Is Patrick Kane Going to Remain a Red Wing?

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Healthy Scratch Red Wings Report

Ай бұрын

Buschy makes his case for keeping Patrick Kane on the Detroit Red Wings for multiple seasons for multiple reasons!
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@edschlichting5576
@edschlichting5576 Ай бұрын
They absolutely need to sign Kane. Even if he loses a little in year 2 or 3 he would have huge value as a power play, overtime and shoot out specialist. Move Holl and Petry to free up cap space.
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
Agreed!
@mikelight495
@mikelight495 Ай бұрын
I do not enjoy facing the cold reality of hockey & professional sports in general. n.h.l. players are rightfully superstitious & protective of their image. Mainly curses. like how kane has been involved in at least two violent incidents after a night of drunkenness in Buffalo. If the n.h.l. had any kind of personal conduct policy like the n.f.l. he would have been thrown out of the league years ago. h.o.f. I think not. Cursed? His teams have missed the playoffs ever since his violent attack on a starstruck teenage girl in Buffalo. He has been treated disrpectfully & not welcomed in Buffalo since. Cursed? how did the Redwings miss the playoffs by 1 point? It is not a coincidence. Coach Steve is a former great player & understands how a hockey player thinks. As far as showtime showing off a rookie does not like to be humiliated by excessive celebrations. Kane provides an opportunity for a rookie to make a name for himself. His plus minus is dreary. a multiple year contract? Keep dreaming. no more showing off for showtime.
@mikelight495
@mikelight495 Ай бұрын
As far as Buffalo he ran away with his tail between his legs after his attack on the teenage girl. She had multiple bite marks from kane biting her. The only team that will be interested in him is a celler dweller or expansion team desperate for attendance. he thinks he can pick his team again? time will tell. I really hope I am wrong for the sake of the team that gambles on him.
@mikelight495
@mikelight495 Ай бұрын
By the way kane how come your nose runs...
@mikelight495
@mikelight495 Ай бұрын
Coach Steve obviously knows something he does not talk about. coach Steve talking would make kanes value as a trade worthless.
@devinbrines
@devinbrines Ай бұрын
Game-winning goals, 2023-24: Copp: 3 // Perron: 4 // Raymond: 4 // Larkin: 5 // Kane: 7
@user-gw5wg2jf9c
@user-gw5wg2jf9c 14 күн бұрын
Fabbri hit 2 I think. Walman hit one or 2. one of the only timers all season. this team (larkin) aims for ties and asks for tie agreements before games. 27 regulation wins
@mikeb4062
@mikeb4062 Ай бұрын
BRING HIM BACK! Open the purse strings Stevie
@joancharbonneau3510
@joancharbonneau3510 Ай бұрын
Kane and Debrinket together were music to the eyes.
@theaccelerateddragon2017
@theaccelerateddragon2017 Ай бұрын
The cat worked well with Lark and Ray. It was his best start ever without 88.
@thekillers1stfan
@thekillers1stfan Ай бұрын
What were you watching? They clearly played better when separated
@richarddpetersen169
@richarddpetersen169 Ай бұрын
Im not "hockey smart" but I agree with you 100%. SHOWTIME, Im a fan. He reminds me of part of the team the wings had when they won the Stanley Cup.
@JCsflock
@JCsflock Ай бұрын
Kane is a Red wing! Where can he go and find love like he has found in Detroit. We love this guy, and we'll pay his asking price. And he's worth it...
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
I think he likes it here!
@kjm0227
@kjm0227 24 күн бұрын
Chicago
@CraZeeCanuck1
@CraZeeCanuck1 Ай бұрын
The Patrick Kane experiment as a Red Wing worked out great for both sides. He helped the team flirt with a playoff spot and Kane used the year as a benchmark on how his hip surgery went. It was a win win situation. However, from a players point of view, what does Detroit have to offer? Money mainly but probably not a cup run in the next three years. Kane will be 36 (November 2024), a three year contract will take him to 38 almost 39 years of age? No team will sign him at that age for another two years. I think Kane will want to cash in NOW. One last contract with 4-5 year term to a potential stanley cup team. A last chance at a cup with a substantial pay raise. As far as playing with Debrincat? We all know players come and go. Who says Debrincat will be here for another three years. I wouldnt want to possibly jepordize my career on a friend who may be or may not be here.. Debrincat only had one more assist than he had last year. For these reasons, I dont see Kane in a Red Wing uniform next year.
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
Debrincat is under contract he isn't going anywhere. Kane has won three Cups and a ton of awards, made his money. If he wants a spot where he can be top 6 and a fan favorite, Detroit is the place for him
@lenaforsgren
@lenaforsgren Ай бұрын
I think Buffalo ticks all those boxes and maybe at least one more, however. And I think they are willing to give him a longer term. But I’m just speculating, of course. ​@@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@kjm0227
@kjm0227 24 күн бұрын
@@HealthyScratchRedWingsReporthe had that in Chicago
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport 22 күн бұрын
@@kjm0227 I'd love to see that 'report' and where it's from
@jimjohnson9808
@jimjohnson9808 Ай бұрын
I want to see Kane back again but expect that first priority will be signing Seider and Raymond. We obviously will have to move out players like Petry and Holl. There are a few UFA's we will not resign. We look at upgrading our D next year as well as a 2nd line center. No question Buschy Stevie has a lot to do in the off season. Bring in Stamkos.
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
I think we are on the same wavelength! I'm going to mess around on CapFriendly to see if Stamkos is a realistic option!
@michaeljones436
@michaeljones436 Ай бұрын
Stamkos isn't coming to Detroit! 1) Larkin isn't losing his C. 2) Stamkos isn't going to a another team and not have the C on his jersey! 3) Detroit doesn't need him! Everyone is going to eat their words when these next few seasons the Red Wings are right where they need to be!
@progman48
@progman48 Ай бұрын
I agree!
@MichelleMcAleer
@MichelleMcAleer Ай бұрын
As a huge Blackhawks fan, LOVE this! Our Kaner - oh I mean Chelios - game... How amazing was his OT winning goal??? If you guys cannot get/keep him next year, oh we want him back here in Chicago soooooo bad - every game that Kaner helped Red Wings win, I think every Chicago fan smiled as well... hard not to! Cannot wait to watch next year!
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
Would be cool but I think that ship may have sailed!
@jacobfolkringa8676
@jacobfolkringa8676 Ай бұрын
You were 💯 in all your assignments on Kane I couldn't of said it any better We want him back unless he or Steve are being unreasonable with each other It's a no brainier with this guy's hand talent and IQ
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
We can only hope!
@tombeccaccio6344
@tombeccaccio6344 Ай бұрын
Gotta bring Showtime back. He's good for a good three years probably more. That's what this team is missing is a Federov, Yzerman, Shanahan, player you can always count on Kane can fill that position
@DefectiveSquash
@DefectiveSquash Ай бұрын
Kane with a full off-season of pain free training is going to come back a 90P guy
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
If that's the case I want him in the winged wheel!
@spencerdobkin9479
@spencerdobkin9479 Ай бұрын
Kane is so huge for this team not only on the ice but in the lockeroom. He fits so well on the team. I would like to see him get an A along with Seider and Raymond. He was scoring almost every game down the stretch. Think a deal will be worked out for a 2 or 3 year deal!
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
I hope so!
@casewojo6186
@casewojo6186 Ай бұрын
I want him bad so bad. Don’t leave me Kane. lol I know the feeling you’re talking about. That star power was back in Detroit, I don’t want it to leave again goddamnit. He looks so damn good in that jersey and I think he has a lot to do with Raymond’s offensive burst.
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
I love him in it too!
@Nichaelas
@Nichaelas Ай бұрын
I agree that Kane brings that respect on the offensive side of things and would like to see him back for that reason. But this team sorely needs more players on the defensive side of things that the other team also respects. One of the things that made Datsyuk so special and we're so lucky to have had him is players on the opposing team feared him making them look silly in all situations. He didn't even need to have the puck, just being on the ice was enough. I don't know if we'll quite get another player like that any time soon, but adding some more defensive power to round it out would be welcome. Hopefully we see Edvinsson blossom into that as well as Seider continue to grow into that top D-man role, but I think we're also going to need help on the front end from guys like Kasper and Danielson.
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
I think they can keep Kane and also improve the defence
@marks.3498
@marks.3498 Ай бұрын
If Kane wants to return then work a deal, otherwise, Wings have talent in the pipeline.
@datcrazywhiteboy6205
@datcrazywhiteboy6205 Ай бұрын
Bring him back
@RuneGetSkagg
@RuneGetSkagg Ай бұрын
100% There are obviously so much in addition to what he does on the ice that Kane brings. Raymond elevated his game after Kane came in, that's no coincidence. On top of this Kane would probably be a guy that can help the organization alot after his career too. His understanding of the game and of players is 2nd to none.
@lance2465
@lance2465 Ай бұрын
5 years at 5 million dollars is unrealistic for Kane at 35 years old. I would say 2 years at 4 millions AAV with a team option for a 3rd year would be more tolerable if Kane loses a step or two. Detroit needs to be very smart with the cap situation with Raymond and Seider still needing to be paid. They also might have to eat Justin Holl and Jeff Petry’s contracts to reshape the defense.
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
They can fit these guys in even with the Raymond and Seider contracts. I have a feeling Stevie might surprise us with those two contracts and make everything fit perfectly I would shoot Holl and Petry into space if I could lol
@lenaforsgren
@lenaforsgren Ай бұрын
I’m not ruling it out, but I think he wants a longer contract than Detroit will offer. But that’s just me speculating, of course. Most of me wants him back, because it has been so exciting. I have had the exact same feeling of “anything can happen” when he is on the ice. The one thing that kind of makes me think it’s not 100% a good idea is that I think the Cat-Larkin-Raymond line is the future and Kane’s presence might mess that up. I think Kane might want to help Buffalo reach the playoffs next year. Maybe that’s where he wants his son to grow up. They could really use someone like him on their team. I will surely keep a close eye on whichever team he joins. By the way, I have started to get the same “anything can happen” feeling when Raymond is on the ice. For good reasons! Need to get his jersey! I’m from Sweden, it makes total sense. 😁🤩
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
We really don't know what Kane or Yzerman are thinking. And yes! I agree Raymond has been a revelation this year! Hopefully he continues to grow! Thanks for watching!
@TheHockeyBarn
@TheHockeyBarn Ай бұрын
It will be interesting to see where he ends up, something is telling me he’s heading to Vegas
@marcestes40
@marcestes40 Ай бұрын
Moved to Fl in 08, and I love the young core but Kane made me watch like I used to watch Stevie Y back in the day.
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
There's a reason he's called Showtime!
@blakeattridge3596
@blakeattridge3596 Ай бұрын
I absolutely want Kane back and my thoughts were 5 million a year for 3 years as well. Perron is another I’m not against returning but he’d need to be much cheaper. I also feel Kasper would be an adequate replacement for Perron. Maybe Nate Danielson makes a good case for himself in training camp and can become that 2C and play with Kane. How many rookies do you think make the team? Edvinsson should be a lock. And Yzerman also said he expects Berggren and Johansson to be on opening night roster. Berggrens already played 79 nhl games and Edvinsson 25. Do you consider Berggren still a rookie? Would Berggren, Kasper, Danielson, Edvinsson and Johansson be too many young guys on the roster? Mazur could also make a case at camp. I don’t see 6 guys making the team that would be insane but 3-4 maybe. Berggren Danielson Kane That could be an enjoyable line but at the same time I could see Danielson starting at wing with a guy like Compher
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
The best thing about these rookies is the cheap salary so you could go after Kane again as well as a few other free agents!
@nickstalker3254
@nickstalker3254 Ай бұрын
$18M 3x$6M AAV. $6.5 at the max.
@spencerdobkin9479
@spencerdobkin9479 Ай бұрын
I think 2 or 3 years between 5.25 and 6.25M a year
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
6.5 might be a bit high with the space the Wings will have to make to keep him but I guess we will find out!
@vivid_prizm
@vivid_prizm Ай бұрын
Resign Kane 3 years 5-5.5 mil. If you can’t bring back Perron or ghost because of it, too bad. I would love to keep Perron if he exclusively played bottom 6 and on PP2 for less than 2 mil. Players to move to make space for these guys: Holl and/or one of Copp/ Compher. Id much rather keep Compher because I think he does everything Copp does but slightly better, but we cannot keep them both when they are either an elite 3C or serviceable 3C. Neither are a 2C
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
I wouldn't be heartbroken is Perron and Ghost were gone honestly. Perron would need a massive pay cut and at that point just put Kasper or Mazur in there Copp is someone I'd love to move on from but realistically i don't think they can or will
@cameronfranke8566
@cameronfranke8566 Ай бұрын
I bet money he gets an extension ,yzerman would make a big mistake letting him go with alll the chemistry and leadership he brings to this team it makes no sense for him to be gone too soon
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
I hope they get it done
@dt2phillips
@dt2phillips Ай бұрын
I agree completely.
@talex001
@talex001 Ай бұрын
If they sign Kane then they need to play him with Larkin or go get another speedy center who can chase down pucks, I don't think Kane liked playing on the second line with Compher and Perron...
@thekillers1stfan
@thekillers1stfan Ай бұрын
splitting up Larkin from Raymond was one of the biggest mistakes Lalonde made this year. Kane and Debrincat together were awful, Compher was the only center who kind of made it work because he actually can play defensively (Larkin can too obviously but for him to play defensively he has to give up what makes him an offensive force)
@davidkruse4030
@davidkruse4030 Ай бұрын
Stamkos
@buzzmessinger4510
@buzzmessinger4510 Ай бұрын
He should stay. But probably not? I like his play and skills. He also matches up well with any of the other players. My humble opinion to Yzerman is, keep the sob, he's worth it. The value is there.....IMHO, of course.
@JohnDiPonio
@JohnDiPonio Ай бұрын
We should certainly sign him. A good number is 3 year with a 4th option. Dollar amount is where the issue is.
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
If options were a thing in hockey I would do that lol
@glenbuxton8143
@glenbuxton8143 Ай бұрын
3 years is very reasonable IMO. Kane made the Wings a much better team and more enjoyable to watch. I hope Yzerman and Kane can negotiate a fair deal for both sides.
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
I think the risk vs reward is worth it. He was point per game and was clutch so many times
@davevanzanten1883
@davevanzanten1883 Ай бұрын
Yes! Sign him! They NEED his skills as a player, team mate, mentor. I don’t know what that deal looks like…3 years sounds like good compromise.
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
I hope so!
@slapshot1x
@slapshot1x Ай бұрын
Yes. Sign PK!
@WordofBob
@WordofBob Ай бұрын
Kane mentally checked out a month ago. Watch his body language change down the stretch. He was either hurt or done. He's a liability on defense and was mia during the Larkin injury month.
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
Your first line of your comment is all opinion so that's fine if you think that. But the whole team shit the bed against the Coyotes and Avalanche. Other than that in those other 7 games he had 3 goals and 5 assists and the overtime winner against the Blue Jackets. So respectfully what are you talking about?
@devinbrines
@devinbrines Ай бұрын
If people are worried, go look at the 02 Wings roster (and salaries)
@michelleleeginger5225
@michelleleeginger5225 Ай бұрын
Actually, I would be surprised if they didn't get a deal done! It was blatantly obvious how much he elevated the team offense. Btw, I saw what you did there...that was cute 😂
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
UTAH COYOTES lol
@jeremykraenzlein5975
@jeremykraenzlein5975 Ай бұрын
When do we find out what the salary cap will be for next year? Will it be before the start of free agency? The question of how much it makes sense to pay him could depend on this.
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
The rumoured number is $87.7 million which is another $5 million in space
@jeremykraenzlein5975
@jeremykraenzlein5975 Ай бұрын
@@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport I know that there are rumors as to the amount. Do we know when the actual amount will be officially reported? One would really be taking a risk to start signing players based on rumor.
@davidkruse4030
@davidkruse4030 Ай бұрын
@@jeremykraenzlein5975it’s going up to that number. Relax they know the cap
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
@@jeremykraenzlein5975 Obviously the teams would know officially before they start signing guys lol
@krob5375
@krob5375 Ай бұрын
His end of season comments were all speaking about the team in past tense. Unless the Wings throw huge $ with term at him, I doubt he stays.
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
Did you watch the whole video I address those comments and why I don't think it means much
@krob5375
@krob5375 Ай бұрын
@@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Indeed, but what you think doesn't mean much could also be exactly what it seemed. We'll know soon enough.
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
@@krob5375 People's gut feelings don't have any reason to it, what I'm saying is think about it from a different angle and you might see it how I explained it. I hope he's back
@devinbrines
@devinbrines Ай бұрын
You should do a video on the 02 Wings comparing it to the Kane situation. Look at Hull, Chelios, Hasek
@devinbrines
@devinbrines Ай бұрын
Larionov
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
Comparing what exactly
@derekhand7904
@derekhand7904 Ай бұрын
I think if they offer him a 3 year deal he will come back, i don’t see the wings bringing in another center there just not available, so it’d probably be better to bring in a top 6 winger to play with Kane and confer. Maybe trade for a Bryon rust or Pavel Buchnevich, something like that.
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
I really don't like the Rust contract but i do like Buchnevich, I thought if they were players at the deadline that he would be a guy that would fit the Wings
@elizabethgriffin5733
@elizabethgriffin5733 Ай бұрын
Give him 5..let him retire a Red Wing! He's a point let game at 35......5 is gravy!!!!
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
5 is a risk but if it takes less than $5 million I would consider it
@jamesruscheinski8602
@jamesruscheinski8602 Ай бұрын
keep it going, Kane
@jeffv7046
@jeffv7046 Ай бұрын
2 yrs at 5 million or 3 yrs at 4 million.
@schleep1219
@schleep1219 Ай бұрын
Not sure it matters. Need defense and the offense was good before he signed
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
You can have both it isn't one of the other
@devinbrines
@devinbrines Ай бұрын
Wings need to be bold right here.
@devinbrines
@devinbrines Ай бұрын
Just give him 3 and use it as an asset to attract more talent -- get a better coach too. Use the coach as leverage to keep Kane. LaLonde is mid
@Vagabor123
@Vagabor123 Ай бұрын
He's leaving. Just listen to the way he was speaking at his end of year conference
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
Did you watch this video lol I address why I don't think that his comments really meant anything
@devinbrines
@devinbrines Ай бұрын
Hire Fedorov, keep Kane, drop some shitty contracts, get some dope defense, make the playoffs. Let's go
@jamesruscheinski8602
@jamesruscheinski8602 Ай бұрын
build team defense?
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
they will need to address that for sure as well
@vaughtjr
@vaughtjr Ай бұрын
Resign Kane and bring in Stamkos!
@tomharper8351
@tomharper8351 Ай бұрын
I almost dropped my drink when you mentioned the Datsyuk comparison! Exactly what I was thinking!
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
In terms of getting you out of your seat absolutely! And the respect from defenders. The defence side of the game? Absolutely not lol
@ICanRideMiBikeWithNoHandleBars
@ICanRideMiBikeWithNoHandleBars Ай бұрын
Wings haven’t had a FA player on the team like Kane since Hossa. Hossa made the core forwards (Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen) better, simply by creating space for the other players on his line. Kane does the same thing. Yes, he’s 35, but he still has hands that can dish and score, and his mind hasn’t gotten slower - he still thinks the game at a high pace. If he isn’t offered 3 years or more at 5m+, he walks. Holl was a horrible signing - Toronto was right to ride him so hard. Petry needs to go as well. Chiarot was a stopgap, but his time is done as well. Keep Gostisbehere as an offensive defenseman. Walman and Sieder as 1D, 2D/3D. And for goodness sakes, keep Michael Rasmussen healthy all season. He’s a heart and soul guy like Draper - not the most skilled, but doesn’t give up on a shift. #LGRW
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
I agree with almost everything, although I've never heard a Ras-Draper comparison before
@ICanRideMiBikeWithNoHandleBars
@ICanRideMiBikeWithNoHandleBars Ай бұрын
@@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport IMO, the team plays different when he’s in the lineup. He adds something that no one else does. I’m not a Ras fan boy by any means. I’ve noticed this over the past 2 seasons.
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
@@ICanRideMiBikeWithNoHandleBars he brings that edge when he wants to!
@s.baldrick870
@s.baldrick870 Ай бұрын
6M x 2
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
Probably what they will have to give him to only do 2 years
@PeterDixon734
@PeterDixon734 Ай бұрын
he's gone. DET cannot afford him with contracts like Petry's affecting what they're able to do
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
They can make the room with some moves and the cap is going up as well
@PeterDixon734
@PeterDixon734 Ай бұрын
@@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport I'd love to see the man back in the wheel wing uniform. But realistically, how much is Yzerman gonna have to give up JUST to shed Petry's contract? Remember, 23 and 53 needs contracts too.
@pizza603
@pizza603 Ай бұрын
3 x 3 For Kaner
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
I don't think that's enough. A 500k raise for what he did this year won't be worth it for him
@pizza603
@pizza603 Ай бұрын
@@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport He said in his presser he wants term, and he's already made a truckload of money. Maybe add on performance bonuses, win/win
@thekillers1stfan
@thekillers1stfan Ай бұрын
I'd prefer not to see him. I know people see him as some sort of a savior to the season but that just isn't the case. The wings were doing better before he came actually. And yes, I know his point per game numbers were good but you also have to factor in how that affected the rest of the roster. It's no coincidence that Debrincat's points tanked after the acquisition and Raymond even had a sputtering because Lalonde had to fuck with the lines to see how Kane could fit considering you have to insulate a player like him with guys who can actually defend and retrieve the puck on the boards. He's going to ask for a lot of money and 3-4 years and when I think about where the team will be in three years, we should be contending, when I think about where Kane will be in 3 years, he will be deteriorating. His timeline just doesn't match up with the team's timeline. Right now it's easy to say "Pay the man! We have cap space" but that cap space doesn't last if you aren't smart with it. We need to (and will) resign Raymond and Seider. Soon enough we're also going to have our other youngsters looking for extension and it would be wise not to fuck that up because we wanted a one dimensional goal scorer on the back half of his career. Another thing that people aren't seeing is who else might be available... Stamkos is coming to an end in Tampa and Marchessault is likely going to be forced out of Vegas. I would take either of them over Kane in a heartbeat. To me, this best case scenario where he actually plays 3 full years, fully healthy, with only a small amount of decline just isn't realistic.He played half of the year where he barely got hit and was honestly a defensive liability for his 5v5 time on ice. The likeliehood that such a contract fucks us over is way higher than it paying off. He was worth the chance this year and did what he was supposed to do, that doesn't mean he's a good investment long term.
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
I really don't see a big correlation of Kane showing up and DeBrincat tanking, I think ADB started out insanely hot and regressed back to the mean HARD lol I would want Kane over Stamkos and Marchessault and that's just a personal preference for me (I love Stammer!) For you last point I guarantee that contract wouldn't fuck us, contracts like Copp/Chiarot/Holl will where a guy is getting paid way more than his output I like that you have these opinions though! Definitely a different outlook I appreciate it!
@davidkruse4030
@davidkruse4030 Ай бұрын
This. I was saying this right after they signed him. He doesn’t fit lablodnes system of defense first.
@randyjozwiak2923
@randyjozwiak2923 Ай бұрын
Kaner go back to the Blackhawks
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
I think there's less than 0% chance that happens. That ship has sailed they're in a rebuild
@mickeypac6087
@mickeypac6087 Ай бұрын
Hopefully gone! He is and will not participate in the team defense required to win long term. He did have timely goals this year for the wings, however his total lack of defense and absolute unwillingness to battle anyone for the puck will not help the overall push to make the playoffs. Even Yzerman states in his year end address that that forwards need to participate more in the defense
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
Not sure how many times I need to say this, he is NOT here for defence. It's offence, 5 on 5 and powerplay. You can look at the whole team and see how bad pretty much everyone was defensively at points. Guy was a point per game player and made a huge difference. I'm not sure what more you could want
@mickeypac6087
@mickeypac6087 Ай бұрын
@@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Not sure how many times I need to say either, cups are won on team defense. It’s has been this way over decades, over several playing era’s. Unfortunately there is no room for offense only players, it creates to much opportunity for the opponent in your zone. I would suggest you really start your analysis with yzerman under Bowman
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
@@mickeypac6087 Every team has players that are offensive weapons and that's it, Cup champs too. Go look at the winners the last ten years you'll find a few on every team
@BranNew1
@BranNew1 Ай бұрын
I’d leave if I were him, Kane doesn’t want to play Dump and Chase hockey. this roster sucks, and can only play that type of game.. I doubt Kane wants to play with losers like Andrew Copp, Czarnik, Holl, Petry, Fabbri, Veleno, Rasmussen, and Perron. Thanks for playing as a Wing for a bit Patrick. That was great.
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
Damn that was cut throat lol I think he likes playing with guys like Larkin, Debrincat, Raymond, Seider, Walman, Compher. Depends how you want to look at it
@stevenlitkey9354
@stevenlitkey9354 Ай бұрын
LEAVING 😢
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
Why do you think that lol
@stevenlitkey9354
@stevenlitkey9354 Ай бұрын
@@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport I drink & I know things 😎
@MPDLR
@MPDLR Ай бұрын
I don't like the posturing and the nonchalant "it WAS nice" but ok, negotiating ploy I guess. And if possible I'd love to have him back BUT -- if there's whining about " I wanna play with Alex" then - no. They don't decide lines and FWIW--how many goals did Alex have before Kane, and how many after.....
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
When did he whine about not playing with DeBrincat? Sounds like conjecture. They're still on the same team
@MPDLR
@MPDLR Ай бұрын
@@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport You are correct - he didn't say that. I said "IF" there's whining which is different than saying there is.
@davidlaffin5747
@davidlaffin5747 Ай бұрын
Yzerman took on too many bad contracts to resign, Kane!
@spencerdobkin9479
@spencerdobkin9479 Ай бұрын
Need to move on from Petry and Holl.
@davidlaffin5747
@davidlaffin5747 Ай бұрын
@spencerdobkin9479 not that simple!
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
Pretty simple to buy out Holl and create room. Guys like Fabbri making $4 million could be moved to a bottom feeder, so there are ways of creating space
@MolotovMan1263
@MolotovMan1263 Ай бұрын
Copp at 5M+ is insane as well
@davidlaffin5747
@davidlaffin5747 Ай бұрын
@@MolotovMan1263 it was interesting to hear Yzerman talking about the cap being an issue this coming year. I don't think he expected Raymond to play so well down the stretch and increase his value.
@ColdToiletSeats
@ColdToiletSeats Ай бұрын
I got the dam jersey lol
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport
@HealthyScratchRedWingsReport Ай бұрын
its a great jersey lol
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