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This is absolutely the series PinkBike SHOULD have done! Great videos man!

Key points you neglected to mention: - coil shocks require less maintenance due to fewer seals (coil vs air spring) and ultimately can be cheaper to own; - setup is NOT more difficult as you just select the coil based on weight and riding style, in fact, EXT will do it for you using a survey when you buy new, damper adjustments are the same and most manufactuers will give you suggested settings for the spring rate; - not all frames are well suited to coil shocks;

loving this series, you’re doing a great job with it evan!

You're doing a really good job with this series. Very realistic of what experienced riders will do either way depending on their wants and budget.

Worth it and worth it.. What else are you going to do with the money? I mean you could save up, pay for stuff for your kids, college tuition, almost a used car, or some overpriced sofa that your wife tells you that you "need". Or! You get a bling rear shock (With performance way higher than your riding abilities) to impress your mtb buddies. The choice is obvious.

Not sure how you climbed 25,000 feet to the top of South Mountain. ;) Great video. These are so much better than the Pink Bike version. It really gives me some insight as to what upgrades really make a difference.

Really great series Evan! Another class video. Giving great insight into value for $ parts! Happy Tuesday ☕️

Short term suspension isn't a huge issue, but on any sustained course the more forgiving the suspension the less wear on the body and rider. Everything in biking is a trade off. Love the series Evan.

I personally believe that you should have got both air shock or both coil shock to make it a fair test

It is confirmed that he watches Dount Media

The correct way to tighten bolts/nuts is to use the torque wrench on the nut. You won't get a true reading by using it on the bolt.

I'll say when I first started riding with my EXT I didn't think it was very poppy. However, some adjustments to the compression and it was just as poppy as my air shock. Overall, I'd pay the money for it and not even question it. More-over, it's made me not want to buy a bike that can't run a coil. I'm completely sold.

I had issues with the same RS Monarch Plus, and I came across a used EXT Storia, the PO had the same bike as mine, so tuned. Yes!!! Worth it! Actually, I bought the whole frame minus the broken rear end, which I'm using since it is a better fit. As far as set-up, once you have the right spring to achieve the desired sag, it's not much different to set up the compression and rebound. I don't have to faff around with air anymore.

I really gotta make sure that i subscribe to you because i've both stripped out my cranks and have had my bike fall of the car! Both felt terrible and i dont wanna experience that ever again, so subscribe to Evan!!!!

Big question any one needs to a answer before you swap to coil is wether your frame suspension design is designed to accommodate a coil. Many suspension curves are designed around the progressive nature of an air spring, particularly in shorter travel bikes. This may account for why the EXT worked well in the bumps and traction department with the polygon, but not in the drop test. This is also where the EXT custom tuning really comes to the fore as they use that to deal with the linear draw backs of a coil.

Its like hi/low from donut but for bikes instead of cars i absolutely love it

The EXT Storia v3 is great shock, I have one. But mine has spherical bearings so the shock can tilt. Less stiction. I did not find the shock to be hard to set up. Buy i dont know how yours feels. Mine felt great. But I see you defenitly was satesfied with the rough stuff. I have the Ext Era fork too, but there is a v2 version out. Also air shock coming soon.

This series is so fun to watch! Great video!

Love what you’re doing. Super stoked to know that you are a fellow nurse. Keep it up.

DVO Topaz is the perfect shock to still have an air shock but with that coil feel. Would be cool to have a review on it

Another solid video. Good coverage of the coil shock. The performance seemed incomparable but yes, the setup looked rough and buying second hand is a wild card. Carbon rims next? Can't wait! Was curious what your day job was. Thanks!

This was great! I love the practicality of it. Sure the coil is better but $800 better? You nailed it!

0:34 This is not an extra oil reservoir, it's a gas filled chamber (nitrogen) to were the oil can expand when it's getting hotter. This equals the pressure inside the shock. 1:07 Time to use a Titan spring. This test lacks of reason. You can also buy air-shocks for over 1000$. A compairson between low and high airshock and low and high coilshock would make morte sense. In the end you can use a coilshock even when there's no oil in it. An airshock without air ends in walking home (or you have always a spare shock in your pocket).

I had the Monarch RC3 on my Banshee, and yes I had it rebuilt multiple times. Swapped it out for a Fox DHX2, what a revelation, coil every time for me.

The monarch plus was also unlocked, so you're guaranteed "pedal bob" as you weirdly called it, if you'd of switched it into climb mode for the climb, you'll of found that there is next to no squish, just enough to stop them harder hits sending the flex somewhere else on the bike.

Great videos Evan still tuned for the series on what’s next keep up the good work

Really love the way you did this series. I think I actually prefer the look of the low bike with the fork that matches the frame color lol

“OoOOoOOooOhH kashima! :O”

6:39 made me snort and laugh 😂

Wow those two extra springs sure are cool. I'd bet whomever sold them to you is a real shredder.

I LOVE my RC3. Fitted perfectly on my ol 2010 Giant Faith, Easy to keep an eye on as the O-Ring drops off the end of the well printed piston if it gets a little low on air.. and I have added air 2-3 times in as many years it has been on there.. about time I did it's 1st service, very little oil leakage.. Ok I'm not abusing the Faith as it was designed (I'm a 54yo mediocre MTB'er) but it survives 1m drop to flat etc and still feels plush. It came unboxed from a US dealer, I'm guessing it was an upgrade offcast of a new bike as it was in mint condition, yet cost about $140 US delivered to NZ. (Ok, Just before Covid like the bike) That bushing tool looks soo much easier than the bolt and socket set I use... 5:16 to be fair, if the video is the actual climb for the RC#... it appears it was left on low compression where High is an almost lockout (but thats what I love... "Almost" means it still deflects those roots/rocks you can't avoid on the often smooth climbs. I'm looking to retro a Morse cable so I can change the compression at a flick from the handle bars... Maybe at the same time I make a hydraulic trigger for my dropper...

I bought a used ext storia from a 95kg speci enduro (very progressive kinematic) rider. With the new coil it isn't even much cheaper than a new one... Now I bought a custom to my bike (linear single pivot) ext and the difference is noticable.

The "what's that? How much die you spend?" Gets me every time🤣

On one of those hill bikes having that 300$ one would 100% sell your bike quicker ...I mean that 1100$ one just look cheap with that spring and don't think it add any spring action value that much either

This current series is awesome and funny! I bought my son a 2021 D5 and its been fun upgrading it.

I just switched to a coil last week and I don't think that I can ever go back haha

I think most people would agree that an air shock is better for the average mountain biker. If you’re bike came with a nice coil shock and it’s the right Spring Rate for your riding style and weight then consider yourself very lucky. But an air shock will be easier to adjust and get set up properly for the average person.

I LOVE the feel of my DHX2 coil... my bike feels so planted compared to the X2 I had on before! Definitely worth the upgrade IMO!

How can iget channel membership, mine doesn't have the join button next to the subscribe button

Pumped to have met you and looking forward to your next release on Hi/Low Bike Challenge. Thanks for the tip on the Z2 Bomber. My son made the adjustment. 👊🏼

100% better than pink bike, nice video man hope you gain more subs so you can buy more parts and upload more

Yeahhhhhh i love the low setup.

Evan, I love your videos, best thing to watch on the down time down in the field!

"Pro-tip" for the Air Shock: set the lever to firm for a firmer ride when climbing ;)

LOL this reminds me of Hi low on donut media😂

“Hey so there’s this great new shock I found and I think you gonna like it,” “Really?? How much does it weigh?” “Well that’s the thing it’s actually a pound heavier.

I woulda liked to see a Marzoci coil on the low

donutmedia but in bikes :DD even the same music. love it

I love your siskiu D5 videos bro!!!

We really need to realize how good Evan is doing with this series, so far every test he has gone above and beyond to give us fair results!

Evan man where do you get your money your spending so much money but still it’s entertaining and we all learn something from cheap vs expensive your videos are really good keep up the good work

man this series is gonna explode in popularity

i love coil, simple to maintain. i was and used to air shock, but my friend keeps asking me to try using coil, and yes im not regreting it , i use öhlins. So perfect

Quote of the century: Ooo kashima!

Absolute fire as usual Evan, STILL SERIOUSLY HYPED FOR NEXT EPISODE

didnt know ure a nurse !!!!!! respect!!!

OH MY GOD I'VE JUST DISCOVERED YOUR CHANNEL AND I LOVE YOUR CONTENT I NEEDED THIS FOR MY BUDGET MOUNTAIN BIKE 😭

A coil shock can be a down side if it is not compatible

this is the donut media of bikes

I bought an EXT storia Lok V3(the exact one in the video) new from suspension syndicate and custom tuned for my bike and riding experience/style. I can absolutely tell you right now that you will almost ALWAYS be fine with something as simple as a rockshox deluxe air shock. It's not the coolest thing in the world to rip around on one of those things but it literally does NOT matter how nice of a bike you have if you don't have the skill to push the equipment hard enough to make it worth it. One thing that EXT tries to make VERY clear when you're buying their stuff is that you NEED to ride the coil shock very hard because it is tuned for racing unless you specify otherwise. I ride hard and am very confident in the air and in loose terrain but the skill that it takes to REALLY make the shock wake up is kind of crazy and well beyond me. Yes, it's an amazing shock, yes you should go buy one if you have the money because if it's traction that you're looking for then it doesn't really get much better than that but i can also promise you that unless youve been riding for years and are in tune with the way your bike rides and what you want out of it, you probably won't be able to discern a $700 difference in the two

If it's not tuned for your bike, it doesn't really work. I went for the new E-Storia and I'd say it's worth it, if you keep the bike for a long time. If you buy and sell your bikes every year, you may go for another. By the way, if you buy the Storia V3 from EXT directly, they tune it for you, give you some suggestions on the base setting and there are two springs included. I've bought two of their shox already and it has always worked out for me.

before buying a used shock, make sure that servicekits a still available. No Roco or swinger for example...

I have also ridden both of these shocks on the same frame and you are insane to say the Monarch can even compare to the Storia. Your tests are clearly flawed as this was a shock in need of service, used, and leaking. On top of that selecting the proper coil does 65% of the setup. From there if you dont understand high and low speed compression that is for you to learn not the responsibility of the manufacturer. A high end air shock has all the same adjustments so " More user friendly" would heavily depend on the model of shock.

Would love to see you ride another coil shock, I love mine.

Now I'm your new fan 💥

Me installing bushings, hammer 😂😂😂

evan , for the budget bike you should've gotten a Bomber Cr Coil rear shock , and painted the coil red so it matches the color scheme

Why does it feel like I'm watching a Donut Media high low video lol

Don't know if available for your Siskiu D and coil, but the way to go for much easier setup and resistance to bottoming out alike, is a progressive and adjustable coil spring from Sprindex.

I like the donut style vids

Now you just have to change the frame !

almost 30k! keep up the great work brother

Buenisimo Evan!! Vamos con un video en español!!

These videos make my day

the coil is more work at the start but is fit and forget

I feel so bad using a $8 coil with only preload adjustment on my 90s mtb after seeing the $1100 coil shock

So this is basically a MTB version of Donut Media’s Hi-Low?

I've found that a coil generally is only better if the bikes suspension curve is appropriately progressive to make up for it's linear nature and depending on the type of trails your ride the bike on. I have a Push 11/6 on my Evil Wreckoning, but that is a $1100 shock, you can get similar performance/adjustability with a Fox DHX2 for a lot less, which I have also used and is great. You can get a more plush and ground hugging feel with a air shock upgrade generally by going to a air shock with a larger volume like the Fox X2/Ohlins TTX that while not coil like plush and sensitive, splits the difference between a coil and most other air shocks. Even a change from a Fox DPX2 to a Float X offers a significant different feel (My most recent upgrade on my Canyon Spectral 29).

Air suspension is a better sacrifice parts because it absorb a lot of stresses cause ny the impact,while coils might not be good on absorbing many stresses due to a sudden impact. What do you call when oil heats up on the air suspension?

Yes, my PUSH Eleven Six is worth every one of the 1,200.00 bucks I spent on it. No question.

Good work! Enjoyed the reviewage!

There are also cheap coil shocks that perform really good, just with less settings. For example: Marzocchi Bomber CR

@evans MTB saga fade isn't related to air vs coil. This is an incorrect Statement. The reservoir & heat management of the shock are responsible for having (or not having) fade. Not the type of spring the shock uses.

do u think u can make a video on how u adjusted the spring shock

I put the rockshox ultimate with a megneg air can on my DH rig. Combine that with needle bearings and the bike is almost boring on the tech stuff.

this is basically donut media for mtb

I love your videos bro. And also, I know that buy used is risky, I recently bought a used and I broke it after two rides, I was so sad because I save money for a long time for get my first full suspension (and I bought it used because the new are too expensive). Sometimes people is not honest at all. I hope you can repair the shock, regards from a Mexican fan!

Nice video my fellow Rider/nurse

Like the berm preak t-shirt

You should make a video of upgrading a polygon Siskui T7??

Best explanation I've seen for how a coil shock differs from an air shock. I still don't think I'd spend the $$$$ for a Push ElevenSix

when it comes to hard riding, coil shocks are the way to go

You owe it to yourself to get the vorsprung tractive upgrade on the monarch plus! Do it :D makes for great content too!!!

Nc work man! You have a new subscriber! Cheers

I wouldn't say that all of coil shocks are harder to set up. You just picked a shock with a ton of adjustments and there are air shocks on the market with similar amounts of adjustment options and there are coil shocks that have just compression and rebound (for example marzocchi bomber cr or rock shox deluxe coil series). But otherwise great vid

A better pound 4 pound test would have been, same shock in air and coil, like the RS deluxe air vs Coil.

wait, i have an idea! may be you should try to make a MAGNETIC shock

Thank you for these distinctive videos and Wago to communicate well in the future

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