Is a Used Yamaha Waverunner Better Than a New One? 1997 Waverunner GP1200 VS 2020 GP1800R HO

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We look at how Waverunners have changed in the past 20 years, and in many ways, how they have stayed the same.
#Waverunner #JetSki #PWC

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@TruckKing
@TruckKing 2 жыл бұрын
We just got our hands on the 2022 Yamaha JetBlaster. See the full review right here! - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b8qWlr2akrGXgJc.html
@ExpeditionaryRanger
@ExpeditionaryRanger 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate a reviewer that actually looks at the value equation and economic comparison here. Good work.
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 3 жыл бұрын
Money matters
@Sm0kingp0wer9
@Sm0kingp0wer9 3 жыл бұрын
Not all of the older PWCs have been taken well cared of as this one. A new one will have all the bells and whistles, the old one will give you problems that you will need to be mechanically inclined to handle. If you want pure fun and a blast.... go for a new one..... if you want to gamble on an older model..... go for an older model. It cost a lot of money to be towed if you break down.
@electricj5
@electricj5 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sm0kingp0wer9 not $13000 for a tow
@Sm0kingp0wer9
@Sm0kingp0wer9 3 жыл бұрын
@@electricj5 Are you buying one from Canada? You should be spending $12,000 on one for an entry level 230
@nickkk420
@nickkk420 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sm0kingp0wer9 mariners law, tows are free, just wave someone down
@stngh8r
@stngh8r 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like the acceleration was a dead heat, newer ski just had more top end. I'd say go used all the way. The smaller skis are a lot more fun to throw around any way.
@ethanmoore3360
@ethanmoore3360 3 жыл бұрын
I think the acceleration was due in part by the 2 stroke as well as the weight. The difference is the 4 stroke won't be as much to maintain and be easier on the fuel. If it's worth the cost difference is another question. I would be curious about a 10 year difference more though since you are looking at something that may be mechanically more similar for not much more than the '97 purchase cost wise.
@grady.stu.8300
@grady.stu.8300 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr. Why $17,500? The only difference is looks and feel. The power and acceleration was almost the same. That price is crazy.
@ethanmoore3360
@ethanmoore3360 3 жыл бұрын
@@grady.stu.8300 when talking about 20yr old you will have more maintenance and a higher chance for breakdowns. I think if you can get a good ski that hasn't just rotted for years used is the good middle ground. I bought a '10 with 650hr on it because in order to have that many hours the maintenance had to be phenomenal. The engine looks better than skis I've seen that are much newer and I won't be upset if something happens to it
@719vol
@719vol 3 жыл бұрын
@@ethanmoore3360 little to no maintenance on a 2-stroke.
@AARDFD
@AARDFD 2 жыл бұрын
Naw. It just gets to the point where it’s one thing after another (repairs). Used is fine if you don’t have the dough, but new is new …
@bbcala9719
@bbcala9719 3 жыл бұрын
That was a great comparison. Just goes to show you a older machine can still hold their own
@wallrecords
@wallrecords 3 жыл бұрын
True that, we bought 2nd hand just service regular, and it’s been faithful for the past 7years..
@dmag1234
@dmag1234 3 ай бұрын
Without a 250 lb dude the GP would have walked the 1800
@dpcummerbund
@dpcummerbund 3 жыл бұрын
Since size, price, and "fun factor" are the biggest differences, I think it would be interesting to compare the old Yamaha to a new Spark.
@JC021963
@JC021963 2 жыл бұрын
It's heavy, longer, bulky, etc. You're not going to ever find something new that's in production that's nimble and light like the 2 stroke hulls were. But they're less durable/take more upkeep.
@akgearhead
@akgearhead 2 жыл бұрын
@@JC021963 I have a 97 gp760, so same hull as the 1200. Sorry, but the spark especially the spark trixx is definitely more nimble. The spark is only 425 pounds which is incredibly light. My gp760 is 470, and the 1200 was 200 pounds more than that.
@jeffbryner5355
@jeffbryner5355 2 жыл бұрын
Haha that 1200 would destroy the spark. Sparks are turds with a old ass style trim system that freestyle stand ups and waveblasters have been using for years. They have as much horse power as a stock 2 stroke gp760. For the price of a spark you could have a older ski that's faster and handles better
@jeffbryner5355
@jeffbryner5355 2 жыл бұрын
@@akgearhead I have a 93 waveblaster with a built gp760 engine in it. The 760 and the spark are both 90hp. I promise you I can walk off amd leave a spark and my ski is only 320lbs and is way more nimble amd handles a hell of alot better then the Tupperware ski lol. You take ur ski and put the handling components and drive train components on it then tell me what's more fun to ride. Sparks are only popular because there less the 10k for most models. They are really just plastic turds. Being a painter/bodyman by trade fiberglass is a hell of alot easier to fix and stronger to repair.
@MrJeepin88
@MrJeepin88 3 жыл бұрын
I love the old ones because you can whip it around and I love that feeling
@neljetski1073
@neljetski1073 3 жыл бұрын
if you want a new one like that i’ve heard that the new small sea doos are like that
@MrJeepin88
@MrJeepin88 3 жыл бұрын
@@neljetski1073 I just blew my engine in my 92 waverunner looks like it’s $800 for the new engine still cheaper than a new ski so I guess I’m going to fix it
@donquias903
@donquias903 2 жыл бұрын
I had a 91 waveblaster. I wish I never sold it. So nimble and fun
@TermlessHGW
@TermlessHGW 2 жыл бұрын
525 lb's and feels nimble....definitely not with him on board fatso
@jdh1047
@jdh1047 3 жыл бұрын
Some of us are tired of modern big block barges. Smaller hulls are more fun in my opinion unless you are going river camping. That old 1200 is plenty stable. They will rock but it won’t actually flip without a lot of effort. If you want to cut just lower the sponson adjusters and drop the nose a little with the trim. Late 90s skis are great. Unfortunately the market fell victim to the buyers wanting more tech goodies and slowly the desire to never get wet. Tech costs money, and so does extra material to make a 2 seat sports barge. So now we have expensive boring barges. It’s no different than the boat culture moving from skiing behind 19ft pleasure crafts to sitting around getting drunk on a 24ft pontoon with 300hp to pull billy on a tube. We need cheaper boats so we can focus on fun. When was the last time you saw someone out cutting around on a scrap plywood disk? If it isn’t a $500 board kids won’t touch it.
@timewa851
@timewa851 3 жыл бұрын
you forgot the 1,000 +watt stereo to draw the lake cops attention . bloated is better. for the sales staff.
@mikestanley4457
@mikestanley4457 3 жыл бұрын
I remember taking the painted plywood disc out. Every time you fell you had to look out because that thing would submerge and then fly up. Go whapped in the head a few times. Grew up on a Malibu sunsetter and that thing was an amazing inboard for the price of a then new Ford Taurus. You can’t get an inboard for under 60k new now and that’s if you’re lucky.
@auralplex
@auralplex 2 жыл бұрын
We have options now. Demand speaks.
@ProjectRaijin
@ProjectRaijin Жыл бұрын
I agree but sadly a saturated market and a customer base that is more casual and trying to accessible to a wider market overall gimmicks and new tech is the only thing that keeps people interested anymore, sad but true, I like the newer hull designs for their stability in the annoying chop of Florida intercostal waters, your take on boats is spot on I am sadly too young to have seen the era where families were fine with a nice 115 powered 19ft skiff to tow their tube I always just stare at people with trips and quads pulling a tube while they also have a skiff with the ability to do the exact same and not destroy the coastal shore lines in some of our sensitive estuaries where these bigger center consoles are just washing the shore away, everything is an opportunity to flex I guess nowadays but I’d also be lying if I’d say I wouldn’t love a Kawasaki Ultra 310lx and a Cape Horn with trip Yamahas to run in the keys and Gulf of Mexico overkill of course but some damn good fun, hope you are well sending well wishes from soflo
@jpegjake
@jpegjake 11 ай бұрын
Damn Skippy Amen, yeah so hard to find great options in boats in the 14-16 foot range! even 17 foot is very limited.
@masterbull7973
@masterbull7973 Жыл бұрын
So awesome to hear... I myself have a '97 gp1200. It's a leftover model, brand new in '98 and I'm the 2nd owner since '99. It has never been stored outdoors and looks as new as it did 25yrs ago. Love my 1200
@lqw3844
@lqw3844 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review! These homest reviews are hard to come by nowdays, most review just praise the hell out of whatever they are reviewing
@warrenprice2137
@warrenprice2137 3 жыл бұрын
Really well done video! I wish more reviews were like this. Great job in showing the differences in new and used and demonstrating the value proporsition of the used unit. Thanks!
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@jeffreybentz7097
@jeffreybentz7097 3 жыл бұрын
Great on point video 👍👍. I love my '99 GP 1200 !!! THE 1st one I bought brand new, the 2nd I bought blown up, stripped it down, fuel tank , foam, everything !!! Completely rebuilt it and will keep it FOREVER 👍👍👍
@johnjackman9356
@johnjackman9356 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your reviews!!! I need a friend, not a salesman when I am parting with, for me, a hell of a lot of money! The COVID thing is weird. I want the Yamaha ex-sport and the dealership has none!!! Talk about a frustrated sales person!!! Thank you for being that friend! What you do helps so many! I would like to think of myself like you! Helping just feels good!!! Thank you!
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@novemberdelta284
@novemberdelta284 2 жыл бұрын
Great insight into the 1997 Wave Runner vs latest model. Thanks for sharing - very inspiring!
@bigblue8986
@bigblue8986 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Close call at the end swerving to left to miss that boat last second 😱
@Tammacazi10
@Tammacazi10 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2003 Seadoo GTX supercharged with upgraded supercharger internals and it cost $3500 total. Had 92 hours on it when we bought it and it runs like a champ. Put almost 30 hours on it this summer and it hasn't had a single issue. Used is the way to go unless you have a ridiculous amount of extra cash to throw at a new ski.
@cooljayah
@cooljayah 3 жыл бұрын
Seadoo...when they go wrong🤔. I had same Gtx, first baby, so I guess plenty to be learnt. Replaced with a waverunner
@c.andrewits2774
@c.andrewits2774 3 жыл бұрын
@@cooljayah yamahas are just so ugly tho. Seadoos do well if they are maintained, no issues with my RXP.
@djcordes4352
@djcordes4352 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the Supercharged in 2003. Sea Doo thankfully warranties out the crappy composite pump for a metal one’
@auralplex
@auralplex 2 жыл бұрын
@@c.andrewits2774 i think the Kawasaki’s are the ugliest because of that big front end. They also got the most dry storage though, so it’s a toss up.
@NorthShoreProductions
@NorthShoreProductions Жыл бұрын
Also have a 2003 Seadoo GTX supercharged. Limited model, such a beast with 117 hours on her now. Hoping to get 250 hours out of it before I replace it.
@paulhaines5755
@paulhaines5755 3 жыл бұрын
Nice vid! I've got an old wave venture and a sea doo GTI. I love having two VERY different machines. It's fun to ride one then go get on the other for a very different feel on the water. If I ever bought a pair of new ones, I think I'd get two totally different machines just for that reason.
@ynot0714
@ynot0714 2 жыл бұрын
In 1988 I bought a Yamaha WR 500. It was right at the beginning of the pwc craze. Took it everywhere from the Ohio river to Cumberland to Lake Erie. Good times. Nice video.
@shawnlewis1356
@shawnlewis1356 3 жыл бұрын
Wow.. what an awesome comparison.. thats pretty amazing ..loved it
@grantmarshall7864
@grantmarshall7864 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video. I own a 1995 701 2 stroke and a 2020 EX. Like you said the new skis are so stable but the older unit will put a bigger smile on your face. The power band given by a 2 stroke engine is a bit like a turbo boost. We have a Riva kit on the older one which makes it pretty nimble.
@gooma27
@gooma27 3 жыл бұрын
Love your reviews! Keep it up. I was going to buy two new pwc this spring but I think I’m going one new one old to save some money. Thanks!
@andrewhahn8351
@andrewhahn8351 Жыл бұрын
I had a 1997 Waveventure with the oil delete kit installed on it. It was my first ski, thing was definitely peppy! I upgraded to a 2015 VX Cruiser. Gotta say I definitely don't mind needing to mix the oil and fuel anymore with the 4 stroke. And the 4 strokes are definitely more like a boat than the old 2 strokes.
@chrispbacon955
@chrispbacon955 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your honest review. Thank you for the information. 😎👍👍
@dfghgcccvgggggvvvv
@dfghgcccvgggggvvvv 3 жыл бұрын
I love the review great video!!!please keep them coming I would love 2 see a lot of old jet skis in a shootout!!!
@MrBunkus1969
@MrBunkus1969 2 жыл бұрын
I started on the early 90's pwc's (polaris SL and SLT's and seadoo XP). what i loved about them is the ability to jump, spin and slide around - like an ATV on dirt. Getting splashed and trying to hold on in a tight spin or turn was the goal lol. IMO, the newer ski's, while they have higher top end speed, are not as high on the "fun factor" for my riding style and what I enjoy - mainly on inland freshwater lakes, usually not more than 24" wakes or waves. The pwc purchase and rebuild/maintenance cost on a simple 2-stroke engine seals the deal for me. Be safe and have fun - just get out and play - whichever route you go.
@davidbolander6186
@davidbolander6186 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Polaris slx 780 that was the funnest ski I ever owned. It just got too expensive to keep it running. I babied that ski for 20 years. Way more fun than the sparks I have now.
@MrBunkus1969
@MrBunkus1969 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidbolander6186 Friend of mine is a polaris nut with a full stockpile of parts to maintain them. He has 6 or 7 polaris ski's currently. 2 or 3 have completely rebuilt zero hour engines ready to go :)
@Operator_Cage
@Operator_Cage Жыл бұрын
100K!!!! Congrats
@HonJazzz
@HonJazzz Жыл бұрын
When you have to pay over 10k for the new one that’s what takes the fun out of it for me. I’ll take one from the 90’s.
@evanstreets8830
@evanstreets8830 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, good to watch 👍
@Rhys_Official
@Rhys_Official 2 жыл бұрын
I brought a Seadoo XP 1993 few months ago, doing it up, new lines, new paint, new seat cover. Cant wait till its finished, its nearly there, its my first ever jet ski, picked up for £500 with a trailer, and 2 engines, which is about $667 dollars
@schawn4925
@schawn4925 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, great talking points as well
@gevorkkeleshyan5352
@gevorkkeleshyan5352 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 98 Yamaha GP1200 and I absolutely loved it. It was an amazing Ski.
@duncanfarrelly7039
@duncanfarrelly7039 3 жыл бұрын
I dig the little yelp at the end an the rapid direction change 😂. My used GP1200 was great for a little while, busy rebuilding and boring it out a bit. Previous owner behaviour plays a big role, mine wasn't flushed nicely after salt water use, repeatedly. I'd definitely request a water test or take a mate who knows more about PWC to check it out. And check hull and engine bay thoroughly. I'd love to buy a new one for my wife and ride the old one myself
@ThomasHegland
@ThomasHegland 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video - I think you hit it on the head. I give this video a perfect 10!! I think I would have compared it to a GP1300R though. More comparable machines. But the result would have probably been similar. Keep up the great content.
@jaymed5228
@jaymed5228 2 жыл бұрын
I just ran one today for the first time and fell in love with it and I’m thinking of getting a used one to
@AbreedApart123
@AbreedApart123 2 жыл бұрын
Some sponsors, an.intake grate and new bars sound like solid investments for an old ski. Recently adopted a freebie 800 in need of some love myself, nice vid!
@nickgallego7309
@nickgallego7309 2 жыл бұрын
A very well done review. Thanks for the information.
@rpeltz
@rpeltz Жыл бұрын
As an relatively experienced rider, I can say that both the new and used pwc's have their uses. My 1995 Yamaha Waveraider 1100 has been an absolute blast since I bought it 18 years ago. It was a steep learning curve because of it's lack of stability but it's so much more nimble. I have ridden newer pwc's like my cousin's supercharged Yamaha and it was far more stable but on a hot day, no matter how you set the trim, you cannot get any water to spray over you or dive it under the surface to cool off. I've got a scoop intake, custom ride plate and an extended racing nozzle on mine, with those mods, I can spin it in circles at idle, get the pwc so far up on plane that I can jump a moderate sized wake and I can trim it down enough at low speed to submerge the entire pwc up past the handlebars. Once submerged like that, it shoots up like a cork and is just a fun experience. The newer pwc's are far far far more stable which is great for more casual riding, for family fun and better for cruising without having to worry about flipping your pwc over. When I was a new rider, I certainly questioned my purchase as I often flipped the pwc or at least launched myself when I would hit a wake at a bad angle at high speed. However the more I rode my pwc, the more comfortable I became with what it was capable of. I bought mine used in 2004 with just the custom ride plate and a single place trailer for less than $4k. The first day that I took it out to a small local lake, we kept getting tipped over in the 3ft waves due to my inability to balance the ski with 2 of us riding it and ended up flooding the entire pwc with water all the way up to the handle bars, I used my emergency flag and got a big bass boat to tow us back to the dock. I winched it up on the trailer and pulled off the seat and had a massive amount of water pour out. I then pulled the drain plugs out and drained most of the rest of the water. That night I used a shop vac to suck out the rest of the water, pulled the spark plugs and used the starter to blow fountains of water out of the engine. We had the pwc out on the water again the next morning and rode all day on calmer water. So to me both pwc types have their own pluses and minuses. It really just depends on how you want to ride and how much you're willing to learn vs wanting to just go out and ride without having to learn nearly as much.
@Landscaper333
@Landscaper333 Жыл бұрын
I have a 97 gp760 and bought in 2020 and used it that summer, didn't use in 21 and just last week late summer of 22 tries to start it and it's locked up. Seems to be that's normal if not used. I was debating buying new but the pricing is crazy. I can afford it but bought the 97 for $3000 with trailer. Was quoted around $600 to free it up. I think in Spring of 23 I'll just fix the old. No need to spend 17k
@rpeltz
@rpeltz Жыл бұрын
@@Landscaper333 In order to prevent any PWC from locking up during periods of non-use it's critical to follow a proper winterization procedure. In particular the use of fogging oil is absolutely critical. In my experience, with my 2 cycle engines, it's a simple process of running the pwc until out of fuel, then removing each of the spark plugs individually and momentarily spraying fogging oil into each cylinder while pressing the starter button for just a moment several times. In addition, I typically fill the oil injection tank to the very top.
@robertlane913
@robertlane913 Жыл бұрын
Yamaha Waveraider 1100. I've still got mine and will never sell it
@reekeen8257
@reekeen8257 6 ай бұрын
​@Landscaper333 The Wave Raider 700 I got was sitting for 12yrs, and the motor was anything but stuck. I would get that checked out haha.
@Jrollinjs19
@Jrollinjs19 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I have a 1998 with the same motor and it still rips!
@Texascudaguy
@Texascudaguy 2 жыл бұрын
My old 98 GP1200 still smokes most the newer high dollar jetskis. Runs 62 on smooth lake and handles great .Paid $900 for it 13 years ago . Best jetski ever made for the balance of price, performance, and durability The older Kawasaki zxi 1100 are great too . Short and will easily fall over if u have 2nd rider on it, but run like scalded ape and performs like a standup ski as a sor down
@UltraMagaFan
@UltraMagaFan 2 жыл бұрын
You want to know what's great about Kawasaki? They still make jetskis with 150 horsepower engines in them. That GP1800R is supposed to be Yamahas high performance jestski and it only has 120. Thats why new Kawasakis smoke new Yamahas. That 30 horsepower makes a difference. I've done 76 on a STX-15F.
@CB-rv2lj
@CB-rv2lj Жыл бұрын
holy shit. Only $900...?
@serhammalot01
@serhammalot01 2 жыл бұрын
A racing intake grate would fix that traction issue on the older ski. I put one on my sea Doo I had and it made a huge difference.
@27Zangle
@27Zangle 3 жыл бұрын
I used to ride a Yamaha 760 back in the day. It was not the fastest because of power and weight, but sure was a lot of fun! I would totally a couple older ones rather than newer. Sadly, where I live now there is nowhere to ride these.
@michaelward9596
@michaelward9596 2 жыл бұрын
Good info. I just bought two 95 waverunners one 1200 & one 700 for $3900 they only have 80 hrs on them and run great very pleased with them.
@jealness
@jealness 2 жыл бұрын
Favorite ski of all time was my Polaris Virage 1200. Maybe because I was younger and more risky but it sure was a blast
@baaamakingbaaaa
@baaamakingbaaaa Жыл бұрын
I used to have that exact same model GP1200. It was a monster. Rapid manual trim would allow you to go from sitting still to airborne the second you hit the throttle.
@CP-kb1du
@CP-kb1du 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the 1200 needs some Sponsons adjustments and the Intake Grate ..
@simonwallace699
@simonwallace699 2 жыл бұрын
A great review/comparison! Must admit I'm a bit conflicted by this. Have owned a '90 Kawi 650SX, a '93 Kawi 750SX, a '98 Waveblaster 1 (AsiaPac only) and now a '92 Waverunner III. I love the lighter weight of the older skis and the simplicity, plus the fact that they're easier to throw around, but the stability of the newer skis is so much better and more enjoyable for the passenger. Not to mention the fuel consumption. As reliable as my old 92 WR3 is, I'm not sure I'd find it fun going offshore for a range of reasons. If you're young and nimble without a family, go a 2-stroke. If you want a bit more comfort, convenience and a better experience for the passenger(s), or a better experience offshore, go a 4 stroke.
@scottyellis3442
@scottyellis3442 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, love the truck videos but this was a nice change up. Good job.👍🏻
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 3 жыл бұрын
More to come!
@bloooning1
@bloooning1 Жыл бұрын
bought my self a 1996 polaris slx 780 and that thing is a riot to take out on the water. my trailer bearing exploded coming back from the UP of michigan and while i was in a gsa station parking lot changing it out, there was an older gentleman that had nothing but praise for these older 90's ski's. he had the same one back in the day and he swore that the old ones were way more fun to ride vs the brand new ones. save a dime and keep the oldies alive
@ericcoleson3867
@ericcoleson3867 2 жыл бұрын
I just purchased an 03 yammy three banger with about 10 hours on a complete rebuild, almost 60 mph top however what a blast 👌, it came with a complete Doner bad engine on a two up trailer for 3g , been out many times!!
@ethanmoore3360
@ethanmoore3360 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 2010 VX this year. It still needs some love but for the price it was a great way to get my family on the water while we look for a boat. For half the price of a new one we put almost 40hrs on the machine including lots of towing. The funny thing is I always thought owning a jetski would be a dumb purchase since you can't bring along as many people and a boat really fits my needs better. My purchase though has fit the bill perfectly.
@auralplex
@auralplex 2 жыл бұрын
Jet skis are more fun imo. It’s less of a social thing and more exhilarating. Boats are cool if you can get drunk on them though, and not get in trouble.
@RiverRat904
@RiverRat904 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a 97 GP1200 when they first came out. Sold it in 2008. Was pretty nasty. About 175hp when I was done with it. What a great boat.
@FrankyRedEyes
@FrankyRedEyes 3 жыл бұрын
Those are weird looking trucks.
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 3 жыл бұрын
Ha! Very true. Despite our name, Truck King is focused on trucks and powersports of all kinds. We've got a unique mix of content compared with most channels we think. Hopefully you enjoy! - Stephen
@scottyellis3442
@scottyellis3442 3 жыл бұрын
Good one,😂😂
@ejwinn7543
@ejwinn7543 2 жыл бұрын
Hah hahaha hahaha. No. Not funny.
@zacktohill1
@zacktohill1 2 жыл бұрын
Water truck.
@johnharmon2986
@johnharmon2986 2 жыл бұрын
Fr
@bodie9676
@bodie9676 23 күн бұрын
Great vid!!!
@duvcardenas2340
@duvcardenas2340 3 жыл бұрын
My husband still has his '97 Waverunner GP1200 that he bought new back then. Fun ski! Guess we're not too concerned about stability as we were riding '96 Waveblasters yesterday. LOL!
@peterburdick50
@peterburdick50 3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this i had a 97 she was fast out the hole never been on a 1800
@johnson7454
@johnson7454 3 жыл бұрын
Being a big guy you have a different in opinion on which unit is fun as well. A smaller guy will enjoy the gp1200 better cause it fits them better
@FlightLogProductions
@FlightLogProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly THIS is the best part of his reviews. That he’s a big beautiful guy! We all know skinny noodles can ride any PWC, but us bigger guys it’s not soo easy, especially deep water reboarding and 2-up riding near full craft capacity! That is why video’s from HIS prospective is SOO important!
@banshee8989
@banshee8989 3 жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head. Americans have gotten bigger and fatter. The manufactures have noticed. With that said.....;. Older PWC only make sense to the mechanically inclined. If don't know the business end of a screw driver, you have no business owning any older marine machine.
@dirtrider88
@dirtrider88 2 жыл бұрын
@@FlightLogProductions its so true, while not as big as him im no lightweight and when i see 150lb on a jet ski i have almost no frame of reference. this is especially true for stand ups which is my jam. unfortunately i dont know of any big guys that ride stand ups, even on youtube.
@brokeboymotorsports5674
@brokeboymotorsports5674 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 94 Yamaha waveraider 700 I love that machine.the smaller machines are just way more fun.cost me $1700 as well so it’s a great bang for my buck
@SuperDcopeland
@SuperDcopeland 3 жыл бұрын
My nephew has a 94 waveraider 701. Its almost as fast as my gp1200. But it dont handle like the gp. He usually gets me on choppy water because of the way my gp jumps out of the water in chop.
@jerrygsvt
@jerrygsvt 3 жыл бұрын
Dave C. - I totally agree. My 99 GP1200 handles great but is so light that it doesn’t want to stay in the water. The Waveraider just slices thru choppy water like a torpedo.
@sherlocksmacker
@sherlocksmacker 3 жыл бұрын
Love my 96 raider and my 95 spx nothing is more fun then throwing around one of these skis
@bluegrassbassing3790
@bluegrassbassing3790 2 жыл бұрын
Got my sub great vid
@FlightLogProductions
@FlightLogProductions 3 жыл бұрын
I love your video’s because you address what all us REAL customers/riders want to know! Virtually every KZfaqr/reviewer out there only touches on the SALES points and what the manufacturers want them to highlight. My favorite part is you showing the stability while not moving. NO one does that, I am a big guy, This is the type of stuff *I* want to know. Can I ask a favor? Can you shoot a video getting on one of these GP1800R/VX from deep water? Also, if it’s not too personal post rider weight. So we can compare how the unit(s) may react to our own weight. I’d also love to see one of these newer GP1800/VX models and the FX model, with near full weight capacity, how stable is it still? Can 2 full grown adults reboard in deep water? These are the REAL questions!
@TexasStormChaser
@TexasStormChaser 3 жыл бұрын
He had the GP1800R in learning mode, probably unknowingly. Had the 1800R been not in low mode, this video would have been comical. The 1800R would have been bus lengths ahead in the drag race and has a top speed of over 20mph faster.
@BruceXP
@BruceXP Жыл бұрын
i personally think the old skis are better fior the fact that they are so light and want to throw you off. I race my 1996 seadoo xp800 and once you get some time with the ski and you will feel really comfortable. Its a lot of fun to do twists and turns when your just playing around.
@quazimotoscopick7085
@quazimotoscopick7085 2 жыл бұрын
Good turn away from the pontoon boat there athe end Nice video dude
@jessebam-bam7951
@jessebam-bam7951 3 жыл бұрын
This is a very good video thanks for letting me see the difference .
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@craigaustin4779
@craigaustin4779 3 жыл бұрын
I have owned a 2001 XLT 1200 and now use a FX HO Cruiser, both excellent, the new one is a better touring machine, lots of new features, the reverse controls on the new ones are amazing.
@DanielNebergall
@DanielNebergall 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2000 kawasaki 1100 and i wondered what the benefits to upgrading to a newer unit would be. Thanks for the awesome explanation and the stability demonstration standing in one footwell leaned towards center. Ypu are right old ones cant even dream of that
@jeffh4505
@jeffh4505 2 жыл бұрын
I have an 01 ZXI1100, and it's a blast to ride, but the fun factor goes way down in a hurry when the chop picks up, unless all you're doing is playing around. We use ours on the St Lawrence River in the 1000 Islands, and there's some big water and waves from freighters and large boats that really jacks up the chop later in the day. A modern ski is a LOT more fun for touring that time of day, but nothing beats how nimble the ZXI is.
@MP-po4fp
@MP-po4fp 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. My dad bought a brand new wave runner 3 in 93 and still have to this day. I think a 97 would be a good addition to it and it doesn’t break the bank.
@TedVanSlyck
@TedVanSlyck 2 жыл бұрын
At 7:18 they both take a small wave and ride significantly different. I felt that was illuminating.
@jonalirez6710
@jonalirez6710 3 жыл бұрын
I started with one 97 GS last summer. I now have 3! Also nice that when one does have issues (as all things new or old do...) we have spares for towing as well as continued fun at the lake. End of the day, I likely do have a few more things to fix but all in, I have 3 toys for the price of 1. *Results may vary ;-)
@togish1
@togish1 3 жыл бұрын
I purchased a 98 gp760 last summer and it was a blast! But... Once a 2nd person, my wife, got on with me, the ski became very unstable at idle and low speeds. It was very uncomfortable for the both of us... So that day we learned a 2 seater is really a 1 seater...needless to say I just sold it last week and purchased a friend's 2016 vx limited. I can't wait to get back out there with a newer ski!
@brendangustafson9592
@brendangustafson9592 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 97 gp1200 and 96 wave venture 1100 they are both are a blast love them!!
@bokidusanic7084
@bokidusanic7084 Жыл бұрын
great review
@randomrob3889
@randomrob3889 Жыл бұрын
This is why I bought a spark just to chuck around and its awesome for wave jumping I've had it in 4m swells once won't be doing that again because I was on my own
@dustinpaysour6381
@dustinpaysour6381 3 жыл бұрын
I subscribed to the channel, love this content👍🏻 I have not gone through all your videos to see if you did one but I would like to see a used vs. new Sea-Doo comparison 👍🏻🤙🏼 Have a great day, looking forward to future content.
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@ericdeven1296
@ericdeven1296 3 жыл бұрын
For me, its definitely gonna be used. If l had the new expensive one ld be too afraid of scratching it. Whereas the older one, ld drive over small things and up on the shore cuz its for fun. Good job with the comparison.
@ogbm4338
@ogbm4338 3 жыл бұрын
@@2cautious And you’re rich?
@richardshort5406
@richardshort5406 Жыл бұрын
I have 5 Sea doo machines, received a 2001 GP1200R as payment for a repair, The 1200R has a 155 Hp motor, 65 MPH two stroke, lots of fun never going to let it go.
@i2rtw
@i2rtw 3 жыл бұрын
We have a some older Waverunners ‘92-‘94 LX, VXR, VXR PRO, and a 3. They are a ton of fun especially the LX with its light weight and flat hull. It loses traction in a blink. And they are all 650 or 700 cc class.
@zychrias
@zychrias 3 жыл бұрын
I have an 01, and 02 1200 XLT. They are awesome and I've never wanted something newer.
@barrybenson2840
@barrybenson2840 3 жыл бұрын
Ty for your review buying my first used pair
@TruckKing
@TruckKing 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help
@lyinginbed
@lyinginbed 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 96 spi with a few goodies I love the look on peoples faces at wot when I start pulling away from their new toy!
@bluegrassbassing3790
@bluegrassbassing3790 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid great idea
@SuperForeman450
@SuperForeman450 Жыл бұрын
I have an old wave raider and it’s tiny, but it’s so much to kick it out and drift around
@archon612
@archon612 3 жыл бұрын
Both have pros. My biggest thing where I am at since I don't live on a lake is reliability. If I can't rely on my Ski to perform all day without issues it isn't fun. Having to get towed back to the boat ramp really ruins the day. Having a reliable ski is more important than anything else, the newer machine may win at this. Maintained skis will last a long time. Flush after salt water rides. Oil and plug changes every 40-50 hours. The new GP1800 will need the supercharger clutch replaced eventually. Mine went at 224 hours.
@Brian-cr6rb
@Brian-cr6rb 3 жыл бұрын
I was shopping in 2008 for an upgrade on my 92 Yamaha 650LX. I took a 2006 Honda FX12 turbo on a test drive. When I left the dock, naturally, I squeezed the throttle, ya know, all the way. The ski shot right off my ass and left me behind. As I floated in the river, I collected my self, looking at the owner who was laughing hysterical, I said I'LL TAKE IT!. After 12 years now, still having wonderful adventures! No mechanical failure outside of the gas tank recall. Still can't believe how far PWCS have come, but the prices are insane! A few dollars more will get you into an entry level boat! But there's always the teamwork factor. That's why I'm a PWC guy all the way.
@eazypic
@eazypic 2 жыл бұрын
I still have a 97 Gp1200 and a 2k 1200R. I used to have a 99 GP1200. Hands down the 97 is my favorite. I do tricks on this thing a day long. Quick as hell too. The 1200r is bigger so that helps, it's faster with the Riva parts installed, but they're 2 different skis. The 97 is still one of the most sought after too.
@jamesantonacci888
@jamesantonacci888 3 жыл бұрын
Well done review, I would of touched on the 2 stroke aspect a bit more. Having to add and buy oil seperatly and compared fuel consumption. Besides that though, great review.
@rogertoledo478
@rogertoledo478 3 жыл бұрын
Great content. I owned the 98 and 97 GP1200 for many years. We used them during hurricane storms in S. FL to Jump waves. Try jumping a 15 to 25 wave with a 1800. You won't make it to 5 feet in the air.
@jerrygsvt
@jerrygsvt 3 жыл бұрын
I agree Roger. I have a 99 GP1200...bought it brand new and I still have it. It’s great for jumping hurricane waves and my friends brand new skis are like driving a concrete block plowing thru the wave.
@MyKfactor
@MyKfactor 3 жыл бұрын
Had my 97 GP1200 for 20 years. Only use it in the sea. Bullet proof. What a Machine.
@blumix5441
@blumix5441 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid, you should focus more on jetskis too
@alexbetts8291
@alexbetts8291 Жыл бұрын
I had the same year gp1200 and i loved it because it was analogue but getting back on it was hard for a 100kg person
@rolfbach2721
@rolfbach2721 2 жыл бұрын
Wish you did it with skidoo!! But yamaha also cool great vid man!!
@freedomisntfree_44
@freedomisntfree_44 3 жыл бұрын
The older skis last if taken care of, we had some older Kawasaki’s and they were a blast
@djdannyray
@djdannyray 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison.
@ronstaerker8657
@ronstaerker8657 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2000 Yamaha SUV1200 and it was classified as a "touring" jetski because it has major storage and stability and is rated for 4 passengers. The side rail storage can fit water skis. My son rode it from LA to Catalina Island. However, some lakes are restricting 2-stroke engines so check out local lake conditions before buying an older 2-stroke.
@marsbars96
@marsbars96 3 жыл бұрын
I also had a 04 suv 1200 I have never flipped that thing over in my life And it ripped too Most stable ski I ever had
@UnixGoldBoy
@UnixGoldBoy Жыл бұрын
My friend just got a used 1997 Sea-Doo GTI 3 Seater on Craigslist for about $3,500 and it is fantastic! He did have to put new spark plugs and battery in it and has to mix oil and fuel he says for some reason due to it being some kind of best practice to not use the oil pump in that generation, but other than that, it is a LOT of fun!
@kenkuchnicki9012
@kenkuchnicki9012 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison
@TruckKing
@TruckKing Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@365JohnDoe
@365JohnDoe 3 жыл бұрын
Kawasaki ultra 180! Such a great classic! 180hp back in like 06 was so fun! They don't build them that awesome anymore power to weight ratio it so important on the holeshot
@tommeelam7707
@tommeelam7707 2 жыл бұрын
1 bought a 1997 one back in 2007 and it needed some work. Ie curb rebuild, tune up and that was it. Recently put in a new pump. Still runs like new. It only cost me 1500. Everyone who rides it loves it more than my brand new vx 110.
@Ken-or7gf
@Ken-or7gf 3 жыл бұрын
With you on the 1200 the weight gotta be pretty close! Good video
@robertleonard3700
@robertleonard3700 Жыл бұрын
I bought a 96 Yamaha 5 yrs ago, been very reliable and fun. A primer button would definitely be beneficial,as it takes a little bit to get it started initially. I've rode newer runners and to me the seem more like driving a boat, the Yamaha can turn sharper, you can submarine it and throw it around like a dirt bike.
@Ef-Dog585
@Ef-Dog585 3 жыл бұрын
Those late 90's skis are great. Not many left around.
@stickywilliams2820
@stickywilliams2820 3 жыл бұрын
Snagged a xl1200 Yamaha for $2000 last summer, completely satisfied despite it being used
@anthonyromano6921
@anthonyromano6921 3 жыл бұрын
99 Ultra 150. Had one back in 06. It was a complete beast. Currently have a 2020 gp1800r SVHO. Ultra is still my favorite.
@christhompson3500
@christhompson3500 3 жыл бұрын
I'm that Guy!lol I had a 1999 ultra 150 it smoked Everything!I would love to see it run against ski of today. I bet she more then hold her own. Always tempted to buy one again if I could find one
@ericlechleitner74
@ericlechleitner74 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2000 gp 800 and also a 2017 hp 1800R ......honest opinion.....I love them both! The newer ski is definately faster and more of an adrenaline rush when hitting the throttle, more storage, looks cooler, more stable with 3 riders, and it has the R.I.D.E which makes docking and staying in one place better. I paid 11,800 for it. The older one I paid 2,500 for, but I love how I can throw it around the waves. I love how you can get some air when wave jumping and its definately safer for kids and new riders to be on. the newer ski is more dangerous because of its size and acceleration, especially if the lake is busy. I also noticed that when riding side by side we seem to always match gas consumption, no matter what speed we are riding at....so I dont see much difference from 2 stroke to a 4 stroke as far as saving gas. I do have to always check oil in the older, but it's not that hard to add when filling up. Older ski does 55 tops, while new one does close to 70.....BUT when you learn to stay off the throttle of a supercharger, you learn to ride at slower speeds, so theres not much difference there. I say it like this.....the older ones are more snappy like a dirt bike on the water, while the newer one is more like a crotch rocket.....so I'm happy owning both and use each ski different according to the conditions of the water. New ski for cruising....older ski for getting crazy and wave jumping......hope this helps comment readers....
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