Is Honkai: Star Rail LINKED to Genshin and Honkai Impact 3rd?

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Have you ever wondered if Genshin Impact and Honkai Impact 3rd were connected in some way? With the release of HoYoverse's new game, Honkai: Star Rail, we might have gotten some big hints as to how all the games of HoYoverse is being linked to each other is a very secretive way. In this video, I will discuss some of the similarities that exists in Honkai: Star Rail, Genshin Impact, and Honkai Impact 3rd and how they all related to the entirety of Honkai Universe that is created by HoYoverse.
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00:00 Are they all connected?
00:55 What is Honkai Universe?
01:15 The Imaginary Tree
02:12 The Sea of Quanta
03:01 Light and Darkness
04:19 What is the Honkai?
05:33 The Samsara
06:26 Triquetra
06:43 Additional Connections
07:27 Can I still enjoy Honkai: Star Rail?

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@IslandXD
@IslandXD Жыл бұрын
Use Redemption Code: 'HSRVER10XEDLFE' for FREE 50 Stellar Jade!!! Some additional context about the video: This video has few things that are intentionally left vague to help avoid headache and confusion. Specifically regarding the existence of Bubble Worlds/Universes. It is my understanding that within Honkai Impact 3rd specifically, there was an issue with the translations/localization of the words "World" and "Universe." Basically, WITHIN the game of Honkai Impact 3rd, Bubble Worlds refers to stable "leaves" while Bubble Universe refers to fading universes that are not anchored, unstable, and facing imminent destruction. In this video, I have mixed these two terminologies, but in all honesty, it gets overly complicated because we are fixated on the technicalities of words. To put it simply, there are Bubbles that exists as leaves that can eventually lose their stability and fade away. There are also Bubbles that are fading away, that can reattach itself to the tree through methods such as Genius Anchors and others. Again, this is all overly complex, and unnecessary for the overall concept of this video in particular. The exact details are best left for another video or livestream discussion altogether probably. Also, I understand that my interpretation of "Honkai" could possibly be a bit different. This is my perspective from trying to understand the entirety of HoYoverse, rather than specifically focusing on what was presented within the game of Honkai Impact 3rd. I hope you enjoyed the video for what it was, and I hope it was helpful to anyone who is interested in playing Honkai: Star Rail! Thank you for watching the video!!!
@KyleBored
@KyleBored Жыл бұрын
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@katsuragifarhan
@katsuragifarhan Жыл бұрын
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@nathanaelagusalim2000
@nathanaelagusalim2000 Жыл бұрын
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@topthch
@topthch Жыл бұрын
I got it, this your perspective, Island, I respect about that, but about the bobble universe, sea of quanta and imaginary tree's concept that you explain is pretty wrong, hope you change it, because innocent and random people that not know these kind of concept that much, they can count this as a fact.
@herrscherofgachapain6342
@herrscherofgachapain6342 Жыл бұрын
Thanks island!🎉
@FaiGal
@FaiGal Жыл бұрын
It amazes me how this whole Hoyo universe started with just a little jet pack Kiana, fighting her way through the apocalypse to reach the moon
@thewhutnow5795
@thewhutnow5795 Жыл бұрын
It's "hoyoverse"
@tomikun8057
@tomikun8057 Жыл бұрын
@@thewhutnow5795 Hoyoverse is the company. They're talking about the Mihoyo Inter-Game Multiverse
@thewhutnow5795
@thewhutnow5795 Жыл бұрын
@@tomikun8057 which you can call hoyoverse
@Oogwood
@Oogwood Жыл бұрын
​@@thewhutnow5795 that's why we called them hoyo
@MegaLinket
@MegaLinket Жыл бұрын
​@@thewhutnow5795 eat my elbow
@illum6
@illum6 Жыл бұрын
A small correction: Bubble universes =/= leaves on the tree. Living universes, those which still have a chance against the Honkai, are leaves, whereas bubble universes are those which failed/are predisposed to fail against it, and thus they fall into the Sea of Quanta and dissolve like Su's little universe did in Second Key.
@topthch
@topthch Жыл бұрын
Yes, that's right. I am gonna comment like this too.
@BLAZE_RIDER
@BLAZE_RIDER Жыл бұрын
ok son
@Mrs.Ragnvindr
@Mrs.Ragnvindr Жыл бұрын
Aha gotcha, so technically the leaves that fall into the sea quantum still exist but in a form of bubble because the water take it over, or something like that
@reneko
@reneko Жыл бұрын
Also if you have 2nd key you can create a bubble universe or if you super strong like Kevin you can create bubble universe with your memory
@eiarsan
@eiarsan Жыл бұрын
​@@Mrs.Ragnvindr tldr it's a fake universe. Any universe that is not connected to the tree is a bubble universe. As far as i know there's two kind of bubble universes, a natural and a manmade. A natural is made from the data of dead universes that fell into the sea of quanta and is destined to disappear within time limit. A manmade is self explanatory. One could create a bubble universe using their memories alone if they are absurdly strong enough.
@simonecomotti7131
@simonecomotti7131 Жыл бұрын
This is more of an Honkai 101 than explaining the connection, sensei.
@yuwonoguntur2451
@yuwonoguntur2451 Жыл бұрын
well, because most of this information comes from honkai and we barely know what abyss and celestia is
@oyshikaadi9631
@oyshikaadi9631 Жыл бұрын
Question: When Aether or Lumine say that they used to travel from world to world before, does this imply they used to travel from one bubble universe to another within the same leaf, or from one leaf to a completely another leaf?
@hikar1_
@hikar1_ Жыл бұрын
I find it highly unlikely that they had the power and the technology to be able to detect and travel between bubble universes but we don't know how strong they were before the game so it's hard to tell. (Unless there is some manga shit)
@oyshikaadi9631
@oyshikaadi9631 Жыл бұрын
@@hikar1_ Well, all we do know is that they did travel from world to world. Even the traveler themselves said that they would pick a star in the sky and just "go there". That said, in Genshin, Forbidden Knowledge is known to be as knowledge that does not belong to the world of teyvat, coming from the depths of the abyss (whatever the "abyss" is) and the Traveler (and suspiciously, Paimon) is unaffected by forbidden knowledge. It could be theorized that this knowledge is otherworldly, just like the traveler.
@lamhoang8986
@lamhoang8986 Жыл бұрын
No one know, wait for the reference, maybe they will appear some where in star rail
@myaava6608
@myaava6608 Жыл бұрын
Nah from different tree 💀
@hpropganda
@hpropganda Жыл бұрын
i highly doubt it, from caribert traveler states that they only hopped through planets. So while the world of genshin impact is on one planet, that planet exists within a giant universe that the traveler has traversed through, but 99% of genshin's characters have not. and said universe encompasses the genshin leaf on the tree.
@alexpav845
@alexpav845 Жыл бұрын
1. Bubble universes aren't leaves, they are dead words in Sea of Quanta. 2. Jarilo VI and Xianzhou Luofu are separate leaves. Homu Labs, clarified this in his ch36 discussion stream.
@user-rj3pg5ly8q
@user-rj3pg5ly8q Жыл бұрын
Yeah like, how in the hell Star Rail would be happening in the one world/leaf/bubble if they have the 2nd key, that can travel across the other leafs if I correct. Well, of course Welt could've just travel with it to the star rail leaf, but maybe in the future they would have to go on the other branches of the Imaginary tree using 2nd key. I imagine this game as the travel among not only the sea of stars but maybe other universes. Or maybe that is too much for now who knows.
@alexpav845
@alexpav845 Жыл бұрын
@@user-rj3pg5ly8q situation a bit more interesting. You see, star rail isn't just game's name, Aeon Akivili created "rails" that connects different leaves of Imaginary tree, though not all worlds connected to star rails. Solar System doesn't have star rail, so it isolated from other civilization. Exception are Sky People and Sugars, because they have their own ways to travel across Imaginary tree.
@Noaaaa3
@Noaaaa3 Жыл бұрын
Jarilo-VI and Xianzhou Luofu are not separated, they're in the same Leaf, the universe which the IPC called "The Amber Universe". The Astral Express is not actually the Cosmic Juggernaut, it's a different train, Akivili created Astral Express and Start the journey from the isolated world of Pegana, to find the edge of the Imaginary Tree
@alexpav845
@alexpav845 Жыл бұрын
@@Noaaaa3 did I call Astral Express Cosmic Juggernaut? Nope, I know that they are completely different. You should learn have to read, before replying. As for Amber universe, I still didn't saw this term in HSR, but must say that leaves of Imaginary Space aren't universes, it's popular delusion among Honkai players born from mistranslations. Himeko in HSR even clarify that leaves are star systems.
@Noaaaa3
@Noaaaa3 Жыл бұрын
@@alexpav845 HSR Himeko confirmed it? When?. As for the information about Amber universe is from the radio in Astral Express, there is a news broadcast from the Interastral Peace Corporation.
@diabolike8055
@diabolike8055 Жыл бұрын
Can't believed you forget the bigest connection Welt ...
@edriandelacruz27
@edriandelacruz27 Жыл бұрын
He explained it in a separate video already.
@topthch
@topthch Жыл бұрын
Yes
@ishi_gami
@ishi_gami Жыл бұрын
I haven't played HI3 but I remember Island mentioning in another video that Welt in HI3 and HSR r the same not an alternate version of same person
@vishky4907
@vishky4907 Жыл бұрын
​@@ishi_gami yeah theyre the same person even the train is a divine key from hi3
@diabolike8055
@diabolike8055 Жыл бұрын
@@ishi_gami it is if you can look at the artwork of welt you can see tesla and otto
@YourCeeCeeDuelist
@YourCeeCeeDuelist Жыл бұрын
Not to mention - you can catch a glimpse of Dvalin in HI3, in StarRail you can find the Travelers glider, as well as a broken sword that was used by Himeko in HI3, also a subtle nod to Paimon with the text 'How about we explore the area ahead of us later' while inspecting a gate in Belobog. So yeah, the worlds are connected in more ways then one.
@Dragoniccat
@Dragoniccat 8 ай бұрын
Wait, where does Dvalin appear?
@shanedoesyoutube8001
@shanedoesyoutube8001 8 ай бұрын
​@@Dragoniccat chapter 17, and apparently the chapter was released DURING Genshin's beta phase BEFORE September 28 release
@Dragoniccat
@Dragoniccat 8 ай бұрын
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 I’m gonna go find that now; thanks!
@dracotias
@dracotias Жыл бұрын
it's probably be said already but bubble universes are not the same as anchored universes (leaves on the tree), bubble universes are so called because they're free floating in the sea and cannot produce Honkai energy, thus they will eventually "pop" and die unless they can regain an anchor such as the would from Durandal's VN being anchored directly to her soul or Sumaru being bound within The second key it's self
@oneosix106decena
@oneosix106decena Жыл бұрын
Zoooo genshin is a bubble universe Cause it doenst HAVE any honkai and honkai star rail doenst
@dracotias
@dracotias Жыл бұрын
@@oneosix106decena Star Rail is questionable since we don't yet know the nature of what Stellarons/aeons etc really are. Genshin however would make sense since our Twin confirmed they've already done the loop once and there's the lingering detail of the sky being fake. Typically with bubble universes it's only that one place left with everything outside of it already being gone.
@maosama3695
@maosama3695 Жыл бұрын
Why are people confusing leaves to leafs?
@maosama3695
@maosama3695 Жыл бұрын
​@@oneosix106decena yeah its basically a dead universe. Or a locked one. If the original god had the power to seal its universe preventing honkai to come in. We still dont know. But i guess its the former hence why those people from other universes has no interest on genshin.
@kvr8137
@kvr8137 Жыл бұрын
Genshin was once showcased on the Multiversal monitor of Otto on the Imaginary tree
@nugrohopriatmojo1290
@nugrohopriatmojo1290 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact there was some piece of himeko broken sword(Surtr Muspellsverd) and Travelers original Wings in Honkai star rail
@yixo
@yixo Жыл бұрын
It's the default glider given to traveler by Amber, travelers have actual wings in the prologue :p
@bbee6
@bbee6 Жыл бұрын
I started playing honkai 3rd a year into my genshin journey because i was so curious about these larger concepts and now im in love with it so im onto star rail to gain even further understanding. Juggling 3 hyv games is starting to become a hobby in and of itself Little addition to the honkai theory: seems like honkai is almost like the wall described in the fermi paradox, a point at which civilisation succeeds and thrives or faces complete annihilation. And we dont know if weve hit that wall or if any creature in the existence of our known universe has managed to surpass it.
@pixadragon46
@pixadragon46 Жыл бұрын
Ahh about that, have you played APHO in Honkai, or finished honkai impact ?
@bbee6
@bbee6 Жыл бұрын
@@pixadragon46 imma be real with u APHO is soooo boring i havent even done the 1st one and im currently playing thru ch33 of the main story
@pixadragon46
@pixadragon46 Жыл бұрын
@@bbee6 Hmm then do you mind spoilers for APHO ?
@bbee6
@bbee6 Жыл бұрын
@@pixadragon46 not really as i dont really have any intention of finishing it. I just hope it doesnt spoil any of the mainline story
@bbee6
@bbee6 Жыл бұрын
@@pixadragon46 not really as i dont really have any intention of finishing it. I just hope it doesnt spoil any of the mainline story
@_Chxco_
@_Chxco_ Жыл бұрын
I really hope that Wendy will be a character in Honkai:Star Rail, cuz I love her so much in Houkai Gakuen/Ggz but they killed her so early in Honkai Impact, I love Venti too (Wendy's alternate self in Genshin) And I hope thet she and Bronya will be friend too
@skyacaniadev2229
@skyacaniadev2229 Жыл бұрын
A hint, the word "imaginary" in Honkai in its Chinese version clearly means the mathematical concept "imaginary" number (like the square root of -1).
@noruwaado_san.hyougen
@noruwaado_san.hyougen 9 ай бұрын
I see
@ryoka9104
@ryoka9104 11 ай бұрын
Gun girlZ was the leaf that was cut from the tree
@JolDettori
@JolDettori Жыл бұрын
YES MOARRR! I love your theory videos but these overlapping theories from the entire honkai universe is a whole other rabbithole i am ready to dive in! Great video!
@UnrealWaifuTV
@UnrealWaifuTV Жыл бұрын
As a player of Honkai Impact 3rd and Genshin Impact ( and now also Star Rail) I approve the theory. Well done!
@AstraLuna-o9i
@AstraLuna-o9i Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this concise and informative break down of the similarities between the three games. I’d like to add when Otto is looking at bubble universes in the Imaginary tree he sees Dvalin flying through the air, which proves that Genshin Impact Universe is part of the Imaginary Tree. Also from what I’ve heard about StarRail is Welt is the Welt from Honkai Impact, but idk if that’s true or not. Either way I’m super excited about playable Welt. He’s such a badass, his fight against Sirin was one of my favorite parts of the Second Eruption manga.
@Elrinell
@Elrinell Жыл бұрын
Great video, very well explained and simplified !! The concept of these games are way deeper than what they seem to be , so it can be overwhelming pretty fast
@AlpacaMark
@AlpacaMark Жыл бұрын
Nice to see someone mentioned about the concept of Imaginary Tree and Sea of Quata There are too many people have no concept how important of them and give out ignorant conclusion It was so important to separate people understand how story depeply connected with whole universe law and science or just think game story setting bullshit/weird with a lot unknown terms . (Maybe Genshin universe are the bubble universe which going to fall into Sea of Quata Obviously they seems far away as parallel world beside others, Honkai is proportional to humanity culture level we know Durandal travelled many bubble universe at Sea of Quata in HI3 which look more different beside original world culture level)
@IrenHawx
@IrenHawx Жыл бұрын
Excellent breakdown of the concepts.
@MashiMish
@MashiMish Жыл бұрын
Great video! But bubble universes in honkai refer to universes that aren’t connected to the tree anymore, leaves are a separate concept
@lux9744
@lux9744 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's seems more people misunderstood both parallel/alternative universe and bubble universe term. Parallel/alternative universe is universe that reside at the Imaginary Tree branches, while bubble universe is universe that reside in the Sea of Quanta, it's also a universe that in process of disappear/dying. So basically a parallel universe can be a bubble universe (fall to SoQ after lose the test), but bubble universe can't be parallel universe (since it's in dying state)
@hellozenn
@hellozenn Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, islandXD to keep this simple. I really love it. Might be in future, I would like to use info in this video as reference understanding about Honkai Universe
@Zarozian
@Zarozian Жыл бұрын
Time to build my Honkai Star Rail/Genshin Impact community! u wu
@nihalreddy1120
@nihalreddy1120 Жыл бұрын
Good luck:)
@Ghostly-R3ad
@Ghostly-R3ad Жыл бұрын
Let's just hope it won't turns toxic but knowing those twitter bozo's it will at least takes 1 month before it turns into that
@g1g3l
@g1g3l Жыл бұрын
Great. More toxic crap like character shipping, color washing and controversies. At least HeroHei is going to have more content to make vids on and me content to watch.
@GeneSysFNLT
@GeneSysFNLT Жыл бұрын
It's these kinds of hyper-meta connections that makes me love Hoyoverse's games so much! I started with Genshin, and as soon as I hit the lore iceberg's lower levels, I just *had* to check out -Depression- Honkai Impact 3rd. Which I fell in love with! I'm so hyped for Honkai: Star Rail because of these games!
@SpultoBNMTheMutuallyUnrequited
@SpultoBNMTheMutuallyUnrequited Жыл бұрын
Have you ever Checked out -Extreme Depression- Honkai Gakuen (GGZ) tho ?
@GeneSysFNLT
@GeneSysFNLT Жыл бұрын
@@SpultoBNMTheMutuallyUnrequited No, but I *really* want to. I'm not sure if I'm still able to play it. I heard the EN server was shut down. 🥲
@nicholaslienandjaja1815
@nicholaslienandjaja1815 5 ай бұрын
Now imagine if in the future, they will include a HoYoVerse representative for Super Smash Bros. 6.
@GeneSysFNLT
@GeneSysFNLT 5 ай бұрын
@@nicholaslienandjaja1815 Genshin and HSR for Switch first. 😞
@Sosuke0727
@Sosuke0727 Жыл бұрын
And how about some 3D models that got transient universe? Such as Raiden Mei = Raiden Shogun Yae Sakura = Yae Miko As well others not so obvious as Nahida = Theresa apocalypse, with their shared voice overs Although this is only noticed if were played on Chinese or Japanese
@samirSch
@samirSch Жыл бұрын
Wow thanks Island for another great video. I just play Genshin since 2.8 and I doubt I'll have time for Honkai anytime soon, but this sated the curiosity that was killing me, just like a certain site sated my urge to Kuru Kuru~ that was also killing me (and now is killing my wrist).
@RonieTheddy03
@RonieTheddy03 Жыл бұрын
I honestly never thought that Genshin would also be connected to HSR, so it’s interesting that you managed to find connections to both games; props to you, Island. Also, before everyone goes saying “Actually, according to Island, Honkai is…”; I think Honkai is not meant to be understood. It’s like trying to understand 4D as a 3D being. Most explanations regarding Honkai that we’re given in Hi3 are primarily theories, with Island’s explanation being based on Otto’s theory on Honkai being a test of some sort. There are several theories regarding the Honkai, and with the release of the Project Stigma arc, those theories increased further.
@zacharytan1883
@zacharytan1883 Жыл бұрын
If any of the games are connected, then that would be the greediest move hoyoverse has ever done
@pixadragon46
@pixadragon46 Жыл бұрын
Yep in Hi3 honkai is basically a test, while in Honkai gakuen/GGZ its an eldritch horror
@RonieTheddy03
@RonieTheddy03 Жыл бұрын
@@pixadragon46 Hi3 Honkai doesn’t have a clear definition aside from the fact that it takes the form of or brings all kinds of threats. It’s purpose? A mystery. Some say it’s Imaginary Energy under the influence of the Cocoon of Finality that’s being used to condition civilizations. Some say it’s a test from the Imaginary Tree to see what universe would stay and what would sink down the Sea of Quanta. Some say it’s some kind of malevolent force whose purpose is to destroy humanity. We pretty much have no clue what it exactly is.
@kmeanxneth
@kmeanxneth Жыл бұрын
​@@zacharytan1883 they all was in day one in the imaginary tree (so same Universe)
@azalea9409
@azalea9409 Жыл бұрын
​@@zacharytan1883 What why? There's nothing wrong with the games being connected and is nothing greedy about it. Just like how the Marvel universe has multiple stories going on at once in different universes.
@Netraven001
@Netraven001 Жыл бұрын
This brings to mind Haxxor Bunny's Origin. From what I recall when we played through her story, at the end, her Bubble Universe was dissolving into the Sea of Quanta, and she was supposed to be a Seed(?) or something. I don't remember how she was able to get onboard the Hyperion, but I definitely recall something about being retrieved from the Sea of Quanta, and/or the bubble universe she came from dissolving, and she being one of the last survivors. I think. >.> It's been so long since I played through it and Can't remember exactly what was said. But it kinda brings to mind where exactly is the (Captainverse) Hyperion cruising? Is it cruising between the leaves of the Imaginary Tree? Or is it fully contained within one of the leaves? This is all very similar to the notion of the YES Beast. The YES is ALL that IS. But, there is also the NO. The NO is NOthing. It Hates the YES Beast, because it is a Reminder of All the NO does not have. So It is in a Constant battle to Kill The YES. Each Cell on the Skin of the YES is a whole universe in and of itself. And there are those that can travel between the cells. They are call Dermal Travelers. They care for the YES Beast and try to Heal that which the NO has damaged/corrupted. If it cannot be saved, then it is Cut away so that it doesn't fester and spread. There's more to it but I'm not an expert on it entirely. Just one that remembers. And this also isn't exactly the place to discuss it. In any case, I am still interested in your take on Haxxor Bunny's Origin, and how she relates to Silver Wolf in Star Rail. Also love how the Captainverse and Star Rail are following the same Ship collecting Travelers to skip around and fix things on other worlds! It's a great Parallel! Thanks!
@MorbidEel
@MorbidEel Жыл бұрын
IIRC one of the events mention that the Captainverse Hyperion is cruising through the Sea of Quanta. I don't think the Captainverse stuff counts for anything because that would end up linking to the EVA universe since Asuka arrives on the Hyperion the same way as Bronie.
@Netraven001
@Netraven001 Жыл бұрын
@@MorbidEel So... how do you explain Asuka and Haxxor Bunny Bronya getting on board? And then there's the thing about the Traveler in Genshin being a historical record of Teyvat, as the Traveler will be the one to remember them when Teyvat also ends? It's like the "X-files" meets "The Secret World." The Truth is Out There, and yet all the Conspiracies are True as well. I kinda like the idea of the CaptainVerse being a sort of Dermal Traveler story, where they can venture to other Bubble Universes, and pick up random people to help keep the memory alive of that Bubble Universe, while fighting against that which wants to destroy All That Is.
@Dzombies45
@Dzombies45 Жыл бұрын
-Bubble universe is a dead universe that still being consume by sea of quanta -if stair rail only travel to other universe on the same leaves, then hi3 universe is more advance since welt can travel(stranded) to stair rail -the energy in stair rail is like honkai,will of honkai, and herscerr(hard to type) -in hi3 trailer reburn2 welt and caroll is in the train, so it might be that later in the story welt find his way back to hi3 universe
@skybattler2624
@skybattler2624 Жыл бұрын
This theory is enough to predict the names 8th and 9th element in Genshin impact. Light- Imago, aka image Chaos- Umbro, aka Dark
@yixo
@yixo Жыл бұрын
Considering how other 7 are named they'd be Photo=Light and Scoto=Dark.
@yu3lora
@yu3lora Жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining. This is a big help to us.
@kolt1868
@kolt1868 Жыл бұрын
honkai impact had a lot of text/dialog explaining about quantum physics that went way over my head. i hope honkai star rail would be easier to digest.
@Yaori999
@Yaori999 Жыл бұрын
@kolt no it won't be. Mihoyo hired Nobel prize winners to write HSR. Honkai writer was "just" a math graduate. My brain is not ready
@hikar1_
@hikar1_ Жыл бұрын
It was very interesting tho and it actually made sense instead of just using SiFi jargen, imo it was cool seeing fiction and reality mix but boy there was too much.
@moores4415
@moores4415 Жыл бұрын
welcome to Honkai University, where you can get your degree in Quantum Physics while also being emotionally damaged
@jerryjayyana4190
@jerryjayyana4190 Жыл бұрын
I like this kind of explanation... So short but very understandable... makes other players more aware that this 3 games are connected by each other🎉🎉
@lyneo5807
@lyneo5807 Жыл бұрын
you can find the travellers wings in honkai star rail as a curio in the space station thats why i searched up if the games are linked, theres also paimon references when you try to explore areas you shouldnt yet
@N95j
@N95j Жыл бұрын
This makes so much sense! Thanks for sharing the theory, it makes me realize how similar the games really are
@ArpTakao696
@ArpTakao696 Жыл бұрын
did a good job at explaining stuff
@fatcatdoreamon8182
@fatcatdoreamon8182 Жыл бұрын
I'm so excited, let's go!!
@Richinnameonly
@Richinnameonly Жыл бұрын
Nice. I'll probably need some honkai lore videos going forward I only got to like chapter 8 or something like that.
@LordAshura
@LordAshura Жыл бұрын
Welt from HSR is literally the same Welt from HI3rd. It's a weird story that happens after APHO in a Honkai Manga. HI3rd Himeko's sword fragment was found in HSR as it fell through the Sea of Quanta.
@reviqqo3699
@reviqqo3699 Жыл бұрын
as a veteran player of both genshin and honkai, i can't wait for the release tmrw. it'll feel unreal bc I'm a sucker for the lore of both hi & gi
@jadetigress9636
@jadetigress9636 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if Tears of Themesis and Zenless Zone Zero is also connected 💀
@barkni1913
@barkni1913 Жыл бұрын
Imagine in like 5 years all of the games get to a stage in their story where we combine the worlds and if you have stuff linked they could have it so as your relics artifacts and things like that got destroyed but the characters are brought through to the new game where they could have places we know overturned by the force of the joining of the worlds or something lol
@Wolf-mm6ct
@Wolf-mm6ct Жыл бұрын
IF star rail is just another leaf then why are there curios of deceased Worlds in star rail that belongs to HI3rd and Genshin? My assumption was that Aeons were entities that were born in the space between Worlds (leaves) and Akivili linked all the Worlds in a distant future and we journey a time when Teyvat and HI3rd Worlds have already perished.
@REHOO
@REHOO Жыл бұрын
goated video as always
@SnakeTGK
@SnakeTGK Жыл бұрын
That video is a must watch for any hoyoverse games enjoyers
@shurak3584
@shurak3584 Жыл бұрын
New sub waiting for more lore contect of HSR!
@SofiyanArifKurniawan
@SofiyanArifKurniawan Жыл бұрын
5:26 GGZ !
@lucasthehonkaimanectric1690
@lucasthehonkaimanectric1690 Жыл бұрын
Glad I'm played both
@giann1645
@giann1645 Жыл бұрын
When more information is released I hope you can make the video again, using Honkai Gakuen information too ❤️❤️❤️
@monthafterdecember
@monthafterdecember Жыл бұрын
I don’t play these games but I do enjoy how much lore and story there is
@EliteFreeman
@EliteFreeman Жыл бұрын
i think i should also take this opportunity to play honkai impact (again) since last time i did i was too into genshin and refused to play anything else. with that changed now this seems interesting ngl. very similar to fate/extra and fate/extella timeline stuff if anyone's played those
@firesparkprime5490
@firesparkprime5490 Жыл бұрын
Something that I feel like is worth mentioning is that it is believed that Star Rail and Honkai exist on the same branch while Genshin is on a separate branch. This explains why APHO Welt is in Star Rail and what the Astral Express is. From what it seems like the Astral Express is a variant of the divine key used to traverse bubble universes which is how APHO Welt got into Star Rail. This might also mean that given the existence of Star Rail Himeko, Seele and Bronya Honkai Bronya and Seele may be able to meet their Star Rail counterparts but that may be a stretch given that Kiana is now a god and the divine keys may lose their powers so the train may not be able to traverse bubble universes anymore. But at this point who knows given that part one of Honkai is over and Star Rail has yet to begin
@saaishpanhalkar6714
@saaishpanhalkar6714 Жыл бұрын
This is not related to video but can you please read princess mina of the fallen nation it reveals alot of things about celestia and abyss as well as the traveler
@itsalex1364
@itsalex1364 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see crossover event
@superslime8957
@superslime8957 Жыл бұрын
XianZhou LuoFu may have been to Tyvat. If you talk with the npc HuiXing, she will tell you that they had visited a world where fortune tellers using water mirror to watch people's fate(like mona), but it can be useful just because their world has less information for some reason.
@AstronScion
@AstronScion Жыл бұрын
Great video
@ZeniaArthur
@ZeniaArthur Жыл бұрын
I heard that when a leaf is closer to another leaf the more similarities it have with each other, like character's having similar appearances, is it true???
@jamesb4976
@jamesb4976 Жыл бұрын
So to put this into Pokémon terms the Imaginary Tree and the Sea of Quanta are Groudon and Kyogre who are always fighting and Honkai is Rayquaza who always stops them from fighting.
@pixadragon46
@pixadragon46 Жыл бұрын
Ehh more or less, a better analogy would be using the creation trio, Also there are supposedly beings that surpass the imaginary tree
@gilgagimmickkingofheroes6416
@gilgagimmickkingofheroes6416 Жыл бұрын
@@pixadragon46 The being Su talked to?
@pixadragon46
@pixadragon46 Жыл бұрын
@@gilgagimmickkingofheroes6416 that and the outer gods like yog sothoth
@Luluztucru
@Luluztucru Жыл бұрын
thank you, now I understand
@coolguy5133
@coolguy5133 29 күн бұрын
I wonder how the new 4th Hoyoverse game is going to fit in with all this.
@ben-taobeneton3945
@ben-taobeneton3945 Жыл бұрын
I counted 42 Leafs = 42 Honkai games. GG wallet-kun 👏
@theRaika
@theRaika Жыл бұрын
Was it always Honkai and not Houkai? Because I know Houkai to mean callapse, decay etc. Something that fit the actions of it in the games. 崩壊/houkai - collapse; crumbling; breaking down; caving in|decay
@18_moch.januarakbar17
@18_moch.januarakbar17 Жыл бұрын
Honkai for easier pronunciation to global player, but GGZ still use houkai not honkai
@Yaori999
@Yaori999 Жыл бұрын
It depends on the language. Houkai in Japanese, Honkai in English and Bēng Huài in Chinese. For JP and CN one it does indeed mean collapse, decay and stuff.
@todorokikun6560
@todorokikun6560 Жыл бұрын
In my further exploration in Honkai Star Rail in Storage Room of the Space station theres this wind glider from genshin and this broken sword of Himeko in Honkai Impact, can you please create a explanation or content about this, its just i cant get over with it HAHAHAHHA
@bisayafascist5725
@bisayafascist5725 Жыл бұрын
With how Genshin's world is designed I'm starting to think that instead of a Leaf of the Imaginary Tree Genshin's Irminsul is just a miniature Imaginary Tree and Teyvat is a landmass at the bottom of the Large Imaginary Tree. That's why they got some weird ass laws and rules unlike the other mihoyo titles that have Sci Fi laws, and the Forbidden Knowledge in Genshin is just the Laws of the Large Imaginary Tree seeping into Teyvat.
@18_moch.januarakbar17
@18_moch.januarakbar17 Жыл бұрын
Similar how GGZ "laws" allow character to be reincarnated there is probably more weird laws out there
@gilgaah7764
@gilgaah7764 Жыл бұрын
Or maybe simply genshin is not connected to anything honkai
@Generalofthest
@Generalofthest Жыл бұрын
It is indeed connected to Honkai, the devs themselves confirmed this.
@monoceroslegacy
@monoceroslegacy Жыл бұрын
@@gilgaah7764 devs have confirmed that even dvalin appears in HI3
@RazielBlair
@RazielBlair Жыл бұрын
@@gilgaah7764 We know it factually is, that is not in question.
@desud1974
@desud1974 Жыл бұрын
great video
@JellyChristal
@JellyChristal Жыл бұрын
When I saw the title:yes.
@Reinbex
@Reinbex Жыл бұрын
6:30 Such a satisfying moment in this vid
@DeeonleeCobb373
@DeeonleeCobb373 Жыл бұрын
5:24 IslandXD throwing in GGZ just to confuse everyone even more.
@Agendo.
@Agendo. Жыл бұрын
Wonder if he knows about the outer gods that exists outside of the laws of the imaginary tree and are above Honkai. And the other additional characters, Jhana, Kyuusyou etc who are also considered way more powerful that any herrscher or being from Hi3rd. Hi3rd got nerfed hard.
@Yaori999
@Yaori999 Жыл бұрын
@@Agendo. Everybody gangsta until GGZ Thanatos pops up. Pretty sure there are plenty more insanely powerful beings, but I only managed to get to the Himeko chapter on GLB account before it closed, so my knowledge is small.
@Snow-nw2ep
@Snow-nw2ep Жыл бұрын
I wonder if Tear of Themis connected too 🤔I mean we have some funny little ester egg in Star Rail
@jasperreyes5174
@jasperreyes5174 Жыл бұрын
Tears of Themis is the Leaf where Kiana is a Male... So is Mei and Bronya...
@henotic_paracosm
@henotic_paracosm Жыл бұрын
Even though I've never played Tears of Themis, I like to think it is its own branch on the Imaginary Tree, far far away from the Honkai games and Genshin.
@Remstar
@Remstar Жыл бұрын
@@jasperreyes5174 they actually made them male in a April fools event
@jasperreyes5174
@jasperreyes5174 Жыл бұрын
@@Remstar I know... But jokingly... The Connection of Tears of Themis to the greater HoYoVerse is that they just needed a game where all the Main GIrls are Guys to get into the Shojo Market Space... Turn Waifus into Husbandos...
@Yaori999
@Yaori999 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure APHO 2 and HSR both referenced ToT, but other than that there isn't much.
@josephoverton3740
@josephoverton3740 Жыл бұрын
Though I have forgotten the full context, if you talk to Welt during your time on Jarilo VI, you will have an option to talk to him about the events, and this eventually allows you to ask about his home planet and he mentions the Honkai. Have a god-awful memory, so I literally can't remember what he said.
@jiiroh5832
@jiiroh5832 Жыл бұрын
Gun girls z is also on the honkai universe
@SereneWolfgachastudio
@SereneWolfgachastudio Жыл бұрын
Not me getting a starrail ad while watching this, i totally agree because its just it had so much similarities to it.
@alyssongabriel5116
@alyssongabriel5116 Жыл бұрын
The fact theres some references around HSR which is kinda good and depressing
@azzamelshirazysyahbana2804
@azzamelshirazysyahbana2804 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention, welt is no diffrent person in HSR, he is straight from HI3, look at his image when either Warping for him, theres some few shattered glass and theres some character shown such as: Doctor Tesla(From the organization of anti-Entropy) and welt joyce, plus Void archive behind welt himself. My theory is that, since welt tells young himeko a white lie (basically welt killed himeko father and hides the truth), himeko then died,(well ya know ahem. "Final lesson") and so Welt felt a big regret, And in the Alice space manga, (theres so much source) theres also some few easteregg such as The picture of himeko from HSR (and so i think welt using the Cosmic juggernaut or divine key 2, to travel, and then Helps astra express anyway. This tells either because of the regret he felt for the death of himeko(hi3) and the white lie he tell to her about her father death.
@iron2000
@iron2000 Жыл бұрын
Oh didn't know the Sea and Tree are opposing. Only just at chapter 13 of the old story. Hmm not so what is Honkai but what is the role of Honkai. Newer HI3 chapters seems to say Honkai some alien species or something. Nice video.
@lostdrink9491
@lostdrink9491 Жыл бұрын
man,this is a good info! now i dont need to use my marvel movies technique to make people understand,just paste the link to your video🥳
@TheKnizzine
@TheKnizzine Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Welt is the same charater from HI3
@nicolopanti1169
@nicolopanti1169 Жыл бұрын
Idk about genshin but welt comfirmed that honkai impact is connected to star rail
@PiedeSnx
@PiedeSnx Жыл бұрын
Bubble universes aren't leaves. They are dead worlds that reformed in the Sea of Quanta
@yummywaseaten4956
@yummywaseaten4956 10 ай бұрын
In Honkai Impact 3rd Elysian Realm Vill-V had a blueprint of the exact train in Honkai :Star Rail .
@Makaronnz
@Makaronnz Жыл бұрын
I wonder when this is gonna be connected to GGZ
@nowh_8808
@nowh_8808 7 ай бұрын
we were told that the traveler could go to different worlds at the start of genshin could he be from one of the leafs? ngl it would be cool if we get a game where we play in aether and lumines original world
@adriantepes4355
@adriantepes4355 6 ай бұрын
I think Aether and Lumine are emanators since it's impossible for a regular person to cross an imaginary barrier without artificial devices. Not even the powers from SoQ can cross it
@julianrobertson1869
@julianrobertson1869 Жыл бұрын
This tree pruning sounds like nasuverse lore
@8bitdee
@8bitdee Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure one of the last chapters on Honkai 3rd stated that the worlds are not leaves but the BRANCHES. Branches have a chance to grow and expand, whereas leaves are just static.
@elainasynranelt
@elainasynranelt Жыл бұрын
The worlds are leaves, you’re thinking of bubble universes in quanta which aren’t leaves but static fragments of former leaves
@manoharalisa5829
@manoharalisa5829 Жыл бұрын
What if March 7th go to Tevyat and meet Paimon?? I hope they make a collab with Genshin and Add March as bow weapon user..
@nepgeardam6807
@nepgeardam6807 Жыл бұрын
at this point MiHoYo can make a Marvel Vs Capcom style Fighting game
@shsbhg8426
@shsbhg8426 Жыл бұрын
only welt is coming from honkai impact to visit starrail universum but lost carole at the train station XD where are you carole pepper ???
@Jingliu29407
@Jingliu29407 Жыл бұрын
Dead
@shsbhg8426
@shsbhg8426 Жыл бұрын
@@Jingliu29407 noooooooooo
@Jingliu29407
@Jingliu29407 Жыл бұрын
@@shsbhg8426 she die from being suck out of space because Welt was too save her
@shsbhg8426
@shsbhg8426 Жыл бұрын
@@Jingliu29407 R.I.P
@zacatrongaming
@zacatrongaming Жыл бұрын
so whati got from the honkai section is that if a game that falls under the honkai universe shuts down thats the leaf getting cut off
@sunova22
@sunova22 Жыл бұрын
I was play all of this games, but im not really get in to honkai impact because i last time i play its like loong time ago. If i remember correctly its about things happen with 2 seele. Now im really interested with honkai lore because star rail and genshin. My question is should i start new game or continue with my old account? and also is honkai impact beginner friendly?
@pixadragon46
@pixadragon46 Жыл бұрын
Honkai impact gives you a S rank character if you start a new account
@nicholaslienandjaja1815
@nicholaslienandjaja1815 5 ай бұрын
I heard that it’s also hinted that the universe of Tears of Themis might be located in the Imaginary Tree as well.
@nicholaslienandjaja1815
@nicholaslienandjaja1815 5 ай бұрын
Would like to see Zenless Zone Zero as part of the tree as well.
@PhuongTran-hb8mg
@PhuongTran-hb8mg Жыл бұрын
Well welt is someone from Honkai universe that fought with sirin and then we see genshin wings in HSR universe. My theory is genshin is past, HSR is present and HI3 is the future of HSR like a timeline. Edit: The thing is... It's nothing hard to explain we can see the similarities between raiden ei and raiden mei then the wings hinted in HSR and then welts which he will fight with sirin HOV like he did in comics. I can clearly tell that it's not the concept of universe but more like a concept of time.
@MbahtedjoOfficial
@MbahtedjoOfficial Жыл бұрын
From ggz and discusion in grup. Honkai is concept of destrusion it self, who always exist in mortal world and always exist in multiverse.
@cybermdo1292
@cybermdo1292 Жыл бұрын
make a video discussing welt bro. i've heard the HSR welt is the welt we know in HI3
@datzeusboi7784
@datzeusboi7784 Жыл бұрын
The way you described the "Honkai entity" made me think of the Sustainer of the Heavenly Principles. Because the Honkai is sustaining the tree and the water.
@masterofbloopers
@masterofbloopers Жыл бұрын
Apparently, the Welt in Star Rail is the same Welf from 3rd, he just jumped to a new universe. Source: some guy in some video I saw at some point. Edit: Oh! That "some guy" was you, IslandXD!
@shutupntakemymoni
@shutupntakemymoni Жыл бұрын
Guess I will play HSR for the story...
@FenrirXCIV
@FenrirXCIV Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention Welt in this game...
@they4852
@they4852 Жыл бұрын
they already give sign when the quest start that they are collab i saw hemiko broken sword and genshin glide
@manoharalisa5829
@manoharalisa5829 Жыл бұрын
I want March 7th go to Genshin.. I really want to play her.
@Alice_Haukea
@Alice_Haukea Жыл бұрын
I heard rumor that in patch 1.3 of Star Rail, the world of Teyvat is going to be added and we can visit parts of Mondstat. My first question would be; when in the Genshin time line would our visit be then? During the archon war? Before it? After all the events of Genshin? Who knows. Probably something early on or else we would be getting indirect spoilers of how Genshin plays out. The next question becomes; Based on what Star Rails explains in terms of lore and world building, can we use any of that to make educated guesses about Genshin's grand story? Can we put any new theories to the table yet?
@justamoogle5268
@justamoogle5268 Жыл бұрын
From my understanding standing each game is the branch of the imaginary tree while each account are the leaves
@bestghostgf
@bestghostgf 5 ай бұрын
i need an update on this theory
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