Is Lin Dan the G.O.A.T | The Badminton Experience EP. 2

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Anders Antonsen

Anders Antonsen

Күн бұрын

Who is the best Men's singles player of all time?
How difficult is the transition from junior to senior level at the very top?
These are some of the topics we discuss on this episode of the podcast!
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Пікірлер: 217
@88feji
@88feji Жыл бұрын
When LD first appeared on the scene, he was already carrying an aura on the court which intimidated older established players like Taufik, Peter Gade, they were saying he was the most threatening player .... And LD's fierce personality helped his game ...
@esquelentez388
@esquelentez388 3 жыл бұрын
Tip: Add timestamps per topic, it eases the searching on the video for a certain topic a person wants to hear about.
@dtuyyyy
@dtuyyyy 3 жыл бұрын
they have to do it in order to keep MY view on future videos.
@AndersAntonsen_official
@AndersAntonsen_official 3 жыл бұрын
Yes sure! We will do it in the future upcoming episodes. Thanks for the input. We are new to this😄
@deepakalaimani2779
@deepakalaimani2779 3 жыл бұрын
I think in few years we can see vittingus commenting on live matches next to Gillian Clark..
@Badmintonforall
@Badmintonforall 3 жыл бұрын
clark sucks
@deepakalaimani2779
@deepakalaimani2779 3 жыл бұрын
True..she is biased
@AndersAntonsen_official
@AndersAntonsen_official 3 жыл бұрын
I think HK will make a great commentator in the future too😄🏸🙌
@TalkBadminton
@TalkBadminton 3 жыл бұрын
@@Badmintonforall painfull
@Bitelli81
@Bitelli81 3 жыл бұрын
Clark is awesome
@EAnt1010
@EAnt1010 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for mentioning, HK. Irwansyah is one of our national team coach 🙏🏻❤️
@udaradealwis8181
@udaradealwis8181 2 жыл бұрын
Please keep up the good work guys! 💯I think a podcast is all about sharing knowledge, experience and educating your audiance, adding a bit of entertainment or humor is alright. I think you guys are doing a great job. As the audiance we should also keep in mind that different people might have different perspectives or opinions. Sharing one's opinion is not a crime. I don't know about others, but I learned something from it. Please do not stop posting. This podcast is really informative.❤
@ThoughtfulAl
@ThoughtfulAl 3 жыл бұрын
About Lin Dan, I think you did a perfect job of both raising it (causing a little bit of viral reaction) and then explaining in detail about it. Nothing worse than launching a new YT channel and getting stuck in a dull rut, I much prefer your approach, go for it guys! Fans long to hear exactly how you feel about these matters. Also, ignore your coaches or mentors about this. They are sure to prefer a 'safe' but dull approach. This practice of Lin Dan and some other players delaying between rallies... I can sympathize with him deliberately slowing the game down as he got older and lost the great physical condition that he had, but still desperately wanted to keep winning, so he kept trying the tactic of delay. By comparison, I find Marin's frequent scream to be unbearable so I no longer watch her matches. A couple of time a match would be ok
@vijaysivasubramanian8974
@vijaysivasubramanian8974 3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, you are doing a great job of hosting this podcast. I especially liked the part about you guys being honest in voicing your opinions, which is a rarity these days. Every sport celebrity worth their name has a PR team and will just mouth pleasing things, you guys are coming out as a breadth of a fresh air. Keep it going! Oh, by the way I have an interesting name for your podcast, how about Ands & Hans?!
@joeychan6987
@joeychan6987 3 жыл бұрын
great show from the both of you. love the sarcasm and teasing of each other. brings some humor to the podcast! much love from malaysia :)
@AndersAntonsen_official
@AndersAntonsen_official 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Great to hear you like it. Shoutout 🇲🇾🙏
@julld8745
@julld8745 3 жыл бұрын
really love listening to your podcast keep it up!
@HaukurThordarson
@HaukurThordarson 3 жыл бұрын
Great podcast guys, keep up the good work! Would be great if you could get some of the mens doubles players as guests like Astrup, Rasmussen, Boe or Mogensen to discuss their thoughts on the doubles teams qualified for the olympics
@BestofBadminton
@BestofBadminton 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the channel growing!
@AndersAntonsen_official
@AndersAntonsen_official 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s continue that😊
@archstanton313
@archstanton313 3 жыл бұрын
Like so many of us, I'm so pleased you two decided to hook up for something like this. The rapport between you is quite promising.
@yvonnebb961
@yvonnebb961 3 жыл бұрын
so since we are being honest, I would like to know what Hans and Anders think of carolina marin shrieking scream after each point? even when her opponent makes unforced error. I myself had to mute the tv when marin is playing 😅🤫🤭 Looking forward to seeing Anders photoshot with a cat and D&G suit! :')
@neeldhebar2350
@neeldhebar2350 3 жыл бұрын
Good question
@ms.matchaparfait4571
@ms.matchaparfait4571 3 жыл бұрын
yup at some point it just becomes extremely annoying to watch the game because of marin unnecessary scream :'(
@vallee7715
@vallee7715 3 жыл бұрын
Good question! I know lot's of people are annoyed unless they are spanish, carolina would scream from point 1 till the end and each scream is more dramatic than the others :') I am very interested to know what professional athletes think of marin dramatic victory scream
@vonong2297
@vonong2297 3 жыл бұрын
don't kill me.....i am actually glad carolina is not in the olympic....i mean there's only sooo much my ear drum can take
@neeldhebar2350
@neeldhebar2350 3 жыл бұрын
@@vallee7715 Hmm, they may be friends with her and unwilling to speak about it in a negative manner. Anders and Hans, will you be able to speak truthfully about this?
@MrOberschlumpf
@MrOberschlumpf 3 жыл бұрын
How would you try to make Badminton "easier" to watch in television. I mean, as a Badminton fan I love watching games of the stars but for many other people it seems to be quiet boring because it sometimes looks slower than it is or the atmosphere is not that great. You think one could try different camera postions or movements or anything? Also love the comment about vittinghus commentating next to Gillian Clark...she really adds much joy to watching badminton!!! Love your work guys! Cheers
@VeenapaniBandi
@VeenapaniBandi 3 жыл бұрын
Great podcast again l am hungary for more!!
@keerthi4516
@keerthi4516 3 жыл бұрын
It was a good podcast Anders💯.In the next podcast you could talk about how will you prepare for match and what songs or playlist you’ll listen.how will you handle pressure situations.
@88feji
@88feji Жыл бұрын
.... and the craziest thing about LD that no other player dares to even try ..... is that he has the MOST EPIC victory celebration ever, multiple times he's ran madly around the court, torn his shirt, crazy air punches, military salutes etc etc .... nobody ever has the guts to celebrate like that in badminton history, it takes a big personality to celebrate like that, you don't see that level of celebration in tennis either .... maybe soccer. LD will forever be iconic, he's born to be goat not just in skills but also personality ...
@ashabisht1617
@ashabisht1617 8 ай бұрын
Most beautiful words I have come across lately about my LEGEND LIN DAN THE G. O. A. T OF BADMINTON 🏸
@kartikeyrai3095
@kartikeyrai3095 3 жыл бұрын
All the best for Olympics Anders! Love and support from India 🇮🇳
@KillerTacos54
@KillerTacos54 3 жыл бұрын
Great podcast!
@tichaboyfr
@tichaboyfr 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video guys it's great to hear your insights on badminton ! btw 20:21 wouldn't you put the World Tour finals as big as an event like the world championship ?
@rohanjoshi4569
@rohanjoshi4569 3 жыл бұрын
Great podcast....I wanted to ask you how important mental fortitude is in the clutch part of the game??..your game against Momota where you won in 3 games and your game against Kidambi in World tour finals were treat to watch. You played exceptionally well in the later part of those matches, It was quite inspiring. 😃😃 All the best for olympics 👍👍
@AndersAntonsen_official
@AndersAntonsen_official 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. We will definitely get to the mental aspect of badminton many times!
@minnh2094
@minnh2094 9 ай бұрын
Love seeing you sweating there about the GOAT selection ROFL. Love from CN!
@weihe28
@weihe28 3 жыл бұрын
Like this show, keep it coming, good work! Greetings from China.
@AndersAntonsen_official
@AndersAntonsen_official 3 жыл бұрын
Hey China 🇨🇳😄
@patrickhoogendoorn1317
@patrickhoogendoorn1317 2 жыл бұрын
Again Hans, you won the Dutch International, but never won the Dutch Open, remember last time some guy called Momota came back on court ;-) Hope to see you perform here sometime again. Keep up with the nice podcasts.
@nihalsameer6417
@nihalsameer6417 3 жыл бұрын
How to implement the forearm rotation into your overhead shots like smash and clear? Also please add in any thoughts from HK Vittinghus or Viktor Axelson. Love you, hoping that you win the Olymics
@alainpedan2839
@alainpedan2839 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this "Badminton Experience" (excellent name) EP 2 ! I appreciate your honesty, as well as your humour. Maybe, one suggestion : spend less time on each topic, in order to deal with more than 2 topics in the time of the podcast. Anyway, look forward seeing next one soon !
@AndersAntonsen_official
@AndersAntonsen_official 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback. I guess some topics require more time but I get you!🙏
@epoxone
@epoxone 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff guys!! Question for next episode: Why am i right in saying that Women Singles owns Mens Singles at the moment? And why is it solely TTY's fault? :D
@liushiyou6096
@liushiyou6096 3 жыл бұрын
Never mind. I’m on Weibo every day,and I didn’t know about what you said about Lin Dan. And it’s fine, you can just be honest to say whatever you want. It’s also interesting for the Chinese audience.
@andersonnyeo
@andersonnyeo 3 жыл бұрын
I regret watching you and Hans's podcast so late it was so goodd 😭
@AndersAntonsen_official
@AndersAntonsen_official 3 жыл бұрын
Subscribe to the Channel and you will always be first when a new episode drops😉
@mototest3228
@mototest3228 3 жыл бұрын
Hey can you do a podcast about rackets and strings? Tension, how often do you restring ur rackets, how many rackets you need per year, which racket specs you prefer ... etc. Thanks 😎
@elisrifdananailafalabiba375
@elisrifdananailafalabiba375 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy to listened your podcast guys 🔥 Maybe next guest is my big boss "Vincent" 😁✌️ The bear is Mr. Oneminton, maybe 🤓
@anantaastikbajpaie2269
@anantaastikbajpaie2269 3 жыл бұрын
I think badminton tutorial will came first,but this....❤️🙏
@pawepradzin7153
@pawepradzin7153 11 ай бұрын
At the'' moment of top form'' : 1 LIN Dan 2.Axelsen 3.MOMOTA 4.LCW 5Hidayat 6 Chen Long 7.GADE
@amarreezlan7131
@amarreezlan7131 3 жыл бұрын
for QnA: what do you do after losing a match? how would you take care of your mental capabilities afterwards?
@carrotking7437
@carrotking7437 3 жыл бұрын
The lighting is much better in this episode also great episode ! Maybe call the bear ‘anthony growl-ting’ that is the best I can come up with
@AndersAntonsen_official
@AndersAntonsen_official 3 жыл бұрын
Haha good name 😂
@Aditya.khatricmcold
@Aditya.khatricmcold 3 жыл бұрын
Hello bro love your gameplay ❤️👍
@rishabhsharma1255
@rishabhsharma1255 3 жыл бұрын
There is doubt that SUPER DAN is a GOAT AND LEGEND AND DON'T FORGET THE ANOTHER LEGEND LEE CHONG WEI❤❤❤💯💯💯
@debtarupal3908
@debtarupal3908 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Anders Love from India and well wishes to you for the Olympics Want a ground workout
@Randimalt
@Randimalt 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to hear both of you..what your opinion about victor alxesen ..
@sanketpahurkar2588
@sanketpahurkar2588 Жыл бұрын
There had been many great players, there are many great players, there will be many great players coming but there will be ONLY ONE LIN DAN.
@nutube6291
@nutube6291 3 жыл бұрын
Great going guys. Do you think the judge, service judge, or the line judge is biased (sometimes)? Did either of you face such a siuation?
@kaleshksekhar2304
@kaleshksekhar2304 Жыл бұрын
Lin Dan is Greatest player of all time in badmanton history 😍😍😍🔥Goat
@shufiabidi3290
@shufiabidi3290 10 ай бұрын
Yes. I love Lin Dan forever. And Taufik Hidayat hehehe
@ThoughtfulAl
@ThoughtfulAl 3 жыл бұрын
Good motivational talk! I'm 57 and haven't played hard for about 25 years, but I do believe that if I surround myself with the right people I can get up off this couch and make it to the refrigerator for a snack.
@raymondhartono
@raymondhartono 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyable badminton experience ◡̈
@linusmll
@linusmll 3 жыл бұрын
Verdensklasse podcast endnu en gang! Fantastisk. Hvad tror du DK - Rusland ender i dag Anders?
@justchess7402
@justchess7402 3 жыл бұрын
Mine 2 danske favorit spillere.
@foreverize
@foreverize 3 жыл бұрын
Could you make a timestamp for next video?
@wonderboy4471
@wonderboy4471 3 жыл бұрын
U guys are funny :)
@ranvirchauhan8566
@ranvirchauhan8566 3 жыл бұрын
It seems like vittingush and antosen is busy at office doing work but still enjoying
@nandaki8581
@nandaki8581 3 жыл бұрын
Great podcast and topics are interesting. Q and A for next episode. 1) anders..how many kilometers you run per week to keep yourself physically fit for olympics or any tournament. 2)Hans. Do you change your play style to reduce injury as you are senior in your age group and want to prolog your career.
@AndersAntonsen_official
@AndersAntonsen_official 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for listening! And for the questions 👍
@karl-emilsichlau1476
@karl-emilsichlau1476 3 жыл бұрын
Fed podcast, der er noget med akustikken men ellers mega fedt :)
@watchman835
@watchman835 2 жыл бұрын
Lin Dan is slow between rallies because he is beautiful, he can just swag around and umpires just appreciate his pace and forgot about time.
@ashabisht1617
@ashabisht1617 8 ай бұрын
Beautiful words explaining LIN DAN THE LEGEND ❤️❤️
@WilliamQuan
@WilliamQuan 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing Anders in a D&G photo shoot come Paris 2024 :)
@alexandertrabajo
@alexandertrabajo 3 жыл бұрын
Please tell what kind of sport nutrition and adds do you use. And the deep question: why asian players generally better than european, just because of badminton popularity or something genetic qualities?
@zaifsayyed1245
@zaifsayyed1245 3 жыл бұрын
@Anders Antonsen your a complete all rounder
@debtarupal3908
@debtarupal3908 3 жыл бұрын
Keep working hard
@AndersAntonsen_official
@AndersAntonsen_official 3 жыл бұрын
Always!🙏
@chinadonghuanews9844
@chinadonghuanews9844 2 жыл бұрын
Start Lin dan's topic at 16:56
@walkingalive189
@walkingalive189 Жыл бұрын
Hero we needed but never deserved
@aanyagupta6210
@aanyagupta6210 3 жыл бұрын
You should upload these at spotify 🙏
@AndersAntonsen_official
@AndersAntonsen_official 3 жыл бұрын
It already is on Spotify! - and soon more audio platforms :)
@dinewwimalaratne2644
@dinewwimalaratne2644 3 жыл бұрын
Can u advice teenage players what is the best way they can strengthen their legs & improve stamina?
@badmintonworld6542
@badmintonworld6542 3 жыл бұрын
Hi I am Kaushik from India big fan of both
@sammigismar5864
@sammigismar5864 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is good to learn English, better than British podcast 😁
@watchman835
@watchman835 2 жыл бұрын
Hilarious 😂 🤣
@justchess7402
@justchess7402 3 жыл бұрын
Yes,,, LD is G.O.A.T
@leob4403
@leob4403 3 жыл бұрын
Anders would you consider learning Chinese like Viktor, do you think it would improve your game in any way
@anantaastikbajpaie2269
@anantaastikbajpaie2269 3 жыл бұрын
Now, they will understand Lin as goat 🐐.😂
@nischithraghav583
@nischithraghav583 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Nischith from INDIA 🇮🇳
@prajnawirarimbawan5038
@prajnawirarimbawan5038 3 жыл бұрын
What is your prediction denmark vs russia tonight?
@lothuakiu949
@lothuakiu949 3 жыл бұрын
I love both Andres and Axelsen as a player but I have never seen them together in a vlog or chilling out together. I wonder if they are good friends outside the court.
@saketautee2329
@saketautee2329 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter.. None of our business
@lothuakiu949
@lothuakiu949 3 жыл бұрын
@@saketautee2329 it's none of our business but just my take in it . It is what it is
@louisedwardnugroho3072
@louisedwardnugroho3072 3 жыл бұрын
Being slow on cpurt doesnt mean ur bad. It means you are so good at predicting and anticipating. And i believe he also can easily move faster but i didnt think there is need for that vexause he can cover all the court already.
@sriramv6565
@sriramv6565 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any photo , two of you 5 years or 10 year back please share it Anders antenson is kid and h k vitinghus is less than 25 years of age . Really good to see that image
@sandman6088
@sandman6088 3 жыл бұрын
Name the bear Lin Dan. 😂
@louong93
@louong93 2 жыл бұрын
When Lin Dan is debated as the greatest none talk about Lcw , Peter Gade and Taufik hidayat. But when Lcw is debated as Malaysias greatest , tons of Lin Dan's fans said that Ld is better.
@JohnSmith-kj3jy
@JohnSmith-kj3jy 2 жыл бұрын
Lin Dan has 2 Olympic gold and 5 world championship wins and has a winning record against LCW so he’s a better player
@louong93
@louong93 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-kj3jyI didn't said Lcw is the greatest but Malaysian best player. Those Malaysian Lin Dan fans doesn't really know what they are talking. There is no player will be like Lcw, said Malaysian great Datuk misbun sidek.
@JohnSmith-kj3jy
@JohnSmith-kj3jy 2 жыл бұрын
@@louong93 well then maybe they misunderstood the question.
@anthonylow4070
@anthonylow4070 3 жыл бұрын
40:57 Dad regularly feeds the clown!
@neosera5873
@neosera5873 3 жыл бұрын
The stance of that bear is like a champion. How about calling him 'Johan' which means champion in the Malay language.
@naavishnair4317
@naavishnair4317 3 жыл бұрын
Name for the mascot : Bearminton
@TalkBadminton
@TalkBadminton 3 жыл бұрын
maybe Viktor should do your translations in the future.
@yugalnathoo3545
@yugalnathoo3545 3 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to point out that Eriksen got a cardiac arrest and not a heart attack. These two are different as they have different causes! Heart attack briefly is caused by clogged blood vessels in the heart and arrest is caused by structural abnormalities/physiological disruptions.
@mshieh70
@mshieh70 3 жыл бұрын
He is.
@keqinli8028
@keqinli8028 2 жыл бұрын
I just read the comments in Weibo, I think some fans could be got irritated by the translation. Although people who watched Lin Dan's matches from 10+ years ago have to admitted that he slowed down from 2015 since injury and age
@zakir7008
@zakir7008 3 жыл бұрын
Could you talk about the financial side of badminton
@PewPewFreedom
@PewPewFreedom 3 жыл бұрын
Not enough to pay the bills
@toastersman217
@toastersman217 3 жыл бұрын
I wish that you can invite asian famous players for the podcast (e.g. Lin Dan, Lee Chong Wei, Taufik Hidayat, Kento Momota, Lee Zii Jia, Shi Yuqui, etc.). The only thing is that I dont think that they are fluent in English.
@febri1989
@febri1989 3 жыл бұрын
Nice suggestion. I think Malaysian players will have no problem speaking in English since it is their second language.
@fikarfebrian7068
@fikarfebrian7068 2 жыл бұрын
Like seriously(?) Taufik Hidayat does speak english.
@tomwu163
@tomwu163 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao Anders is taking soo long at the end and then has the audacity to tell Hans to do the outro. Could have stopped anytime before the 40 minute mark. Still, love your podcast, super insightful and interesting to follow your dynamic.
@AndersAntonsen_official
@AndersAntonsen_official 3 жыл бұрын
😂🙌
@Vicky-ns6qy
@Vicky-ns6qy 3 жыл бұрын
Can a retired singles players, play doubles on a Danish national level?
@nikhilbhardwaj236
@nikhilbhardwaj236 Жыл бұрын
It would be damn great if you will invite the G.O.A.T - commentator "Gillian Clark". She is the voice of badminton - a soul.
@slipmat1331
@slipmat1331 2 жыл бұрын
Victor the Bear…obviously ;-) Lin Dan is the GOAT…without question
@jacobi321l
@jacobi321l 3 жыл бұрын
Billedet er ikke saerlig skarpt! Men god episode!
@AndersAntonsen_official
@AndersAntonsen_official 3 жыл бұрын
Enig. Vi bliver forhåbentlig bedre til alt det tekniske hen af vejen 😄
@dikalrd9331
@dikalrd9331 3 жыл бұрын
if possible make different segment which will be more interesting to watch
@ayongkhang2030
@ayongkhang2030 3 жыл бұрын
The best of Rudy Hartono - won 8x All England Championship, 7x consecutively...👍
@PewPewFreedom
@PewPewFreedom 3 жыл бұрын
No Olympics or WC for Rudy
@ernawatythomas4600
@ernawatythomas4600 2 жыл бұрын
@@PewPewFreedom Rudy Hartono won a gold medal of World Badminton Championship in 1980
@PewPewFreedom
@PewPewFreedom 2 жыл бұрын
@@ernawatythomas4600 Lin Dan won 5 gold medals in WC
@budakeramat1981
@budakeramat1981 Жыл бұрын
​@@PewPewFreedomtrue,Lin dan 5 times world cham,Rudy one only,Lin dan goat,father and god of badminton in the world
@fm00021
@fm00021 3 жыл бұрын
who is the Indonesian player that HK Vittinghus refers to?
@bavariandoll
@bavariandoll 3 жыл бұрын
i think it's irwansyah, the pronunciation is a little bit distorted by his accent 😅
@NomuraTachi
@NomuraTachi 3 жыл бұрын
named the bear "bambang"
@nischithraghav583
@nischithraghav583 3 жыл бұрын
Give him a name like adrvitingous both of your name😁
@Dear-wo1mn
@Dear-wo1mn 2 жыл бұрын
We respect Lin Dan but LCW will always be our legend. From a Malaysian fan :)
@kaustavborah9948
@kaustavborah9948 3 жыл бұрын
Name suggestion for that toy 🤔 May u can call it Oreo or cutas
@LisaL.
@LisaL. 2 жыл бұрын
you guys really should learn Mandarin, the market in China, Malaysia, Singapore, Taiwan is huge
@nihalsameer6417
@nihalsameer6417 3 жыл бұрын
First
@amit4266
@amit4266 3 жыл бұрын
did u colour your hair golden or its just a shine😂
@gabrielstanley5348
@gabrielstanley5348 2 жыл бұрын
2008-2010 version of Lin Dan is just ruthless and aggressive. He kinda slow down after 2012 olympic where he's more into tactical and strategy as Lee Chong Wei able to close the gap after that. LCW defensive abilities always get the best of Lin Dan so Lin Dan had to change his play style, they both push each other in a good way. Nowadays the Men singles is much tighter, Antonsen, Axelsen, Lee zii Jia, Chou tien chen, Momota, Loh kean yew, Ginting and Chen Long.
@shap329
@shap329 3 жыл бұрын
"The great lying" podcast name it like that so there is no controversy 😇
@deepakalaimani2779
@deepakalaimani2779 3 жыл бұрын
I think extremely honest badminton
@shap329
@shap329 3 жыл бұрын
@@deepakalaimani2779 yes
@jimyang8824
@jimyang8824 2 жыл бұрын
18:33 Chen Long has entered the chat
@Mr7Cavalier7
@Mr7Cavalier7 2 жыл бұрын
LD vs LCW is not even a debate It's not even close If this is an american sport, you wouldn't even hear about that comparison Lin Dan is clearly the GOAT LCW vs Chen long is a better argument
@kinantantjiptawirawan1326
@kinantantjiptawirawan1326 Жыл бұрын
someone who actually understand
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