Is The Price Justified? | Fender Tone Master Pro Review

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Fender have entered the world of modelling with the Tone Master Pro and the FR-10 & FR-12 powered cabs. Prices for the Pedal and cabs available below:
Thomann - thmn.to/thocf/wnxrunjowa
Sweetwater - sweetwater.sjv.io/GmobE2
Fender Direct - prf.hn/l/znPGMGO
The Tone Master Pro has evolved from the Tone Master amps such as my favourite, the Deluxe Reverb. This Multi FX aims to be the only one you need. How does it stack up against the Line6 Helix and the Quad Cortex? Does it suck? Well... Let's find out in this full review and demo of what Fender hope will be a huge success for them.
The Fender FR-12 however is a real star Full range cab. With Volume, EQ and a high cut control. This could be your new favourite powered cab.
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Chapters
00:00 Intro Track - How does the Fender Tone Master Pro sound in a mix?
00:48 Is the Fender Tone Master Pro good for Country Music? Chicken Pickin Preset
01:22 How good are the EVH Amps in the Fender Tone Master Pro - Running with the devil preset
01:50 Is the Fender Tone Master Pro good for John Mayer Tones? Slow Dancing in a burning room
02:29 Is the Fender Tone Master Pro good for Marshall Tones? British Crunch Preset
03:05 Is the Fender Tone Master Pro good for Mesa Boogie Tones? Wrecked OH! Preset
03:53 How good is the USB out on the Fender Tone Master Pro (Stereo)
04:38 How good is the Fender FR-12 as a powered speaker?
05:06 How to build your own patches with the Fender Tone Master Pro
10:04 How to connect your Fender Tone Master Pro
12:27 Does the Fender Tone Master Pro work well with pedals?
14:19 The Fender Tonemaster Pro has trails!
14:58 Review Roundup - What are the pros and cons of the Fender Tonemaster Pro?
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@TheGuitarGeek 9 ай бұрын

Prices for the Tone Master Pro and FRFR cabs available here: Thomann - thmn.to/thocf/wnxrunjowa Sweetwater - sweetwater.sjv.io/GmobE2 Fender Direct - prf.hn/l/znPGMGO

@giulioluzzardi7632 9 ай бұрын

With 2400 beans I could get a pro junior and a used USA Strat/Tele/LP/ junior/ SG and a delay and wah and be able to turn up anywhere that has a plug socket(230/240) and spend 2 hours playing as opposed to 2 hours drinking and banging my forehead in the wall screaming"Why did I fall for that Tech scam...again"!

@dredzik 8 ай бұрын

I would love if you could take some of the cheaper multi FX-s like Hotone Ampero (Mini / 2 Stomp / 2 Stage), Nux, Boss ME-90, Mooer, and see how they stack against things like this.

@evolv_85 9 ай бұрын

The price tag put me off immediately. There are lots and lots of toys I'd rather buy if I'm spending that kind of money.

@MelloState 9 ай бұрын

Same $1700 I saw and I just noped out. Hell you can buy a tube amp and cab for that money

@GDCDGC 9 ай бұрын

@@MelloState 1700? Wow. That's too much

@evolv_85 9 ай бұрын

@@MelloState yeah, I thought the same. You could grab an epiphone pro, a decent half stack and a couple of pedals for that money. I use an old epi, a grid spark and a wah and I can get more than enough sounds form it.

@breadnaut3087 9 ай бұрын

@@MelloState ...you literally get 100 amps for $1700 what are you even talking about? Thats $17 per amp. You are bad at math.

@proART100 9 ай бұрын

Just wait for a year. Price will definitely go down.

@michaelogden5093 9 ай бұрын

$1700 for a pedal packed full of features you'll never use past the first two honeymoon weeks. Just look at your pedal board. That's more or less what you want whether you're prepared to admit it or not.

@misterreality 9 ай бұрын

I love Fender. That said, the modeling sounds comparable to everything else out there. I wasn’t blown away, it’s not bad at all, but it’s not $1699 good. The interface looks pretty cool though, if this was 800 bucks, I’d be more into this, but 1700 isn’t a price I’d pay when I can get a Quad Cortex or kemper with years of bugs worked out and patches. Plus knowing Fenders history of abandoning Fuse software, Im very hesitant to trust Fender will be updating this unit in 3 years. I’m curious to try it, but not buy it.

@QuoVadis88 9 ай бұрын

For me, The Killer App on this unit is that the bank of dials become the controls for whatever amp or effect you bring up. They are gonna update every few months just like Boss did with the GT-1000. And on the Boss GT-1000, I like editing patches on a 32 inch monitor. I am looking forward to the Fender bass amps on the Pro. Definity a product to buy and play every day. Getting two. One for stage and one to keep at home to experiment with patches. Bugs will be worked out fast with a Fender product because there will be a million people worldwide buying Fender. Fuse died and became the fertilizer for Tone Master Pro. There are a lot of people like me that are willing to pay good money for research and development. There is a lot of R&D in the Pro. For those that do not have a modeler yet, the Pro is attractive to a guitar player who has no engineering ability or those that would rather play than read a manual.

@misterreality 9 ай бұрын

@@QuoVadis88 I’m a bit punch shy on pulling the trigger on this. I’ll stick with my QC.

@fartknockers 9 ай бұрын

It's the User Interface (UI) that is the game changer on this unit. It will open up digital modelling to more people who struggle to adapt to fiddly user experiences. This is doing the UI aspect better than the rest, whilst digital modelling is starting to become a game of diminishing returns as far as audio quality/replication is concerned.

@misterreality 9 ай бұрын

@@fartknockers right, but if the tones aren’t there, a UI is meaningless

@fartknockers 9 ай бұрын

@@misterreality Yes well it is subjective. If it doesn't sound right for your style of music then it's a no go. Have you tried Neural Amp Modeler? NAM is free and people rave about it. Emil Rohbe @Rohbemusic has created a lot of impulses from it and demos it on his KZfaq channel.

@myworms 9 ай бұрын

Sounds great, but $1700 is obscene. I’ve been very disappointed with how their pricing has become recently…

@brackendale1986 9 ай бұрын

Shareholders want their cut.

@TVsBen 9 ай бұрын

Yeah Fender is starting to remind me of another USA legacy brand, the one with the book-looking headstock.

@thiscorrosion900 9 ай бұрын

The thing is that they seem to be marketing this at pro. and live players, but most of them seem to dislike or even hate, digital modeling processors. ??? Go figure. Yet people like Billy Corgan seem to have embraced it. He would probably use this all day for rehearsals, if not for live.

@astronautsoul 9 ай бұрын

Essentially the same price as Helix, Quad Cortex, and FM9. You could argue whether or not the features are comparable, but Fender has priced it appropriately for the market they’re competing in.

@thiscorrosion900 9 ай бұрын

@@astronautsoul I see, yeah. They're all kind of high-end units, so take your pick, I suppose. If you're gonna spend that much I would try to demo them somewhere though, if possible.

@jimmyjames7946 9 ай бұрын

It sounds great! But for that price I would look at one of Dave Friedman's tube amps.

@calbrockocat8728 9 ай бұрын

They should have called it the Fender Gouge Master. $1700US is absolutley nuts for a modeller. Good review, but I see Fender not selling too many at this insane price.

@UTAH100 9 ай бұрын

Yep. This over priced toy should be under $500. I guarantee it will be 30% on Guitar Centers Used site very soon. Like it's tone and hype, it will fizz out soon. I did not hear a single patch that impressed me. Every patch on my FM9 impressed me.

@HelixLT2024 9 ай бұрын

Este producto fracasara. No lo cambio por mi Helix LT. Ademas por 500 o 600 euros hay equipos mejores y nuevos

@LeftyF2003 9 ай бұрын

You can get an awfully good tube amp for that. I've been playing with the modelling thing since it started, and it's gotten quite a bit better. That said, if you only need a single amp sound with some pedals, to my ears a good tube amp and a pedal board still sound the most authentic. If on the other hand you're covering Adrian Belew tunes where you need access to 50 different pedals and 20 different amps, something like this would be critical (and that's how Adrian gets all those sounds live these days). If I were in the market for a system like this, the Helix is already a mature product with tons of support and it's less expensive, so I'd be inclined to go with that or possibly a Kemper which is also in this price range.

@antonioduarte1335 9 ай бұрын

I guess they want to compete against Fractal FM9 (at similar price)

@MatthiasBuesing 9 ай бұрын

It's around their competitors (Fractal FM3/FM9, Neural DSP Quad Cortex etc.)...🤷🏻‍♂

@stefproton1418 9 ай бұрын

Ordered today as bundle with the FR-12, we will see but this box seems to sound really great. Thanx for your feedback and test, you've noticed some interesting points.

@waitin4winter 9 ай бұрын

This was a really great overview with your thoughts, thanks

@nxzstudio8495 9 ай бұрын

I find it very hard to justify that price tag considering the HeadrushFX Prime is in my ears sounding just as good. Only thing would be if you really want "True" fender tones

@TheGuitarGeek 9 ай бұрын

Maybe have a listen to the tones I got first

@UTAH100 9 ай бұрын

Yep. FM9 is better...or Headrush. This thing is way too expensive.r

@HelixLT2024 9 ай бұрын

Yo con mi Helix LT no la cambio por la Fender tan cara.

@Wintertop2134 9 ай бұрын

@@TheGuitarGeekthat comes across as dismissive and sell out

@user-mr1ku5iz8l 9 ай бұрын

HRP owner here. I agree. The extra features the HRP has over the TMP make the HRP a no brainer choice between the two.

@josearjona3728 9 ай бұрын

First of the 8 reviews i´ve seen that comment on some flaws or "cons", everybody else treats this like the new miracle...

@LucasMastropasqua 9 ай бұрын

Nice Vola! I just purchased a Vola Joss Allen signature model myself. Absolutely fantastic instruments. Great video as always Andy 🤘🤘🤘

@KeithGrommes 9 ай бұрын

As always, Andy a great and thorough review! I have a question. I wonder if you make changes to any of the pedals or amplifiers, if you can do a factory reset on the individual devices? this way, you could avoid doing an overall factory reset.

@harryharris1619 9 ай бұрын

This cost the same as a Fractal FM9 which I own. The FM9 is really hardcore as there are so many parameters that one can tweak. It also has a bigger footprint but the ftswtchs do not act also as control pots etc as the Fender does. But really what got my attention is the Fender frfr monitor amp. At $500 that seems fairly reasonable considering the other options on the market.

@harryharris1619 9 ай бұрын

The $500 was for the 1x10 and $549 for the 1x12 cab. Saw a review of the 1x12 compared to a QSC 8 and was not to impressed with the sound. However would have to hear them live in order to make a final judgement. Would be hard to beat my 1x12 large cab with a Celestion F12-x200 speaker but will wait and see. My cab weighs a ton at 42lbs.

@artysanmobile 3 ай бұрын

I mostly see comments from those who’ve never used a top modeling unit so have no idea what they’re talking about. But, this is KZfaq. The price is a bit bold. I’m shopping Fractal as the next step from my own custom rig and would trust Fender to be very competitive sonically so price is not a total turnoff. Every big-bucks feature is there, and then some, such as multiple routes, stereo/mono inserts. It seems like a very well conceived halo product. Fact is, touring & session players, as well as playing producers and composers can justify the learning curve and price and get along great with such a product. It’s not designed for occasional users or home players. The jury is still out. I expect Fender will hold the line on price while offering major SW additions for no charge.

@giveupbuddy 9 ай бұрын

Great review. Thanks. How would you say the quality of the amp models and IRs compare to something more reasonably priced, like the Tonex? This obviously has more capabilities, effects, loops, etc. But in terms of sound quality of the amps/IRs?

@deltafit 9 ай бұрын

Sounds great. But at the same price as a Fractal FM9...I know what I'd choose. I'll stick with my FM9

@TheCyberMantis 9 ай бұрын

If you already have an FM9, you certainly do not need the Fender TMP.

@LoganAddisMusic 3 ай бұрын

I don't usually mind "technical" things but for me, because I gig a lot I sold my FM3 because I always need to make changes on the fly and found it to be really inconvenient in a live situation. I will have my TMP next week so I'll see if I hate it lol but I think it will be great

@andsoistopped 9 ай бұрын

That reminds me - I need to update my HX Stomp. I’m not surprised by the price. It’s Fender so that contributes, but it also has the potential to work for a singer/guitarist. I think that’s a big plus. It all comes down to how they handle support and updates.

@Steven_SK 9 ай бұрын

Nice job with the review.... as usual!

@blairmichaelhogan4502 9 ай бұрын

That FRFR cab is very interesting to me. Had no idea it was coming out and I’ve been looking for a better powered monitor to use with my UA Dream. It looks like an amp, and has a high cut knob. Those two features nudge it above the competition in my eyes!

@24-7Guitars 9 ай бұрын

It seems playing it through the powered speaker helps the tone a lot. The country and Mayerish tones sounded good. Well done😎🎸👍

@castleanthrax1833 9 ай бұрын

The frfr speaker is 1,000 watts too. I guess they want enough power to cover all possibilities.

@UTAH100 9 ай бұрын

Try Fractal- no comparison. Same or less $$$ to boot.

@comicsrcool5483 9 ай бұрын

I think you hit the nail on the head. The price is what will kill this. There are too many other choices out there and Fenders big thing is what it always is "Dont our FENDER amps sound great?!" They also seem to wimp out on the Voxes and Marshalls and other high gain items(The fact EVH sounds good and they have a connection with the EVH brand is not shocking.

@michaelcowdroy9150 9 ай бұрын

Of ALL the guitar shop channels and others reviewing this product - GG is always the first choice for a proper review, love this channel

@NewEii 9 ай бұрын

Can't wait to see how does it go with IR. Hope it will be a game changing like 2nd/3rd helix patch. Thanks for your review!

@lance134679 9 ай бұрын

I think digital modeling technology is far enough along that whether you like the sound of a particular unit's models is that of personal taste more than quality. Being Fender, I know they'll nail Fender and EVH amps to a tee, and the effects seem pretty good, too. As for the price, we're definitely paying the "Fender tax", but it seems pretty easy to use and solidly built. Thanks for the demo.

@parkerg1000 7 ай бұрын

That Fender tax? I just did a ton of research on all of these units in this area and it is right on par with its competitors. Just say you dont know anything about this area and move on.

@dennisdelaney9142 8 ай бұрын

For me, the question is whether it’s worth selling my tone master deluxe reverb and line 6 pod go and replacing those with the new tone master pro and FR 12. That would bring the expense down a lot but would I be better off?

@andyashby 9 ай бұрын

Your style and commentary on this product was the most informative and straight forward of any I have seen. Thx for your easy to understand analysis!

@Jean-Chri.Brixhe 9 ай бұрын

May I ask you what's this Jazzmaster type guitar on the wall behind you? Went through the channel but didn't find anything so far about that particular one...

@DaringDan 9 ай бұрын

Thing's awesome. I found that as a bedroom only player, Tonex on my PC is the only thing I need for 1/4 the price. If I gigged I'd get something like this or a Kemper.

@GrayGhostDog1 9 ай бұрын

... I maybe more like some people who WOULD NOT want to turn on or use a PC every time I want to play my electric guitar.

@DaringDan 9 ай бұрын

@@GrayGhostDog1 That's why I said, "I". Didn't want to speak for anyone else. On a similar note you can get the Tonex pedal which is the same 400 bucks as the software if you don't want the PC everytime.

@GrayGhostDog1 9 ай бұрын

@@DaringDan gotcha. Yes, I do like IK Multimedia’s offerings… especially for the price. This option appears to be offering use cases for the bedroom player, project studio, gigging musician, etc. You don’t need the pedal or frfr speaker to utilize it, but it’s excellent that they are available… a more complete solution. The UI looks good and easy to use… my only negative I think I’ve noticed is that there are no models for BASS GUITAR. Other competitors include a few…

@PhilWilliams3 6 ай бұрын

Great video. Any comment regarding FR12 Hiss Issue?

@andrewmorgan1640 9 ай бұрын

Love the interactions with the amp on the touch screen, and the tones you were getting sound great. Ill have to clear some space on my desk next to the FM3, QuadCortex and Kemper. When are you going to try a gig with it mate?

@aj81ds 9 ай бұрын

Curious, what brand is that SG style guitar being played during the FR demo?

@GS-uy4xo 9 ай бұрын

The sounds and features we are getting today are really good from almost every product - not sure what will separate one from another, but a high price isn’t a draw.

@SirPraiseSun 9 ай бұрын

this 1 has the least amps and cabs out of all professional quality multi pedals 27 amps.... we will see if they update with 20 more or so

@Turbo-D 9 ай бұрын

using leo fenders name always means pricey so let's wait and see how it will perform against the competition

@HelixLT2024 9 ай бұрын

Este producto fracasara.

@grumpyrocker 9 ай бұрын

Great video as ever. You may not need an expression with a toe switch. On my HX Stomp you can set a pedal range that turns the effect on, so just moving the pedal slightly forward engages the wah. And then it has a pause time so it won't switch off right away when pulling the pedal back. Maybe this Fender can do that?

@TheGuitarGeek 9 ай бұрын

Oh that’s a great thought! If it can’t do that, I’m sure fender could and should implement it!

@wesrowe8732 8 ай бұрын

How did you find the hiss on that FR12?

@diatonica 9 ай бұрын

Hello First of all, thank you for another excellent review. I am interested in the following. Since I have a Mustang GTX 100 and am a studio producer, is it worth buying Tone Master Pro for sounds? Does Tone master really have that much better presets and sounds if I record directly in DAW from XLR?

@TheGuitarGeek 9 ай бұрын

Hey! I would definitely recommend trying it. The mustang, while being great, does not have the quality and depth of sound that these higher power units have. You could also try plugins such as tonex or helix native or the neural dsp stuff and that would get “better” Results than the mustang

@OutstandingBill1 9 ай бұрын

That's an amazing piece of gear. Well out of my price range, sadly. Thanks for demoing it for us!

@TheGuitarGeek 9 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

@ANDI3niable 9 ай бұрын

Can't wait to see how this handles IR. Regarding the price, Neural sent an email about dropping the msrp for the quad cortex by like £300. I'm wondering if they also anticipated this release.

@flashbak01 9 ай бұрын

You can bet on it!

@liedgitarrist 9 ай бұрын

Thevinternal cabs are already IRs. All of them

@alien4422 8 ай бұрын

Yes, the fact that they can lower the price by so much at the drop of a hat shows that they have been taking buyers for mugs by keeping a high price after the covid shortage. So I guess we can thank Fender for the Quad Cortex price drop.

@ElmanAuthement 9 ай бұрын

Great review. I have a Helix Floor so I'm not interested in buying something new but it seems to be really user friendly.

@urbanebicycler2173 9 ай бұрын

Is the microphone block adds effects or more importantly does it have Antares-like capabilities?

@rumy6871 9 ай бұрын

Andy, thank you for showing us this new Fender modeling unit. I bought one and your video helped me get started. Might you help us further by demonstrating how to mount it to a pedalboard? PS if one visits the right store, one may not have to pay the full sticker price.

@dalepal 9 ай бұрын

The Fender Tone Master Pro sounds really good though there are many options from competitors at the price point. I’m leery of buying a modeling unit that expensive after Fender discontinued support for the Mustang III/IV/V V.2 series.

@UTAH100 9 ай бұрын

Smart man...if that is your pronoun. LOL. Fender should stick to guitars. Fractal FM9 is far better.

@dylano6033 9 ай бұрын

I wasn't aware of those Fender FRFR cabs before and I have to say I was more impressed by them than the Tone Master Pro. Now I'm not saying the TMP sounded bad, because it didn't. It sounded great and that's with minimal tweaking, which is impressive. The main concern that I have is whether or not Fender will continue to support it for years to come. One of the most enticing things about modellers like this is that they do continue to improve over the lifecycle of the product. At €1900 it's not cheap.

@atomiccocoanut2596 8 ай бұрын

i think this piece of kit is a game changer for a hobby player like myself. there's so many things about this product that make it fantastic for a bedroom/office headphone guitar player

@benjamingilmore825 9 ай бұрын

Can you use it as a multi effects unit without the amp and cabinet models? Can you go straight into a PA or interface, ie does it have cab sims? Thanks so much

@BrandonMilner 9 ай бұрын

Of course. Just don’t add an amp or cab. In fact some of the presets are just effects boards.

@cjhenry41 9 ай бұрын

The is great. You know what I think would be great and make your show even better? More episodes where you bring on Emily from Get Offset. The episode you did with her had a great vibe and you two were pretty funny together. I think you'd start cross driving subscribers additions. Very positive comments on her discord from people about your show. You know your stuff, she knows her stuff, and neither of you are shills. Boss Katana owner here, bought it after seeing your episodes on it. Thanks.

@grahamaldridge 9 ай бұрын

I’d certainly like to spend some time getting to know one.

@alanpatterson9937 9 ай бұрын

I purchased a BOSS GX100 and after seeing this. I want to upgrade!!!

@akwamarsunzal 9 ай бұрын

1) Andy, this demo is spot on, as usual! You and some weird German bloke with animals always knock it out of the ark with demons! 2) Listening to the tones, though my laptop with quality headphones, it is utter crap, sorry! Fender, late to the party, with a stupid expensive offering, yeah, typical Fender! So many better products out there for way less than half this pile of poo! So happy to watch your videos Andy... Roll on the weekend for Gear of the Week!

@RobertFisher1969 9 ай бұрын

I do find it really tempting. But what a really want is a smaller (and more affordable) unit that just has the Deluxe Reverb model, one effects loop, cabsim, DI, and headphone out. I’m hoping this is just the flagship, and we get more products in the line over time.

@AlexGauthier 9 ай бұрын

Man... This just made my decision a lot harder. Was debating Helix and Headrush Prime... and now this. Thanks for a useful video though!

@AmericanNationalist852 9 ай бұрын

Fractal FM9 for the win

@UTAH100 9 ай бұрын

LOL- Helix is BETTER and Fractal FM9 is MUCH better than both. I bought one.

@astrodadmusic 9 ай бұрын

Even though you couldn’t get the British sounds you were digging for, I think all the different tones sounded great and usable. Then again, I was listening on an old Panasonic AM radio.

@tiiimmmaaayyyy3616 8 ай бұрын

What was the 2nd guitar? I like the look fo that.

@robertclarkguitar 9 ай бұрын

I went in thinking this is expensive as fender is known. But, i am impressed. Perhaps ill get one years later on a discount. Absolutely cool.

@basicforge 9 ай бұрын

Nice review. I just bought a ToneX and while it sounds great I am displeased that it doesn't have an easy and modern touchscreen UI. On the subject of easy, one less recent line of multi-effects units that are super easy to use are the Zoom G3, G3X, and G5 units. Amazingly easy to use, all-metal construction, and they can be purchased for barely more than $100, oh and they have balanced out XLR jacks.

@breadnaut3087 9 ай бұрын

That reason alone is why the Tonemaster will be the king of this mountain soon. User friendly is what old people want.

@breadnaut3087 9 ай бұрын

And old people have the money to spend.

@basicforge 9 ай бұрын

@@breadnaut3087 Everybody wants user friendly. ;)

@jakajarc 9 ай бұрын

Too expensive for me for now, but if you think about the tone master range, those aren't cheap either, and you basically get all of them with this and a couple of fr12. So thinking about selling some of my amps and pedals just makes me uncomfortable, it took a while to assemble my fleet, but if it works well, this takes less space. I'll have to try one first to be sure. Also I like that you can fix amps, if they fail; this is probably not something that you can get fixed easily, should it break. Maybe with a liftime no questions asked replace guarantee I'd get one sooner.

@pdbordelon 6 ай бұрын

Ive had my Fender TMP for about two weeks now. Was afraid to watch this video but now know that any criticisms are minor in the great scheme of things. The TMP is fantastic, not perfect, but poised, with a few firmware updates, to be the best modeler out there.

@largeeng 9 ай бұрын

I am another that has had their interest increased by the matching powered speaker. Being able to have a complete system, and I see there is a dedicated expression pedal available, makes it very attractive to those of us who have a phobia for new tech. I am pretty old school in my rig, valve amp, pedal board but I've noticed that my pedal board is becoming bigger and heavier, my amp is becoming a chore to carry ( 2x 12 pro reverb), so a setup like this seems an absolute boon. However, my concerns would be 1. Reliability, probably no more or less than what I have. 2. Product support going forward, I would like to think that 10 years from now that updates will still be coming and also from a repair standpoint as well, if it develops a fault I don't throw it away. 3. And lastly the buy in cost is a little daunting for someone like me who basically plays for fun (even though I have many times this already invested in gear), I would need assurance on the first 2 items before dropping 2K+ on a new rig. But it has definitely tweaked my interest, I shall do more research, in fact possibly a visit to a large UK retailer this afternoon to see in person, (I only need a couple of new leads lol).

@TheGuitarGeek 9 ай бұрын

I think you’re being really sensible here. I agree with everything you’ve said. If you like fender sounds, this is a great option. It needs a little work to do more classic Marshall tones but I’m sure I’ll get there. I will be testing it in a band soon

@cestusfr 9 ай бұрын

Mind you, the last time i touched a guitar was in the mid to late 90's best i got was a DOD Tec 8. This here is just mind bending to me. Makes me want to go back to play guitar. (i am a bass player)

@DeathPenny 9 ай бұрын

I want to check one out - this seems to be a helix with a much more intuitive UI -and rotary switches from the Quad cortex - it's slick - I am surprised they didn't include an option for profiling - it would have been perfect. - I am concerned fender will be selling feature updates for additional amps - I just don't think Fender likes the idea of giving away their future amps for free - one thing I can say about line6 for sure, 8 years and still getting meaningful updates and they are still adding tweaks and features to make it better. - amazing, gotta love'em for it. Honestly the fender is almost what I would have expected from Line6 for a Helix 2.0, though I think they would have included profiling. Either way I would love to give this thing a try - but 1700 bucks is an expensive test drive. Need to see more reviews from folks that didn't receive the item for free (No offense intended there)

@garyoneill5648 9 ай бұрын

This is a slick piece of kit. Now has it knocked off qc…it’s close but I think they’ve overpriced it…qc is proven on the tour stage and has plenty of brand endorsers. To come in above the industry standard just because of the fender brand, I will hold judgement until I play one this market is already full of accomplished units. Plus!!! Fuzz friendly big pro! Con - what of captures of your own gear? Another unit? or are we looking at only tonemaster models Great job Andy😊👏🏻

@aprilkurtz1589 9 ай бұрын

I'm not a pedal person, the only one I use is a Sovtek Big Muff. It's simple. Three dials. But I'm really intrigued by this pedal thingy as you said it's intuitive, which so many pieces of music technology are not, which is why I'm not a pedal person. It's a little pricey for me, but I could see it being really useful for a pro musician. Also, that little cabinet/combo amp sounds great! Do you know who the speakers are made by? Peace out, Andy! P.S. I'm learning about making pedals so I can make The Hydra, which is a copy of a pedal you demoed last year(?).

@hellbillygoatboy 9 ай бұрын

I’m too old. I like my tone master twin and UA pedals,maybe but I cant keep up. Lol Cheers! Great show and honest too. Nice one Andy.😊

@Sushi_Overdose 7 ай бұрын

No one on youtube seems to try the fuzz effects and to me, those are the one badly emulated on these machines. Also, how does it react if you plug your favorite fuzz in it ? It seems that the touchscreen isn't reacting quickly, like the ones on our phones right ? But I'm really interested in that unit !

@user-mr1ku5iz8l 9 ай бұрын

Can it do amp & pedal profiling? For the price it better.

@1Rockstok 7 ай бұрын

I’m with you regarding waiting for the firmware. I would add that IMHO, nothing ever sounds the same on stage as it does at home which would mean lots of bending down on one knee during the gig to tweak settings, a deal killer for a person who does a lot of singing on gigs. Even so, I would not want the knobs to be separate from the footswitches creating another part of the TMP. Also, I’m interested in clean sustain and no one seems to demo the TMPs capabilities for that. Does it have an original Ross compressor?

@Fergieguitar 9 ай бұрын

You hit the nail for me, singing and playing, I'd hit the wrong button or hit 2 at the same time. €1700 would easily get me 3 used valve amps, maybe not as versatile but fun

@breadnaut3087 9 ай бұрын

So youd rather have 3 amps instead of 100 amps? Please explain your logic.

@Fergieguitar 9 ай бұрын

@@breadnaut3087 my logic is, after over 30 years, I know what I like, I've had modellers or multi FX for years from early Digitech, to rack stuff, line 6 etc and always managed great tones but I seem to use just 1 or 2 sounds, even with my katana, clean, crunch, high gain and same high gain with a longer delay...now I take an amp, wah, phaser and boss sd1 for a gig. This looks a great tool but for me, overkill

@MrChopsticktech 9 ай бұрын

@@Fergieguitar I don't have 30 years of experience (about 28) and I know what I like. Multi-effects units and just about any amp with a good clean tone. My Digitech stuff seems to last forever, I got my first one, an RP-! brand new in 1994. Still works fine.

@Fergieguitar 9 ай бұрын

@@MrChopsticktech went from RP7 to 2120artist rack gear, rp500 and still got an rp1000, it's an amazing bit of kit even today. But again, never used more than 3 or 4 settings. But great kit

@donaldgravelyn9175 2 ай бұрын

For me the most important question- can you use a Marshall on the left and say EVH on the right output? Two separate paths with different amps?

@jwstout007 9 ай бұрын

I think they’ll sell more tone master FRFR cabs than the pedals, even though I think the pedal is quite intuitive. I use those Headrush FRFR 108’s from time to time & I wish the Headrush units were a bit more intuitive & cooler looking. I’d be curious to see what vocal processing is available on the Tone Master (auto tune, harmonizer, etc…) and how it measures up to the Headrush Prime / Core that both recently came out at lower price points. Entertaining review as always, Andy!

@BrandonMilner 9 ай бұрын

No autotune.

@Bat_Dad_116 2 ай бұрын

People complaining about the price but for those of us who are restarting (or just starting) our gear journey, that’s a heck of a deal. 1700 for all you get is awesome. It’s also awesome for what you don’t get, like a few hundred pounds of wood and metal to lug around to performances and practice. I see people saying “ you could get a tube amp and a cab for that money…” yeah? And? lol this is an amp, and a cab. So you can buy a “better” amp and cab… there’s your 1700, now drop another few hundred or another grand on pedals. No thank you.

@riona42 9 ай бұрын

I'm really excited about the Tone Master Pro, even though it's not for me (I'm definitely a Quad Cortex girl). It seems to be a very approachable solution into multi effects/modelers for a lot of people and that is amazing ^^ The price is high, but if (and that is an important IF) Fender keep supporting it, it seems like it might be worth it.

@AngelMartinez-qs3cf 9 ай бұрын

These sounds are really nice, and I am a Fender fan, but I think you should do a shoot-out between this and the Headrush Prime.

@TheGuitarGeek 9 ай бұрын

I wish I could but I don't have a headrush Prime.

@AngelMartinez-qs3cf 9 ай бұрын

@@TheGuitarGeek Oh ok, I thought a music store loan it to you for comparison. Shane from the In the Blues Channel does that then he returns it. Thanks anyway.

@rumy6871 9 ай бұрын

Fyi, with the firmware update, there's a Silver Jubilee amp available. It is a delightful British crunch. Also, you can adjust the display brightness.

@KoaCharvel 9 ай бұрын

Not for me....yet. I am pretty happy with my pedalboard and BossIR200 and Laney 1x12 FRFR

@castleanthrax1833 9 ай бұрын

Yeah. I'm not sure what I'd do with 1,000 watts.

@scottybrowndotca 8 ай бұрын

That was an extremeley fair eval when it comes down to the price .. This is the third review I've watched and both of the others were like "THIS IS AMAZING ..!!" with no mention of price .. So I punched it up and we're looking at about $2,400 in Canada .. If I was a gigging musician doing all kinds of covers in different styles I would be quite interested, especially like you say, with firmware updates .. However at that price I could buy and mod two telecasters, grab a couple of cool pedals and a six pack of beer to enjoy while I muck around

@hillarylarson4780 9 ай бұрын

I’m a pretty new guitar player and have a Matribox ii pedal that can do quite a bit so, for me, while this looks super cool, I wouldn’t be able to take advantage of anything other than as a hobbyist but hopefully the price will drop when I get good!

@prashanta.shrestha 9 ай бұрын

I'll hang on to my Helix

@fergusmccool Ай бұрын

Is there a red knob Twin?

@tigertuft 9 ай бұрын

Hello, luddite here. I'll be sticking with my small tube amp and a few pedals. Even if I could afford this I'd be overcome with choice paralysis and would spend more time tinkering than playing!

@TheGuitarGeek 9 ай бұрын

Then I URGE you to try one if you see one in the wild. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.

@nedludd3641 9 ай бұрын

I guess you can't hook it up to the existing tone master amp combo?

@UTAH100 9 ай бұрын

It has an effects loop so yep.

@justmehere6094 9 ай бұрын

I do think the Powered FRFR might sell to existing users of it's Competition though.

@leocguitar 9 ай бұрын

The price is crazy, I honestly think the Headrush Prime is more complete

@LivinginLosAngeles-re5yx 9 ай бұрын

Way more complete! This is a modeler only for $1700! 😮

@Anywherestudios 9 ай бұрын

Sounds fabulous to me. Is Headrush not a competitor?

@sebastianwei7721 9 ай бұрын

Interesting, great review! Waiting for a discount probably 😅

@Ray-Angel 9 ай бұрын

I'm a huge Fender fan. But I've been using a Boss Katana for the past year or so and I'm very happy with my sound. I'd like to see a shootout between the Tone Master and a Katana.

@czechplastik 9 ай бұрын

The Fender Tone Master amps blow Katana out of the water. I've owned both, Katana is great but a distant second.

@Ray-Angel 9 ай бұрын

@@czechplastik I plugged into a 1964 Fender Baseman for 15 years. I know how good Fender amps sound and I feel good about the sounds I'm getting from my Katana. If this unit is that much better then a shootout would prove it. But I'm certainly not going to pay that much just for a Fender label.

@czechplastik 9 ай бұрын

@@Ray-Angel you're right, a shoot out would settle it. Can only comment on my personal experience, as of course you are doing also. I'd be very interested to see all of the side by side comparisons when they arrive. Will certainly be enlightening. I just feel like a lot of people are slating this without trying it or saying it's too expensive when they aren't in the market for a digital modelling platform in the first place. It's like saying a BMW M5 is too expensive when your budget is for a Dacia.

@HelixLT2024 9 ай бұрын

Fender va a patinar por culpa del precio. Se han pasado. Aun bajarla a la mitat me lo pensaria porque la Helix LT suena increible y lleva pedal de expresion

@davidraymond8994 8 күн бұрын

I am thinking of returning my Helix LT for this as it seems to be a much more updated unit. I think the navigation will be faster for Helix but I do like the sound of the Fender sounds like it is less tweaking to get great sounds out of it. I am new to modeling so any advice would be awesome. The price is a bit much considering Cortex/FM9 seem to be the top shelf units and that is the same price for them. However, one positive is Fender TM Pro is sold through Guitar-Center/Musician's friend which are offering financing which I need :).

@richarde3378 9 ай бұрын

This looks awesome! Take my money, Fender!

@diggersid456 9 ай бұрын

you can change mic and mic postion which might help with the crunch tone

@Sea_Jay 9 ай бұрын

I mean, compared to a Helix, I think it's over priced and doesn't offer the number of options/amp/pedals. The Helix is a very mature platform and I have a gut feeling, that there will be a response to this from other brands including from Line 6. If we think Fender nailed it (and they may have) I think what is being worked on behind the scenes from others is going to blow our mind. Now what I think this is great for... It's going to nail every Fender tone spot on. So if you look at it like getting every Fender amp for $1700, that's not a horrible deal. No one is going to do a Fender tone better than Fender if we are being honest. So I think it has a place. Just not for me at this price.

@paulschlachter4313 9 ай бұрын

I love my HX Stomp. But there is stuff that the Helix can't do that this thing can: footswitch rotary dials, touch screen, visual presentation of models on screen. Things are getting rougher for L6 - Fender is a serious contender.

@Abellyisforjelly 9 ай бұрын

Exactly Paul. This is why I pulled the trigger on the tone master pro. It’s great! Worth the price for me

@lyleanderson5407 9 ай бұрын

Why is it TC Electronics G System added a power section for your pedals but none of these costly modelers have that simple feature? Also I agree the switches are too close. Seriously I don't even own a G System anymore but they got the pedal right, and the power sections was a big help. Everything else is awesome and kudos to Fender! Sadly I need to sit this one out for 2 reasons: (1)No power section for external pedals and (2) the switches are too close. Great Demo you earned my subscription!

@tonyevans9999 9 ай бұрын

Hmmm, but does it doom. Very good even handed review, even if you're pretty much scrolling through the menu, as I would with anything like this. Ultimately the challenge is as you say, the ongoing tech support from Fender. It's not comparable to an old tube amp that's seemingly never going to die, these are computers that are technologically redundant the day of release, that should be an assumption going in, just like you assume the tones should be at the point where they sound generally "good", and not just close enough for rock and roll. Being able to plug your pedal board into it is something everyone else appears to have missed, so props, I think for a lot of people that's important

@kerryhirsch9705 9 ай бұрын

Whens it coming out?

@DavidMadeira29 9 ай бұрын

Still sounds like the Zoom with a bit more of display power outage, because of color. Worth it? I still feel it distant...

@TheGuitarGeek 9 ай бұрын

hahahaha

@Abellyisforjelly 9 ай бұрын

Worth the price… I like it much better than the helix. Got it yesterday, spent 3 hours with it. 10 minutes in, I was mind blown

@basiltiffani8850 9 ай бұрын

What is digital fizz?

@TheGuitarGeek 9 ай бұрын

it's a cheap cider that I used to drink when I was about 16

@AmericanNationalist852 9 ай бұрын

It's a digial tinnyness/breakup you can hear from a lot of sims or modelers in the high/low ends respectively. A cut on the cab around 4-6k in the highs and 80-120 in the lows takes care of it. If most people knew that, more people would be getting into the modeler world, I think. This modeler kinda sucks though, FM9 or Helix all the way still. Ill never go back to analog amps, cabs, and pedals

@basiltiffani8850 9 ай бұрын

@@TheGuitarGeek great and totally unexpected answer, lol

@UTAH100 9 ай бұрын

It is not good.

@jasonleaman. 9 ай бұрын

I'm going to give it 6 months to a) see where the price settles - I'm guessing we'll see it drop down to around £1400 in line with QCs rumoured price cut b) See what the attitude towards updates turns out to be, and c) I've got to buy Christmas presents for my kids. By the way, does anyone know if there's a built in looper. Sorry if I've missed that bit of info, but it hasn't been demoed as far as I know.

@BrandonMilner 9 ай бұрын

Yes. There’s a built in looper. And QC price cut just happened. It’s the same price as this in the USA

@timothyclay3668 9 ай бұрын

I think it's £1499 at andertons and gear for music

@spada60 9 ай бұрын

you'll be surprised at what update are coming for this modeler know it first hand

@jasonleaman. 9 ай бұрын

OK@@spada60 - Not sure why you would know before anyone else about this, but Ok.

@MrJingles021 9 ай бұрын

I hope they add more amps. But they said it took months for them to properly get the EVH, so new amps would be a lot of work.

@M2Mil7er 9 ай бұрын

I'd recently bought a Line 6 HX Stomp, and when I saw this I was like "maybe I should've waited..." but then I saw the price felt much better about my decision.