Is GGST Slayer Top Tier?

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@GekkoSquirrel 21 күн бұрын

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@pikachuattack542 20 күн бұрын

Universe counter hits do 30% more damage than normal hits while regular heavy Counter hits only give a 10% damage buff.

@iceink 19 күн бұрын

buff happy chaos

@dynamicduck8803 Күн бұрын

get your bag bro

@OwainVEVO 21 күн бұрын

when someone says something dandyphobic so you hit them with that counter-hit pilebunker stare

@AofCastle 20 күн бұрын

Excuse me, UNIVERSE Pilebunker

@gamemastergreen5064 21 күн бұрын

Obligatory "hE's nOT BroKeN, jUsT LORE ACCURATE"

@chaselowell4567 20 күн бұрын

Correction:HES BROKEN AND LORE ACCURATE!!! (And I love it)

@JohnnyGuiltyMan 21 күн бұрын

This dandy bastard literally teleports for his dash and can still dashcancel... I'm calling Daisuke, this is getting unacceptable.

@FaustGGS 21 күн бұрын

Dandy, guaranteed…my win.

@GoldlewisGGST 20 күн бұрын

Don't worry folks one coffin hit and he is basically shooting for the fourth of July.

@chaosguiltygear 20 күн бұрын

sorry partner, seems you don't have the dandy

@ChippGGST 20 күн бұрын

hes just dandy

@jacobgaming47 19 күн бұрын

dandy?!?!? like the guy from ggst slayer?!?!?!

@gamesgone988 21 күн бұрын

I have made jokes to my friends about if he does not kill you off of a poke I will riot and I did not know it would actually happen

@greedsin555 20 күн бұрын

"complex links to get ridicules damage" I USE 3 MAPPA PUNTCHES IN A ROW TO HELL WITH YOUR HEALTH BAR

@theskelebro8013 21 күн бұрын

The real top tiers were the pilebunkers we looped along the way

@avssingh1859 20 күн бұрын

Truly😂

@childlikesaiyan 21 күн бұрын

With how low a floor I'm on because of slayers, absolutely

@bizarre_juju 21 күн бұрын

Counter point: grab

@FoxCunt 21 күн бұрын

@@bizarre_juju Counter counter point: Getting countered because you went for a grab

@childlikesaiyan 21 күн бұрын

@@bizarre_juju My dust button is the only thing keeping my sanity together lol

@metalllich3493 20 күн бұрын

Sounds like someone doesn't want to learn tbh

@childlikesaiyan 20 күн бұрын

@@metalllich3493 Nah, I'm just a ABA main

@aganaom1712 20 күн бұрын

i've been a sol one trick since the game came out. before slayer, the only characters i could say i could have as secondaries that i have time enough to even remotely claim i know how to play are baiken and elphelt there is no character in the game that has felt the same way sol did to me as he did at the beginning of season 1 when the game first launched no character has felt like that to me, until slayer came out and i feel unchained i am confident he will get nerfed. but im also confident his backdash will get buffed and that the nerfs he does get will not seem significant at a glance

@zynstein8059 20 күн бұрын

Mums a gorilla Grandmas a gorilla too I'm a gorilla

@penpenthemanman 20 күн бұрын

@@zynstein8059Dandy~

@michellea.793 19 күн бұрын

d-dandy...

@ursulcx299 21 күн бұрын

The video didnt cache properly and it stopped running right after "Might be strong" and the comedic timing of that long silence was so good I thought it was part of the video for a second

@Femmigje112 20 күн бұрын

Slayer is a nightmare in lower floors. Slayer doesn’t reward knowledge or skill, the high damage is still the same for a beginner button masher as for good players. I also wouldn’t call it unrealistic that lower-floor players don’t know how to take advantage of Slayers poor and predictable movement, making those weaknesses moot, leaving you with a super powerful character that is in your face if they want to with seemingly no way to stop him. Luckily I don’t see him often in lower floors, either because he carried his players out or because he’s paid DLC (which opens the door for pay-to-win accusations if he doesn’t get nerfed)

@fnndhshsbxnf 20 күн бұрын

Maybe I would be okay with how strong slayer is if 90% of the playerbase wasn’t playing him

@lorenzopiva9322 20 күн бұрын

This. I'm honestly just tired of facing the same character 24/7

@raywing00 14 күн бұрын

You need to sympathize with those who can't improve, hence they had to resort to using him instead.

@benisign 20 күн бұрын

If one more person says dandy I swear to God I'm gonna jump

@56safety 16 күн бұрын

Dandy

@OccuredJakub12 21 күн бұрын

If I were to nerf Slayer, I'd nerf his Tension gain. The power of his supers would be offset by the relative cost, plus his RC combos(especially from DS mixups) wouldn't be as easy to get. He'd still hit like a truck and do Slayer stuff but now he wouldn't be able to get as much meter for finishing off the opponent in 2 touches. Plus it'd offset his Pilebunker giving him INSTANT FUCKING WALLBREAK

@metalllich3493 20 күн бұрын

You don't want pilebunker loops from wall splat

@AchedSphinx 20 күн бұрын

They removing the loops. Did the same thing to gio.

@KingAfrica4 20 күн бұрын

@@AchedSphinxhave you seen Gio combos recently?

@AchedSphinx 20 күн бұрын

@@KingAfrica4 yeah, i'm a gio main.

@tecnistico 19 күн бұрын

@@AchedSphinxAlso with Axl back in season 1

@theworstspeedrunner 20 күн бұрын

That is the best description I have heard for slayer. I want to play him so much but it just feels like im going to win no matter what. I havent lost as slayer to anything other than a slayer

@AchedSphinx 20 күн бұрын

Slayer never loses. They rely a lot on gimmicks and those gimmicks will carry easily to celestial. If some wants to escape the tower. Slayer is the answer.

@KingAfrica4 20 күн бұрын

You're definitely just playing on lower floors. I dont think he's that strong of a character

@user-qe9ep3on8k 21 күн бұрын

Never saw anybody saying yes for 11 minutes and 57 seconds

@NetzachEnjoyer 21 күн бұрын

Idk, I've never played Strive. Also- MELTY BLOOD MUSIC DETECTED!

@JaboodyEnthusiast 11 күн бұрын

Simple oki: 2k + 2D -> C.slash -> dandy step P + S (you gotta time it right). If they try to grab, they get counter hit into a combo. If you mess up the timing, enjoy playing defense for a bit.

@matthejamman 20 күн бұрын

Honest to God, I was in floor 3 when slayer came out, mostly playing Nago. I spent a couple days with Slayer and I'm in Floor 5. I welcome the nerf, I'll keep playing him no matter what.

@Voicelet 20 күн бұрын

You can stop most of his approaches with 6p and throw about half of his mixups. I'd say he's only top tier below 9f.

@Donobro 20 күн бұрын

U haven't played a good slayer

@yoloboloyolo888 21 күн бұрын

He will definitely be used in competitive, and will be top tier, the only thing that I think can be holding him back (and rightfully so) is his movement. I don't think you properly conveyed how predictable his movement is, ive genuinely lost matches due to the opponent predicting his movement and punishing accordingly. And that's me in casual floors, so I think high rank players and competitive players will be able to identify it and punish him hard. I think personally he'll be simular to high level potemkin players ( better obviously) very predictable but requires constant pressure because they can do a comeback at any time.

@NrettG 18 күн бұрын

Also simply jumping against slayer does ALOT for the MU. his 6P doesn't do him much and the guarantee button is 214P/K~HS to almost fly swatter you. He truly relies on you staying on the ground so he can pilebunker loop. If your not on the ground he can't do anything. Also helps he doesn't have a DP solidify his strong ground and weak air game. Me personally coming from a bridget main and picking up slayer, Slayer is easily the best A tier character. A couple moves could get a nerf but I just don't see him being S tier to the likes of Leo or Happy Chaos. He simply has high damage and LOTS of plus frames (Seriously a main strat is to 5P>5P>236K to carry to corner and it's plus as fuck)

@LoraLoibu 18 күн бұрын

@@NrettG It's Late (the anti-air overhead) is on S, not HS 214K/P~H is Master's Hammer, the cross-up guard crush move

@NrettG 18 күн бұрын

@@LoraLoibu Ah that's my bad. I knew it was one of the slash buttons but I forgot which one I pressed to fly swatter them.

@apaleguy 14 күн бұрын

One of my favorite things about being a Slayer main is the comeback moments. Truly feels like I'm having an underdog moment every time.

@cappuccinogoodfinger 15 сағат бұрын

Sol Badguy is young Daisuke's self insert. Slayer is peak Daisuke self insert. Everything is according to Daisuke's vision...

@objectionkiryu 20 күн бұрын

When is season 3 theme meanings coming out?

@agentjp106 14 күн бұрын

As a slayer main, I totally agree with a lot of this video. I think he's really really strong. I do think as people learn to fight him better he'll get weaker, so I'm hesitant to ask for nerfs in case they go too far. I'm totally down for him getting nerfed like a moderate amount tho

@Hexan. 21 күн бұрын

i think reading his matchup sheet on puddle is all you need to have an answer to the video's title

@notcraig255 21 күн бұрын

that is certainly something. I've seen it before but I'm curious as to what aba, elphelt, and johnny had before. I play faust and I pretty much curbstomped all of these characters in the first 2 weeks but slayer, I immediately started having trouble like day 3

@return4887 20 күн бұрын

@@notcraig255 faust is great at keeping him but struggles so much once he gets in at least thats how it feels i can keep him out for ages and keep piling on items and damage but he gets in once and i die instantly almost every time also typically all the slayers im up against are signifcantly worse than most players i fight but they win anyways

@zekeblume566 20 күн бұрын

Eh. The statistics bias new characters heavily. The rating of the 100th ranked slayer is the 50th ranked Sol. Lots of top players are using him. The proportional chart is better, but still shows how he’s still very strong.

@darkwrath9927 20 күн бұрын

The stats are also just kinda useless for determining strength. For example if we use those stats as power marking then Millia is stronger than Nago in top 1000, proportional, and top 100. And pretty much everyone can agree Nago is better than Millia. Slayer is definitely strong and probably top 5, but puddle farm wont really show us that for a few months til his popularity goes down.

@KingAfrica4 20 күн бұрын

@@darkwrath9927I think he's mid tier tbh

@dukeofkards 18 күн бұрын

After playing HC for a few months (and being bad) playing slayer makes me feel like practice worked even though it was a completely different character because he is too strong

@marshmellow2444 21 күн бұрын

take a shot every time he uses the word "strong"

@Flavourius 20 күн бұрын

"F*ck you, he's Slayer." 'nuff said, truer words were never spoken.

@caleboyugi4900 21 күн бұрын

Season 3 character theme analysis when??

@kingkrow7060 20 күн бұрын

Ive played testament for the longest time, and man I have never felt so miserable playing the game. While testament is a low tier, holy shit it makes no sense getting half my health taken away, or not being able to do an attack because of how fast slayer is.

@AchedSphinx 20 күн бұрын

Yes.

@notcraig255 21 күн бұрын

hes definitely not top 1 or broken but he is very good

@icepl831 20 күн бұрын

i used to be on floor 9... i felt like i was begetting better, gg was my first fighting game, and i felt like finally, i was working things out... and than slayer dropped.

@metalllich3493 20 күн бұрын

Skill issue

@icepl831 20 күн бұрын

@@metalllich3493 i mean it is but like... in order to develop skills you have to be facing opponents that input relatively similar levels of skill for relatively similar payoff. id say slayer kinda throws that out the window. i mean you can see as much in the video... whatever.

@metalllich3493 20 күн бұрын

@@icepl831 before calling someone a clown, walk a mile in their shoes Playing a character with shitty neutral in a neutral-based game feels like ass

@icepl831 20 күн бұрын

@@metalllich3493 the vid literaly says how he can skip neutral m8 idk about clowns but in a reasonable conversatiom im trying to have here saying skill issue might aswell be a non argument when talking about a character that clearly has a problem with easily accessable power with little cost compared to other characters. he can do more damage easier its that simple. its plain to see idk how or why cant you see it.

@jreut09 20 күн бұрын

@icepl831 most characters in this game (and a lot of other fgs) can "skip neutral". Skipping neutral is part of neutral for that matter. When you lack a fundamental understanding of fighting games we're allowed to say skill issue

@starcast3905 20 күн бұрын

Someone needs to tell Slayer it’s not dandy to be busted But, in all seriousness, I do want to play Slayer, he’s a rushdown and I love rushdown characters. I’ll wait till he’s fair, and stick with my person Testament

@Hotashi 15 күн бұрын

what the hell did i just watch

@marcelmichels2925 19 күн бұрын

I've swapped from Gio to slayer and even tho loosing the great movement hurt, I simply win more because he's just a bit too strong for low level players to deal with. It's so easy to win against a better player simply by landing one lucky hit.

@yurazah 20 күн бұрын

unlike chaos who was awkward and hard but broken, slayer is easy broken, which is more frustrating cause of the "your carried!" factor, but a positive is slayer will probably not survive for 2 years un nerfed like chaos did

@semlcolon 19 күн бұрын

Hey, dats me in the video

@thebestdefence1840 10 күн бұрын

I think another point to raise that either his health or his armour is WAY too high for how his character plays. I'm peak online floor 6 so i know im absolute caca poopoo at the game but i play against my friend alot who iirc is celestial floor (and he demolishes me). Recently theres been a few gio(me) v slayer(my friend) matches between us and we noticed that on the same level of counter hit, Slayer was simply just taking less damage than i was on Gio, even when i had full tension btw. Like bro not only hits like a freight train, hes built like one too

@lemone630 20 күн бұрын

He just gets naked and I can't focus for the rest of the match, of COURSE he's overpowered!

@blob642 5 күн бұрын

I got to half health in 2 hits. Balanced.

@savagehyphen01 20 күн бұрын

“6 hatech”

@Iniqui-tous 19 күн бұрын

we still waiting for that SEASON 3 OST lyrics :\

@somedude4455 21 күн бұрын

Here's your answer ... Kinda

@Sketchchess07 16 күн бұрын

my favorite bit in this video is how when you're saying "bottom 1 can't even move correctly and shit neutral" you put up a clip of you fighting I-no

@sidsscrumpy1647 21 күн бұрын

Ngl as someone who absolutely hated Dizzy in previous games, after the dumbed down versions of Aba and Slayer I kinda want her (or even Justice) back so I can teach those doofuses some respect for neutral. I would really love to do this with my main but Anji still sucks, three years after release. Good vid as always

@RoboKyGgACR 21 күн бұрын

Aba? Not playing neutral? What planet are you living on?

@MayGGST 21 күн бұрын

anji. is. not. bottom. tier. anymore.

@Abobus101 21 күн бұрын

Anji doesn't suck at all. In fact, I feel like he's one of Slayer's worst matchups

@sidsscrumpy1647 21 күн бұрын

@@MayGGST he still is. In fact he was pretty much nerfed in S3, as aside from finally being able to punish safe pokes with fish (if the opponent doesn't have 50 meter to do yrc) and doing a neutral check with nagiha (which is minus on block so already worse than slayers mappa hunch) he also lost cool combo conversions with fujin ch's, his only saving grace up to S3. Not that he is unplayable or anything, I would in fact recommend him as a char for the new players. He's just way worse compared to the others when it comes to floor 10 and upwards.

@RoboKyGgACR 20 күн бұрын

@@sidsscrumpy1647 he does a ton of damage. Can combo of off so much more now thanks to the 5k change, he has a tone of life and on top of that his neutral isn’t even that bad anymore thanks to spin being scarier and the constant threat of instant nagiha.

@Assassin21BEKA 20 күн бұрын

Some matchups feel horrible thou because of bad defense.

@kurikari1675 21 күн бұрын

The hammer is coming for u…then a random buff becuz why not

@laubra5227 20 күн бұрын

I landed a four or five hit combo, it took 50% of the other persons health That feels illegal

@SirTriton 20 күн бұрын

I wouldn’t care if he did so much damage if he also wasn’t so damn easy to play. It’s so incredibly simple to just straight up kill someone of a couple hits that it isn’t fun to play against. Then again i’m a goldlewis player

@icepl831 20 күн бұрын

@@SirTriton bro goldlewis has alot of health too, just think about how he melts squishies

@Beans-do6wc 21 күн бұрын

Why are you not using FDC Mappa on knockdown???? Youre throwing Slayer's biggest advantage is that hes so tilting. The difference between this game and Xrd/The X Series is that hes just actually busted in this game.

@icetide9411 20 күн бұрын

I mean he spends his entire meter on one move and it doesn't even one shot every character in the game? Definitely in need of buffs for sure

@DrDestructo64 21 күн бұрын

I think you missed not having dashblock as an option for weakness. As Johnny players know, that's kind of a huge deal

@tire_iron488 21 күн бұрын

buff zato

@Finppa 20 күн бұрын

Don't worry guys, Slayer said he's gotten good at holding back so naturally he's not too tier!

@Bridget_gg 20 күн бұрын

Slayer is another low level demon. He’s extremely easy to play, quite a bit harder to counter. He’s quite good at the high level but it’s mostly low level players complaining about him being ”broken”

@YoungYoung95 21 күн бұрын

Not even close

@zachstarattack7320 21 күн бұрын

no. his neutral and lack of microdash cripples that

@djendjendjendjendjen9442 21 күн бұрын

yeah ok but anji can still parry his supers

@merlito2882 20 күн бұрын

For me he is A tier at best

@frankaxe6700 20 күн бұрын

I know chipp players are praying for a nerf😂

@pikachuattack542 20 күн бұрын

Honestly would love to see you make a video about Super Armor and it's just you complaining about characters that have super armor. Vaseraga would be a big offender.

@windwakerx2723 20 күн бұрын

Didn't even talk about his mix-up game bro...

@mythmage8231 21 күн бұрын

"Bad defense" -Metered reversal that is fully invincible for 90% of it's duration -A poor backdash, but one that comes with a counterattack (Hand of Doom) -A teleporting stepdash that goes through the opponent, allowing for some very creative ways to escape pressure, especially in the corner -Really good anti-airs in the form of 6P (obviously), c.S, and It's Late. -4th highest effective health (excluding mana barrier Asuka) So, that was a fucking lie. Like, his defense isn't the greatest, but I really wouldn't call it "bad"

@dd-_-bbbbb 21 күн бұрын

Its bad

@wattercup2076 21 күн бұрын

kinda the same as the teleport, but if your in the corner you can use 214P and then pilebunker to get free wall, kinda risky tho, except against other slayers, on them it works 90% of the time

@zekeblume566 20 күн бұрын

It’s definitely bad. He’s still broken, but the metered reversal losses to jabs because it takes too long to come out. Backdash is such an important tool that losing it sucks. The counterattack isn’t invincible so it’s kinda useless.

@__-be1gk 20 күн бұрын

dude just called Strive Slayer 6p a good anti air and expects us to listen to anything he says

@mythmage8231 20 күн бұрын

@@__-be1gk It's... a 6P. It's literally its purpose.

@Dragoonking17 20 күн бұрын

The most annoying part of this character is the fact that around 60-70% of people are still playing him right now. At this playrate, the strengh is not even the most important part, he definitely needs a nerf to bring versatility bach into the game.

@hokkaido9932 18 күн бұрын

I I was thinking about buying a fighting game to really try to learn, this one seemed interesting, is it worth it?

@Dandyman69 20 күн бұрын

YES HE HAS NO FUCKING WEAKNESSES GEKKO

@esseubot 20 күн бұрын

i just feel like fighting against slayer has no spice man, it's a boring character to fight against

@56safety 20 күн бұрын

Slayer isn't op, he overestimated the growth of the cast.

@WheezyBaby 21 күн бұрын

First

@GrampaCramps 15 күн бұрын

Slayers good, not broken. Lab the matchup.

@tonydang7793 19 күн бұрын

Lets keep downplaying Dandy bros

@Gearsclips 20 күн бұрын

Goldlewis main here and been playing strive since Xbox port. The one thing Slayer could use a nerf on, is damage. I feel like his damage is where the game used to be before season 3 patch. His damage really doesn’t make sense for the difficulty to achieve it. On the other hand, I’ve had decent success slowing him down with well-timed pokes.

@hunterking4228 21 күн бұрын

I kinda stopped playing GGST for how busted Slayer was. Hope ArcSys fixes him

@Donobro 20 күн бұрын

Skill issue

@thesyclemonte6571 21 күн бұрын

Hes not slayer anymore stop calling him slayer

@fnndhshsbxnf 20 күн бұрын

What do you mean by this

@erkz2836 20 күн бұрын

@@fnndhshsbxnf 'cuz he become death, the destroyer of the worlds... ...i guess

@thesyclemonte6571 20 күн бұрын

@@fnndhshsbxnf mechanically speaking. Mainly his backlash jump cancels and unorthodox yet slippery movement options him being able to give untypical options invincibility frames and his old 6p gave him so much identity as a char with midling to slow normals. It makes me feel rather forlorn that even his legacy stuff has been taken away to homogenise him with other characters.I mean they made dandystep into another basic mixup stance when it used to be a general tool in neutral. I don't want another character that plays like may or Leo whitefang I want SLAYER

@eveisunavailable 20 күн бұрын

@@thesyclemonte6571 then play xrd, not strive. this is a different game with different mechanics and different goals. every character has been thrown in the mixer.

@thesyclemonte6571 20 күн бұрын

@@eveisunavailable mixer is an apt metaphor given that even characters of which before had their own tastes and nuances to gameplay have been blended up into a congealed slurry of removing bars to entry by eliminating previously legacy quirks slayer was a slippery character that used the invincibility he could use on his moves to contest the fact that he had relatively slow moves it was interesting and what made me enjoy guilty gear in the first place. He no longer has these things with the only thing these two have in common is damage potential which is not what attracts me to slayer his dandy step has lost much of its signature appeal and quirks with the fact that you can just go forward without the weave now you just use it as a mixup/combo tool instead of its usual app. In neutral or risky counter hits. I recognise things change like supers or new special moves however slayers Access to invincibility frames and slippery movement makes him slayer and without these things he's just another closer range nagoryuki In terms of gameplay and tools.

@Versusversusdeath 20 күн бұрын

oh yeah, for casuals he’s definitely broken, but at intermediate and high-level play he’s just around high tier. I think when you make videos like this though, you should definitely get more opinions than just the casual ones so that way you can tell the full story of the characters balance.

@censoredchat8276 20 күн бұрын

Slayer's WR in the top 1000 is higher than any other character currently. I think it is fair to say he is top tier at all levels of play.

@ThyBigCheddar 20 күн бұрын

@@censoredchat8276 Although it doesn't entirely disprove the point, that fact hes new and everyone is playing him is definitely going to mess with proper stats.

@censoredchat8276 20 күн бұрын

@@ThyBigCheddar it has almost been a month since release

@KingAfrica4 20 күн бұрын

@@censoredchat8276that's new

@ThyBigCheddar 20 күн бұрын

@@censoredchat8276 That also doesn't disprove my point