Is Scintillation The NEW Linear Fusion Rifle DPS King? (Linear Fusion Rifle DPS Testing)

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In today’s video we go over all types of Linear Fusion Rifle and rigorously test them VS The Templar to see which one is the new king of both DPS and total damage!
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This week the brand new Strand 3-Burst Linear “Scintillation” came out with the GM Nightfall, and with the perks it can get I was very keen to do some number crunching to see if it was any good compared to the rest of the Linear roster. Because it’s the first 3-Burst to get Bait & Switch it actually ends being the best for both DPS and total damage (discounting Euphony, lol) which actually makes me very pleased! Linears haven’t always been great, but they are pretty good for long-ranged total damage, which Scintillation is now the best at. As I eluded just now I did also test the full Exotic Linear catalogue, and to no one’s surprise Euphony is absolutely cracked, the total damage when starting from zero is STILL higher than Scintillation and that’s for a SPECIAL AMMO linear, bonkers! The Queenbreaker also surprised me with it having more total damage than Sleeper Simulant now because of a recent buff that gave it 3 more reserve ammo and an overall 12% damage buff, thought of course it’s still largely a bit of a meme pick, but interesting nonetheless. If you don’t have access to any meta heavy options I’d definitely say Linears are a very safe pick for fights like The Witness or Oryx so definitely don’t disregard their potency, they’re just more a middling option slash stepping stone for when players are improving at doing damage. Anyway, please enjoy the breakdown!
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Edited by Jude/heretomars!
0:00 - 0:19 Intro
0:19 - 0:45 Scintillation
0:45 - 1:19 Doomed Petitioner
1:19 - 1:52 Cataclysmic
1:52 - 2:22 Taipan
2:22 - 2:53 Stormchaser
2:53 - 3:31 Fire & Forget
3:31 - 4:11 Euphony
4:11 - 4:36 Arbalest
4:36 - 5:09 Lorentz Driver
5:09 - 5:36 Sleeper Simulant
5:36 - 6:47 The Queenbreaker
6:47 - 7:14 DON'T USE ADEPT MAG
7:14 - 9:07 Total Damage Highlights
9:07 - 9:58 Outro

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@photon2408 2 күн бұрын

It might be a king, but this king reigns over mid

@life-destiny1196 2 күн бұрын

Yeah, I like a lot of Llama's content but to be completely honest I'm not sure what the point is here. Wow, the BnS roll does slightly more damage than the Firing Line rolls? It does almost the same as the Precision Instrument burst LFR? Truly stunning. I guess Queenbreaker is good to see since that gun's been ignored for years, though. Just, on the whole, LFRs serve no purpose right now, aside from Euphony being one of the better special ammo damage options in the game. Less DPS than basically any other category of heavy, less efficient for other purposes than machine guns due to the damage being contained in fewer shots, and while Cataclysmic does have pretty impressive total damage its DPS is so far behind burst linears (which are in turn far behind the real top options) that it's hard to justify. This on top of losing even more damage because somebody's probably running Divinity because some bosses are hard to crit. I do not know how to solve this problem, however, because the justification for the original linear nerf is still correct: they were far too easy to use during TWQ, which meant it was hard to justify learning other things. "Oh why learn rockets you'll just blow yourself up" still makes me mad to this day (and I hear it to this day!)

@kin-3877 2 күн бұрын

@@life-destiny1196the point is to have hard numbers to point at. Just *knowing* isn't useful for people who aren't in tune with metas

@Shadowslayer-fx1gz 2 күн бұрын

@@life-destiny1196linears are pretty close to rockets actually they feel way stronger then they did a couple seasons ago.

@JPOG7TV 2 күн бұрын

The fact that thunder lord kept up while this guys whole channel is memeing it says a lot about this new gun

@rickiboulter3053 2 күн бұрын

Don't get it then. Also don't cry when they buff LFR's and you didn't get it

@ForeverLaxx 2 күн бұрын

The real takeaway from this is that many Linears are "close enough" to each other to not fret too much over it. No one is doing bleeding edge content that requires 100% optimal DPS outside of Contest modes, and even in those, that's not necessary either and is only used as a buffer when figuring out mechanics takes too much of the DPS window.

@Sorastae 2 күн бұрын

Translation: "Someone else, most likely a Hunter, will do the heavy lifting anyway so I do not want to bother optimizing. I want to be lazy and get carried through boss fights."

@josh___something 2 күн бұрын

@@Sorastae Brother, you really out here assuming some wack ass stuff huh? The fact that the question being asked was already "Does any LFR outperform any other LFR damage wise" means we're in splitting hairs territory when the numbers come out like this. If you wanna jack off to your Celestial Nighthawk/Still hunt golden gun numbers, go off. But if you really think optimizing matters more than, I don't know, loot for completing on multiple characters (aka, the whole point of running a raid more than once a week), you might just want to log off for a bit.

@ForeverLaxx 2 күн бұрын

@@Sorastae Thanks for the Strawman; I needed another one for the fields.

@zacinnc78 2 күн бұрын

Hahahahhahahahahahha@@Sorastae

@billyli5477 2 күн бұрын

@@Sorastae cmon man

@jenarickman9215 2 күн бұрын

Honestly the fact euphony does that much total without any sort of priming is really surprising to me. I am glad I got it on my first clear and it wasnt even contest mode

@ianmills6260 2 күн бұрын

I got 2 on my first clear lol. Guaranteed one from contest and then I got lucky. Annoyed because the last time I got a raid exotic 1st run was last wish

@fletcherbarry2953 2 күн бұрын

Euphony does need priming tho, for the damage that was obtained, Llama need Spindle x25 which means he needed 25 threadling hits on enemies before damage started

@Kizzster 2 күн бұрын

9th run here no exotic

@ChekhovsGun_ 2 күн бұрын

@@fletcherbarry2953 not sure if he did anything though, grapple melee, and full super implies he just shot it and stacked it up that way.

@rastaraptor6619 2 күн бұрын

@@fletcherbarry2953 the Euphony clip just showed dps towards the end of the clip, so stacks will have been building beforehand

@pain.1901 2 күн бұрын

If anyone remembers the disappointment that was the wild style double fire nightfall breech GL, it now gets reconstruction and bait / vorpal as of this episode. Undercurrent also now gets proximity and disorienting grenades

@bradlynn1 2 күн бұрын

100%, just pulled a reconstruction/vorpal roll that was carrying my teams in the GM boss room

@chrisbarnesbarnes8332 2 күн бұрын

Did I just hear that right? A wave frame GL with disorienting grenades

@ZetzMemp Күн бұрын

@@chrisbarnesbarnes8332 Yeah, but the wave has to hit them directly. It doesn’t feel as good as a normal gl with it.

@astralhorizon1938 Сағат бұрын

@@chrisbarnesbarnes8332 yesterday's update literally just removed them because it was a bug 💀

@fuuwad 2 күн бұрын

Tbh all this taught me was that my crafted doomed petitioner is good enough, no need to farn for scintillation (at least for me)

@maximilianzhan8375 2 күн бұрын

You forgot about surges my friend

@snipey8623 2 күн бұрын

@@maximilianzhan8375 surges for only gms that matter

@aslayerrrr 2 күн бұрын

@@maximilianzhan8375that they’re gone..?

@HaloEchoe419 2 күн бұрын

@@aslayerrrr In raids and dungeons. They're very much still a thing in GMs.

@Narfwak 2 күн бұрын

@@aslayerrrr master raids

@douglaswalker7707 2 күн бұрын

doomed partioner only takes one more shot to get precision instrument to full stacks, it used grant 3 stacks per burst, it is now 2 stacks per burst which is extremely good still, but if been hearing people spread miss info that it was gutted to one stack per burst, which isnt true

@Arteps1 2 күн бұрын

Stormchaser surprised me the most, despite not having a mag increasing or auto loading perk, it's able to hang on with the newer LFR's.

@looksnormal 2 күн бұрын

it does have alh, unless you mean in this test specifically

@gothiclb 2 күн бұрын

I was not expecting Queenbreaker to be that good

@Winger2020 2 күн бұрын

Thanks for testing Llama. I appreciate these videos a lot.

@JusAFarmer 2 күн бұрын

Thunderlord made a feature 😱❤️

@thiccnick277 2 күн бұрын

I got Scintillation randomly with rewind and bait. I’m new coming back for TFS and I’m glad I didn’t dismantle when I got it lol. Still grinding for that thunder lord catalyst tho

@thatguyyouhate3743 2 күн бұрын

What mag does it have? Cause if you also got enhanced mag then that’s a goated roll

@MrKingsMedia 2 күн бұрын

I feel like this was the point of surges in raids and dungeons. Make mini metas that could have you change your normal loadout every week.

@LlamaD2 2 күн бұрын

I do get that, it's a tricky toss up really, because on the one hand like you say it does promote build variety but it's a double edged sword because it can become fairly restricting and not fun/boring. Arc and Stasis week really highlighted this issue since there are basically no good Arc/Stasis options outside of a few like Acrius, plus the fact that Surges heavily impact the Speedrunning/Lowmanning community (I know this is like 1% of the playerbase but it's still valid IMO) What we have now is how it should be, though I wouldn't be opposed to a separate "Labs" mode where they add say weapon Overcharges for example, could be fun!

@JustAJauneArc Күн бұрын

@@LlamaD2 Agreed, they can just HAVE both options.

@6ixgoat746 2 күн бұрын

Queenbreaker’s bow really surprised me

@Average-Rust-Player Күн бұрын

Makes me feel good, I got envious/rewind + bait and switch to match my envious/cascade + bait and switch shiny edge transit

@flux179 2 күн бұрын

for anyone interested: ANTIBARRIER BREAKING DETAIN IS A COPE i just got damage numbers on the bubble with a fusion once for some reason, couldn't repeat since

@bass-t5998 Күн бұрын

Maybe you had volatile or untangling rounds, that can break barriers too

@PineappleZach666 Күн бұрын

For Bait n switch you can proc the two other weapons early. you have like 5 seconds to shoot your other guns so shoot them at the others enemies first then shoot the boss with the linear. However that would only save a few moments of time and probably wouldn't change much.

@TinyTorgue Күн бұрын

Did you test the amount of reserves Scintillation gets any further? I keep seeing different things being said about magazine perks affecting the reserves in addition to the Backup Mag stuff but nothing seems definitive

@Based_Shogun Күн бұрын

Niche, but great option for sustained precision damage. 7:03 oh no way! Great info

@cur1ous238 2 күн бұрын

It would be great if you could compare microcosm to the LFRs as easy damage options for witness (for warlocks and titans).

@faridronin 2 күн бұрын

Yeah haven't seen anyone do precise dmg testing with microcosm.

@Djoki1 2 күн бұрын

The first engram i decrypted this week for this LFR got me enhanced battery, rewind rounds and firing line. Needless to say that my serious grind has ended. I can go back to farming wardens law.

@sycoki11r13 2 күн бұрын

idk if im doing the math wrong but i swear the dmg used to activate bait and switch was not subtracted from Scintillation so queenbreaker would end up doing more dmg obv not accounting for total dmg, def the best legendary linear tho

@celsonjunior9376 2 күн бұрын

bros slowly becoming more and more accurate w final damage, the euphony having the most numbers and being on dot is crazy

@richardcarson3596 2 күн бұрын

This just means the actual dps godroll of cornered/surrounded would be amazing for Scintillation.

@Dargon1o1 2 күн бұрын

Honestly I’m just glad Queen Breaker is on the board even though it’s still not a top tier option lol

@Hunt3r001 Күн бұрын

Ehh I feel like it’s definitely a sleeper pick since it has intrinsic unstoppable and has a ton of total damage

@-Benja 2 күн бұрын

Yeahhh lets go llama uploaded

@CNSpadesK 2 күн бұрын

恭喜你4万订阅了！

@griqs 2 күн бұрын

This makes me wonder what lends itself to better dps rotations/swaps and or what gots through ammo faster since the dps/dmg is about the same for most . Gotta find something to set th apart

@phillyswift9843 2 күн бұрын

What about the fragment that reloads your gun on a freeze proc? Wouldn’t that make fire and forget to more dps?

@kcisthe1st Күн бұрын

Glad i been farming this one got all the best rolls

@weichi_ 2 күн бұрын

i farmed a shit ton of rolls for this. i hope its good

@EmperorSig 2 күн бұрын

Llama uploads are best uploads

@SAZABI_exe 2 күн бұрын

*Aztecross

@destiny2gambitenjoyer990 2 күн бұрын

METAHHHHH@@SAZABI_exe

@kingdeophole6252 2 күн бұрын

L vid

@larrywoolfolk8224 Күн бұрын

Would this be good to use pair with Euphony seeing as you're going to want to dump the Euphony with max stacks for the Strand Warlock build for even max total damage with a BnS Scintillation?

@waywardjoker6061 Күн бұрын

The damage numbers for sleeper are fairly good here, but as someone with 10 years of raiding experience when you add in other weapons alongside the legendary linears they FAR exceed sleeper

@exactocrafter9887 2 күн бұрын

Bro. I understand using bait and switch for it. But if you're okay with a situational roll, enhanced cornered, and enhanced surrounded would make this thing the goat for sure

@LlamaD2 2 күн бұрын

Yeah should be cracked on Ir Yut

@38mb. 2 күн бұрын

im suprised by how well queenbreaker did but that visual recoil kills it for me

@user-vg6bv3fp9y Күн бұрын

the thing is any situation where u would use a linear you would just use whisper or sleeper

@connorandrews Күн бұрын

Yeah like raids and dungeon’s sleeper and whisper are still gonna reign supreme.

@GinjaLeviathan Күн бұрын

I want to know about envious+burst, it's my fav roll I just want to know how it stacks up against the Rewind+Bait

@mightyg1820 2 күн бұрын

I have a roll with rewind and BnS and another with Rewind and firing line and was hoping this was gonna show both rolls.

@LlamaD2 2 күн бұрын

Well the Firing Line one would behave almost identically to Stormchaser but just slightly better DPS

@zesshi9821 Күн бұрын

Imo you should have tested Surrounded Briars and Scintillation aswell

@LlamaD2 Күн бұрын

I did think about it but outside of Ir Yut Surrounded is so situational on a linear.

@wab_ 2 күн бұрын

I would like to see the dps over the whole mag

@bjcooper4365 Күн бұрын

9:20 what shader did you put on your Scintillation

@derpihm 2 күн бұрын

MORE LLAMA CONTENT

@taylorpierson8355 Күн бұрын

Rewind bait is what I have with liquid coils

@shadrachcrawford5979 Күн бұрын

I love mine with envious and bait n switch

@lucasa4955 2 күн бұрын

So. Do not add ANY backup mag mods? Or can I still use regular back up mag

@LlamaD2 2 күн бұрын

Regular Backup Mag is fine just don't use Adept Mag :)

@chickennuggler Күн бұрын

I feel cornered surrounded would be better, but it’s very situational

@saladgaming4339 2 күн бұрын

Neat weapon, i got both of the "best" rolls (cornered/surrounded and rewind/bns)

@ThornEnjoyer 2 күн бұрын

Same i literally just keep like 90% of my rolls til someone makes a video about the good rolls

@Wolverine131455 2 күн бұрын

It’s strange that any mag increase reduces the overall reserve size…. But the increase doesn’t matter since you can fire all the reserves

@TPO7. Күн бұрын

could you try rewind rounds with surrounded

@kennyhanks4984 2 күн бұрын

I wish you has a good roll of the saint 14 one, dont remember the name but it can get some interesting rolls, demo b&S clown b&S

@ASTROSR4 Күн бұрын

I would redo damage with a charge time masterwork and adept charge time mod

@smoxch5444 Күн бұрын

Is it best to run accelerated coils / adept charge time or ionized / backup mag?

@LlamaD2 Күн бұрын

I would go for Ionized with Charge Time

@smoxch5444 Күн бұрын

@@LlamaD2 do you know if accelerated / charge mw and adept charge all stack?

@ImitationJesus 2 күн бұрын

No Suspectum 4FR?

@ivan_domangaming9359 11 сағат бұрын

You beat Aztecross to it😅, he was about to do a damage test too

@Gaffroninja 2 күн бұрын

It would be interesting to see if it's worth hotswapping from Apotheosis to Swarmers once you get that initial dmg rotation out the way just for a little more oomf. I can imagine it's probably only a marginal increase though.

@thatguyyouhate3743 2 күн бұрын

Just use a single melee to unravel

@Star_Killer-bj1mx 2 күн бұрын

You don’t even need to swap to swarmers just throw a strand melee. It does the same thing

@Gaffroninja 2 күн бұрын

Oh boy I’m an idiot I completely forgot about that 😂

@Star_Killer-bj1mx Күн бұрын

@@Gaffroninja sadly just because of that it makes swarmers useless for a dps situation

@RoxiieReadsLore 2 күн бұрын

Llama help what do I run on Witness as Titan: Scintillation, Still Hunt / Last Wish Rocket, or Cloudstrike + Arc Rocket or GL? 🙏🏻

@LlamaD2 2 күн бұрын

I'd still do Still Hunt + Apex with Recon EL

@RoxiieReadsLore 2 күн бұрын

@@LlamaD2 Thank you boss, hard out here trying to find optimal rotations for Titan specifically on Witness.

@Ace-Intervention 2 күн бұрын

Thunderlord really is the LMG of all time

@PineappleZach666 Күн бұрын

Yooooooo what roll you got on that doomed petitioner. You should be having 12 in that mag not 9?

@peter42450 Күн бұрын

What shader are you using on your scintillation

@LlamaD2 Күн бұрын

Calus's Selected

@Lbowz4daLOW 2 күн бұрын

Briars Contempt?

@ZeoYT 2 күн бұрын

First drop adept envious bait and switch

@lessthan-three 2 күн бұрын

do we know the best battery and MW? i got one with charge time battery and charge time MW - and one with Ionized battery and reload MW.

@LlamaD2 2 күн бұрын

I go for a bigger mag size and charge time masterwork

@BlackSparrowXI Күн бұрын

@@LlamaD2 charge time mw decrease damage, would it be better if you went with reload speed no?

@ITheNameless Күн бұрын

No surrounded + cornered?

@kenohnegulle 2 күн бұрын

The strenght about Scintillation is that you never need to reload but during that damage phase that strenght doesnt really shine. Its like the worst place to test the damage, oryx would be much better

@masterjim666 2 күн бұрын

where Whisper blows it out of the water by way over 25%, so not even surges can save it.

@zowiebentley5740 2 күн бұрын

Your not doing total dmg with cataclysmic or any other with fourt time or triple tap .any time you have under 3 left in the mag reload it therefore procking fourth time 2 or 3 times more which is a total 6 more free shots .ie your very last 2 shots wouldve been 4 if you had reloaded the last 2

@GabrielPiazentin 2 күн бұрын

I do'nt know the difference between dps and total damage - and at this point I'm afraid to ask (I mean, there are two tests, how do they differ from each other?)

@petervalvo1186 2 күн бұрын

Dps is basically how fast you can put out damage. Total damage refers to how much damage your weapon over the course of time. A weapon might be able to put out a lot of damage quickly (like grenade launchers), but won’t do as much damage over the course of its whole reserves as something like whisper. Some bosses might want more dps like atrax, others you might want more total damage against a boss like golgoroth

@Oofeloofoo Күн бұрын

Is it better than apex for dps?

@ocean_0602 2 күн бұрын

Thoughts on autoloading holster vs rewind rounds? With ALH by the time you finish the mag, bait n switch is about finished making it a perfect time to reproc BnS while ALH reloads the weapon again.

@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 2 күн бұрын

Plus Veist can often keep you topped off too. I'm curious about this as well because I feel like ALH should be able to keep up with there being some edge cases where Veist doesn't proc in which Rewind would be beneficial. Not to mention things like Enhanced Battery I don't believe affecting reserves but for whatever reason everything else does? I feel like the numbers won't be enough to make a case for either being better. In the end it just comes down to preference. I personally think that BnS, Veist, and being strand to pair with Quicksilver/Final Warning/Euphony and Unraveling rounds is the most important thing about this weapon. Cataphract will like be the overall pick for most DPS windows but it's always nice to have other options available for any encounters that may ask for it.

@ocean_0602 2 күн бұрын

@@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 true agreed

@LlamaD2 2 күн бұрын

Yeah true this sounds good as well!

@paultanthony 2 күн бұрын

Please explain the adept back up mag / reserve impact 😊😅

@LlamaD2 2 күн бұрын

Basically just don't use Adept Mag, it lowers your total reserve count (not good)

@Ryuuzaki 2 күн бұрын

i lost my channel points at the T-Lord bet 😭

@TimothyRisby 2 күн бұрын

You didn’t test Line in the Sand. It’s Precision like Cataclysmic, it has B&S but no TT or FTTC so the total is probably much lower.

@alcapone117 2 күн бұрын

Why not test different roles for it like firing line or surrounded, also not having briars which was the best previously is kinda strange

@icytor1150 2 күн бұрын

Wait what about briars contempt?

@CharlesK485 2 күн бұрын

What about scintillation + firing line

@SilentSigns Күн бұрын

I really have to contest your total damage results for cata/scint. Using your reserve sizes and per-burst damage numbers, Scint is doing 44% more damage per-burst and Cata (with FTTC) has 94% more ammo so we should expect ~35% more total damage from Cata. Obviously not what your results were, which is concerning. The only advantageous behaviour Scint has is that it partially benefits from BnS on the proccing shot, but that only benefits scint ~2% extra damage (and because Cata shoots more per BnS window, compared to Cata that is closer to 1%). I did notice some issues on the partial clip of your cata testing, after the reload you prioritised BnS proccing over FTTC proccing which caused you to lose 2 ammo.That proc alone would have been ~6% more and put Cata back above Scint (albeit very marginally). I'm not going into stream archives to check but if you did this after every reload you lost 6 shots across the reserves which means you lost out on ~19% total damage. Finally it's not just adept mag that reduces reserves, any increase in your mag stat decreases total reserves for LFRs. If you just had backup mag instead of backup+mag boosting perk you would have had 20 reserves (you can push this to 21, but but the benefits are iffy) which would give an extra FTTC proc, and you would have 3 extra total shots resulting in ~9% extra damage on top of what I outlined above (This affects your Scint w/enhanced+adept mag as well but to a lesser degree). tldr you missed some fttc procs that penalise Cata's total, and suboptimal mag perks/mods combos favour Scint's total. If these were corrected Cata should still comfortably be ahead on total damage.

@CaitlintheFox 2 күн бұрын

I'll stick to my thunderlord or hammerhead for dmg, because glassway fucking sucks so much, it's the worst damn strike, and I've been playing for 7 years

@vbun4662 2 күн бұрын

One mid-season tweak and Linears could be undisputed top tier again. I used to not care about them but that was before Euphony dropped for me 😂.

@elegy8187 2 күн бұрын

Does normal backup mag reduce reserves too or just adept backup mag?

@Zleepy_ZzZ 2 күн бұрын

I think normal too

@thatguyyouhate3743 2 күн бұрын

At 3 strand reserves it holds 24 ammo Backup mag, adept backup mag and ionized all decrease it to 23 Any combo that gets you to 7 in the mag decreases it to 22 Because of Bungie’s fucked up rounding enhanced battery increases reserves to 25

@BigMooger 2 күн бұрын

Annoyingly it depends on the gun and there's no consistent rule you can follow so you just have to check it yourself

@logan2376 Күн бұрын

shouldve stacked spindle x25 for euphony, more dmg

@kassaken6521 2 күн бұрын

It's double loot yall. I got rewind rounds and bns on my first run. Now is the time if you want better chances of getting the roll you want.

@gabrieltorres6633 2 күн бұрын

Not to mention you get a second peek in the 3rd column. I got envious+auto loading

@UBtagSoGood 2 күн бұрын

Thunderlord gang rise up

@isaiahmaes 2 күн бұрын

You didn’t test briars contempt 😢

@mankaranbedi8927 2 күн бұрын

No "Right, hello guys..." ??!?? 😓

@LlamaD2 2 күн бұрын

Next video!

@elegy8187 2 күн бұрын

I’m surprised Queenbreaker is keeping up with the other linears now. It might actually be a decent option for people who need an arc linear and don’t have anything else

@looksnormal 2 күн бұрын

it's also getting a rework soon, so it might become even better

@Danxerz358 2 күн бұрын

Hold up. Did someone say Anti Barrier can break detain? They finally fixed it? XD

@LlamaD2 2 күн бұрын

I don't think this was true sadly, a mere fluke :/

@Danxerz358 Күн бұрын

@@LlamaD2 Awe ): I had a lot of hope that they fixed a bunch of stuff in the TFS update, since I saw the pyramid in The Beyond on Europa finally has all its textures after... 4 years? of being in the game

@JAYBOXPOWER1987 2 күн бұрын

I want Euphony so bad bro lol!

@sreeru 2 күн бұрын

Briar's contempt can beat em all except sleeper

@mikealgiers7852 Күн бұрын

Briar's Contempt enjoyers?

@PRIMEVAL543 2 күн бұрын

I never understood this… Rockets can deal a ton of ad clear, can be used for rotation, need no crits Nade launcher can deal a ton of ad clear, can be used for rotation, need no crits Linear fusions can’t deal ads, can’t be used for rotation, need crits Why do these deal the worst dps… like…

@ChadBro1985 2 күн бұрын

because some encounters linears are best. def not picking these over apex or edge transit 90% of the time

@PRIMEVAL543 Күн бұрын

@@ChadBro1985 all im saying is lineares can only deal dps and need to crit, that’s why they should be the best at dps

@stoicbartender 2 күн бұрын

The fact that euphony is better than every other heavy linear without that much prep is just insanity to me. Why even grind for or use scintillation when a special weapon is outdoing it lmao. Not the im complaining because I fuckin love euphony but just thought that was funny

@balooz1157 2 күн бұрын

you didn't test the wisper

@The261ride 20 сағат бұрын

Euphony is the way

@taichvohoo7023 2 күн бұрын

Voids weapons could be crazy with expanding abyss this season!

@BosheitV Күн бұрын

U missed the new stasis linear

@AgentTheVandal 2 күн бұрын

I like how good euphony is but I am worried that I’m gonna struggle to get it because it’s a raid exotic. I’ve never really had bad luck with raid exotics, and it’s not going to be much of a problem now what we have triumphs and challenges that increase drop rate. I am worried because I’m a solo player. Salvation’s Edge doesn’t appear to be very friendly to LFGs, and my teaching run didn’t feel great. I am also worried that triumphs and challenges will be even more of slog, and Master will absolutely kick my ass. Here’s hoping my next run gives me the exotic. I’ve only ran the raid once.

@jenarickman9215 2 күн бұрын

Honestly the lfgs for salvation's have been getting better the past few weeks. We even got teams that dont have to call out the witness's attacks anymore and are just able to avoid them on their own.

@AgentTheVandal 2 күн бұрын

@@jenarickman9215Verity concerns me the most not gonna lie

@killclip6449 2 күн бұрын

Witness is very lfg friendly, 3-4 people don’t have to do anything but kill adds and stay alive

@IIRedrix 2 күн бұрын

There's almost no point in even trying to get the adept for that gun, highly recommend doing normal nightfall and farming engrams to get a godroll !

@eliot58 Күн бұрын

Just like shinies during into the light, it's just to flex. As well, if you get enhanced battery, you get 6 shots in the mag, so you can run an adept charge time mod (wich doesn't lower your damage) to deal more dps

@tmntheaveyfire6822 2 күн бұрын

I think the testing has to be wrong in some capacity. Scintillation has a 30% damage boost and didn’t need to reload. How is it only doing 30k more damage than storm chaser which needed a reload and a 20% damage buff

@snipey8623 2 күн бұрын

Time to proc bait helps any non bait weapons

@yab01keef67 2 күн бұрын

So doesnt that mean it would be better if he tested it with firing line?@@snipey8623

@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 2 күн бұрын

[My bad this ended up being longer than I planned] BnS doesn't apply on the first bolt of the burst so only 2/3rds of the first shot is buffed. BnS also ran out on the second to the last shot, so the last shot had no extra damage on it. Both LFRs shot 9 rounds. So 7 shots of Scintillation were getting 30%, 1 shot only gets 2/3rds of its bolt buffed with BnS active, and the final shot had a 0% damage buff. So counting each bolt individually (1 shot x3 bolts) 4 of the bolts did 32,575 damage and 23 bolts did 42,347 damage totaling 1,104,281 Storm Chaser gets 20% on all 9 shots (27 bolts) doing 40,365 damage per bolt totaling 1,089,855. 14,426 more damage on the Scintillation roll. Rapid Hit gives reload and a scalar which can bring it's reload speed down to 1.40-1.49seconds which isn't all that different to the time it took him to activate BnS in the beginning of the Scintillation damage test. Also factoring in the 9-10k damage loss on some of the bolts from BnS running out (and the initial activating bolt). You could try to reproc BnS before it fully runs out but that'll likely end in a DPS loss for an encounter like this. All this to say: Theres so much to consider that even in a more controlled environment like this it's hard to say that one is objectively better. That said if there's this little of a difference in damage due to the amount of damage loss you can get with BnS on sa couple of your shots, I wonder how well a Rewind + Firing Line would do. It would basically be that same Storm Chaser but without needing that reload which might allow it one more shot putting it closer to 1,210,950 damage. Considering Scintillation and the raid sniper are the only weapons to be able to get that roll (rewind + firing)? It might be worth considering though BnS does have the added benefit of letting you do a BnS swap with Witherhoard. You could with Izy and Still Hunt but I feel like RLs and GLs are a bit better for that.

@tmntheaveyfire6822 2 күн бұрын

@@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 there’s a lot of data that AFAIK that BNS DOES proc on the first shot, just not showing numbers. Healthbar testing shows this, partly why I’m saying the testing is wrong since he’s using endgame damage numbers which are notoriously buggy.