Is the Ruger Mini-14 Obsolete?
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Күн бұрын@JamesReeves asks: Is the Mini-14 obsolete? The Ruger Mini-14 was introduced FIFTY years ago by Ruger. Developed by Bill Ruger and Jim Sullivan, two of the engineering greats, the Ruger Mini-14 was a so-so rifle when it was invented, and most people believe that it lagged behind as the AR-15 caught on with civilian shooters. But many of you don't know that there have been multiple changes to the Mini-14 - BIG changes - that have increased its effectiveness. But in this day and age dominated by the AR, is the Mini-14 still practical to own? We look at reliability, durability, accuracy, and more in today's video.
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Contents:
0:00 Intro
1:35 Terminal Performance
2:34 Reliability
6:30 Durability
7:39 Accuracy
11:03 Parts & Accessories
14:27 Monetary Cost
15:31 Conclusion
16:12 Clint Smith's Opinion
18:11 Outro
@drrhino4938 11 ай бұрын
I am a metallurgist. Your question about casting vs forging is a good one. Typically forging is stronger than casting. Ruger uses investment casting which is a superior casting method. Ruger is also very good at it, and I have seen the process personally and that's all I can say about that. Aerospace uses investment casting for a lot of things. Yes forging in general is better than casting but the Ruger investment cast is better than a bad forging, and believe me there are a lot of bad forgings. The question shouldn't be which is better, it should be is it good enough for the application. Compromises are made every day in manufacturing. In this case I would have no issue relying on an investment casting from Ruger. No I do not work for them, and Yes castings can fail, but so can forgings and billets.
@chrissmalley83 11 ай бұрын
All else being equal, a forging is stronger than a casting, but if its designed as a casting, forging it adds unnecessary cost. A good engineer will make it as strong as it needs to be with the materials and processes being used. By all accounts, Bill Ruger was a good engineer, and his legacy continues at the company bearing his name.
@drrhino4938 11 ай бұрын
@@chrissmalley83 agreed 👍
@wldn9055 11 ай бұрын
You're so cool man, thanks for the good info.
@jodyspencer433 11 ай бұрын
Let's not forget that Ruger was first and foremost, an investment casting company, and still are today 👍
@DickCheneyXX 11 ай бұрын
It was good enough, making the part heavier to compensate isn't anymore.
@top6ear 11 ай бұрын
When i was a kid i saw 3 guys with mini 14s shoot from a black and red van at a jeep, the jeep exploded and flipped end over end.
@richardhouvener6423 11 ай бұрын
And one of them stuck his head out the window and yelled "I pity the fool!"
@juncho1977 11 ай бұрын
And the guys in the Jeep all got out and ran away, right?
@tracybetts9616 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, yeah, I remember that! Man that was a great movie! I can’t remember the name though…..😮😅😅😅 Just kidding buddy 😁
@johncasteel8002 11 ай бұрын
I love it when a plan comes together…
@trailerparkhomestead9937 11 ай бұрын
This is true. I saw it myself.
@johneden2033 11 ай бұрын
I think at this point in the game, if it's a semiautomatic rifle that goes bang more often than not and is 3 MOA or better, it is completely adequate for anything you might possibly use it for.
@TheIslandExpat 7 ай бұрын
Well said. And a lot of people would be extremely less stressed out if they'd read your comment a couple times.
@SigmaSheepdog 5 ай бұрын
Yep!
@tufelhunden5795 4 ай бұрын
People forget 3 MOA meets military requirements, at least on the M16A2.
@IIDASHII 3 ай бұрын
@@tufelhunden5795 I haven't forgotten at all. I just also haven't forgotten that studies incate a 20,000+ rounds-to-kill ratio for our military...
@IIDASHII 3 ай бұрын
Other than doming groundhogs on the ranch, which is what the mini is billed for. 3 MOA is trash precision. Literally the difference between a clean kill or not for most of my applications.
@mlimbolimbo 11 ай бұрын
I have a Mini-14 Ranch Rifle made in 1986. I polished the trigger and shimmed the gas block to tame it down and I'm getting 2 MOA accuracy. In 2019 the extractor cracked. I called Ruger and they sent me the kit to replace the extractor and other bolt parts free of charge. They even offered to do the work at the factory, but I chose to do it myself. You can't beat that for service. As far as dependability, the only failure I've ever experienced (aside from the cracked extractor) was when firing ammo that had not been properly crimped. Getting a bullet jammed in the barrel is some scary schnizzle. I will never buy gun show reloads again. Thanks for the videos.
@stephaniehawkins409 4 ай бұрын
Do you have 2 friends. And a van?
@marklewis2906 11 ай бұрын
You don't get a mini14 because it's better than an AR, you get it because it's cooler than an AR, and that's what really matters.
@Davidow1 2 ай бұрын
Indeed. The AR platform is GREAT for a lot of things but it sure ain't pretty compared to a lot of others.
@OtroDiamierda 2 ай бұрын
Hell yes!!
@williamwood9942 2 ай бұрын
Right... The "cool factor" has nothing to do with the fact that the AR platform singly represents more than 11% of all the firearms in circulation in the US. Just what is it with those AR's ??? They're so uncool !?!?!?!🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂
@mayorwest3265 2 ай бұрын
@williamwood9942 plentiful does not equal cool. There are more Honda civics on the road than corvettes, does that mean corvettes aren't cool?
@adamcarter4947 2 ай бұрын
@@williamwood9942 I love my AR. It's my go to rifle for "oh shit" situations. But the Mini 14 is so much cooler and way more fun to shoot dude lol
@ivanrodriguez8966 11 ай бұрын
My hunting buddy was a range master at a California state prison. He told me that he had several mini 14s in the armory that the officers qualified with that had over two hundred thousand documented rounds through them. I've had mine for over 20 years, and I can't remember ever having any problems with it.
@sunlight-sky151 11 ай бұрын
200,000 rounds my ass, the rifle would end up a smooth bore at that point.
@StupidAnon-gn8ih 11 ай бұрын
@@sunlight-sky151 I have no doubt that that many rounds had gone through those rifles. . . I also have no doubt that those rifles underwent regular maintenance, including the changing out of failing parts, like barrels, and that Mini-14 accuracy in general wouldn't be considered a 'problem' for officer qualification.
@chadjones7722 11 ай бұрын
you nailed it, just more fudd lore. @@sunlight-sky151
@Nightdiver20 11 ай бұрын
@sunlight-sky151 which is probably accurate enough for shooting into the exercise yard
@Northeastbaseball 10 ай бұрын
Most DOC'S seem to keep Mini 14's in their armories.
@ronwheeler1400 10 ай бұрын
I'm from Canada and thoroughly enjoy you videos and reviews. I have always wanted to own a Mini 14, since watching our local Tactical Team use them. A couple of years ago, I sold off many of long guns with the intention of stocking my locker with a handful of really good weapons. Mini was on the list. Then the Canadian government decided the Mini was an assault weapon and banned it before I could purchase one.😢 it will forever be one of my dream long guns.
@biggusdickus1613 10 ай бұрын
Gotta come to the US
@siegfriedhorner4436 9 ай бұрын
You live in a beautiful country. But either vote out your restrictive, totalitarian government, or move to a freer country (although the threat exists for them too).
@andyleotell 9 ай бұрын
FJT again!
@Lord_Fried 5 ай бұрын
Vote out Castro
@alexmaurice4274 4 ай бұрын
U can top load the mini right l guys? Ik not a big deal but I think it’s a cool af feature
@frankb6845 11 ай бұрын
I’ve owned quite a few dating back to the late 1980’s. Owned Ranch versions early ones. Then when the Tactical came out I bought one in 5.56 and shot it a lot. As I was raised shooting M1, M1 carbines and M1A’s I’m much better with it than any of the AR’s I own. I traded all my older Mini’s for the newer versions in 7.62x39 and 300 blackout. So now the stable in I own three AR’s and 5 mini’s. Along with a M1 carbine and a couple of springfield M1A Socom. But then again I was raised on a farm and once you know how to use tools buy the best ones you can afford and maintain them. That’s why most of my pistols are not polymer but metal also. But I’m a older guy who still likes 70’s and 80’s rock and country and drives a 20 year old truck. Oh and my truck gun is a Marlin 1894C in 357 mag. 🤠🇺🇸👍
@burtonkephart6239 6 ай бұрын
Raised in the country as well and prefer all metal pistols too!! I have 2 m1 carbines , 2 minis ( 556, 300 BO) and one AR 15 in 300 BO. Love the action on these minis ! They are just simple and easy to use . 😊
@davek5027 11 ай бұрын
I have thought for decades that Magpul NEEDS to start selling Mini-14 magazines. C’mon, Magpul!
@DrunkenPirate83 11 ай бұрын
Thermold makes the best polymer Mini-14 magazine. Everyone seems to forget they exist, but they are half the price and run great
@kylebauer-hk2ry 2 ай бұрын
Agreed
@georgemoore3304 11 ай бұрын
I’ve got a SS made in 1984. 100% reliable and 2 MOA. I’ve got a 2020 Ranch that I’d describe the exact same way. I use 55 Grain ammo in both. Glad to see the Mini 14 get some respect!
@johnnymontalvo5620 11 ай бұрын
This kind of review is especially great for people in restricted states, like MA, CA, or NY, where rifle options are limited.
@adamcarter4947 2 ай бұрын
The mini 14 is the best option for states that don't allow the AR platform imo.
@ramonfernandez4366 2 ай бұрын
@@adamcarter4947so what is?
@egibbs1623 11 ай бұрын
The Mini 14 is still the primary duty rifle California Department of Corrections and is currently in hundreds of control booths and towers at prisons across the state. For its intended purpose, its very effective. Nothing sharpens the senses of inmates fighting faster that that action slamming shut. Might as well be a pin dropping in a silent room.
@briancaine9130 8 ай бұрын
Good info. Thanks.
@jutah2 6 ай бұрын
Copy that brother. GET DOWN!
@nathanburton6297 11 ай бұрын
I absolutely love the attention the Garand-Style rifles are getting. From the recent M1A video and now this, I hope this pushes the market to give it some more support.
@luislongoria6621 11 ай бұрын
Ooh, the wheelbarrow approach is best for the fact that you suck as a shooter! Picking the easiest platform doesn't make you good in any way. Let us now all play video games on easy because it makes us look good 👍
@Fragger-1 11 ай бұрын
@@the_watcher_abcThat's kind of the point though. More market attention ideally means a push for better quality. Also, if you're talking about an M1A, that's usually a problem with mounting sights to them. They're actually fairly accurate rifles, most can hold around a 2 or lower MOA, with the worst tending to be closer to 3-4 MOA. The thing is they're not very good for mounting optics, at least with the original furniture. Their original furniture, much like the M14, is notorious for causing accuracy issues, which is part of why the military replaced the furniture for it. Plus many scope mounts people buy for it are complete garbage, usually poor quality aluminum mounts that just aren't really up to taking the recoil of .308 With good furniture, and a good mount, just like any gun, they're actually pretty accurate guns.
@ethanj5527 11 ай бұрын
Would more attention to these types of weapons Bring down the cost? I want a M1a/m14 so bad
@mfallen6894 11 ай бұрын
I wish Ruger would lose the patent like they did with the 10/22, then we'd see some innovation and a reduction in cost due to competition.
@josephlong7420 10 ай бұрын
There are two major problems with the mini. The first one is accuracy, this can be greatly improved by gas port bushings and a barrel brace. The second is the magazines. If Ruger would get their thumb out of their ass and charge a reasonable price for magazines.
@AlphaChimpEnergy 11 ай бұрын
I’m shocked they didn’t just adapt the design to accept AR mags.
@jackbrightside 11 ай бұрын
Money money money
@fighter4liberty211 11 ай бұрын
Ikr, the most obvious thing to do to sell a boat load of these boomer sticks & Ruger won't do it. I wouldn't be against getting 1 if they did that.
@idontwanttoputmyname403 11 ай бұрын
I’m not sure how much it would help the mini’s market share to be honest. It seems like it might just prompt even more “well at that point just get an ar” comparisons to me.
@rikeshpr85 11 ай бұрын
You can, but not without mods, and it jams like a MFer
@rikeshpr85 11 ай бұрын
The metal Pro mags are just as good as Ruger mags. Last price point I saw was $40 at Cabela's Bass pro shop
@aniquinstark4347 11 ай бұрын
I just like how it looks. It's the perfect mix of classic and tactical for a ranch rifle.
@Vmaxfodder 11 ай бұрын
Too loud!
@Frog-wh5qc 5 күн бұрын
It's a gun... Of course its loud.
@johndilday1846 11 ай бұрын
I always liked the looks of the Mini-14. I thought about buying one for a few years, until attending a patrol rifle class about 20 years ago. One of the attendees had a Mini-14, the rest of us used AR-15s. The guy with the Mini had nothing but trouble with his aftermarket magazines, and even had an out of battery discharge that blew out the guts of the magazine and showered me (I was right next to the guy) with hot brass fragments and gave me a dandy blister on the neck from a particularly large piece that was sizzling hot. I blamed the magazines for the most part, but with old Bill Ruger not wanting folks to have magazines over 10 rounds, most folks used aftermarket mags. I may get one someday for the hell of it. But if I do, I sure as hell am going to get factory mags only.
@railfanningpoints2.045 11 ай бұрын
The Mini 14 is hot garbage
@uh60ce1 11 ай бұрын
Came for the Mini 14 stayed for the Rugged Alaskan. That suppressor is in my sights.
@uh60ce1 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the like James.Hopfully you can tell Kellie at Rugged to make it in a 30 cal specific model.
@Ruggedsuppressors 11 ай бұрын
@@uh60ce1 30 cal? For what reasons? We are just wondering
@uh60ce1 11 ай бұрын
So You Tube has not let me reply to this twice ....here goes number 3
@uh60ce1 11 ай бұрын
Ok seems to be working so basically it is a lot of money for something I cannot find in stock in Virginia. Typically a suppressor that is dedicated for caliber will have better sound/signature capability less flash signature and have a smaller outside diameter. I don't think I would be unhappy at all with this suppressor, I just want to know what I am getting and try it possibly before I drop a lot of money on it. If there was a 30 version of it, maybe it would give me a warm and fuzzy feeling about it and honestly everything I own is 300 Win Mag or less. I will say I think it's the most Sick looking suppressor on the market. I just don't like the unknown if that makes sense?
@biddinge8898 11 ай бұрын
This needs a trademark ™️
@starlinsims2969 11 ай бұрын
Biggest problem with the mini is the magazines. Other than that, definitely a good rifle. As far as a cast receiver, ruger has been doing it since 1963, 64. They definitely know their stuff.
@kennethbranson4711 11 ай бұрын
Biggest problem with the mini 14 is the barrel flexes due to the harmonics of gun. Ak does the same thing. Its an antiquated design. And the early ones DID have machined receivers(AC556) They buck around in full auto pretty bad too. I had an early AC556 years ago, you can improve them, but it isn't cheap.
@TheDiameter 11 ай бұрын
@@kennethbranson4711lol the fact that you think that matters in a 2-3moa gun using an intermediate cartridge is laughable
@kennethbranson4711 11 ай бұрын
@@TheDiameter if you say so. I don't think you catch what im telling you. The barrel flexes. Your confusing what im saying with a different phenomenon.
@SuicideVan 11 ай бұрын
@@kennethbranson4711bingo, I noticed all the best shooting ones had an adjustable gas block installed and were down tuned to help tame the harmonics. It will always be inherently less accurate than modern designs, but that seems to go a long way in taming those harmonics.
@SuicideVan 11 ай бұрын
@@TheDiameterit matters when I may be shooting a rabbit at 100-200 meters on my ranch. Or squirrels at 100 meters. I also had first round fliers more than 20 cm off zero every hand loaded round. The only fix was to waste a round firing into the dirt so thr rifle could auto-load. Even then it rarely held zero more than a week.
@cynthia6389 11 ай бұрын
I like mine . About 8 years old now, not one malfunction ever. 680 bucks new at the gun show. Fast handling, a real work gun. Not for posers.
@kpenis17 9 ай бұрын
if they were still around that price i’d probably have one
@georgewhitworth9742 5 күн бұрын
He says about a gun typically people buy to get their A Team posing in...
@tweeked267 11 ай бұрын
“But if you do, can you also get it in stainless?” Well said.
@georgewhitworth9742 24 күн бұрын
Saltwater Arms AR's you can.
@Thomas-yw9eo 11 ай бұрын
Bought one new for $179 in 1977. Owned a few ARs since that proved a bit more accurate & reliable but the mini still stands out as one of the funnest rifles.
@DaveSmith-cp5kj 11 ай бұрын
I almost went for the mini, but ended up getting an SKS because it was half the price and ammo was cheaper.
@user-vg3yc6gk5f 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, those $89 SKS's were a bargain.
@jdawg4219 11 ай бұрын
I have owned the mini 14 and the mini 30. If I lived in a free state I would still own one. These rifles are very reliable, accurate, and a lot of fun to shoot. They are also legal in non free states.
@Thurston.Howell.the.3rd 11 ай бұрын
As a Commiefornian, I enjoy my 30 way more than my friends enjoy their wing gripped ARs. Please don't tell our Governor
@LittleNemoGaming 11 ай бұрын
@@Thurston.Howell.the.3rd I also have a mini-30, but I also also have a 18in .308 Aero M5 w/ AR Maglock on it. I enjoy both, haha. If you're not familiar with Reno May you should check him out for CA related 2nd A news.
@RealG.Washington 11 ай бұрын
@Thurston.Howell.the.3rd as a fellow commiefornian, you can buy pretty much anything. You just can't "have it on your rifle.", and you can't "drill the rivets out of standard cap mags pinned at 10 rounds."
@user-ef4gf7rr9r 11 ай бұрын
@@Thurston.Howell.the.3rd meanwhile, I'm over here with an SCR. There are twos of us, I swear!
@-John-Doe- 11 ай бұрын
The mini has several good design features. • Simple controls. _(even moreso than the AK)_ • Rock & Lock mags advocated for by several prominent individuals for a general service rifle. _(Larry Vickers, Ian McCollum, etc)_ • Low sight over bore axis - Point of Aim = Point of Impact - Smaller shooter Silhouette. • Traditional stock has advantages for retention techniques. _(and classic bayonet/fighting techniques)_ • Lightweight • Reliable & proven action.
@Vmaxfodder 11 ай бұрын
Too loud on my ears
@dennisburcar457 10 ай бұрын
@@maxsoregonok
@oxh4rb1ng3rxo5 10 ай бұрын
@maxsoregon I have never had my AR have a failure to feed. Not once with over 5,000 rounds fired so far and taken through many mud and sand tests. Keeping a rifle clean and oiled properly works wonders.
@Vmaxfodder 10 ай бұрын
@@oxh4rb1ng3rxo5 wait till you get a slightly bent round ! You'll find an epic jam ! And I don't mean jelly jam ! 😅🤣
@clydemarshall8095 8 ай бұрын
@@Vmaxfodderyou should be catching anything bent that badly during inspection and mag loading. You shouldn’t be trying to feed bent rounds to begin with.
@gossettcd 11 ай бұрын
I got a 30 around 18 months ago and have loved it since! I did use an aftermarket Ruger/Weigand Pic Rail so I could mount a Red Dot+Magnifier combo. Which I also love! Great video!
@georgevickers6752 11 ай бұрын
We totally agree with you about the Mini-14. My wife has shot a three-quarter inch group with this gun at 100 yards using Frontier ammo with 55 grain otm bullets.
@MarshallArsenal 11 ай бұрын
Love my mini-14 with Samson folding stock. A-TEAM baby!! Best 223 recoil rifle for its weight.
@brakk727 11 ай бұрын
Happy to see some love given to the Mini. I absolutely love mine, never had a single issue with it. Every time I’ve pulled the trigger it has worked flawlessly.
@robertashley2714 11 ай бұрын
The Mini-14 will remain relevant for as long as states insist on banning more modern designs as "too scary." That said, the Mini isn't a bad rifle. It's handy, it snaps to the shoulder, it's easy to carry, and it gets the job done. I'm glad Ruger finally addressed the accuracy issues, because that was long overdue. It's never going to out compete the AR-15, but nothing else chambered in 5.56 will either. The Mini-14 is its own rifle. If you have a use for it, there's nothing wrong with adding it to your safe.
@bminturn 11 ай бұрын
What's that ya say? The Rugged Alaska 360? Why that sounds like a mighty fine suppressor, young fella.
@OptimusJedi 11 ай бұрын
Mini 14 was my first rifle and so much fun to shoot. Really cool to see an in depth look at it.
@RickHunter-bd2gr 6 ай бұрын
I'm so glad you made this video, my father was a Vietnam vet, 11B , he loved his M14, I'm a former 11B also. Loved my M16 A2 and later the M4, my father purchased M1A1, and later the mini 14, I absolutely love these rifles, never had a issue, even went out and bought a M1 carbine. Great video,!
@HobbitHomes263 11 ай бұрын
Bought mine in 1986, put a SHilen target barrel on it in 89. Still shoots as well as any AR I've owned.
@brorx4475 11 ай бұрын
For some reason I want a rugged Alaskan 360, I am shopping for my MP5 clone
@MLKusername 11 ай бұрын
May have missed it... Is James running THE RUGGED ALASKAN on that build? Wasn't sure. Entirely.
@iamfodder1017 Ай бұрын
Old school here...I just prefer the carbine feel of the mini 14 to the AR. The flat top, pistol grip, sight two inches above the barrel doesn't do it for me at all. Put a M14 or a mini 14 to your shoulder and it just fits like it's supposed to...comfortable, quick, and right in front of your dominate eye. Just easier to shoot, less busy. Kind of like a trap gun vs a heavy combat shotgun. Lighter, quicker, easier to aim.
@bigdaddy5948 9 күн бұрын
Same here. The A. R. Is awkward
@SchwererGustavThe800mm 11 ай бұрын
I am a HUGE fan of the Garand action and the 4 rifle that encompass it. Personally, the M1 carbine is my favorite.
@burtonkephart6239 6 ай бұрын
Hoooray for the m1 carbine ! My fav as well. Get some underwood bullets going 2150 fps and they really seem to upgrade the caliber some!
@LikeLikeLikeLikeLike 11 ай бұрын
This is an awesome video. I was surprised to learn how well the rifle has performed at Thunder Ranch. It’s cool to think of this rifle like a song performed by a singer other than the original performer who actually performed it better than the original performer. Great video!
@eldorados_lost_searcher 11 ай бұрын
The Jimi Hendrix with "Along the Watchtower" or Johnny Cash with "Hurt" effect.
@johnmoore8067 11 ай бұрын
What? It does absolutely nothing better than any decent AR will for less $.
@luislongoria6621 11 ай бұрын
@@johnmoore8067Any decent modern AR at watered-down modern AR prices! Mini was the big daddy to the AR before the general public even knew what ARs were outside of Vietnam. Mini was the 2A to the government AR and now people want to act like ARs were Minis when they weren't even on the market for civilian sale. 2A is way more Mini than ANY government AR will ever be
@jbmemphis2151 11 ай бұрын
@@johnmoore8067the newer minis are built like a tank
@railfanningpoints2.045 11 ай бұрын
@@luislongoria6621 Bill Ruger hated 2A. STFU.
@Trey5003 11 ай бұрын
I love it, but I also love the AR, AK, lever, bolt, pump, revolver, single shot, blackpowder, hell just gun I like them, sorry for the long iteration but yes guns good!
@davepeterson7 11 ай бұрын
I purchased mine in a state where a Mini-14 was NOT considered a tactical rifle, so not state permit was needed to purchase. It was my first semi auto rifle…and I still hold to it as a favorite firearm.
@Lorenzo-fw3gx 11 ай бұрын
This was a perfect sum up of the Mini-14. Also your description of the AR DI system was hilarious 😂
@BL-ir9kc 11 ай бұрын
I had a Mini 14 Tactical that was very much a reasonable alternative to an AR. Liked it but a guy wanted it and traded me an M1A Scout, so it went.
@gregpace4676 10 ай бұрын
You got the better gun in that trade
@echo_94 10 ай бұрын
That’s a hell of a trade!! I wish!
@BL-ir9kc 10 ай бұрын
Also gave him a beat up Springfield GI 1911. So no, I didn't rob him.
@mrtlsimon 11 ай бұрын
The documentary about the Green Beret team that is in the Los Angeles underground first exposed me to the Mini 14. I may own one someday. The Ruger Mini 14 is slightly more ban proof & may look less "aggressive" than AR15s to some new shooters at my 2A4E Diversity Shoot events.
@Swampfox42 11 ай бұрын
How do we find that documentary? Sounds interesting and wasn’t able to find it with a quick search online.
@locksneedfartn 11 ай бұрын
Hope you’re joking about “2A for everyone” 😂 arming the opps smdh
@rivergoff802 11 ай бұрын
2A is for everyone, not just people you agree with.
@cbbees1468 11 ай бұрын
@@rivergoff8022A is only for Americans, Libtards, BLM and Antifa are not Americans.
@Swampfox42 11 ай бұрын
@@locksneedfartn other Americans are the opposition??
@jim_dubhglas 10 ай бұрын
You bamboozled us, James!!! That wasn't cornstarch you used in that Mini-14 test. It was GOLD BOND Medicated Body Powder! Maybe something you had lying around to powder your under bag before you take Grinder selfies. Still love the channel, regardless. You Mo!
@chrisbaker6776 8 ай бұрын
Thanks , I've been looking for a while . You cut thru the crap and love ole Clint ! M. B.
@ScottyBennitone 11 ай бұрын
I have the newer black version with a sampson walnut folding stock, accustrut barrel brace, all metal dust cover, and mcarbo trigger kit. It shoots lights out and groups (almost) as good as my 20" custom DMR build. Everyone who shoots it drools over the thing, plus its probably the coolest looking gun with a sig romeo mounted on the pic rail. Two thumbs up from me. 20round ruger mags are a MUST.
@HumbleWarrior7 11 ай бұрын
Accustrut does make a significant difference!
@kentuckybowl-o-sticks 11 ай бұрын
When I tell people what my Tactical (Model 5888) can do, they call me a liar (on the Internet, I mean : ) I've done a .875" 3-shot group, w/two in one figure-8 hole, with its favorite ammo so far, which is Hornady Superformance Match 5.56 75 gr. BTHP. And that was literally the first shots fired after a complete tear-down and cleaning, including R&R scope. Average of 6 shots w/a subsequent 3-shot group of bulk .223 was only 1/4" off dead-center, and one of the .223 hits was within the .875" group. I'm using an old, heavy Cobray "megaphone" on the muzzle (wish I'd weighed it before "permanently" mounting), since it invariably tightened the groups with ALL ammo, while lowering the POI. And yes, the factory trigger was probably the worst I've ever felt (gritty), so I massaged it just a little which helped a lot (not even finalized yet), and added a lighter secondary sear spring and trigger shoe : )
@RealG.Washington 11 ай бұрын
So glad I saw this I forgot to ever buy the accustrut! I always meant to oh sheit lol
@railfanningpoints2.045 11 ай бұрын
A rifle that requires an accustrut is inherently inaccurate.
@railfanningpoints2.045 11 ай бұрын
@@kentuckybowl-o-sticks 5 to 10 shot groups are a more accurate sample size of what a rifle is capable of. Not sure how you didn't have keyholing using 77gr ammo given the fact that the Mini 14 uses a 1:9 twist barrel. A 1:7 or 1:8 twist rate is required to stabilize 5.56 over 64gr.
@MrSumGuns 11 ай бұрын
Awesome video as always thanks! I had a mini 14 in the first decade of the 21st century and only problems I had was with aftermarket mags. If I used Ruger mags no issues.
@humankazoo8068 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video, James. It’s very hard finding an out-of-the-box SA rifle that is NY compliant. And reviews on them are few and far between. Offers a lot of insight to Ruger’s quality and handling. Big help for us NYers behind 2A enemy lines.
@railfanningpoints2.045 11 ай бұрын
Stop voting for anti 2A politicians
@tacticalenough6334 10 ай бұрын
I show what an SA M1A can do on my channel. They are typically great rifles.
@tonyjones80 5 ай бұрын
One of my absolute favorite rifles. My dad had a 180 series way back when. Great rifle!!
@Brad-ic4bp 11 ай бұрын
I’ve been wanting a mini-14 for a few months now, so this makes me feel better about that decision. It’s just one of those wallflower guns that’s been around forever but only recently caught my eye. I like the caliber, but I’ve never cared for the AR-15 look and feel. A nice wood stock and stainless steel rifle is what I’m attracted to. I’d definitely get that Sampson upper hand guard with pic rail. The plastic guard it comes with just seems cheap.
@user-qo3yy9nv1u 11 ай бұрын
Yea I don't like the ergonomics of an AR but I also grew up shooting AKs and SKS for 30 years shooting them. The Mini-14 being a piston gin and not DI is what stands out the most to me.
@JaykPuten 11 ай бұрын
I am a m16a2 clone lover(my most used firearm) and it's a vibe for me, and the 20" rifle length gas and buffer tube make it feel like the perfect instrument at the range to me That being said, I fully appreciate that wood and stainless steel look of the mini-14, but having used it, it's not for *me* I'm 100% sure it's definitely right for others though, it really is a wallflower that people need to try as a "range partner" and see if it all jives well with them, didn't with me, but I hope it does for you, because it really has this look to it of like "I'm awesome, I don't care if you like me" Your comment really makes me wanna borrow or rent one and try again and see if I'm just basic late cold war vibe loving, or can enjoy that m14/classic rifle with wood style it has
@railfanningpoints2.045 11 ай бұрын
"I like the caliber, but I’ve never cared for the AR-15 look and feel."
@JaykPuten 11 ай бұрын
@@railfanningpoints2.045 does that make someone a fudd to not like the look? He's not taking it into battle, and he's fine with others owning an AR A real fudd would say "no one should own an AR" not "I never really cared for it" Cus I never really cared for the VZ 58, but would never discourage someone from getting it
@user-qo3yy9nv1u 11 ай бұрын
@@JaykPuten VZ58 is ugly as sin but its a functional and reliable rifle with the fun fact it's a milled reciever. Buuuuut I also have a soft spot for ugly guns. I have a PS90 and a beretta CX4 so 🤷
@danieljones3683 11 ай бұрын
I own 6 AR15's but I still want a Mini 14. I have wanted one for years but never bought one. I am going to have to get one.
@aaronroth734 11 ай бұрын
Good review, never really considered a mini… but now I am considering. Thank you!
@richardfassett9755 11 ай бұрын
Love my Minis. Original Ruger Folder, Mini Ranch, Mini Thirty and two Minis that were given to me because someone borrowed a couple of part. Like you said - older parts aren’t there anymore. Keep up the good work. 👍 🐈⬛
@8RedBear5 11 ай бұрын
Not sure why the Mini-14 gets so much shade, the Mini's aren't much different than an AK. Mini-14/30 and the AKs share so much; both are old designs, both have right side charging handles, both are gas piston operated, both take rock and lock mags, both can be had in 5.56 and 7.62, both are hard to mount optics and lights to and finally both are hard to modernize. My Dad has both the Mini-14 and Mini-30 and really enjoys shooting both. I honestly think that if Ruger made a version of the Mini-14 that took the AR mag and the Mini-30 that took the AK mag they would have a double threat hit on their hands.
@stevem4783 11 ай бұрын
It's because most AR guys are sensitive sallys that trash anything that isn't an AR. (I own 4 ARs and only one Mini.) The AK comparison really is on point. I find it amusing how you need to spend a grand to get a decent AK (and they get much higher than that) and everyone is fine with that, but they screech at the notion of 900 bucks for a Mini. Makes no sense.
@FCV0511 11 ай бұрын
I've always loved the looks of the Mini-14; it really is like an M1 Carbine in a more available caliber. I'm glad that Ruger is still making them, and I intend to pick one up sometime. Thanks for the great video, and Clint's excellent words of wisdom are always welcome!
@notajaxon9476 10 ай бұрын
I never thought of it as just an advanced m1 carbine, but I kind of like the way that sounds.
@brianclassen5221 11 ай бұрын
The profile of these rifles is better for tucking under a truck seat than the AR/AK platforms. I wish I would have bought one when they came out. I love absorbing Clint's wisdom. Thank You, Sir.
@user-po3ev7is5w 5 ай бұрын
I got together 5 Mini haters who thought the weapon was obsolete and told them to walk out 300 meters and let me take one shot at each of them. All refused. I guess they were really lying about what they thought about the mini.
@jasonmullins3900 11 ай бұрын
I have an old 184 serial number mini 14 and it surprisingly likes the poly tapco mags that had the metal around the top.
@kevinkissinger9462 11 ай бұрын
I have a stainless wood stock mini 14 and i love it. for me its mostly the hertitage of it being based off the m14. i just love how they have the same action and everything. Plus it makes a sweet sound when you rack the bolt 😊
@fastmonkey591 11 ай бұрын
Perfect timing! Thanks!
@Four_Words_And_Much_More 10 ай бұрын
Great information. Thank you.
@bghiggy 11 ай бұрын
Cmon James, we all know the mini 14 is one of the rifles ever made
@uwugaloo 11 ай бұрын
The Mini 14 is the ultimate troll lords rifle. Upon mention of the Mini 14, you will INEVITABLY hear someone say "But muh AR"
@idontwanttoputmyname403 11 ай бұрын
@@Riorozen At this point even decent ar’s are cheaper.
@bluebeastsrt 11 ай бұрын
And they’d be right. Paying more for an inferior rifle makes you feel like the smart troll. Good for ya.
@fronthole_guacamole Ай бұрын
I remember when people with big pin Colt AR HBARs dunked on the Mini-14 poors that shot Bernaul cat-piss scented 556 because the guns were so inaccurate that you wouldn't be able to tell the accuracy difference between it and Norma. Nowadays if you leave a store with a Colt, people wonder how many times you were dropped on your head as an infant.
@georgewhitworth9742 24 күн бұрын
Which to be fair, Mini owners have a terrible habit of saying they're better then AR's. I was a Mini-14 owner for awhile, and I'm hoping to get another one. But the Mini crowd can get carried away and annoying sometimes.
@ianh2950 27 күн бұрын
"The brotherhood of steel vs the cyber mormons" We need James to publish his Wattpad writing
@paulkoch9871 11 ай бұрын
My Mini-14 is a 187 series rifle I bought new. The Ranch rifle version with Ruger rings. I mounted a 3-9x Redfield Widefield scope. Used it on woodchucks for years with no problems, as cold bore shots are dead on. A couple years ago I installed a barrel stabilizer which helped greatly when shooting steel at the range. My only complaint, and others at the range, is it throws brass 30-40 feet to the right.
@dougc190 4 ай бұрын
Yes it does, never seen a gun throw brass like a mini will
@BustedThimble 11 ай бұрын
I’m glad to hear nice stuff about the Mini 14.. and also about the Rugged Alaskan 360!
@yonniboy1 11 ай бұрын
I had a mini 14 for 7 years in the 1990s and loved it, it was 100% reliable and took a lot of abuse but there's so many customising parts for the AR15 that you can bring it to exactly how you want it that makes the mini 14 very old school.
@MrPackman45 7 ай бұрын
I love how distinct the sound of the action is closing after every shot. Love my mini!
@williamolliges2622 27 күн бұрын
Oh, make no mistake, the sound of an AR is just as distinct. The sound of the buffer spring inside the buffer tube is distinctly like nails on a chalkboard.
@user-oh5jx2mz1f 2 ай бұрын
Great review and you sold me!!!! Keep the reviews coming.
@baconator754 11 ай бұрын
Good one James. I picked up my SS Ranch after disappointment with a Springfield Saint AR. Degassed it a bit with ports from Accuracy Systems, and recently sent the trigger group to A.S. for their Service Grade mod. $100 and a week later it came back with a crisp 4-pound trigger in place of the 6-pound creepy one it left with. Next up will be an adjustable gas block that will allow fine tuning and the option to used it as a straight-pull so I don’t have to scratch in the dirt for my brass. Absolutely dead-reliable and I can walk around my local WMA with a 5-round flush mag without any dog-walkers calling out SWAT. Runs wet or dry, and as Clint said, I feel I can leave it lay for a week, a year, or a decade, then pick it up and bang away. Thanks for all the good content.
@railfanningpoints2.045 11 ай бұрын
"Absolutely dead-reliable and I can walk around my local WMA with a 5-round flush mag without any dog-walkers calling out SWAT."
@Fineonee 11 ай бұрын
Amega mounts makes a rail similar to the Samson. I’ve used it for years with no issues. Great upgrade that makes the rifle perform and look even better
@crankygunreviews 11 ай бұрын
The ejection pattern is funny too, because the staggered mag, they eject at like 5 o clock and 2 o clock, but get yeeted into the next county.
@richardkut3976 9 ай бұрын
Excellent review, thanks.
@williambasilone 11 ай бұрын
I love my mini. Mine is an older version passed down from my dad that came with a flash hider and bayonet lug. Mine's been tremendously reliable and now wears an A-TM stock. As for parts breakages, I actually did have to replace a part for the manual bolt hold open. Back then those pieces had what was essentially a wire as part of the assembly. The replacement I got was a newer Ruger part that was a solid piece of metal instead of the wire, so they seem to have noticed and addressed that issue. Besides that, she's over 40 years old and still running like a sewing machine.
@luislongoria6621 11 ай бұрын
Haven't seen any wire on a Mini 30 as it was a machined horseshoe piece that held the bolt when the dinky plunger was engaged
@williambasilone 11 ай бұрын
@luislongoria6621 Yeah I suspect it was an older design that Ruger quickly realized was an issue and fixed
@Uberragen21 11 ай бұрын
I have wanted a mini-14 for many years, but living behind enemy lines (in CA) the firearms go for MORE than MSRP. Not a single pistol, rigle or shotgun I purchased in the past 20 years was for less than MSRP and lately most are going for $100 over.
@BezmenovDisciple 11 ай бұрын
Got my Mini in CA last summer for MSRP. Maybe even a little under.
@Uberragen21 11 ай бұрын
@@BezmenovDisciple It's going for $1580 in NorCal as of June, 2023. That's about $100 over MSRP. It's all relative to where you live and your FFL. The biggest problem is the 10 day waiting period. I'm not going to drive 3+ hours away from the Bay Area to buy from a small FFL in a small town to save $100, then have to spend that money on gas going back and forth 4 times.
@BezmenovDisciple 11 ай бұрын
@@Uberragen21 That’s fair.
@williamryan9195 11 ай бұрын
@@Uberragen21 Picked up a wood stock mini 30 at Turners for around 900 bucks a year and a half ago.1580 is steep.
@DaveSmith-cp5kj 11 ай бұрын
@@Uberragen21 Bruh, you're in California, everyone there just 80% a rifle or 3D prints the receiver and builds their guns from parts kits for like less than $400. Not even that hard to make it compliant if you believe in following unconstitutional regulations.
@robertcapodiferro5224 28 күн бұрын
First of all..... "GREAT VIDEO!" I'm a retired member of "law enforcement." The Ruger Mini - 14 is a firearm that I've used and have had a lot of training with. I always enjoyed my interactions with it. Now (just recently), I've been discussing the newer version of it with my 33 year old son, who, like me, is a gun enthusiast. The conversation is simply about purchasing one to add to my collection. And, of course, to enjoy at the range. Your video is "saturated" with pertinent information regarding this weapon..... "Loved it!"...... thank you.
@markgarcia5563 10 ай бұрын
The Ruger Ranch in 762x39 is a fantastic rifle. I would love a Mini-30 to go with it. Great review.
@marcuschauvin7039 11 ай бұрын
I have 2 minis, one in 556 and one in 300 blk. Properly made and heat treated investment casting are really good and just as durable as any AK.
@theodoreheintz7891 11 ай бұрын
Another benefit of just going with the factory rings as opposed to a pic rail mounted to the factory bases is less obstruction of the ejection path
@AdoreYouInAshXI 10 ай бұрын
The fact that you have a FoxHound patch on your wall makes you such a badass.
@stevewhisperer6609 11 ай бұрын
Very good video! I've had my second-hand, 1987 vintage 185- since the mid/late 90's. It was a rescue - clad in a ghetto-fab, chincy plastic side folding stock. First, got her into a Ruger factory wood stock and a couple years later, a Ruger factory side folder stock I snapped up at a gunshow for $80. Minute of dinner plate accuracy @100 yrds, but I'm fine with this - having grown up watching the A-team. 😁 With a custom BFG sling, a small pile of 20 and 30 round Ruger mags along with a couple cases of .223 that most of my ARs turn their nose up at - and I'm set. ( Easy on doggin' 5.45 - just 'cuz some of us stocked up on them spam cans when it was dirt-cheap, no need to hate, bruh! 😁 It's put down its share of haji across Afghanistan and other scenic locations for many decades now. )
@tommyt8998 11 ай бұрын
I have a 181 skinny barrel model I bought 40 years ago. Never had a jam. When I got on the range shortly after buying it for $179, I was getting 10-inch groups at 100 yards once it got hot. Later I added a ten-dollar steel flash suppressor on it that is a bit heavy. That reduced my 100-yard groups to 5-6 inches. No M4, but it's all I need for a fun and home defense carbine. If I were getting a new rifle today, I would go with a cheaper M4, like S and W Sport 2, but the improvement I would get today buying a new gun is not worth the cost.
@KonaLife 11 ай бұрын
There’s a strut that you can add to the barrel of the mini 14 older versions (181) that will improve your groupings.
@EpicOfChillgamesh 7 ай бұрын
I've never seen an interview with Clint before, but I'm calling it now. That guy's a stud.
@erik100mark 11 ай бұрын
My father-in-law actuality used the mini-14 when in a SWAT team in the 80s. They all had them.
@c.j.8423 11 ай бұрын
Always liked the mini14, never actually fired one but I grew up watching The A-team and it’s a huge part of that series lol. What can I say, I love it when a plan comes together! Anything with irons from the factory gets a huge pile of bonus point from me.
@jay.mostacho2414 11 ай бұрын
Also, the pre 2003 models being inaccurate makes a lot of sense why all the bullets shot on that show never landed on a single person. Grew up on that show but watching it now is like watching a Disney+ Star Wars series about 4 Storm Troopers that went rogue…
@Vmaxfodder 11 ай бұрын
It hurts my ears ....very loud
@enricopaolocoronado2511 11 ай бұрын
Obsolete, maybe. But I can't deny that the Mini-14 has this charm to it. Sure, AR-15 pattern rifles are more popular, but the Mini-14's profile just looks great IMHO.
@wtchr6883 11 ай бұрын
It's hard for a retro design gun to be obsolete, it wasn't up to date to start with
@richardtreat7955 10 ай бұрын
I’m glade they reworked the barrel, and tightened up the tolerance of this machine. It may now make its way into my safe.
@rachelyoungblood7782 7 ай бұрын
Great gun to have in the safe. I prefer my my Wilson combat AR but the mini is still fun at the range. Thanks for the video, it was fun to watch!
@Mejughead 11 ай бұрын
I love my mini 14. Having a helluva time with mounting an optic and being happy with it. Just got the GG&G mount and it did not fit out of the box. Had to remove one of the alignment/recoil pins to make it fit.
@BezmenovDisciple 11 ай бұрын
Get the Hannibal rail and a red dot.
@stevem4783 11 ай бұрын
Got a 583-series stainless Ranch. Added a Samson Hannibal rail (the single best upgrade you can do to a Mini,) a green dot reflex, and an Accu-Strut. It fires softly, accurately, reliably, and it's fun as hell. Built like a tank, too. Makes a great plinker/small game hunter/scout rifle. Minis also have excellent triggers right out of the box. Is it as modular and customizable as an AR? No. Is it a good rifle regardless? Yes. Most people who trash the Mini simply do so off repeating internet "truths" or because it's not an AR.
@stevem4783 11 ай бұрын
@@timberlandone4054 I think the thing that gets me is the complete denial of preference. Preferring a solid wooden stock, a rifle without a pistol grip, or a fully stainless Garand-style side-charging action are most definitely things - but many will just shrug them off as if they don't matter because "AR better" and obviously you're only allowed to like the thing that does the job passably well for the least amount of money. I guess if all we are allowed to care about is efficiency per dollar that means we're all doomed to drive used Corollas and eat nothing but canned tuna fish on wheat. For what it's worth, I also own 4 ARs. They're all good rifles too. I still like the Mini.
@NancyAllensToiletSeat 11 ай бұрын
Can you compare the Hannibal to Ultimak? I have an Ultimak but don't know if it's worth shelling out more cash. I imagine the Hannibal gets just as scorching hot.
@stevem4783 11 ай бұрын
@@NancyAllensToiletSeat I can't, never handled one with an Ultimak. They look really similar, minus the holes in the side and the optic cuts in the Hannibal.
@jedpeeler4199 10 ай бұрын
Add a Hellfire (R) trigger and have even more fun. The Hellfire was really designed for that gun!
@stevem4783 10 ай бұрын
@@jedpeeler4199 Eh, not my style. To each their own, but I'll pass on that gimmick. No need or want for it.
@BlackAdder1970 3 ай бұрын
I prefer the Mini 30 myself, but the Mini 14 is equally a great, reliable and rugged gun. I Made two upgrades to my Mini 30. Accuracy Systems firing pin is a must! Once I put their Extended firing pin in the carrier bolt, well its EATS EVERYTHING. The Extended firing pin is about .02 to .03 longer. It ignites steel cased ammo! It EATS EVERYTHING! $70 dollar upgrade made this gun an absolute workhorse! The next upgrade I made was a lighter Sear Spring by MCarbo for $12.95. Then I polished the hammer sear and trigger sear. The trigger is smooth and crisp now. My trigger averages about 4 pounds now. It has some take up though.
@bobsal5776 8 ай бұрын
Great video!
@nickallen8333 11 ай бұрын
The mini 14 will never be “obsolete” per say but I think the problem with it is the price.
@austindenotter19 11 ай бұрын
Yes. That is my biggest problem.
@stevem4783 11 ай бұрын
I don't really get this. It's a good reliable rifle that doesn't need anything out of the box. A decent AK will run you a grand (or more) and it's no more capable or modular than a Mini and people think that's fine.
@nickallen8333 11 ай бұрын
@@stevem4783 My shop has WASRs for low 7’s and and the mini is 1k. Also you can get a basic AR for like 600 that does the same thing and arguably better in some areas. If the mini was 6-700 I think it would be a lot more relevant. I do think it’s a nice little rifle but again the price is the big downside imo.
@stevem4783 11 ай бұрын
@@nickallen8333 Century Arms are junk and they're more like 900-1k, not 700. There's many places you can order a brand new Mini right now for about 870 bucks. They're going under MSRP. A 600 dollar AR will probably still need optics/sights, won't have as good a trigger as the Mini, and isn't gonna be as robust. The Mini is a solid rifle out of the box that doesn't NEED any upgrades. You can get ARs that are too, but they're gonna cost you more. Guns have gotten more expensive all across the board. The only reason entry-level ARs are cheaper is because a billion companies are pumping them out now.
@railfanningpoints2.045 11 ай бұрын
@@stevem4783 "It's a good reliable rifle that doesn't need anything out of the box."
@robinshull6510 11 ай бұрын
I have always been under the impression that mini 30 came first. Also I remember watching the A-Team and ever since I had wanted a mini 14. Took me years to get one. So when I saw one in my favorite gun store and it was in 300blk. I scooped it up. I have sensed put it in the stock like on the A-Team had there's.
@DTex.45ACP 11 ай бұрын
Definitely not. The first Mini-14 was actually .222 and then .223.
@DeputyChiefEMS57 11 ай бұрын
I put a Mini 14 vin a muzzlelite bull pup stock had a gunsmith friend fit the stock to the rifle no malfunctions….love it
@MrFroglips69 11 ай бұрын
Groovy video. Very informative.
@leverBoyluke 11 ай бұрын
I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again, man I love my Mini 14!!!
@BaldBeardd1 11 ай бұрын
I’ve always wanted one. Cool looking firearm. I’m a fan of having as many firearms as possible with round compatibility…just wish mags were compatible w/ the ar
@salacommander2674 10 ай бұрын
I would've left it at "I'm a fan of having as many firearms as possible"
@darylshanks3150 10 ай бұрын
All time favorite, much love!
@rtyson256 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video, I am on my second one.! It just works!
@WrathofPharaoh 11 ай бұрын
I can personally attest to the magazine issue. The only time my mini had any malfunction was with a third party magazine. All the rest of my mags are Ruger brand, and function flawlessly. That's the only major downside I can think of. It's not a perfect rifle, but I love it for what it is. It may not be a tack driver, but as long as it's "minute of bad guy" it's good enough for any practical application.
@xAeschylusx 11 ай бұрын
I had a mini-14 when I was a kid and thought it was a piece of trash, jammed every couple rounds. A decade later I discovered that we only had AR mags for it, and decided to buy a couple authentic ruger mags. After that the gun never had a problem again
@stevem4783 11 ай бұрын
I hate people who trash the Mini because it's not a .5 MOA rifle out of the box. That's not what it's meant for.
@railfanningpoints2.045 11 ай бұрын
@@xAeschylusx You can't fit AR mags in the Mini 14. You're fake news.
@railfanningpoints2.045 11 ай бұрын
@@stevem4783 No they trash it because it's a shitty 4 to 6 moa rifle that's less accurate than a well made AK.
@stevem4783 11 ай бұрын
@@railfanningpoints2.045 Just more proof for everyone you have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Thank you.
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