Is the NEW Warriors Manga Worth Reading? | Warrior Cats Book Review

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Hawkkz

Hawkkz

Күн бұрын

In this review, I read Exile from ShadowClan: the newest Warrior Cats graphic novel/manga to hit stores as of June 2022. Is it worth reading?
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@Sunnyfall
@Sunnyfall 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. I got a Thornkit moment that I will cherish forever but most of this book was a retread of already bad material that was made worse with the forced passivity of the protagonist and the new lore set in recently. Side note: I'm loving the new sprites! A very nice addition to your videos and a lovely style from Vexnie!
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
AAA you mean when he snapped a Clawface?? THAT WAS SO PRECIOUS I LITERALLY MELTED ❤️❤️ I'm glad you agree! I've yet to check much of Twitter or anything today outside of a few video updates 'cause I've been working on this all day, but I look forward to hearing what you have to say Sunny! Much love as always. YESSS I am IN LOVE with the sprites they're SOOO good Vexnie did AMAZING I'm so proud of him.
@Vespabuggie
@Vespabuggie 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad folks seem to be appreciating the sprites, especially you, ty!!
@TheAshfurApologist
@TheAshfurApologist 2 жыл бұрын
I think iam at a point where nothing will be a hindrance to me finding enjoyment from anything the series produces, more character info(love the name volewhisper) more stories, literally any new ideas the Warriors team can come up with, will always get my approval, Exile is no different.
@dr.brandino
@dr.brandino 2 жыл бұрын
I think that the new books moving forward, should be about the current plot. The constant moving back and forth is starting to get old. Although I do appreciate the art in these new graphic novels, most of the stories are stuff we kind of already know. We know who is going to live and who is going to die. Also, nice sprites.😎
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
I don't mind them backtracking as long as interesting narratives are added to the plot. This book adds a lot of nothing though, IMO, and just cements the difference between main series Nightstar and Yellowfang's Secret Nightstar. And I'm not so sure about the retcon that ends up happening either. Very, very pretty book tho. And thank you! I absolutely adore the sprites.
@awoum
@awoum 2 жыл бұрын
I actually really enjoyed it 😭 As someone who hasn't read Yellowfang's secret either, this book covered a lot that I didn't know about I didn't know about what was happening in Shadowclan during that time (except for the little flash backs in Blackstar novella) and this manga showed it in a way that I enjoyed it Also I didn't know much about Nightstar, since the only thing I've read was from the first arc and Blackstar novella, which wasn't much. This manga also felt way more natural than the other stories from warriors. I tend to feel warriors characters as forced, like, why would they follow a leader who is killing kits just because? In the manga, it shows how the clan culture itself is the one that make this kind of leaders rise, and the reasoning behind it. Also shows in a way that I loved and felt it very natural how Nightpelt didn't come from nowhere to be leader, but that his personality, totally contrary to Brokenstar, is what made the clan chose him. I also prefer to read about old characters than the new ones, but thats more personal I think lol
@sylviathegreat
@sylviathegreat 2 жыл бұрын
This novel, in my opinion, is great! I love the story and how it allows you to see how the elders felt when Brokenstar was made leader.
@soaricarus
@soaricarus 2 жыл бұрын
i am in LOVE with the new talking sprites!!! the fluff, the paws, all the expressions - oh my god!! the artist did such a good job!!
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
THEY'RE SO BEAUTIFUL 😭
@justawildloa
@justawildloa 2 жыл бұрын
Knowing me I’d probably still get it because pretty pictures. When it comes to the mangas I’m not very hard to please lol(Love the new sprites too!)
@Vespabuggie
@Vespabuggie 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@Scytalis
@Scytalis 2 жыл бұрын
Loving the new talking sprites! A very good addition to your videos and the artist did an amazing job with them!
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
THEY REALLY DID, DIDN'T THEY?
@1Katakana
@1Katakana 2 жыл бұрын
Starclan denying Nightstar any lives because Raggedstar is still walking around is such a poor excuse when 1. The very code says that one of the ways a deputy can become leader is if the current leader retires. And 2. Pinestar was "retired"/had abandoned his clan when Sunstar went to get his lives, and they at least gave him 8. (which makes me wonder if any new leader only gets 8 if the old one is retired in the elders den, or if by Starclan's logic they get 9 because the old leader is still in/still a part of the clan).
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
Yuuuuup. They really shouldn't have had Raggedstar say any of that. It's like the writers completely forgot that Yellowfang demoted Brokenstar and it actually worked WAY before this book was ever written. It's kind of crazy how they'll just jump ship on lore like that. All they had to do was say that Brokenstar still had his lives or something and it would've made at least a little bit of sense. Not this whole "Brokenstar fulfilled his promise" stuff 😭
@dragondog1017
@dragondog1017 2 жыл бұрын
I think Pinestar only had one life left when her retired which is why Sunstar got 8 instead of nine I believe if he had more then the new leader would get less??
@1Katakana
@1Katakana 2 жыл бұрын
@@dragondog1017 Yeah. They held the fact that Pinestar had one life left against Sunstar.
@CheetehZ
@CheetehZ 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes it is.
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
cheetehz honey it kind of isn't sorry bestie 😭
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
retcon volewhisper is not enough 😭
@sylviathegreat
@sylviathegreat 2 жыл бұрын
oh shit, the god of maps has arrived
@CheetehZ
@CheetehZ 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hawkkz Ah but ma petit chou-fleur, while this novel did not have your climactic battle scenes or shocking twists, I believe that a guy finding his place as a leader and helping those in need made for a nice tale.
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
@@CheetehZ yea until they told him “sorry the guy that kills babies gets to keep his job” mb 💀
@wheezyonpaws
@wheezyonpaws 2 жыл бұрын
Can We Just Look At This Amazing Character Doing The Commentary- LIKE- HOW? ITS SO PRETTY- he gives me HawkFrost vibes-
@wheezyonpaws
@wheezyonpaws 2 жыл бұрын
GO SUPPORT WHO THE ART ITS IN THE DESC-
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
@@wheezyonpaws I SECOND THIS SO MUCH YES GO SUPPORT HIM NOW
@wheezyonpaws
@wheezyonpaws 2 жыл бұрын
Edit: OMG- THATS MOST LIKE IN A KZfaq COMMENT I HAVE EVER HAD- TYSM!
@laclara4020
@laclara4020 2 жыл бұрын
I love Exile from Shadowclan, but I think it would be nice to get some mangas about characters from never books. Characters like DarkTail, RowanStar, basically any of og SkyClan cats and a lot more characters could make for interesting protagonists of one
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
There's a lot they can do with the manga, novellas, and Super Editions, but they've yet to really branch outside of their comfort zone and give us a completely original story with them. I definitely agree!
@funkyfelineonthecase
@funkyfelineonthecase 2 жыл бұрын
Ohhh yeah!! I remember looking up Tallstar’s revenge like two days ago and seeing that and being like: “Wait... I haven’t seen that cover yet..” and it said it was AT BOOKS A MILLION and I totally forgot to get it ☠️ also I ADORE the new sprites!! They look so sick! 10/10 to the artist, it kind of looks nostalgic to me!!
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
YESSS they did SUCH a good job with the sprites. Huge props to him
@emeraldite7296
@emeraldite7296 2 жыл бұрын
Oooh that's an interesting review. I thought it was pretty good! Personally speaking. It was actually interesting getting to know more about Nightstar and his involvement in his leadership with his fellow exiled clanmates after getting cruelly cast out by Brokenstar. It definitely made me like Nightstar even more since reading the graphic novel. Of course, there were definitely some parts of the story that made me recoil and on edge whilst reading in regards to Brokenstar abusing his power for the sake of vengeance and tyranny. The ending left on a cliffhanger like I expected but we already know what happened anyway, especially given the fact that this graphic novel is tied to TPB (Forests of secrets to be specific if I'm not mistaken). All in all, it was a good read, and I'd probably read it again without hesitation. Btw sorry if this comment turned out wonky, I'm still learning to write reviews and I'm extremely horrible at it mind you
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
No problem! I enjoyed the book for what it was quite a lot actually. Just wasn't anything too out of the ballpark, you know? Haha. Thank you for the comment! Keep practicing writing ❤
@inkynewt
@inkynewt 2 жыл бұрын
The new talksprite looks great! I'm not super prone to reading the graphic novels so on your recommendation I may skip this one, but good to hear your opinions as always ♡
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Qoi! I recommend checking out some of the art on the wiki or wherever you can find it if you can, though! The art for these is always really fantastic. And thank you! The artist really did an amazing job with them ❤️
@gnr6021
@gnr6021 2 жыл бұрын
your content just keeps getting more and more better. this is such an underrated channel, keep up the amazing work as always!
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! ❤
@KaeserLooty
@KaeserLooty 2 жыл бұрын
tbh for me it makes sense that Brokenstar still had his lives while Nightpelt couldn't have none, because as we see from Rowanstar, the leader must give up on them on their will. The new rule in the new code probably will start actual conflicts about it: would 2/3 + medicine cat be enough to strip their leaders of their lives?? I think this is is the point they want to make it
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
That's a fair point, but it seems pretty ridiculous for Brokenstar to be demoted by Yellowfang with this new bit of lore in mind. Yes, originally this was just a plot device to help Tigerstar assume leadership of ShadowClan, but why even go to the effort of explaining it as "Brokenstar fulfilled his promise" rather than just saying that they can't give him any extra lives until Brokenstar loses some or quits? And it's not like they haven't done that before either: just look at what happened with Sunstar and Pinestar. It just feels kind of insulting that Yellowfang somehow magically attains the power to demote him on the spot yet they still let Brokenstar keep his lives for that long anyway. All of this could've been avoided if they just didn't talk to Nightpelt or explained that it was because Brokenstar hasn't lost any lives yet. At least then, if they did that, it would work with already previously established lore instead of completely forgetting about how Brokenstar lost his lives in the first place.
@KaeserLooty
@KaeserLooty 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hawkkz sorry but when Yellowfang demoted him from his lives? I always thought she just take off his last life at the end of forest of secrets
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
​@@KaeserLooty Sorry, it's been a while since I last read the first arc. You're right. I misattributed his final death to Yellowfang changing his name while he was prisoner, but he just happened to be on his last life then (even though we only saw Brokenstar die one other time during his leadership). We're not sure if this was just a coincidence, though, or if it actually worked because we don't see Brokenstar die any other time after Yellowfang demoted him to an elder. Nor do we know if Nightstar tried to ask StarClan for his lives more than once. As I said, I think they were probably purposefully loose with how this whole thing played out just so that Tigerstar could become leader in the long run anyway. Yes, at this point in the story, there was no way to get rid of a leader unless they died or quit, but, either way, if they're trying to justify Brokenstar still being leader by acting like he delivered on this "promise" or whatever and not just because he hasn't lost all of his lives yet, then that's absolutely not the right way to handle it at all given the horrible things Brokenstar has done in the past. It would've been much better off if that explanation just wasn't in this book at all.
@KaeserLooty
@KaeserLooty 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hawkkz yeah, I agree, they could have just said "sorry we can't take the leader's lives, at least for now..." And kinda foreshadowing the new rule or something. But I agree, the promise thing was bullshit
@thelanktheist2626
@thelanktheist2626 2 жыл бұрын
Which would be okay… if Sunstar didn’t make it even more convoluted. Pinestar gave his position willingly but Sunstar only got the lives he had because he ran away.
@schaefer_hund
@schaefer_hund 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I found another great WC analysis/review/discussion channel - loving your content so far! Subbed and about to ring the little bell :) The sprites look lovely, by the way, I didn't know you were able to commission sets like that,
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so, so much! And yes, you can commission sprite sets like that from certain people! My artist approached me with the offer, but it's only a matter of finding someone who's willing to help you out with it. For a price, of course.
@schaefer_hund
@schaefer_hund 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hawkkz Yeah, I've commissioned a LOT of art over the years and have never seen this category in a "menu" - I'll have to ask around, might wanna get into the battle cat discourse world myself! Anyway, yeah, great content and I look forward to seeing more in the future :)
@angie-wt5os
@angie-wt5os 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this book, but it's not memorable at all! Nightpelt is very passive, doesn't do much. The main thing differentiating him from the elders is his age. I liked how he goes from feeling useless to understanding that his disability is not a burden, but aside from a few points, like when the apprentice got hurt by the rats, the plot was pretty meh and just "we're thriving on our own!! woohoo!" the entire time. The good thing is that it's a graphic novel so it didn't take long to read at all. The scenes where blood was spilled were a surprise as well, I'm still not sure how that bypassed the restrictions.
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! That's exactly how I feel. And yeah, the scenes with the blood were pretty crazy. Those were probably my favorite parts of the book.
@bobtheball5384
@bobtheball5384 2 жыл бұрын
Man love the new sprites, so glad to hear your thoughts on this
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! ❤️
@sketchycatdash
@sketchycatdash 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny cus I was watching yt and then my Alexa gave a notification Erin hunter has a new book And those sprites are amazing!
@sweetzeyraa
@sweetzeyraa 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that was quick!! Love the talking sprites btw!
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
ikr, i busted so hard just to get this up on the same day it came out 😭 THANK YOU SO MUCH Vexnie did an absolutely AMAZING job with them!
@sweetzeyraa
@sweetzeyraa 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hawkkz that's what I like with you, you're quick to make content on the new books and that's awesome :) Oh and I'll be sure to check Vexnie's art 👀
@Bee8467
@Bee8467 2 жыл бұрын
AHH THE SPRITES ARE SO PRETTY!!! I don’t wait to be spoiled so i will come back to this video but i wanted to leave a comment!
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
RIGHT??? Also, Bee, I don't do spoilers in my reviews lol. I have spoilers sections, but you can skip them if you'd like!
@Bee8467
@Bee8467 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hawkkz oh ok! I didn’t get a chance to see that much!
@sunniwithani
@sunniwithani 2 жыл бұрын
Mild spoilers ahead! My favourite thing about this book was seeing Brightflower! She’s so pretty! Also, was Raggedstar always a Persian/flat faced? Seems kinda weird that both Yellowfang and Raggedstar are, and I could only see that coming from Kittypet blood. I know there’s a ton of incest in the clans but it weirded me out a bit when I read the Starclan scene.
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not too sure actually. This might have been his first manga appearance as far as I know.
@TheAshfurApologist
@TheAshfurApologist 2 жыл бұрын
It's gotta be a retcon, raggedstar was never depicted like that before, even on the warriors wiki, it doesn't mention his face being like that, as opposed to yellowfang, brokenstar, and brightflower, all of which are specifically mentioned and depicted with broad, flat snouts.
@TheAshfurApologist
@TheAshfurApologist 2 жыл бұрын
Wanted to mention this as well, look at raggedstar's eye color, their yellow, just like his mother featherstorm and his brother volewhisper, but they should be amber. Probably reading to much into this, but his flat snout and yellow eyes are throwing me off, keeping my eyes on the warriors wiki, incase they actually change what was originally his cannon appearance.
@Random_110
@Random_110 9 ай бұрын
⁠@@TheAshfurApologistbrokenstar dosen’t really have a completle flat snout as his offical arts features him with a non-flat snout, this would make sense since his father dosent have it either and both are similar in pelt colour and such
@TheAshfurApologist
@TheAshfurApologist 9 ай бұрын
@@Random_110 I get what you're saying, but he's described in cannon as having the same exact facial appearance as yellowfang. Even on the wiki, you can clearly notice it, while raggedstar has the more traditional pointed snout.
@goodmanticore
@goodmanticore 2 жыл бұрын
Waiting on my copy in the mail. ShadowClan is my favorite clan so this was a must-buy for me. Do you plan to read Yellowfang's Secret in the future? I thought it was worth reading. In fact it's in my top 3 favorite Warriors books. ^_^
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I do! I own every book, after all. It's only a matter of going about them in order, haha. And that can only happen once I stop procrastinating so much 🙄
@goodmanticore
@goodmanticore 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hawkkz What order are you reading them? I've been slowly catching up on the series this year in a weird order that probably only makes sense to me. XD I've made it through Omen of the Stars and Bramblestar's Storm. Next up will be the prequels for me.
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
@@goodmanticore In chronological order from The Prophecies Begin! I've finished everything leading up to the current point in the timeline and now I'm looping back around to finish up the prequels. I'm currently on Moth Flight's Vision, but I think I'm going to put that one off for just a tad bit longer so that I can revisit a book for an upcoming analysis I have planned.
@amethystwolf6242
@amethystwolf6242 2 жыл бұрын
I was really looking forward to this graphic novel, and although the art was great as usual, the story really disappointed me. Personally, if I had been in charge of writing this story, I would have made it about Nightstar's actual leadership of ShadowClan rather than how he got there. Start it off with his nine lives being rejected, then going on to how he rebuilt ShadowClan despite his secret and the looming threat of Brokenstar then Tigerstar. There are a lot of interesting moments in the first arc that could be expanded upon from his perspectice (examples: when RiverClan and ShadowClan teamed up to drive WindClan out again at the end of Fire and Ice, when ShadowClan and WindClan teamed up to raid ThunderClan with the goal of killing Brokentail in Forest of Secrets). Most of all, Nightstar's relationship with Tigerstar and how he came to trust him enough with the leadership of ShadowClan following his and Cinderfur's death during the greencough outbreak. I know, we've seen so much of Tigerstar, but he's a fun villain! Granted I haven't read Tigerclaw's Fury in a long time so that might be covered in there, but Warriors doesn't shy away from showing the same stuff through a different perspective, and the alternate media of this particular book being a graphic novel would make it different enough that I believe something like that would be worth it. I don't know, I just felt let down by this book. Here's to hope that Onestar's Confession and Sky live up to the hype (which I do believe they will, Onestar's Confession especially. So much potential!) Edit: Just looked over the Wiki page for Tigerclaw's Fury, and Nightstar's death is apparently just glossed over in the novella? Regardless, I still see potential there for an interesting story from Nightstar's perspective. Like, this new hypothetical story could end with Nightstar watching over his clan from StarClan, dread building as his clanmates call for Tigerstar to be leader. Perhaps he sees Tigerstar as almost a Brokenstar 2.0, and despairs over his clanmates making the same mistake he spent the last few moons of his life trying to fix. Not sure, but it just further deepens my disappointment to what we got in Exile from ShadowClan 🤷‍♀️
@caliscats2378
@caliscats2378 2 жыл бұрын
I mean I always get the new books and I love the art. But this one was just… cats joining Nightpelt and cats dying. The battle scenes went too quickly. But I’d recommend to any warriors fan
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@Cosmerii
@Cosmerii 2 жыл бұрын
I LOOVVVEEE how you explain stuff as always and the sprite in general! It looks amazing! Now to give my opinion with the video:. Will I get the Manga? Idk yet, most likely not even though I love collecting the Manga for Warrior cats due to the style (I love the style for it), this one just doesn't sound interesting to me personally. Glad I watched this vid before I made my choice :)
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad I was able to help you choose. I will admit though, if you collect Warrior's manga for the style, this one absolutely doesn't disappoint in terms of the art!
@Cosmerii
@Cosmerii 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hawkkz Hmmmmm, I'll definitely have to think about it! I love collecting the Manga for both the story and the art. (The art more personally cause again, LOVE the style that is used for it). I will definitely keep that thought in mind as well, definitely a difficult decision loll. Thanks again and amazing vid! :D
@emiliaromana2683
@emiliaromana2683 2 жыл бұрын
I just started the video and I need to say, your avatar (I don´t know, what it is called xD) the cat, that represents you, is really cool :) Now I am going to finish the video, but I needed to say that! xD
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! The artist did a fantastic job with them.
@Danmeilover69
@Danmeilover69 Жыл бұрын
When I heard about this coming out my first thought was "Why?" This doesn't feel like a character most people want to know more about. And the premise just sounded so boring. I felt like Yellowfangs Secret gave Nightpelt enough attention. Some characters work better as side characters rather than as main characters. There just wasn't a demand for it and I'm confused as to why this is the story the Hunters wanted to tell.
@kallistto
@kallistto Жыл бұрын
I read exile from shadowclan immediately after reading yellowfangs secret for the first time and because i read them in tandem exile from shadow clan didnt seem too bad but it definetely doesnt stand alone like the other graphic novels in the same style. Exile from shadowclan was fun by merit of it being a graphic novel and having a slightly different perspective but if not for wanting to complete my collection i wouldnt buy it- the information you gain from it feels like nothing more than suplimentary website bonus stories then a book u have to spend real life money on.
@LeoTheDowl
@LeoTheDowl 2 жыл бұрын
I love the talking sprites!!! But, I am getting the book and I will maybe love it because of my intense love of Nightstar, do you think because I love Nightstar I would like the book?
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
Probably, yeah! He’s nice boy Nightstar in this one after all.
@LeoTheDowl
@LeoTheDowl 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hawkkz Awesome! I can't wait!
@chimeraqueen716
@chimeraqueen716 2 жыл бұрын
Heya not sure if anyone else had this issue, but the audio on this one sounded very choppy and kinda laggy
@fennelfin
@fennelfin 2 жыл бұрын
The way they changed the code to be able to change leaders and then go back make that same thing a main plot point- hmm 😒
@sandcloud5010
@sandcloud5010 2 жыл бұрын
Im nervous about starting a Warroirs channel lol im very insecure
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck if you plan on doing it!
@Nutellacat
@Nutellacat 2 жыл бұрын
what if i don’t have twitter? (for the fanart)
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
Where would you prefer to send it?
@WEYffles
@WEYffles 2 жыл бұрын
Remember me when you get famous
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
Aw, thank you! I will ❤️
@InkytheAngstGxd
@InkytheAngstGxd 2 жыл бұрын
you sound like an anime protagonist- if i put the audio of a your video of yours my friend would ask what anime this is-
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, thank you! I get a surprising amount of comments along those lines.
@ahmetaktas7351
@ahmetaktas7351 2 жыл бұрын
Enthusiastic dolphin 14
@Hawkkz
@Hawkkz 2 жыл бұрын
so true...
@Rowananimations
@Rowananimations 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
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