Is SUPER SAIYAN Still RELEVANT in Dragon Ball Super?

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InnovativeJdawg

InnovativeJdawg

Жыл бұрын

With Goku and the others having access to forms like Ultra Instinct, Ultra Ego, and even Gohan Beast, Is Super Saiyan still relevant in Dragon Ball Super?
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@ricardorodriguezjr7329
@ricardorodriguezjr7329 Жыл бұрын
Super Saiyan is so iconic I don't think they will let it go
@InnovativeJdawg
@InnovativeJdawg Жыл бұрын
Let’s hope it sticks around for as long as the series keeps going!
@justinsden
@justinsden Жыл бұрын
I think Super Saiyan will still be a relevant transformation, they just wont be used as much. I like the diversity of the different forms the group us taking on now. It opens the door for new possibilities, rather than utilizing same name transformations with a different hair color.
@InnovativeJdawg
@InnovativeJdawg Жыл бұрын
Agreed! With everyone being unique, it helps keep the story fresh and engaging and no matter what they decide to do with Super Saiyan, it’ll without a doubt stick around as long as Dragon Ball keeps going.
@e_mine505
@e_mine505 Жыл бұрын
Something I want to see back is Super Saiyan 4. It was one of my favourite forms and looked amazing Sure it would work much now that Goku and Vegetta are on a much higher level but imagine someone else like Broly or someone like him gets SS4? That would be amazing
@InnovativeJdawg
@InnovativeJdawg Жыл бұрын
IF Super Saiyan 4 gets brought back or reinvented, I’d be cool with it, but Broly is without a doubt the best way to do it
@bokcmeechie938
@bokcmeechie938 Жыл бұрын
I don’t it’s not a cannon form won’t make sense in terms of how to implicate it won’t work lol
@InnovativeJdawg
@InnovativeJdawg Жыл бұрын
@@bokcmeechie938 Broly wasn’t canon either but they did a pretty good job bringing him into canon. I’m sure if they really wanted to, they could do the same thing with Super Saiyan 4. Should they though? That’s a different conversation and everyone has different thoughts on that lol
@bokcmeechie938
@bokcmeechie938 Жыл бұрын
@@InnovativeJdawg they don’t have tails how would they get the form have Vilma make another machine lol
@loser_number_00
@loser_number_00 10 ай бұрын
@@bokcmeechie938 the same way they did it in gt idiot 😭
@amiciahugo1855
@amiciahugo1855 Жыл бұрын
Like vegeta once said I just wanna be a super saiyen
@nobleskywalker4639
@nobleskywalker4639 Жыл бұрын
If they do a Universe 6 Sadala arc it will be VERY relevant plot wise
@InnovativeJdawg
@InnovativeJdawg Жыл бұрын
For sure! Even with the Goten & Trunks portion of the Super Hero arc (the current manga arc) Super Saiyan was still pretty relevant to their characters because they fought smaller-scaled villains.
@CheosgamerX-ik1kq
@CheosgamerX-ik1kq Жыл бұрын
Please do NOT bring those sluts back I'd much rather a bulla and pan ark
@RacingSnails64
@RacingSnails64 Жыл бұрын
I think Super Saiyan got lame as soon as the Android arc... Too many people unlocked it and this "legend" became nothing. Overexposed and not rare enough. Goten and Trunks really drilled this into the ground. I think, ironically, the Android arc DID introduce something interesting with SSJ--everyone having a specialized version of it. Super Vegeta, Ultra Trunks, SS2 Gohan... I think they should have kept it like that. Make every character have a unique specialized form of SSJ. That would make the concept WAY more interesting, instead of the linear progression that everyone has access to. Uniqueness, uniqueness, uniqueness. Drop power levels and give us more unique powers. DBS has been going in the right direction lately with Ultra Instinct, Ultra Ego, not to mention everything new Broly has going on. Not a hard rule--it's ok if a *few* characters share a form/technique--this is just an idea to make things more interesting and varied 🙂
@InnovativeJdawg
@InnovativeJdawg Жыл бұрын
Agreed! I think it comes down to how each character uses the form and depending on what they do, there's still a level of uniqueness and relevancy behind it all. Like how I said Goku could use SSJ forms in conjunction with Ultra Instinct, that's a concept that we've only really seen him do.
@j.i.k2.044
@j.i.k2.044 Жыл бұрын
Super Saiyan will always be relevant 💯
@wesleykim6523
@wesleykim6523 Жыл бұрын
I think Super Saiyan will still be relevant in terms of Dragon Ball’s branding and identity, but story wise, Super Saiyan is definitely used as a sort of “Battle Appetizer”. However, I do like how the new Ultra transformations are unique to the characters that have them. (even if Gohan Beast kinda just happens) I do remember hearing the theory of Goku using Ultra Instinct stacked with Super Saiyan back when Ultra Instinct was first revealed
@InnovativeJdawg
@InnovativeJdawg Жыл бұрын
That’s a pretty good way at explaining it! Super Saiyan will without a doubt stay alive as long as the series continues, I just hope DBS capitalizes on the fact that it can be combined with techniques like Ultra Instinct, if not just for telling a good story, but for for branding purposes.
@dannywaller4397
@dannywaller4397 Жыл бұрын
I think they will Fuze the ss forms with there new ultra forms it will end with ultra instinct with ss3 hair but silver lol
@InnovativeJdawg
@InnovativeJdawg Жыл бұрын
They definitely led into that concept with Goku using UI in his God form against Granolah. I'd be interest to see what he does in the future!
@tinashejk
@tinashejk Жыл бұрын
As Much I like those Strongest Transformations like True Ultra Instinct or Ultra Ego or BEAST etc. Doesn't mean they are Iconic then OG Super Saiyan itself. SSJ Is Too iconic (Still My No.1 alongside SSJ2, SSJ3 Transformation and even SSJ4) to be Abandoned or Irrelevant. Super Saiyan (超サイヤ人/Sūpā Saiya-jin) will always have a Special place in my Heart. 💛💛
@InnovativeJdawg
@InnovativeJdawg Жыл бұрын
For sure, the original Super Saiyan is one of my favorites, it'll always have a place in my heart. I just hope DBS capitalizes on the idea that it can be used in conjunction with UI like what we saw in the manga, it'd be real cool to see it be brought back that way
@gakarotoson1826
@gakarotoson1826 Жыл бұрын
I think they will bring it back in a new way. Maybe they will bring ssj4 in canon or will make ui ssj. Think about it, sayjans rageful strength combined with movement hard to track of ui.
@InnovativeJdawg
@InnovativeJdawg Жыл бұрын
SSJ + UI definitely seems to be the next logical step imo, but they could also bring SSJ4 back if they really wanted to. Anything is possible really
@selfloathinggivesmelife7810
@selfloathinggivesmelife7810 Жыл бұрын
I think Super Saiyan is going to be the go to form for the next generation like Goten, Trunks, Pan and maybe Bulla. They can use it for enemies that are only a danger to Earth.
@InnovativeJdawg
@InnovativeJdawg Жыл бұрын
Definitely! Goten and Trunks are due for an ascended version of SSJ imo, but Pan and maybe Bulla definitely deserve to start their SSJ journey
@selfloathinggivesmelife7810
@selfloathinggivesmelife7810 Жыл бұрын
@@InnovativeJdawg I still can't belive they can't even go SSJ2. Like, they could've had them achieve it at ANY point during Super and no one would've batted an eye since they're in their base forms at the End of Z.
@InnovativeJdawg
@InnovativeJdawg Жыл бұрын
@@selfloathinggivesmelife7810 Agreed, maybe it’ll happen eventually? Maybe now that they’re a bit grown up, they’ll be put back in the spotlight for it to actually happen
@Pory404
@Pory404 Жыл бұрын
Yes it is, notice how even in the new movies super saiyan is always used, it’s used as a gauge for the user to see how strong the person they are fighting, really is.
@InnovativeJdawg
@InnovativeJdawg Жыл бұрын
Definitely and I think it’ll always be used that way as long as the series continues. However, I think it’s possible for the form to still be relevant in more ways than just that, like from a story perspective and even as a way to advance both Goku and Vegeta’s characters
@sirqubiryair
@sirqubiryair Жыл бұрын
I think That Ultra ego Ultra instinct Orange and others are going to be the last forms to achieve
@InnovativeJdawg
@InnovativeJdawg Жыл бұрын
It's possible, if Toei decides to end Dragon Ball right here and now. But if the series keeps on going for years, we'll probably see more forms
@supasaiyan5884
@supasaiyan5884 Жыл бұрын
The first SSJ is too iconic for the show to gloss over. Either they give Goku SSJ + UI or they give him SSJ3 + UI. To me, SSJ3 was always the coolest forms out of all. It made Goku look menacing. It also made him look like a vocalist out of a metal band 😂. People have been complaining Super made Goku dumb, with SSJ3 they can bring back his edge again. Anyways, nice video
@InnovativeJdawg
@InnovativeJdawg Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Also I agree, SSJ + UI seems to be the next logical step for the series imo
@e8bone962
@e8bone962 Жыл бұрын
Why would the era be over when there are other saiyans that hasn’t passed ssj3 n we don’t know what could happen to them to make them somehow surpass that in the future
@InnovativeJdawg
@InnovativeJdawg Жыл бұрын
I wasn’t really saying “this era is over” I was asking the question on whether it is or isn’t to segway into the topic of the video. But in reality, all the characters who haven’t even gone SSJ3 yet, they don’t have enough of an impact on the story, at least not currently.
@efrenmjr
@efrenmjr Жыл бұрын
Hi jaduko
@InnovativeJdawg
@InnovativeJdawg Жыл бұрын
Hey how’s it going
@Dave-gk6si
@Dave-gk6si Жыл бұрын
Ultra instinct is a technique and a form
@InnovativeJdawg
@InnovativeJdawg Жыл бұрын
Yes it’s both. It’s a technique at its core but Goku has been able to better utilize it in transformations, which are what UI Sign and the silver haired UI are
@manny9166
@manny9166 Жыл бұрын
Super Saiyan is irrelevant to universe 7, mostly all the z fighters minus Yamcha were around ssb in the t.o.p arc... besides Goten and Trunks i guess. I think its going to be a universe 6 thing 🤔 Give me ssj4 though, it may be an inferior transformation but it was so badass.... can't say the same for the rest of gt lol
@ehx3419
@ehx3419 2 ай бұрын
There was a comment here, but pretty much my entire point was brought up in the video.
@SlyNine
@SlyNine Жыл бұрын
It's called, merchandise.
@InnovativeJdawg
@InnovativeJdawg Жыл бұрын
Of course
@barcaman1013
@barcaman1013 5 ай бұрын
Dbz is total ass now Toriyama should've ended the series at namek as intended
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