Is Purdue Basketball Struggling or Thriving?
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Ай бұрынWe talk about Purdue basketball recruiting and why Purdue has not got any transfer portal players with Matt Painter and his philosophy and if Braden Smith basketball will be enough to contend nationally in 2024-25.
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@Matt-fb5xe 29 күн бұрын
To even ask "Is Purdue basketball struggling" is just bait.
@brandonskalsky5484 29 күн бұрын
I'd rather be "bored" during the off-season and continue to win at the level Painter has the last 5 years than constantly be worried about portal drama. What a completely idiotic take
@CasualBigTen 29 күн бұрын
Didn't I say if I worked for the team, I would build it this way too? I agree with the strategy but as an outsider it's boring. Transfers are fun, I stand by it.
@JTH-hm8ew 28 күн бұрын
Thank goodness that I cheer for ELITE UNC and not historical mediocre Purdue.
@Bakers924 12 күн бұрын
“What if Woodson used the talent the right way.” So true and so funny.
@33jlong 28 күн бұрын
For any big ten player who shot 3 or more threes per game, Loyer was second in percentage behind Gillis. Heide was number 1 in eFG for power conference freshmen and Colvin was 10th. We’re gonna be ok
@DaveWill-yg9wp 23 күн бұрын
like most people these guys don't understand Painter and how he builds a program. If 3 or even 4 of these freshmen RS; there is plenty of talent to compete with anyone. And next year when most programs are hoping find the "right" guy in the portal he will once again have talented, Purdue experienced guys who have had a year to learn, understand and execute the o and d systems. They will hit the floor running the following year not learning the basics. Berg at 5 (he's has 2 years to learn from Edey); TKR at 4; Heide at 3; Loyer 2 and Smith 1, with Furst at back up to 4 or 5; With Colvin back uo at 2 or 3. With Catchings at Back up at 3 or 4. With Harris as Smith's understudy at 1. Painter values players with Purdue mentality and great teammate mentality and experience in the Purdue system over shear talent. The following year there will not be any portal guys either.
@ryanvannice7878 12 күн бұрын
As one on the panel said, this coming year is an outlier year. At Purdue nowadays, the target for each incoming class should be 2, maybe 3 freshmen and 1 or 2 transfers. And I'd lean toward filling early exits with transfers. Painter's recruiting philosophy might be counterculture enough that it's successful.
@Purdue7 29 күн бұрын
MP doesn’t portal over his guys… JI broke out so a PG was needed two years in a row In 20-30 years who is better off? I’m guessing Purdue degree 📜 over 2-3 portals
@Ajas0810 29 күн бұрын
If heide and Colvin improve then they can be really good. Both are really athletic and can shoot. TKR is gonna be a focal point now too. Purdue will be more balanced than the years past.
@mshirar 5 күн бұрын
I definitely get why portal signings are flashy but just like big free agent signings in the pros they don’t always work out. With TKR, smith, loyer, catchings, heide and Colvin it would be interesting to see what transfers would have wanted to come to Purdue. Especially with a more limited nil bankroll.
@timothyeaton5198 18 күн бұрын
Heide will be the kid that will have a breakout yr.
@kyleray5497 28 күн бұрын
JR saying Freshman not making a super big impact...Painter started Smith and Loyer their freshman year..Paint's gonna do it again and everyone is going to be stunned when it works...in Paint we Trust.. also you can't just bring in any player..they have to fit the team...Watch IU this year, I'd bet they are gonna have internal issues that will more than likely affect their on court play with all of these transfers
@GlasserFamily-ck2yw 29 күн бұрын
Good conversation. Kent and JR are talking checkers, and Painter is playing 3D chess.
@JTH-hm8ew 28 күн бұрын
44 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
@schlichter11 29 күн бұрын
Purdue doesn’t have casual basketball fans
@JTH-hm8ew 28 күн бұрын
The reason being is that casual fans do not tend to cheer for historical mediocre programs.
@ryanvannice7878 12 күн бұрын
Outside of a 30 mile radius (maybe even 10 or 20) of W Lafayette, the easy road is to be an IU fan. So, yeah, you don't just fall into being a Purdue fan.
@douglashackney2961 29 күн бұрын
Jones is the only transfer to work out well for Purdue in years. Freshmen like Smith, Loyer, Swanigan, Edwards, Hummel, Moore and others have.
@knick5032 11 күн бұрын
Do people forget most teams only play 5 - 8 players? Purdue will be fine without transfers.
@Bakers924 12 күн бұрын
Painter wins. That’s why we trust in this team.
@DaChicagoFan4 29 күн бұрын
In the last 10 years, Purdue has finished top 3 in the Big Ten, including 4 Big Ten Titles (and 1 of those 2 years not in the top 3, was a 4th place finish). This is possibly the dumbest podcast topic I have heard in a while. Also, I'm glad Russ commented on everyone overreacting to Gillis and Morton leaving. There is no room for them to stay, plus they both went thru the Senior Day Ceremony. While it may not have been clearly know that they were going to play out their Covid year, we all knew they weren't playing for Purdue next season. Also, typically for a team to make a consistent impact in the transfer portal, they need consistently lose player (i.e. Illinois). Purdue has always been about 4 year players (not those that will be one in done continue to change teams every year).
@jwfriar 28 күн бұрын
I think a bit of a misunderstanding of the team building strategy for Purdue here by JR and Kent. Ultimate honesty in recruiting is our strategy and we have to stick with it. We cannot tell a guy we’ll bring him in and develop him if he just saw us recruit over the last 2 guys. We get good guys early and hold them bc of our reputation. We’re not sacrificing long term strategy for a possible short term gain of adding a transfer. Also, in case you haven’t noticed, Purdue doesn’t just pay for transfers. We pay guys in our system. We wouldn’t get any big names anyway. Who’s the last big transfer we got?? Answer is nobody. We aren’t here to hang offseason banners. We’re gonna compete for the B1G next season and the natty the year after. That’s the goal.
@CasualBigTen 25 күн бұрын
The last big transfer for Lance Jones. And I clearly said there isn’t anything wrong with how Purdue is doing it, I would want to do it the same way. I just think transfers are fun.
@jwfriar 25 күн бұрын
@@CasualBigTen Lance wasn't a big transfer, he wasn't on any lists. If we got the same type of guy this year, it wouldn't be "fun" to anyone. Lance ended up being good b/c Paint got what he needed and he filled a role very well. The system and his hard work made him more successful than a bigger name would have been in that spot. I think the issue is people think that not adding transfers is somehow suggesting we're losing or doing it wrong and I think that's what you were saying. Maybe some teams need them, but we don't operate that way. I think it's important to understand our strategy of not recruiting over guys and then maybe it would make more sense why we don't take them. We have to stay honest and we can't do that if we're taking transfers just to win offseason headlines.
@SanDiegoBoilermakers 6 күн бұрын
…and as Painter said, Lance didn’t bring up NIL once in his recruitment. He just wanted to win. No one looked at him as a huge transfer, but Paint looked at his as a great Purdue fit.
@jwfriar 6 күн бұрын
@@SanDiegoBoilermakers and Lance got massive exposure and is now working out for the Pacers. Massive win/win
@user-jy3bd7gc5t 12 күн бұрын
Excellent podcast guys. Don't pay attention to the haters!
@tkamel18 6 күн бұрын
6:10 top 10 recruiting class if you don’t consider transfers. This Purdue class is ranked 22 overall when factoring in transfers as part of the incoming classes (which is reality). My source is 247. This team is too young to do shit next season. Hopefully they realize it’s a rebuilding year and stay together for 2025/2026
@ryankazmierczak1335 25 күн бұрын
This is a serious question about a national finalist because they don’t play the BS musical chairs game to fill their entire team??? Besides they tried that with Nigel Pack and he went to Miami to get $800k. Purdue doesn’t have that kind of money to throw at guys. Maybe eventually with the NIL program building.
@brandonskalsky5484 29 күн бұрын
Painter is playing the long game. The COVID being over is going to drop things back down to more even level because teams can't as easily load up on all these old guys. The NIL bidding war probably isn't sustainable and realistically some of the higher rated recruits are going to be up for grabs with higher level programs opting for transfers
@schlichter11 29 күн бұрын
It’s a good point that the west coast teams are watering down the league in basketball but it’s the opposite in football. Those 4 teams are going to have 3 of the last 6 spots at the end of the hoop season.
@TheBigTimeBoiler 29 күн бұрын
As a Purdue fan I really do wish we had an open scholarship for a transfer.... We have a ton of momentum and I hope it doesn't bite Us in the butt
@JTH-hm8ew 28 күн бұрын
Losing in a lopsided manner in the national title game is not momentum lol.
@mshirar 5 күн бұрын
I’m good with no transfer pickups. This class has some talent but most probably won’t play a ton this year. I like the lineup with majority of minutes going to TKR. Smith. Loyer. Colvin. Heide. And catchings.
@brandonskalsky5484 29 күн бұрын
Also, this is an anomaly. Painter usually has a schollie available each year just in case he needs to bring in a guy. But it's unlikely that we ever take multiple transfers
@tkamel18 6 күн бұрын
With Edey gone I think Purdue will struggle to make the big dance next year. I’m a die hard Purdue fan and have been watching since Painter took over. Now if they all stay together for 2 more years this team can win it all in Indy in 2026. Next year will be a rebuilding year even though we have a lot returning. Very young team incoming.
@mshirar 5 күн бұрын
You never know what will happen But I’d be completely shocked if they don’t make the tournament next year.
@curtcorrell268 26 күн бұрын
They tried that with Nigel Pack, and Miami overpaid for him.
@Purdue7 29 күн бұрын
Graduating 4-5 year guys is bad?
@calfrye5343 24 күн бұрын
Why is Loyer starting? Furst & Wren in the front court. Heidi & Colvin at 3 & 2 & Smith at point would be legit. Loyer can’t play against high level athletes for long stretches. He should be coming off the bench.
@CavalierConnectionpodcast 29 күн бұрын
Great show guys!
@Matt-fb5xe 29 күн бұрын
Ohio State guy clearly not following because he talking about Catchings as a "secondary ball handler". CLEARLY doesn't know who the players are.
@brockstepler3956 29 күн бұрын
Russ is cookin! Boiler up
@JTH-hm8ew 28 күн бұрын
A mediocre slogan for an historical mediocre program.
@BoilerBall3094 28 күн бұрын
Purdue is always winning...just keep up
@JTH-hm8ew 28 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 44 years between Final Fours is not always winning. That is historical mediocrity. Was your post supposed to be a parody? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@JTH-hm8ew 25 күн бұрын
44 straight years before reaching another Final Four!
@tkamel18 6 күн бұрын
8:59 he made the final 4 for one reason and one reason only. Zach Edey. That generational monster is gone now and Smith and Loyer are very average without him at the 5
@mshirar 5 күн бұрын
We shall see how good they will be without edey. I’m excited to see.
@tkamel18 4 күн бұрын
@@mshirar I hope I’m wrong but I think we are overrated big time so far coming into next year. Edey can turn an average PG into a star PG and got open looks for shooters like Loyer. Look what happened when UConn wisely elected to let Edey cook. Our guards were exposed. Next season will be like that IMO unless another big steps up big time. And I don’t think TKR is the answer.
@mshirar 4 күн бұрын
@@tkamel18 well I doubt they will be playing UConn 23/24 caliber teams very often. UConn would have exposed every single top team in March and April. Highest ranked kenpom team the last decade I believe. Sure edey definitely had an effect but we shall see. I’d be shocked if smith reverts to just an average pg.
@tkamel18 4 күн бұрын
@@mshirar I hear ya…but the UConn game did expose our guards big time. I thought Bama gave them a much more competitive game than we did. And I didn’t think our score was indicative of how competitive it was (seemed more like a 20 pt loss) and the same for Bama’s score (it was much closer than 14 pts for Bama). Then again we beat Bama in November but it was with Edey. I hope I’m wrong but Edey is a huge loss for this team until the underclassmen grow up and hopefully come back for 2025/26
@mshirar Күн бұрын
@@tkamel18 definitely an adjustment playing without edey. TKR is still a formidable post guy. Won’t draw the doubles edey did but that might not be a bad thing either. Hoping he can increase his FT percentage a bit.
@BoilerBall3094 25 күн бұрын
unsubscribe...Is the Huddle Struggling?
@TheCollegeHuddlePodcast 25 күн бұрын
Because we asked the question if Purdue should've taken more transfers? lol stop being soft. No, we're doing great. Growing and expanding.
@JTH-hm8ew 25 күн бұрын
Maybe if Purdue was an elite program like UNC is they would get more respect from college basketball fandom.
@BoilerBall3094 25 күн бұрын
@@JTH-hm8ew 🦀
@JTH-hm8ew 25 күн бұрын
Elite UNC NCAA record 21 Final Fours; Historical mediocre Purdue 44 years between Final Fours.
@JTH-hm8ew 25 күн бұрын
Purdue struggled to make a Final Four for 44 straight years!
@JTH-hm8ew 28 күн бұрын
Purdue fans, everyone knows that without Edey that Purdue would have been a first round exit or second round exit at best. Purdue basketball is historically mediocre reference the 44 straight years of no Final Fours. Purdue basketball is just a little less boring in playing style than Virginia is. Purdue is just the latest flavor of the month program lol.
@kingmonkey3654 26 күн бұрын
Bait used to be believable 😔
@shradur2218 25 күн бұрын
Friends, we have another classic tale of the pitiful UNC fan crying for help in a Purdue discussion thread. He's been spewing demented and unprompted shade for a plucky basketball program so mediocre they just went to the national title game. Somebody please grab him and tell him it's not his fault 30 times in a row as he sobs in your arms 😢
@JTH-hm8ew 25 күн бұрын
A program so mediocre that it took 44 years to even get back to the Final Four. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@JTH-hm8ew 25 күн бұрын
44
@mshirar 5 күн бұрын
@@shradur2218He’s trolling so hard in multiple Purdue videos. 😂😂😂. We got it. You root for a successful blue blood. Congrats.
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