its because the 40% that's on you. you are under performing them.

Not enough games, probably.

You are the free loss culprit

@@TheHiroCameron u didn't get his joke.

@@mohamadzakaria96 He actually didn't xD

Same

That explains why im still bronze

How I met your mother refference?

Scott How do you mean that? Trying to find a possible reference but it hasn‘t come to my mind yet

@@dr.schneider8595 Barneys mom told him he couldnt play baseball because he was so good it would be unfair. While, actually the coach thought he was bad and didnt let him on the team

respect that you are an accomplished and admired player still watching educational videos :)

Appreciate that man! Thanks for tuning in brother

Not surprised to see you here, always willing to learn and help, your champ suits you well

Funny to see you here petu, you are my other goto youtuber for soloq

Yo Petu :)

Playing Viktor irl

Im just commenting because i know you

@@adiuliel damn xD

I think u mean results based thinking not reward based but yea. This is a huge problem in league

Really good point, this is commonly referred to as results based thinking, it can be quite dangerous and that's why sometimes getting someone else to look at a play can be great because they are able to be objective regardless of whether it was a win or loss

Good point

Same, nice video Curtis.

Hahaha my passive irl is now 'psychoanalyze'

very good point

I mean, at my elo you can win with an all smite team... So I guess the fact alone that voice comes can wreck this level is quite the thing. It makes me feel that if keep up a good pace it should not be hard to stop being a noob heheh. Didn't expect to see you here BTW, keep making those history vids, I enjoy them a lot. :3

Hey man really appreciate that ! Although I see where you are coming from, I respectfully disagree. In a game filled with solid match making in silver, where there are silver 2 level players in each role with no smurfs, this ratio in my mind still applies. This ratio only breaks if there are smurfs within the game. Yes games might end faster in high elo, but that doesn't necessarily mean the amount of games won or lost actually changes. We have to remember that the level of play at each elo is relative, so for a higher elo challenger player looking at a low elo silver game we may we able to see how they have 'more' control over a game, but that doesn't actually matter since they don't have the ability to do so. But regardless, like I say in the video, it's less about the ratio and more about the mentality knowing that the ability to climb is all in your control :)

​@@CoachCurtis "This ratio only breaks if there are smurfs within the game". Well not quite. If you follow the argument made in your video to its end, then the logic says that the smurf is equally likely to be on either your team or their team. Their might be a slight adjustment since you yourself are not smurfing, but it doesn't negate the general point.

Hi exil, sure in low elo you as a single player yuo have more control over your games but at the same time a bronze/silver player has not the knowledge to carry by himself, he can learn sure but it requires PATIENCE. to me this is the main problem for elo player, patience, climbing requires a lot of time and effort. At least that's my personal experience in ranked games both in LoL and overwatch.

After watching the video. The draven game was inevitable and I should’ve just refreshed mental and played the next game better.

@@Ok-nz7gy Or even go bot collect 1k gold shutdown and make it a 40% game.

@@jakubrpawlowski that's not how it works

@@nedi8744 why not? If he can kill him it s possible.

i'm hoping it wasn't you playing varus/zyra vs me as draven that went afk at 5 xD

well, that's The Internet for you ... and yes, it's amazing ^^ (I mean, you wouldn't have The Internet at all, and most things on it, if it weren't for free work o willing contributors. That makes you think twice about that pro-capitalist myth that "people need to be put under pressure of homelessness/starvation in order to be productive or they just become useless lazy faks"... [yeah that's borderline nazi rhetoric if you think abou tit twice...] )

You're right! It's such good quality coaching to tell people that by default, 60% of their games cannot be impacted and are simply determined automatically. Totally useful to makeup random statistics that discourage people from trying in the majority of games they play!

Appreciate that Gonza !

smart cast actually lowkey makes you miss a lot of skillshots by not taking time to aim them xP a lot of times i'd be playing with someone and ask them "... are you on smartcast ? turn it off. your skillshots are awful, i don't even know how you think you're gonna hit them"

@@blop-a-blop9419 eune peak silver3 advice

@@blop-a-blop9419 that's just completely wrong. it's complete personal preference.

Yep that's a really good strategy I like that, at least you can take away something

How is that a good strategy? EVERY SINGLE GAME is a potential win, no matter what it looks like! I´ve won 4v5 matches, i´ve lost matches were we had a 30-5 lead with 5 drakes. Don´t "train" in ranked, play to win if you want to climb!

@@kenshigo3833 Improving has a direct correlation to winning more, and how are you expecting someone to get better if they never play ranked because they 'arent good enough'? I dodge any new players, 1k games negative winrate shitters, inters, AFKers, trolls because I don't want to waste energy on those games. But that doesn't mean that new player shouldn't keep playing. Because they aren't being bad on purpose like the rest of those groups.

@@kenshigo3833 playing to win is the dumbest shit ever thats why league is toxic

@@kenshigo3833 ive had games where I've had three worthless teammates that ive only won because the enemy had 4 worthless players. Sometimes games come down to who is heavier, not every game is winnable

I haven't grinded ranked yet, but i have grinded aram to 2500(~top 1% of players). I found that in mid level mmrs you would get those people that would tilt easily and flame you(in aram it would be because they are dead all the time, so they watch you instead and have time to type). I would try to patiently say that this is silver mmr and that means we are both bad but that would just make them madder =). Above a certain rank people just play and cant be bothered to type anything at all

Love it man, that's a massive climb ! Keep up the great work

An easy way to make it at least somewhat better for these players would be to implement the same system as valorant (and other games), remove the promo matches. THe promo match system is a dated system that at the games inception was a good idea, but as the game has evolved, its just dated.

Keep at it brother!

falls hope, the climb wont ever get better, only worse, still fun none the less tho

@@ramonvolp3663 lol the climb only depends on your skill if you are above the level you are playing at you WILL climb so getting better at the game is the most important thing to climb

it only gets worse then slowly your mental goes

There's ways to 'reset' mmr no? I forgot how they works but it might be something to look into

there's invariability in gameplay but eventually with a large sample size of games played the number of losses and wins attributed to teammates and the enemy will even out like coach curtis said and your friend will become the only consistent factor throughout those games. if your friend is a performing at a mid-diamond level and is still stuck in gold then i'm assuming that's the problem doesn't lie in his teammates but in his approach to the game.

Sure man, if you can upload those vods to youtube and join the discord and send them to me, I can show you very quickly he is a gold player

@@CoachCurtis W

if he plays extremely well, but is the type of player that easily starts to flame his team, or decides to go next after the enemy team gains a small advantage, then that could very easily inflate his free losses to make up 50% of his games.

YES

The real issue is that this ENTIRE season is Jungle Diff *or* Rock-paper-Scizzors champion picks. You have really little margin for differentiating yourself in lane.

​@@almisami That's why I switched to jungle after 6 years of support. Got hardstuck Gold 2-3 this season as a support (last two seasons I went plat). Last week I said to myself imma main jungle for at least a month. After 20 games I am sitting at 67% wr. I still am not a "good" jungler, but way better than the coinflip junglers I got in my games as a supp.

Thanks Kostas!

You are spot on, love this man! Appreciate the clarification

why are people using hard maths for a game that's so simple lmao

Chode league is So simple?

Beautiful mentality to have man

I think what happened to u is similar to me

Link ur op.gg I don’t believe you the odds of that would be insane

Adrian Garcia JANY link op.gg the odds of that are immense

@@coletrain7464 in my sec acc euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=ropehell look at the last 8 games of diana

Have same mmr any help to fix that?

if u have bad mmr theres probably a obvious reason for that w/e that is. id suggest just keep playing and focus on MMR that means dont play for LP, play for MMR even if you need to demote some ranks despite having 50-50 wr. eventually when ur mmr is fixed u can more easily rank up. if you are stuck after demoting and fixing your mmr, thats the elo you deserve, but if you truly believe you are better then you will climb eventually. in this case its all about the long term gains

@@hijinxxftw5017 thanks :)

hes been high elo for several years he has gotta be doing something right

Look up NEACE's video "Why HASHINSHIN Outranks You"

Hash tilts and whines but he can pull through a win. Ur average silver doesnt know what he is doing.

he's been d4/d3 for a long time now. Def where he deserves to be

@@nedi8744 didnt he hit grandmaster twice this year in like the last 2 months? and i remember him saying he deliberatly wanted to demote to low daimond, and then later he regretted it, because hes had to change is play style and the champs he plays

@@DragonRuffian It is not that easy, when they start to dive you, but you can still aticipate it. As Top warding tribush and see the enemy jgl get into position helps a lot to get back to savety. with game knowledge you start to read the oponents movements. you will see when they want to dive and you can back out in time and again: defensive wards are your friends. yes they might get first turret, so what? they would get turret anyway after they kill you. ofc it also depends on the enemy and your champs. you would still think twice to dive a 0/4 Lux, Leona or Ryze, as they can still snare you under turret and trade kills but Talon is free real estate once he is behind

Thank god, someone who actually understands this...

If your 0/12 that just shows you are consistently doing something wrong. The game maybe a loss, but more importantly it should be reviewed so it is understood where it all went wrong. The problem is sometimes giving a person 1 kill is enough to start the snowball. I have had games where the lane is lost on 1 bad trade. Sometimes that is hard to see in the moment. The last time I had a match that bad, I immediately went and watched a video of someone higher elo play the match out because I felt I didn't understand the matchup.

You are alrdy in the top 0.1 percent of ppl who play their first ranked season,

i start playing too first time this season. I learned to jungle, watched videos all time and I went gold 1 suprisingly i cluimbed from gol 4 to 1 with 0 effort. then i start demoting and losing now hardstuck gold 4.

Update, i manage to get to gold 1 but im in law school now i dont have the time to play atm :(

@@SongfulpuppyXBL i feel u

Appreciate that man! Thanks for the support, potentially in the future but for now I'm happy doing just mid oriented stuff :)

did you even watch the video

but dodging its not easy too, i need a time, for understand when i need to dodge, and when i need to play

@@Global_Hub_Insight teach me that art sir, when do you dodge?

@@GusPD When you have auto-filled jungler or someone on your team picked a champion with what they have less than 48% win rate

@@LuckyGnom that would mean I dodge more games than I play, and I try not to dodge more then once a day. I constantly get matched with under 50% wr players

LuckyGnom winrate is not really fair metric, as for example I started playing this season, and my first 20ish ranked games my winrate was around 30% because I had no clue how this game works, now my winrate is around 45%, but with certain champs that I play recently, my winrate is 60%-70%. So it’s not the whole picture

Yeah, and because you prayed to god, you could move out of your wheelchair and... oh wait. You just had luck. Report again when you dropped back, will ya?

@@Zedek someone is salty... little baby has no mental? gonna cry? just so u know, i'm actually 61 LP into gold now, so not only did i get gold, but i have continued to win. maybe you'll get there some day when u realize that its all up to you.

Yeah was thinking the same, there is no real explanation as for why this model should be applied here. This whole video is nonsense really because it’s based on something that is not valid to use, and somehow people buy into this.

@@Victor-fh5lx He forces a lot of this stuff for content. But yes, he literally made an entire video on a concept that has no real verifiable basis in this game.

yeah, the better you play , the worst teammates you have , so is a fair matchup, but if you are the good one, it feels very frustrating

the game STILL is a coinflip though.. with those 30% autoloss games. people need to just accept that and take it on the chin.

OK the final rant is totally wrong... everyone has plenty of friends that they have played 100+ normal games with and theyre total garbage but are higher ranked. the system isnt ALWAYS right in low elo. gold/plat has plenty of iron players, and silver has plenty of plat players. they just need to grind a bit more

I believe it was 1 otp, 1 meta champ, and one champ that counters the counter of your otp

@@danielkim4320 i play xerath as my otp, what do you suggest as 2nd and 3rd?

Mylan. Anivia and any AD midlaner. The reason being is that Anivia counters most champions that counter Xerath and you need AD just in case your team stacks AP.

@@choerrim7745 nice thank you!!

@@choerrim7745 i like leblanc, zed, and ryze. which one should i pick to otp and which other 2 champs should i play to match it

You probably don't you just focus on it. Also, you maybe play like 40 series games a season so more luck is involved.

True. This is why some hardstucks are hardstucks. Just climbing is imposible, because your mmr says "no no no, you not belong here, go back". One my friend was G4 get 10 lp for win, lose 20 lp. On new account he get to plat 4 and season ended (he started playing rankeds after half of the season). Sometimes new account is real solution for broken mmr...

@@ladrok97 if ur stuck in the same division after 30 games this begins to occur

he isnt an assassin play i think just watch katevolved or katlife, unless u want to see it as entertainment and ur a kat main like me

@@stefanpupaleski4090 not really i want an educational type of content so i can understand how to carry

@@abdelnourouafi1512 well they have some real guides, ik that

He did make a fizz video and says he plans on making a Kat video. Probably won’t happen but it’s not like Kat needs a guide. Punish enemy mistakes and roam

I'm working on a Zed guide for now, but in the future probably

Wtf, can u explain me Better this trick?

@@Axel984_ yes I had a terrible mmr when I got to d4, so when you get to promos d4-d3, you just dodge like 3-4 of them and your mmr is fixed.

Lol

@@nikidein8753 this is big brain

No problem Marc!

me 2 most of time :)

that means you int most of the time (you contribute to win for enemy team. just a joke xd)

i don't think that you guys got the concept of the video lmao

@@omerfridman6851 I even said just a joke and you still don't get it

especially with a rigged matching system

People usually afk on games that seem lost to them. You could still influence some of those games before they afk.

@@florin920 It's often REALLY hard to make that influence though. I've had games where the team kills were only like 5 apart in mid game, and we actually took more turrets than the enemy, and had some scaling champs (I play Tryndamere). I've been up 60+ cs and 4 or 5 kills against my laner, but because the princess in mid-lane fed a few kills, and bot lane is behind by like 500g, they think the game is lost and ff. For the last few months, 90% of my games are a coinflip of who gets the afk. When I say afk here, this also includes people who die like 2-3 times in lane and make the decision to ff@15 since they are mentally afk at that point. Some games, I crush lane and make my enemy laner ragequit. Other games, someone does that to my mid/jg. I've had people quit the game after dying 1 time. In these games where my team has the "afk" player.. I will be playing like a pro, split pushing and getting objectives, matching the enemy's push (sure, not EVERY time, but definitely majority). Yet still, the dude who got himself killed twice mid in the first 5 minutes of the game sits in fountain and bitches the whole time his lane is getting shoved in, or his laner roams and gets a couple more kills in a side lane. I generally have the right mentality to play solo queue.. but lately, I don't even want to waste my time, because so many people are playing this game that don't even want to play this game. How many times do you queue up and hit accept to find someone declined? How many times do you have someone afk in your game (your team or the enemies), or die a couple times and spend most of the game typing in chat? How many times do you get into champ select and have someone dodge? The last one has variables, I know. I just don't even want to bother trying to climb when this is how nearly every game goes lately. Then, the cherry on the sunday here.. When it's the enemy that ff@15, it doesn't even feel satisfying. Sometimes it does.. but lately, not at all. When 90% of your games are decided by someone afk'ing, it makes the team game less fun. Not to mention that maybe you were trying a new build, but the enemy ff before you finish 2nd or 3rd item. So many people playing this game are that annoying little kid that would turn the video game off if you were beating their ass at Street Fighter. THAT is MY problem with solo queue, and LoL in general these days.

really? after the whole video you still dont get it? you arent special... you come into the same games as everyone else. big chance is that you are the one who is feeding and holding your team back

Excellent analysis. This of course leads, taking the 50% on it's 25% win for the average player (by definition) into account, on a 65% lose and 35% win ratio for the average player. This difference of 30% points implies games where both team lose but paradoxically none of them has ever been recorded on video or any database and they remain only theoretical. This is called the Great Winrate Deficit and is one of the greatest mysteries of modern league of legends.

this mathematically doesn't make sense lol you should actually be getting a bit more free wins than losses, bc the only thing you can control in game is yourself. If you are playing well, your team has 4 other players that can royally fuck up, while the opposing team has 5 players that can royally fuck up

@@angelgomez9549 leauge is not rocket science riot obviously riggs natchmaking and unless you duo you cant really climb unless youre 3 elos better than youre currently in

@@gaylordtv561 ok gold

@@angelgomez9549 wanna see how many free wins i got out of my last 200 games? realisticlly maybe 15-20 free losses? ATLEAST 100 im not talking about games in which we had a comeback chance im talking about borderlibe unplayable pre 10 minutes losses when you lose 5 16 minutes game in a row and you still believe mm is good youre delsuinal i cant do much when my botlane is1-17 in under 20 minutes and my toplaner plays 3 elos worse than his lane opponent Games which werent auto losses were ultra hard and i did only win when dropping 15 kills+ and/or hard carrying with good kdas but ey dimaond peak brother keep on living in youre world

its part of league and its true, because yasuo

Awesome to hear man ! Love it when I get these sorts of comments, appreciate you tuning in man