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I believe that Nihilis is recovering after nearly killing himself. He attempted to devour the exile and it ended up backfiring and disrupted the connection between his mask and his "body" possibly draining him of all his power. If he is buried on Korriban then the dark side energy would be an iv drip compared to the planets he ate, there's nothing there other than the ghosts in the tombs, animals, or scavenger that wanders in. It would take centuries for him to return to his full strength.

Personally, I'd love to see Nihilus return in a new story set after Return of the Jedi. The galaxy believed the line of the Sith ended with Darth Vader and Darth Sidious, so how terrifying would it be to have a Sith from over 4,000 years ago take up the mantle?

I would've loved to see him in The Clone Wars. Like, imagine a story about some Jedi or planets being drained misteriously of the Force only to find someone being possessed by the Mask of Nihilus attempting to regain power. I see it like a fusion of the Mortis Arc and the Yoda going to Morriban/Korriban arc

Bring him back in canon? I don't know how Disney feels about allusions to drug addiction. If they do bring her back then what I would probably scrutinize the most would be how they go about defeating him. I'm still waiting on Chris Avellone to explain why he thinks Revan would defeat Nihilus. But I'm guessing it's by means of some sort of manipulation.

Interesting. I never considered that, but it absolutely makes sense, and it does offer story potential. Still, for me, I always figured that Nihilus was destroyed by Meetra. Meetra and Nihilus were the same after all, in some respects. Meetra was the one being that Nihilus couldn't consume. They both had an affinity for Force bonds, and those bonds gave them strength in wildly different ways. Their battle wasn't so much a lightsaber duel or some epic Force battle, but rather a battle of will. The difference between them was that while Nihilus was a victim who succumbed to the hunger, Meetra had the strength to turn away from it, instinctively cutting herself off from the Force despite how awful such an act was. In that sense, I always figured that Meetra just sort of...'willed' Nihilus to death through the Force? Dispelled his spirit? Sent him to the Shadow Realm? God knows.

Depends on what is considered living and dead in the SW universe. I personally think he died long ago on the world of Malachor V. Hmm, just came to the realization that the three Sith Lords of Kotor 2 are all dead to some extent.

I want to see a star wars film centred around a crime boss finding Darth Nihilus mask and either keeping it as a sort of decoration or actually putting it on and utilizing its power to lead his criminal empire. You could have a bunch of jedi desperately trying to fight this crime lord in attempt to stop the mask.

Darth Nihlius is way better than all the villains from the Disney/EA Star Wars era

We share the same point of view. I actually used this scenario back I think ten or fiveteen years ago when I wrote my fan-novel. It was basically a horror story with Darth Nihilus as the big bad. I never considered him dead. Just contained....trapped within the mask.

Well... There is a datamined banner from SWTOR 7.0 that has a stylized depiction of what looks to be Nihilus... So 7.0 might have something to do with Nihilus and a Sith named Darth Nul...

His spirit continues and is now Darth Jar Jar the immortal.

I'm gonna be honest, the thought of a dormant force of hunger that can consume the entirety of the force in the galaxy is a scary thing to think of. I'd say if he ever did come back and gained enough power the crisis might be on the same level as abeloth in legends.

If Nihilus feeding on Korriban's nexus is true... The Darth Plagueis novel explicitly says that Korriban's dark side presence has been significantly diminished over the centuries...

imagine what Obsisian could have done or could do with KOTOR 2 if there was no time limite to make the game. and yes i would like to see Darth Nihlus return in the future. id like to hear the story we were supposed to get.

Nihilus is by far my #1 favorite character. I would love to see him in new content, but I would be very afraid of them gimping him because the good guys always have to win in Star Wars and Disney definitely isn't going to change that.

I think in some way he can. If we take his remains disappearing as becoming one with the Force, any future Wounds in the Force channel the presence of Nihilus from the netherworld of the Force and become him in a way.

I wonder how many Star Wars tabletop GMs used Nihilus's mask as a macguffin,plot device etc.

“I saw a man, nothing more” has got to be one of my favorite lines from Kotor 2. The idea that such a mythical fear would be humbled to what was really behind the mask, an addict to power.

Darth Nihilus is simply a presence in the force, he has no physical form or body. I always thought of Nihilus’ explosion on the ravager as the Exile’s Force wound healing, he attempts to feed on the exile and fails to because of their wound. The exile’s wound either is healed at that point or after Malachor - feeding on the wound caused the opposite.

As someone who hasn't delved much into the Legends or Video game lore to much, never heard of this guy, but gotta say this character and lore is cool as heck! Great break down my dude :)

Great video fam I love these deep dives and lore in general especially in the Kotor universe keep up the great work. I always loved Darth Nihlus's design and wish he had more time to be fleshed out.

Nah he ain't dead, he'll be back. He will find a way, they always do. Oh, so placing the mask on yourself grants you remarkable power? *Majora's mask theme intensifies* But seriously though, big sad that the mask isn't an equipable item in-game.

You’re the only KZfaqr I hit like on before I finish the vid. Always great stuff man.

Wait...shall I rise to power again? Aside from that now I know what the red explosion meant: all the energy, all the lives that he had consumed, they were separated and freed from his spirit.

I’m surprised you didn’t bring up the fact Darth Nihilus holocron is still around during the legacy era, with the potential implications that it might have his essence stored inside of it waiting to possess another vessel like Darth indedu’s did in said story.

Personally I think Darth nihlius is still alive wether is in a tomb on korriban or as a specter I think he just chose not to come back in a physical form. Plus we have to remember he was on malichor V when the mass shadow generator was activated the first time and was touched by it. That’s when his physical body died snd he went on to become what we encounter in KOTOR II.

This guy is awesome love your work my friend. Would love your opinion on what a wound in the force actually is and how it travels and effects its surroundings

Great video! I like to think he lays dormant in the mask, waiting for a strong enough host. Kinda like venom!

this guy is the Ultimate Sith Lord imo. noone can surpass him. i'd love to see him come back.

Even if not as you said I don’t think he wouldn’t want to come back if he comes back he will be hungry again and the force would probably intervene in someway to stop him like it sent Anakin to stop Palpatine as he’s a threat to the force itself

I feel like if nihilus returned, everything would be over.

I wonder what would happen if he takes off his mask, or robes. Would it be like a nazgul from LOTR, or is it just impossible

Here before it turns out that Darth Nul in Swtor turns out to be Nihlus and Malgus has either found his mask or a way to free himself of his body like Nihlus has managed to do.

Was always asking myself "how do you kill someone without a body that is already dead?", now i know that they just simply didn't because it is literally not possible. Thank you for this information. And i find the explanation with korriban plausible, at least from my perspective. I would love to see his tomb though, imagine if someone could figure out to speak his language again or give him his holocron to decrypt it

I’d be interested in seeing Nihilus make a return, it would just be a question of how. There is talk of a KOTOR remake that might be able to do something, or they could find a way to work him into something else from the Old Republic era. Or they could find a way to re-introduce him through an Easter Egg in something. Maybe in the Ashoka series she could find some holocron or other artifact connected to Nihilus. If indeed we didn’t truly kill Nihilus that could open up some interesting opportunities for him to play a role at a later time. Like maybe Palpatine tried to recover his mask in order to understand his power.

My friend amazing and astounding video!!!! I've always found Darth Nihilus a fascinating and sad character. I did see Darth Nihilus die on the Ravager after being defeated by Meetra Surik. Visas Marr approached his dead body then he disappeared but then saw a Force Ghost of a man, this I saw in Darthycey's videos. I would assume Darth Nihilus is dead but it's possible since he's wound in the force maybe in some way he could be alive Darth Nihilus reminds me again of someone else who in some way suffered a lot of pain like him. Nihilus was a Jedi during the Mandalorian Wars and the fall out of the Mass Shadow Generator on Malachor V changed him to become a monster. This other Jedi who reminds of Nihilus suffered a lot of pain in his life too, first the death of his mother and his beloved wife started his downfall to the dark side. After fighting his former Master and losing some of his limbs, he was encased in an armored suit so he could life and be a powerful Sith Lord. Nihilus's infliction to consume the force to life and his anger was like this other former Jedi because his anger and rage of his broken body being in a metallic suit that made him more machine than man and living with the pain of the lose of his loved ones

Korriban always felt like a graveyard world. There are a lot of Sith spirits there. Remember Kotor 1, when we met Ajunta Pall? Maybe Korriban is some sort of hell, where self guilt keeps the spirits from leaving it. Maybe once you are buried there, you are bound to the dark side nexus and cannot leave it so easy.

I'm all for bringing characters into canon. In legends I think this is a fun place to come up with stories, maybe he wanted to come back but it just took so much time to get a physical form that it couldn't happen until the legacy era, maybe there was a sect of the sith that wanted to bring him back and searched for a powerful vessel for him to take form. Honestly the possibilities are endless.

I think he was just a spirit tethered to his armour and Visas Marr once the links were cut he couldn't interact with the world anymore. Well with the all consuming hunger that plagued him and if his new state frees him from that then he wouldn't want to return. But could he return sure it would need a reasonably plausible explanation, will he return I doubt it.

imagine if nihilus somehow took over yoda just long enough to go find anakin and take him over or consume his power

Is that niihlus footage from an upcoming unreal cinema vid?👀

Hey 100%starwars there is a topic I would like to talk to you about which is when meetra destroyed malachor 5 did the the echo of the wound heel

Now I want him to return in swtor in some event, like maybe a group of sith who specifically follow him and resurrect him or maybe he's resurrected by previous followers of the emperor, either looking for a way to bring the emperor back or viewing him as equal to the emperor as the only other sith who is on his level of power over life and death. It could definitely be an interesting story, maybe start on korriban and have a ziost like event (which explains why later in star wars the sith abandon korriban, maybe this event ended their rule over the planet, a rule that has been weakened already by two separate invasions in less than a decade), with the player character drawn to korriban due to a huge disturbance in the force from the future event and they investigate maybe thinking that it's somehow the emperor returning only for the twist to be another just as deadly sith. Then there could be several missions to learn who the new threat is (catching up those who haven't played kotor 2 and even expanding on the lore) and finding artifacts to defeat him. As for factions either republic or sith aligned characters would want to defeat them as they are a threat to either side, just like malgus, revan, the emperor, the emperor's children and those weird zildrog guys. The only thing against him returning is the same issue with palpatine returning in ROS, it kind of takes away the accomplishment of the exile and her unique ability to defeat him.

Saw a random lore Video on youtube from Darth Nihilus and instantly fell in love. I watched all star wars movies now and i crave that he get a spin off maybe trilogy like Anakin Skywalker but I guess not cause it would be more of a horror movie 😅

I believe Nihilus (alongside Bane and Andeddu) appeared to Darth Krayt in Legacy as Force Ghosts, though this could have been illusory or thrown a Holocron.

3:49-3:51 I dunno what it is, but seeing the Sith Lord cross his arms in a casual manner is so funny to me

Darth Nihilus. I got special relation with this character. My first contact to the old republic was through a star wars encyclopedia that went through the entire star wars timeline before 2008. So it was purely legends. Whoever wrote this was a huge kotor 2 fan, giving the game a massive splashpage in the book, describing most of the characters. I was especially intruiged by Sion. Nihiluses Design was of course very eyecatching and the description of this dark entity made me really excited. But in the game a lot of the characters didn't quite match my imagination that I had gotten from the book. I love the game, but my inner child will always be disappointed and underwhelmed by these characters.

Awwwww ye, Nihilus content! have you ever considered doing like a vs series? I think your takes would be interesting

Regarding that first theory with his hunger be filled, perhaps the sequels could have been the Death Star (or something else) that destroyed the planet, reawakening the force wound.

I love the design of his mask

I think without his physical being left he starved to death or simply wished to die when he could just like Sion.

.... "Visas !arre is blind" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 had me laughing out loud

Yeah I would love to see him return in some way perhaps through the mask. It does beg the question though... how would he even be defeated? You need a wound in the force to beat him I think otherwise he would just consume them. Dude is hella scary.

Imagine if Nihilus was the main villain of the sequel trilogy instead of "somehow Palpatine returned"

I view him almost like the nazgul and Sauron on term of living

I don't know much but his mask actually does make a small cameo in the old republic. If you play as a smuggler you can through your story on Tat help either a Jedi or a sith reclaim the mask both offer the smuggler a reward and the sith lady offers something else along with the reward hint hint

I think that the reference to seeing "just a man" is because before this moment, she thought her Master was essentially a Dark Side god of some kind. But in his defeated state, she was finally free of him, and realized, that like all living beings, even the most powerful, they are JUST people. In the movie The 13th Warrior, Antonio Banderas' character has a similar revelation after he kills one of the "Men who act like Bears", who "want us to think they are bears". The local people believe these enemies to be mystical evil. But, in fact, they were JUST people. I am sure that is what she sees through the Force. DESPITE his power, he was just a man, not a god.

Off-topic question: do you know which comic has the story of the 100 years of darkness and Ajunta Pall? (If such story exist in comicbooks)

That would make for a cool SWTOR expansion. You'd think the player character after enduring so much would be able to fight Nihilus? The star wars galaxy hides many dark ancient secrets that can wipe worlds in a instant.

Nihilus was truly one of the few entities that existed that terrified me. Probably the only one within any visual media, but certainly not the only one when including books.

Nihilus is a lich. His mask is a phylactery. The mask wasn't destroyed, thus Nilhilus wasn't. I think Nihilus could show up in a sequel, for sure. Would I want him to? Ehhhhh....probably not.

He is dead. Like his predecessors before him, his spirit was sent into Chaos. The only surviving relics of his existence were his mask and holocron.

@100% Star Wars My question is what armor? We see his cloak, armor, and everything dissolve in a Dark Side burst, and we see.. nothing left behind. What armor was there? Was it a spare armor he was holding in another room? Or what?

We need darth nihilus to show up in one of the future shows next year or a show about him

I’m sure Nihlius was one of the Sith Lords shown in the Legacy of the Force comic book as a guide in a holocron, I’d like to think he was connected to it somehow. I love the idea that he endured and could possibly find a way back into the physical plane. Plain?

For my part, I don't think there's anyone in the 'verse that understands Nihilus' condition better than Kreia, and nobody who wanted him dead more. So she wouldn't have done her suicide-by-Exile if she wasn't confident that Nihilus the Galaxy Eater was no longer a threat. That said, the idea of his mask containing a blueprint of his power, such that a sufficiently studious Sith could replicate his condition sounds like prime fanfiction material.

Is Darth Nihilus Dead: Yes and no. The man behind the mask died, but the being that is Nihilus remains until the mask - and the Force as a whole - is destroyed. I'd love to either see a new Star Wars game set during the Old Republic, or even an expansion for SWTOR, where Nihilus is the main villain. It could easily be started by finding out that the mask is still intact, leading to chasing down would-be Sith Lords who put on the mask, only to fall under the control of Nihilus who attempts to devour something far more devastating than a planet.

Could you do a episode on his mask?

My theory that kind of piggybacks off your 2nd theory is that he tried to use force drain on Meetra Surik, the Exile. Ever since the Malachor V ceased to sustain life, Nihilus, Meetra, (and I think Scion) became "wounds in the force". Meetra had a subconcious ability to develop force bonds that were so powerful that if someone was injured, she felt it. And Malachor V she was able to feel the dying screams of everyone on the planet. In order to avoid death, she shattered her connection to the force. Nihilus felt a sense of hunger. He then realized the temporary satisfaction from draining all life of the force gave him purpose to still exist as a physical being even though he's still a walking corpse. Nihilus has been in search for something to satisfy his hunger eternally. Then, just before his duel with Meetra, he tried to drain her of force essence. But, he felt that he couldn't... in fact it weakened him. As you mentioned, he's the pure embodiment of the Dark Side trying to consume the force. Meetra is the exact opposite. The pure embodiment of the Light attempting to develop unity through her companions and others she comes across. When Nihilus realized that he couldn't absorb Meetra's essence, he was filled with rage but at the end of their duel, he may have felt the satisfaction he's been searching for... a way to live/move on. There's no purpose for him to remain in the physical realm if he's unable to consume all life. But in a desperate hope to one day return, he seals his soul in his armor.

If Nihilus comes back, Ray will have to face him.

Imagine an imperial recovery team trying to resurrect him

I thought the "I see nothing but a man" was sort of ironic metaphor

7:15 so even with the restored content mod its gone or are you talking about the base game here?

Him: “Darth Niihlus’ mask could even make people force sensitive.” Me: “That’s what the point of the mask is!!!”

Maybe something could happen in future installments that results in his resurrection years later. Image modern era star wars having to deal with a revived Darth Niihlus simply because someone has a lapse in judgement. 🤔 Hm sounds like a setup for a star wars horror movie.

But I’m hoping from the gauge of the Knights of the old republic one remake we should be getting a Notes of the old republic to remake as well. And to save on costs they could probably reuse all the voice lines from the original and clean them up a bit.

i love Nihlus speeculation. i have some wild theories

"Nilihus has returned" would have been considerably better than "Somehow Palpatine returned."

So you see, that's where the trouble began. That mask. That damn mask. Darth Nihilus will always be my favourite Sith. Edit: Also, he reminds me of my favourite Goa'uld from Stargate SG-1 - Anubis.

2:45 I believe what Visas didn’t mean it in a literally, in a way she saw a man, not actually see a man but in a way. Don’t know how to describe it but it’s probably (like I said) not literally, like she saw him.

I know I’m late to this discussion, but the lack of context regarding Darth Nihilus is kind of the point… Chris Avellone, the lead writer of KOTOR 2 is known to deconstruct common tropes in the media and universes he works on and Nihilus along with Sion are both deconstructions of the character of Darth Vader. Nihilus looks cool with his mask and black robes, but there isn’t much underneath, while Sion is a brute, scarred physically and mentally, who once betrayed his master, yet finds himself ever a slave to someone above him (though in sion’s case, the master he betrayed and the one he’s enslaved to are one in the same). In short, Nihilus is the aspect of Vader that looks cool, while Sion is the actual character underneath the armor.

It sucks that most of his story was scrapped, are these scrapped story bits available in the KOTOR2 remake mod?

well he is incomplete he contained himself in both his mask and his armor and at this point his armor would be to damaged to contain him but if someone powerful like a skywalker or a papatine brought his mask to korraban he could persess them if given time but i wonder if he would be in his right mind after?

As a player of the MMO Star Wars The Old Republic, I would love for him to make a return in the Legacy of the Sith expansion.

That would be so awesome if Star Wars The Black Series released a Mask for Darth Nihious just like how they made Helmets for the Black Series

in SWTOR the armor is burried on Korriban and in books or was it a comic? i forgot, could be contacted via his Holocron or was it Xoxaans holocron? im getting old... anyways that means even 100+ ABY he is still burried on Korriban.

His force spirit of the Dark side was consumed by Abeloth

"somehow nihilus returned"

Darth Nihilus returning would be the best thing ever

No one ever truly dies........

Dart Nhilus was long dead, he didn't have motivation only hunger, the feedback weakened him to a point where he couldn't regain his full power, possibly killing the hunger itself bringing Nhilus back to being more of the man he was than ever before, either he was stuck without form or chose to remain formless, both make sense, after all he never craved power only for the hunger to end. If he comes back he'd be a plot device, like a force zombie... Different force zombie, hosts would put on the mask charge at those around them drain them of their force, and then collapse as the body itself begins to feed the mask

I say we seal that mask in a cortosis box. Put that box in a phrik box. Put that box in a beskar box. And then place it on a lifeless planet in a temple and put warnings in every language all over it. Edit: and leave 100 HK-50s with a solar powered generator to guard it.

I personally think there’s a chance Nihilus returns in eclipse. I mean, it’s in the name

I’m pretty sure he could’ve put his essence in the mask and I think that was the only physical piece left of him.

We all know why we don’t get him in the medias, he is way to dark for disney Star Wars It is a shame

Your first theory would actually explain why korraban force nexus became weaker and weaker among the centuries

He is my favourite sith lord, I would really like it if they brought him back.

In Legends he's stuck on korriban because krayt brought three sith holicrons there to ask the old sith questions and got ridiculed by them instead

Bring it back. Do it.