Is Italian football really back?

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The Athletic FC Podcast

The Athletic FC Podcast

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Serie A has five teams in European semi-finals this season, including a Milan derby tonight in the Champions League. So is it on its way back to compete with the Premier League? James Horncastle joins Ian Irving to explain...
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00:00 Is Italian football back?
4:22 Milan derby preview
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@TheGoodKid808
@TheGoodKid808 Жыл бұрын
Considering the financial state of Serie A, their results show how good coaches are in there.
@spelf
@spelf Жыл бұрын
Christ I'm ready to buy a ticket to Milan now after watching this 😊
@jovenguardian
@jovenguardian Жыл бұрын
Tactically, Vito De Palma (an iconic Calcio and soccer commentator), considered that final in 2003 as the perfect soccer match. If you watch it closely, and set aside your expectations of goals, you’ll appreciate the level of that game.
@PSRetro_
@PSRetro_ Жыл бұрын
It's been back for a few years now
@pedrongreen
@pedrongreen Жыл бұрын
Comparing Seria A to the Premier League is just a really silly thing to do and has nothing to do with wether it is back or not. Variety in terms of how many teams are wining the title do matter more than anything else.
@lorddiegocosta3307
@lorddiegocosta3307 Жыл бұрын
It'll be back when they sort out their marketing. Its got the most potential in the world of any league, yet at the moment even I, having only taken two marketing classes, can orchestrate a better marketing strategy than their department currently. They need better graphics and logos as well. Soon as their marketing manages to bring in more money and they can improve their stadiums. Its a long way to go but the blueprint is there
@gomey70
@gomey70 Жыл бұрын
Inter and AC Milan have had relatively easy routes to the semis, let's not get ahead of ourselves. Juve are a shambles. Napoli have looked good earlier in the season but weren't great against Milan in the quarters. I still hope an Italian team wins it this year, anyone but City or Madrid.
@vinhbao9738
@vinhbao9738 Жыл бұрын
Inter was in the group of death. Eliminating Barca was no small task.
@CC-xq2qi
@CC-xq2qi Жыл бұрын
Barça eliminated themselves I say this as an inter supporter
@TheGoodKid808
@TheGoodKid808 Жыл бұрын
@@CC-xq2qi What does that even mean?
@Bubajumba
@Bubajumba Жыл бұрын
I do agree its no reason to get ahead of ourselves but I wouldn't say they had a easy route to the semis. They probably had the hardest route, like what? Italian teams have had a great season both in CL and EL, whether that happens next season or not.
@Ll-ij2jh
@Ll-ij2jh Жыл бұрын
Liverpool had a easy route to the final last season, Manchester City also had a relatively easy route to the final in the 20/21 season so it’s swings and roundabouts for me. Plus if you look at historically inter have had some of the unfavourable group draws in champions league history
@vincedidiana5781
@vincedidiana5781 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Horncastle is a brilliant orator and writer. Such a brilliant writer.
@userjim83
@userjim83 Жыл бұрын
Depends what back means, are they back in terms of being competitive with the french, German and spanish sides( outside of madrid)? Yes( spain has dropped off which is a factor) Is Italian football back as genuine longterm competition with the elite like they used to be? Absolutely not.
@theredhall-thisisfootball
@theredhall-thisisfootball Жыл бұрын
We need Serie A back they've given us some of the Greatest moments in football and some of Thee Greatest players. Serie is getting more competitive three winners in the last three years while Man City is on its route to win 5 in 6. The Premier League is getting less competitive every season maybe Newcastle and Arsenal will change that.
@AS088
@AS088 Жыл бұрын
I cant wait for today game lets go Milan
@consueloconsuelo9903
@consueloconsuelo9903 Жыл бұрын
we are sooo back lessgoooo
@FlashMeterRed
@FlashMeterRed Жыл бұрын
Would be awesome if football fans started switching to Italian football in droves for the competitiveness at the top, just to get some reaction from the administrators of other leagues. If only Italian football was more interesting to watch.
@mustardking20
@mustardking20 Жыл бұрын
I would not be shocked if no Serie A teams make it to the semis next year.
@convey1997
@convey1997 Жыл бұрын
Their budget is very less so keeping that in mind they're doing great❤
@giovanni007
@giovanni007 7 ай бұрын
I don’t think so it’ll take waaay longer
@Ccccc-mi3tr
@Ccccc-mi3tr Жыл бұрын
4 winners in 4 years. On pitch is great, they just need to sort out their commercial business. Forza Italia
@ecapa0020
@ecapa0020 11 ай бұрын
What other league apart from Serie A has had 4 different title winners in the past 4 years? None. That makes Serie A the most competitive league in Europe right now.
@tjt6821
@tjt6821 Жыл бұрын
In a single year? Give it 3 at least.
@nicholasgage2095
@nicholasgage2095 Жыл бұрын
Italian football will always be special and it’s a fantastic derby but Chelsea beat AC in the group stages home and away pretty comfortably. If either team had been drawn against City or Real they would probably lose.
@clarenceonyekwere5428
@clarenceonyekwere5428 Жыл бұрын
Yup, a mix of favorable draws and luck, boosted them. Inter only met Portuguese clubs on the way to meeting another Italian club, AC weren't so good but met another Italian team. If any of these had met Liverpool, Chelsea, Madrid, City, PSG, Bayern or Dortmund in the knockouts, it may have been different
@tomatop9197
@tomatop9197 Жыл бұрын
Not really, no
@m.k.s.7417
@m.k.s.7417 11 ай бұрын
Sadly, not, well, @ least, not yet!!
@gratefulkm
@gratefulkm Жыл бұрын
They beat Spurs, Benfica, and Napoli, WOW!!!!!!!!
@rainingherschel4232
@rainingherschel4232 Жыл бұрын
Who did Liverpool beat last season?? Who did Man City beat when they got to the final ??? You can only beat who’s in front of you loool
@gratefulkm
@gratefulkm Жыл бұрын
@@rainingherschel4232 AC Milan 4-0 and Inter 0-2 San Siro game over Liverpool normally win their group, Napoli caught them cold and were superb , Hence Getting the only team that has a hoo doo on them , otherwise this is AC milan vs Liverpool And only one team would win that
@iv9449
@iv9449 Жыл бұрын
I've enjoyed serie a
@pestmo
@pestmo Жыл бұрын
Ever since Covid started, Serie A has been the worst level in decades.
@jacksonbyrne5835
@jacksonbyrne5835 Жыл бұрын
No, this year's draw was enormously favourable to the Italian teams. Anything outside of the UCL is not relevant in regards to Italian football being "back". They are very unlikely to see a winner this year, even with 2 in the semis. Napoli were wonderful this season, but you have to question whether the investment there will maintain that level.
@theredhall-thisisfootball
@theredhall-thisisfootball Жыл бұрын
Inter had Barcelona and Bayern in their group, Ac Milan had Chelsea an English team in the Group and knocked out another English team in Tottenham. City have won 5 in 6, in the last three years Inter Milan, Ac Milan and now Napoli have won it is the most competitive no team is getting 90 points in Italy. The top 4 race is wide open, Roma, Milan, Inter, Lazio, Juve and Atalanta all not safe.
@jacksonbyrne5835
@jacksonbyrne5835 Жыл бұрын
@@theredhall-thisisfootball You mentioned that milan had Chelsea in their group, but forgot to mention they literally lost BOTH games in the group to Chelsea lmaooo
@thompsonjake04
@thompsonjake04 Жыл бұрын
-4 different winners of the serie a in the past four years (epl likely only to have 2 in past 4 years with mci having 3 and liverpool 1) -Italian teams in three different european competitions is exceedingly unlikely to be down just to luck -Inter faced porto and benfica and while I understand the argument that porto is easy, benfica consistently matched PSG and even topped their group, yet had Inter faced PSG, a lower quality team in reality, people would be saying otherwise -Milan faced Tottenham and Napoli. They beat Tottenham convincingly and while that in itself isn't an achievement, they did show tactical flexibility and discipline against Napoli. Since the loss against Chelsea, they've only conceded one goal in the UCL, at the 90+3' from a great Oshimen header when the game was basically over. -Napoli played extremely well up until they were tactically outclassed by a disciplined defensive display from Milan. They outplayed Liverpool at home and matched them away, though Liverpool edged it at the very end. Yet, had Milan played Liverpool instead, a lower quality team in reality, people would be saying otherwise. Serie A is not fully back just yet, but to undermine their achievements and tactical discipline simply by saying the draw was favorable is going too far the other way. This is all with the caveat that serie a is severely economically handicapped demonstrated simply by the fact that Serie A champions get €23.4m (topsoccerblog.com/serie-a-prize-money-2022-2023/) while simply being promoted to the EPL guarantees you at least 3 times that £84.8m (www.goal.com/en-us/news/championship-play-off-final-how-much-premier-league-promotion-decider-worth/17nz5miq9ytix1wkm1w5q2kozd)
@thompsonjake04
@thompsonjake04 Жыл бұрын
@@jacksonbyrne5835 You forgot to mention the context of the injury crisis from Milan and their razor thin squad depth. Analysis requires nuance.
@darj617
@darj617 Жыл бұрын
Watch the winner of the Milan derby get absolutely demolished in the final by either Madrid or City.
@strictlyfootball7859
@strictlyfootball7859 Жыл бұрын
With all due respect absolutely not
@raymondc96
@raymondc96 Жыл бұрын
Not really to be fair, Remember even a horrible team like Chelsea were able to beat Ac milan not once but twicee twiceeeeeeee
@dirtyace1668
@dirtyace1668 Жыл бұрын
Yeah and then that same Milan team knocked out Napoli who spanked Liverpool and also knocked out Tottenham who beat Chelsea. Funny that.
@jjj8317
@jjj8317 Жыл бұрын
Short answer, no. The 2 Milano teams are overperforming in Europe, Inter finally got its sshit together, and Napoli found a wizzard hidden in russia. But thats about it. The underlying performance is just terrible.
@jamesmichaels4979
@jamesmichaels4979 Жыл бұрын
Italian football is a league. Not a team
@j.s3300
@j.s3300 Жыл бұрын
LOL, no. They just got easy paths
@epec20
@epec20 Жыл бұрын
Hope not, its bloody boring
@Micfri300
@Micfri300 Жыл бұрын
Look serie A can't have this success every season but at least we aren't arrogant like the premier league fanboys who despite this season being distinctly poor still think that the premier league has been the best division this season.
@Flipmode1900
@Flipmode1900 Жыл бұрын
Because they beat themselves (napoli v Milan) and beating benfica? Whoop de doo
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