Stop! _Stop!_ He's already dead...! 😢

Copying my comment from another video must be fun there eh.

That interview with Keefe. That was a face of someone knowing he is going to die. Ok he could still speak but he was done.

- that game was impossible to win. if the leafs win, there's a huge uproar from the league for putting their employee in net in a game they were losing and end up winning the game - yeah, losing to columbus was embarrassing, but that was also his first ever time with "playoff" hockey in a covid ravaged season, so it's forgivable - that canucks team went on to beat every other team in the division after battling covid, so that's a pretty lame cop-out - they also came back 4-1 against tampa (in the playoffs), 4-1 against tampa in the regular season, 5-0 against columbus... etc. pointing out his "performance" one game of the year and dictating a coach's ability is ridiculous - they *needed* to drop freddy at that point. i loved freddy in toronto and would've loved to keep him, but at that time campbell was significantly out-playing freddy, and it was a good thing they did swap to him. as for samsonov in 2024, look at samsonov's record/save % from january 2024 to now. now look at jones', now look at woll's... tell me who you would put as your starter for game 1. if you say "not samsonov!" then you're just foolish. - yeah, that series was abysmal, and he was stuffed into a locker - both those games were really close, well played games by the team? they just came up short. what's the point you're trying to make here? man i'm so sick of these comments, i don't like keefe either but the fact that you guys have to move goalposts so much to make a point makes me not want to support your cause.

@@derps8690 Not even bothering to read after your first comment. So it was better to lose to zamboni driver goalie then have some possible problems from nhl? Were they supposed to deliver better goalie for opposite team? They were not and what uproar is that? Has this happened before and there was a huge uproar? I don't care much about leafs so I am non biased. I dont blame the players. Some bad contracts but it's no Tavares etc fault!

Dude is talking out of his ass, he doesn't know anything about migraines. Same goes for a lot of hockey pundits that are giving Nylander flack for not "sucking it up", as if its just a foggy head you can shake with Tylenol. Dude didn't miss a game in years, you think he just didn't feel like playing game 1-3? ffs....

Yeah shame on the media for downplaying the migraine story. I wouldn't wish a migraine on my worst enemy. Functioning in a playoff hockey game sounds impossible, give a rest ppl

@@MussellRartin I don't think there was definitive proof to report the migraines, so the media played it right. It was just gossip via Elliot Friedman. He's usually right, but I'm not aware of it being an official statement from the Leafs. Only the Toronto Sun would report speculation as fact lol.

@@yesyesnononoyou migraine people get me up tight I get migraines almost daily …yes migraines the kind yo7 can’t see straight….I can’t live my life in a dark room …I am a parent …I work….so..I take handfuls of Advil usually I start with 4-5 Advil wait an hour if no change I pop 2 more…been doing it for more than a decade….I go through at least 50 Advil a week minimum…and as crazy as it sounds it works I can allways get rid of it eventually…..my wife on the other hand complains she has a bad headache and I ask her did you take any Advil?….lol she responds no…. I don’t get it some people would rather have one and complain about it than do what ever it takes to get rid of it

Agree 100%, but they didn't say they have any issue with it if it is in fact migraines, they acknowledged migraines can keep you out. They just don't believe that migraines are the real reason. I don't have an opinion on that just clarifying

The Leafs are bad because nobody teaches the Alphabet in Ontario.

Woosh. It's a joke in regard to Keef saying the team played with effort.

@@CurriedBat uhh wha? swing an a miss homie, you wanna try again? the leafs are bad for so many reasons and that's all you got?

I would of said a$$hole with Marner

@@CurriedBat How did you miss the obvious "A for Effort" joke

Adam was the biggest advocate for Dubas as well. I don’t get it

@@ellaella5537 Adam is the worst of Toronto Media. Confidently wrong constantly. Knows nothing about the actual sport. Just likes hearing himself talk.

You dont know hockey if you don’t think these kids don’t have talent. You don’t score 70-100 pts consistently and not have talent.

They don't have playoff talent / Grit.

“Talent” is something you say about your toddler being on the ice the first time around. After that it’s working on developing skills, team play, stamina, hockey psychology etc. and good players excel as they keep improving those complete skill sets as a person and above all being adaptable team players who work their asses off and know that nothing is handed to them but they have to be accountable themselves. Look at the Leafs and tell me this is a team of complete, competent, accountable, full effort team-players…

if it shows up in regular season and not in the playoffs, it’s a culture issue. clearly they are talented and gifted… they have a culture issue and they’ve always needed a goalie. it’s as simple as that and it’s been the same for years? can you think of a series where the leafs have had a better goalie than the opponent? can you think of a series where the leafs have competed and worked for a full series? its culture and goaltending.

@@__ink__ They wouldve been in round 3 minimum quite often if they were.

He’s an absolute idiot. Basic understanding of the game is a stretch. This is the three amigos who make leaf content. But man, they are so basic. They miss so much of it all.

No!

Let's be honest mitch should've been gone 3 years ago

Were you the one at Boston Pizza who said he'd be traded for Demko though? Because that's a way different thing...

Leafs fans bro.

You just explained leafs culture. Not just one player From ownership to managers to coaches to players to fans.

He kinda reminds me of Jagr. Ultra talented but doesn’t play with that extra ooomph because he is ultra talented. You watch and think “if he just had a slight mean streak or a desire to be more than just an elite goal scorer, he could do it.” But I think he’s content with just scoring goals. It’s reminiscent of NBA players like Durant or Harden who are happy with scoring 32ppg but are a huge liability defensively. They just don’t care and will proudly say “they pay me to score”. That’s what separates guys like Jordan and Kobe, they want to be great at EVERYTHING. Take pride in their defense as much as offense.

You don’t score 69 goals in a season against the best players in the world by not “working hard”. Keefe isn’t scared of the players, he knows he’s not coming back next year. He’s not throwing anyone under the bus because he knows he’s be looking for a new job next year. That’s what good coach does, he’s going down with his ship and he’ll take the blame. As he should and anyone else who thought this coaching setup was going to be successful.

M and M can both go then.

Keefe never had the room. That's why he was brought on.

Common knowledge, dude. But these clowns aren't geniuses!

Which makes sense. Nylander has always had heart. He may not be the best player on the team, but he's definitely the best player on the team with heart. Matthews a close second.

@@TheEDFLegacy Matthews is not a close second lol. I think Nylander is talking to Matthews when he says to shoot the puck. Matthews is the core of the problem with this team, and they can't be successful with him being the "leader" of this team.

@@TheEDFLegacy Mathews is not even close to being the second best player on the team. The best players have heart, grit, and determination, none of which Mathews has. Mathews only cares about his paycheck and his records.

@@TheEDFLegacyhuh? A player who has heart would not perform this way during the playoffs. Matthew only plays for himself.

Leafs are not fully healthy. Matts is playing through something, nylander was out the first 3, marner high ankle sprain not fully healed. Bobby mcmann is out. Not to mention stuff we're not told. I'm not making excuses, just saying they are not fully healthy.

@@shazta88the original comment said a fully healthy Leafs team would STILL lose in 7 games to Boston. He didn’t say the Leafs ARE fully healthy.

@@shazta88 AND??

Yeah. Take it off the ice. Regroup as a squad and come back to tear up the next 3 games. Anything short of a shutout next 2 games is irredeemable

It is the perfect storm of 4 characters that if they each played individually on teams they would be absorbed by the larger culture The COLLECTION OF THE 4 is playoff toxic

LOL. Moronic take. Off the ice and don't throw your gloves off and pout. Agree with them calling him out but should be in the locker room

The fire is good compared to being apathetic, but yelling at eachother is never constructive. The Av's Jared Bednar preaches constantly about keeping cool and sticking to your game regardless of the score, and they get insane comeback wins regularly - that team seems absolutely tilt proof, and plays some of their best hockey while behind

What does these guys know about winning culture? They are the soft as s hit.

Exactly. There is an atmosphere of denial on the team it seems. It's ALL in their heads... well. .that and bad coaching.

I disagree. I've always thought Marner to be self-centered and childish. You can tell by how he acts on and off the ice, but what did it for me was during the contract negotiations. He has his own best interests at heart, not the interest of the team. He wants the money, not the cup.

Respectfully, this conversation has nothing to do with this series. We've seen this out of Mitch 8 straight years.

This is just one segment of the entire show where they discuss Marner, Keefe, Samsonov, et al

100% right, Leafs need a new coaching staff with playoff experience and overhaul the defense and this team will be scary to play against.

I agree. It was a huge mistake to keep the core intact, and that falls squarely on Shanahan, because Dubas was about to do exactly that, then got sacked because Shanahan couldn't deal with the fact that Dubas wanted some time with this family to figure out his future on a contract year.

Dubas was not good either bro

@@TheEDFLegacy to be fair dubas and Shanny put the leafs in this mess to begin with .. I don’t mind having a different set of eyes now

As long the leafs dont take that habs prospect who likes filming his amourous adventures.

I completely agree with you. Unfortunately not many people like doing math so they live in ignorance lol

They didn't want to pay him 5.25m because they didn't think he was worth it. I'm glad he is continuing to play well. I used to be mad when former Leafs would find success elsewhere. But now it's just a part of it

Wait, you think that Marner is successful because of Matthews? Did Marner not set up Tavares for 47 goals a few seasons ago? Marner will be successful wherever he goes.

He will be hated and Toronto will never resign him but yes he has 1 year left

All that skill is out the window in playoff hockey.

@@Marixa1979 If you’re trying to argue that Mitch Marner is incredible because prime John Tavares (a former 1st overall pick) at age 28 scored 47 goals next to him, be my guest! Not exactly going to persuade anyone with that one though!

@@johngreystone His assured decision not to go is not really at issue, though; his play in the playoffs is what causes vitriol. If he scores 8 points over the next 3 games and carries the Leafs through to the next round and beyond (as a player paid his salary should be expected to do), he can alleviate all issues. Problem is, year after year, he’s shown he can’t do it in the postseason. The organization still has to abide by the contract that it signed, regardless. If the fans want to be mad at anybody, blame past and current management for enabling four relatively unproven young men to effectively dictate the ultimate competitiveness of the team.

you forgot to mention this team never had a legit Captain, Tavares is weak, too quiet..remember why O`Reilly didn`t want to stay in Toronto? I don`t think it was money issue but what he experienced with the team, no leadership, ZERO!

McDavid, heart and drive like Hyman. The core 4 got spoilt with Hyman doing all the work.

Dude I know right, it's crazy, people who have never experienced a migraine literally think it's similar to a headache. That's like comparing a sprained ankle to a broken bone in your leg. With a true migraine you cannot physically play hockey no matter who "hard nosed and tough" you are. Shea Weber is missing Stanley Cup finals games if he gets a severe migraine. You cannot walk straight let alone skate and play a sport ...

I've had migraines that keep me bed ridden for multiple days. It's more short term debilitating than broken bones I've had...there is no playing through a bad migraine no matter how tough you are.

4 at 11 mill.

They have no actual skills, how else are they suppose to pay their rent/mortgage.

Lmao salty Laughs fan over here

Vegas will trade one of their top guys to Utah for Future considerations to bring in Marner.

Can I have what you’re smoking?

So trade a 60+ goalscorer and keep a 60 assists guy 😂 pass the blunt

yikes tavares has a year left at 11 mil and nmc. Nvm you guys are fucked

If I could pick any coach I’d pick John Cooper but that will never happen. They need someone with a strong voice.

It will have to be an experienced coach that replaced Keefe. No more first time NHL coaches. Rod Brind'amour doesn't have a contract with Carolina next year. Maybe Quenneville. But it's gotta be someone that holds guys accountable and is not afraid to hurt their feelings. And the Leafs will have to retain AT LEAST 50% salary if they are able to trade Marner.

@@pomerlain8924 Mathews doesn't want to be coached. That's what happened to Babcock lmao.

Only for McAvoy.

@@willsk7068 Pass lol

What!?? Are you kidding me? What are you smoking? Typical leafs fan , holy smokes. 😳 It’s actually pathetic at this point guys. Come on now? You’re so delusional.

Marner to Utah for some draft picks. Get those draft picks.

yup, he's just another victim of the TO hockey media and fanbase. He'll never be a Wendel Clark like the fans want but he will find success elsewhere once he leaves the fishbowl. The hate for this guy is just insane rn considering the entire team is playing like shite

@@MussellRartin as a clear-eyed Marner fan, this whole debacle has been ridiculous. He has underperformed in this series, yes, but everybody else has. The issue is he's the scape goat due to his contract. There is a massive Leafs camp that wants to move him just based on that, and then there the ones who just hate him due to the perception that he's soft. These same people would call Gretzky soft so there you have it. Marner is a future HoF talent and perhaps even a generational playmaker. If Team Canada revealed their roster today, guess who's on the top line? None of this matter to Leafs fans. If it was up to me I would move everyone BUT Marner, including Mathews and Reilly...

Domi had more 5on5 primary assists and even just 5on5 assists in general I believe… Marner is too easy to neutralize, that will be the case on any team

JT is an NPC, total zombie

WHY would florida trade matthew tkachuk LOL, dude is perfect for that team

Yeah thats how i see it, extremely talented kid who's just become the latest punching bag even though the entire team is playing like shite rn. Kessel, Freddy, Kadre, Marner, sure I'm missing a few from the blame list