainly ff7rebirth and ff16 look like shit. they look shit before but stellar blade just made those games look like the whole septic tank.