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IS THE TORO SUPER RECYCLER 21564 THE BEST HOMEOWNER LAWN MOWER?
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IS THE TORO SUPER RECYCLER 21564 THE BEST HOMEOWNER LAWN MOWER? I recently bought a 2023 TORO SUPER RECYCLER 21564 with a 190CC ENGINE. It MULCHES, BAGS GRASS and SIDE DISCHARGES like a champ! In this video, I go over the FEATURES, CONSTRUCTION, and BUILD QUALITY of this mower. Did toro cut corners along the way and make some MISTAKES? LIKE & SUBSCRIBE!!!
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@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
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@marshmower Жыл бұрын
If it was $60 and free shipping. . . I could stripe clover.
@Parabola_PJ Жыл бұрын
JB?! Seems like the Snow Gods heard us Chatting!! Went out to run the blower out and "summerize" it and go through it and low and behold...i have an oil leak. Its coming out from the front cover for the belts, so - with the Wisdom I have learned Upon Your Mighty Channel i believe its pressurized coming off the engine from either a seal,gasket or line. Because where the leaks (slow leak which makes it 10x more requirements for some AC/DC). Got a video you have done or thought, lastly JB - Can I Please Buy Some Merch or when ya reply, if theres a product link you could do so you get something. You really are an Amazing Wealth of Accurate Knowledge. Please get some merch in, ill even help collab and want 0 from it except a GG shirt or hoodie. We gotta setup some Merch for yah. Im a the "Cyber Securities and Kinetic Technology" field - so All my Knowledge is from this Channel Only.
@jaspervonbach3621 10 ай бұрын
I looked at a Toro Super Recycler yesterday at my local Toro dealer and I thought it was peculiar/odd that the right front wheel did not touch the ground. A defect??
@GarageGear 10 ай бұрын
@@jaspervonbach3621 this is a common problem with this mower with many owners saying the same thing
@ayrplanes Жыл бұрын
The sputtering is easy to fix and has three causes. First, the spark plug boot may not be pushed all the way on. Second, it only comes with only enough oil to fill to the bottom of the acceptable oil fill zone on the dipstick. The engine has an oil level switch and won't run if too little oil is in it. Mow on a hill or hit a bump and the oil sloshes and the oil level switch momentarily turns off, killing the engine for a second. Just add more oil up to to the top of the hashed area on the dipstick. Finally, the factory Champion plugs just misfire. Take your spark plug out and replace it with correct E3 brand spark plug, (E3.20 on mine). Be sure to carefully set the spark gap to what the manual says (0.020" on mine). Regarding the slight variation in wheel height, the wheels have ball bearings and tighter tolerances. With plain bearing wheels there is more bearing play and that lets all wheels touch the floor, therefore you can't detect any wheel diameter difference. Not an issue at all when on grass as the grass is springy. Good mower. Much more nimble than the steel deck versions. I have long arms so the lower handle does not hit my gut. If you have short arms or a big gut, I would not recommend it.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Thanks again for sharing these tips!
@garciacindy2035 11 ай бұрын
Lightweight is good and what did I use it for it’s a lawnmower kzfaq.infoUgkxTPN04aT-Qdjr_KS3ql7ng8wnU3wwsCqk also recommend Yes it is lightweight so hence not as robust as our old one. But if you take care it does the job really well.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing garcia’
@mikecraig6667 Жыл бұрын
Proud owner of a 21564 as of 4 hours ago thanks to your videos. Just like you warned. One front wheel spinning freely while the other three are resting on the garage floor. Also, the spark plug boot wasn't even close to being seated on the plug. How can this consistently be a problem before being boxed and shipped out? I got my mower preassembled from a very respected dealer and they obviously didn't catch the plug boot issue. Thanks to your videos I knew exactly what I was getting into and what to look for and address. I'm pretty excited to mow after taking it for a dry run around the driveway. Personal Pace worked very well and disengaged when it was supposed to when backing up. Keep up the videos coming!!!!!!
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the awesome feedback! Glad you found this video and it’s information helpful Mike! 👍👍
@user-je4os7ds4b 10 ай бұрын
During the 1st mow with my brand new 190cc super recycler using the supplied toro oil it sputtered and complained like everybody says. Changed the oil to mobil 1 synthetic and an E3 plug and its a different mower! Just completed a 3rd mow and absolutely no sputtering. using reg 87 octane pump gas In regards to the "3 wheel off balance" issue, if you note in the manual, to achieve a particular mow height, the front wheels will have a different notch than the rear wheels. I followed these directions and all 4 wheels are firmly in contact with my garage floor. Good luck with this very picky mower!
@GarageGear 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@pmaint1 2 ай бұрын
You're asking for trouble using ethanol! Bad bad bad
@GamerNxUSN Ай бұрын
@@pmaint1 he said regular...which usually means non ethanol
@pmaint1 Ай бұрын
@@GamerNxUSN Have you ever been to a gas station? For the lower grade gas is always regular! Non ethanol always says non ethanol or ethanol free. Regular unleaded is just that regular unleaded. WOW
@Josh-km9vc 4 ай бұрын
After 11 years I had it with my Husqvarna. Engine still runs well but for the last 2 years I’ve been dealing with a hole where the wheel fits the deck causing the deck to drop no matter the amount of JB weld products. I spent some time trying to figure out if I wanted to go with the new Toro Super Recycler 21565 or the Honda HRX217VKA. Ultimately I chose the Toro mainly due to the aluminum deck and Honda leaving the outdoor equipment scene. Hopefully I made the right call. They sure are expensive these days.
@GarageGear 4 ай бұрын
Nothing seems to come cheap nowadays other than cheaply made lol
@user-kr7em9ij8h 3 ай бұрын
I’ve mowed with this exact mower for 2 seasons, one thing I wanna mention the wheel axles are plastic. If you mow on a long incline ( like a river bank) I have split out the wheels twice. The fix: put radiator clamps, that, when tightened around plastic axles, will hold the split wheels axles permanently so you can mow on inclines without gear’s slipping. The wheels should’ve had metal sleeves around them in 1st place. I guess toro wants to sale more parts!😂
@GarageGear 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this information my friend!
@johnwinters1326 Жыл бұрын
I purchased the same mower and found that it sputtered and surged after 15-20 minutes of mowing. The dealer replaced the carb at the recommendation of Briggs, but it did not solve the problem. The dealer finally found that the gas cap was not venting properly and that solved the problem. Hope this helps someone! UPDATE: Unfortunately, after mowing yesterday I had the same sputtering problem. After mowing for a few minutes the engine started to miss, and then after continuing to mow for 20 minutes the sputtering started all over. So far, new carb, new vented gas cap and new spark plug have not fixed the problem. Back to the dealer tomorrow! 2nd UPDATE On the third trip to the dealer, Briggs had them change the coil and that seems to have solved the problem. Hope this helps someone.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Good to know! Thanks for sharing this John!
@apexiumim2741 Жыл бұрын
Mine is back at the dealer with same issues.
@conradaleshire4428 Жыл бұрын
I have the 2021 190cc, mine came with side discharge but it's on the side, not from the back. Seems pretty unsafe that it's coming from the rear so close to the legs. Down south we got some thick St. Augustine and even after 3-4 weeks of not mowing with heavy rain and fertilizer, the 190cc cuts through it like butter. I don't have the "vortex" but I still love the machine. The Engine surges, but I put High octane gas in it and it doesn't sputter. Seems to sputter on hotter days as well. Great vid.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing all of this Conrad!
@keithg3102 Жыл бұрын
Another great video Jb! I have the exact same mower and have been using it since March, and have no sputtering... 1 helpful suggestion for those that own it, to help make the plastic carburetor last longer, put a fuel shut off valve on it and shut the fuel off when you're done mowing for the day and let the mower run till it runs out the fuel in the carb. Then pull the starter rope a few times to purge the carb.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Hey Keith great plan! I may have to make a video on this to share with everyone! Thanks for sharing! 👍
@mauricioiraheta9134 Жыл бұрын
Can you help me with where to buy or model, for the fuel shut off
@gpalmerify Жыл бұрын
Agree on all your observations completely. Always a big fan of spiral shaped decks for vacuum action on clippings to get multiple chops on them as they're suspended. That requires a powerful engine and someone who doesn't try to mulch a wet lawn. Snapper did that really well. Briggs marketing an engine that never needs an oil change is just a ploy to generate parts sales IMO.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Hey g! 💯 agree with you on the briggs! Planned obsolescence! Thanks for watching!
@justfishing5837 11 ай бұрын
I have a similar model I bought new last July. About 2 months ago, the engine would stall out like it is running out of gas.(even though the tank is almost full). Brought it to the Toro service center and after having it for 3 weeks, they said they cleaned the carb. After paying $110.00 for that, got it home and did the same thing, stall out. Brought it back to the service center almost a month ago and still waiting to get it back. From what I read on Toro owner's group blog, sounds like the coil went bad. Anxious to get it back and see how it runs.
@GarageGear 11 ай бұрын
Hey just fishing, I want to say that this is a carburetor issue. A broken coil usually wouldn’t even let the mower start to begin with. Let me know what you find out. 👍
@justfishing5837 11 ай бұрын
will do, thanks for the info.@@GarageGear
@LL-mt2nz Жыл бұрын
I have the 60v version of your mower and everything you said also applies to it. I will say its mulching capability is superb. We have had a lot of rain and even in damp conditions, this mower mulches flawlessly.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
The mulching ability of this machine is incredible! Thanks for watching LL
@timraber6575 Жыл бұрын
I looked at the new Roybi $800 all wheel drive yesterday at Home Depot. it came with two batteries. Also you get either a free trimmer or blower with another two batteries. I’m still on the fence on battery mowers. My six year old Toro is still working, but needs a few things I give it a workout each week. I saving my money this summer for a replacement.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
If they are giving stuff away for free it’s probably not good. Just a heads up.
@shortyorc121 Жыл бұрын
@GarageGear This man, I priced out the Makita xgt mower, trimmer, and blower and it came out to be over 2k and that's without any extra batteries. When the price is too good to be true walk away. You get what you pay for.
@timraber6575 Жыл бұрын
@@campbellpaul I do work on my mower when it’s needed. They are not that complicated.
@vinylmaven1074 Жыл бұрын
Your lucky yours came out of the box and RUNS! I traded in my 2 year 3 month old Toro "Recycler" after 4 visits to a lawn equiptment sales/service shop to be looked at (the last 2 were to a Toro dealer) . The first season was ok, the rest of the time was awful! Sputtering and not starting after taking a short break and trying to restart it, I was pushing in the plug boot just in case. After trading it in I bought the Toro Super Recycler #21564 for $900.00!! I took it home and noticed 2 drops of oil right under and behind the muffler, I thought it was because it was just preped. The next morning I started it, after"3" pushes on the electric start, it started but smoked like crazy then setteled down. But it was surging/sputtering then I looked as I started mowing and I was able to look over the engine in front and saw a few more drops of oil, I went a little more and saw a little trickle of oil I stopped immediately, I just couldn't believe my bad luck a brand new mower! I was beyond mad. I called the dealer and had them pick it up, the driver tried to start it and after 5 pushes on the electric start he tried to pull started it, NO luck. I don't know what to do I think I deserve another new mower but I don't think it will happen, any advise??
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Hey vinyl! I would request a new one! Oil drips are never a good sign. Thanks for sharing this with the garage gear community! 👍
@vinylmaven1074 Жыл бұрын
@@GarageGear Thank you! I'm calling Toro tomorrow!
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
@@vinylmaven1074 let me know how it goes
@f62darkstar Жыл бұрын
nice machine all in all.....But people dump on Craftsman products....I am on my 3rd season with my Craftsman M270 mower....great machine....has not given me a lick of trouble.....it too has electric start utilizing craftsmans v20 battery system.....and it starts just as fast....I love it.....and the battery will last all season without needing charged.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you found what you like. Stick with it!
@jadamec Жыл бұрын
I've got a "20" Super Recycler. Two big issues with it; #1 Sprays out a ton of clippings on the Left side, getting packed down by the rear wheel. #2 when pulling backwards, no mulch what so ever. Cut 2", you've got 2" trimmings left on the lawn has you pull the mower back. Was wondering if the front vent helps with that ? Both the Dealer I got it from and Toro totally deny this problem exists.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Hey jada! The vent on the front is really just a gimmick! It barely does anything from why I notice. I did notice some clippings when pulling back as well but overall not too bad.
@normbittner3762 Жыл бұрын
I have the 190cc B&S on my 2008 Toro 20092 model- this year is it's 16th season and never had sputtering. I'm getting a new one and giving it to my son for his new house. I've changes the oil maybe twice, otherwise have always just topped off, maybe 2 air filters and until the 15th season, always used 87 octane & 10% ethanol fuel- with no issues- starts fast always. I'm either lucky or it's rock solid!
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Now your son can enjoy the mow as well!
@normbittner3762 Жыл бұрын
@@GarageGear Any plans on reviewing the NEW Ariens Razor Reflex Dual Blade mower? They're getting back in the walk behind mower market and seems to be trying to go after Toro.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
@@normbittner3762 possibly next season norm we will see! It’s definitely worth a look!
@normbittner3762 Жыл бұрын
Agreed- I ordered my new 21564- wanted to buy from my local dealer but could not pass up $719 w/ veteran discount & free shipping from Home Depot.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
@@normbittner3762 good deal! Thank you for your service!
@AAa-qd8hb 2 ай бұрын
HELP. (Question for anyone). I love my old Toro AWD (all wheel drive) mower with BTAH (blue traction assist handle) but the new Toro AWD mowers (21472) have baby carriage handle without BTAH. How do I add BTAH. Thank you. Toro's BTAH (Blue Traction Assist Handle) converts Toro's PPM (Personal Pace Mowers) (which requires a person to push Toro's heavy mower forward before the self-propelled drive kicks in) to ((easily without effort) controlling Toro's self-propelled drive with just your fingers and hands without moving forward). This is needed on steep hills where you need the AWD Toro mower to pull you and this powerful AWD mower up the hill without any effort on your part. The powerful Toro AWD mower can do this only with BTAH and not by Toro's PPM (extra exercise mode). Without BTAH you end up pushing this heavy Toro mower up the hill even with AWD. It is a shame that Toro has gone (woke not work) with this useless new Toro curved baby carriage handle. IMO. Thank you for your help and understanding this Toro (back breaking) mower issue.
@GarageGear 2 ай бұрын
Hey AA Does your old mower no longer work?
@AAa-qd8hb 2 ай бұрын
@@GarageGear Yes, my old Toro AWD (with BTAH) mower still works great but it is getting old and I need a backup AWD mower now before the USA dollar becomes worthless.
@deseandudley281 4 ай бұрын
I heard a rumor that Honda might be teaming up with Toro in the future to have a toro mower with a Honda engine.. not sure if that’s true.. but we shall see..
@GarageGear 4 ай бұрын
We will see! Could be interesting!
@blumobean Ай бұрын
The best walk behind self-propelled mower is a Snapper with the disk drive system. Period.
@GarageGear Ай бұрын
@@blumobean thanks for sharing
@michaelpawelski8444 2 ай бұрын
I own a Toro RECYCLER MAX with a 163cc GTS engine. It's the next model down from the super recycler. It comes with a 5 year limited warranty and 5 year GTS warranty. It ran flawlessly out of the box. Filled with premium fuel, ran it for 30 minutes, changed the oil, after 5 hours of usage I change the oil again and it cuts great. I like the personnel pace handle and saved a few $100 bucks from that model.
@GarageGear 2 ай бұрын
Awesome Michael! Appreciate you sharing this!
@montanawhite5699 7 ай бұрын
I gotta say that’s a sexy mower. Side discharge needing to be ordered it pretty smart. Also, never saw a side discharge like that. I usually cut grass that’s super long and thick so the side discharge always gets clogged.
@GarageGear 7 ай бұрын
Those side discharges have been used by some other brands in the past but you’re right they don’t clog! 👍
@StuartNC Жыл бұрын
I got my 21564 online from Home Depot. It was shipped to me from Toro in El Paso. I noticed the engine build date is September 2021. Is that typical? Seems odd that it’s been sitting around for a couple years. I’m still debating returning it before 30 days runs out. The engine does not like bumps or slopes. If I’m careful not to fill the tank past about 3/4 it behaves better. I called Toro to ask if any service bulletins and they referred me to a dealer. I called the local dealer and they would not tell me if any bulletins unless I bring it in and pay $42 diagnostic fee!
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Hey Stuart I would return it and probably grab another one! In the meantime you could get a used mower to get the job done while you wait for a new one to arrive! 👍
@ChaiLatte13 4 ай бұрын
Yes Home Depot will send you old mowers. I hope you sent it back. We bought a riding mower from them in 2019 and it must have been sitting outside for two seasons. It's a piece of junk that no one can fix.
@johndodo2062 Жыл бұрын
I had a customer give me a 2011 version of this exact mower. Haven't tried to service and start it up yet, but knowing that I have one of the older, better engines makes me not so worried that it won't run after sitting for 2 years
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
The older ones are definitely better!
@nurionz7140 Жыл бұрын
From your experience which mower would you recommend. A honda Hrn or super recycler? Does the super recycler design mulch better than twin blade?
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Hey nurionz that’s a great question! Both models cut remarkably well! I have had zero issues with my Honda in the last three years. The aluminum deck will outlast the Honda deck though! I’ll be doing a comparison video. Probably in the near future!
@psychewardk1d Ай бұрын
Question. I’ve had my 21564 for a year now. The rear trailing flap is holding on with hopes and dreams. Is there an upgraded flap? Is the stock blade good or is there a better upgraded blade that you would recommend? I only mulch. Great review and this video, along with the comparison to the Honda, help me make my decision on which to choose.
@GarageGear Ай бұрын
@@psychewardk1d hey psych! Not sure about an upgraded flap but they are cheap to replace. I would probably cut it down an inch though making it easier to flip back and forth. The stock blades all seem to cut fine for me on these as long as they are sharp. Thanks for watching my friend!
@psychewardk1d Ай бұрын
@@GarageGearThank you for the response! Just looked and the flaps are pretty cheap. I wonder if making a cut up the middle would help alleviate the stresses on the flap when making turns. Essentially two flaps that won’t put stress across the entire piece. I’ll give a it a shot. I do think the blade is pretty good, I was just wondering if there were any aftermarket options. Thanks again and keep up the great work! Bought our first house last year and it was a new build with no lawn. After the amount of money we spent on irrigation and seeding, I definitely wanted a great mower to maintain. Glad I found your videos with great information.
@GarageGear 29 күн бұрын
@@psychewardk1d good idea with the flap. Bet that lawn looks great! Thanks for being a cool fan!
@scottkelly1123 Жыл бұрын
Disregarding mulching (I’m a bag guy) which way do you go, this or a Honda HRX HZA? I’ve always had Toro units but this is my last mower purchase so I want to get it right and a buck or two isn’t the issue…
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Hey Scott! Can’t go wrong with a Honda! The mower bags very well and even gives you the option the mulch some in The process if you really wanted to! Thanks for watching
@mr.rogers7612 2 ай бұрын
My local Toro dealer and long time buddy said 90% claims and repairs that come in are on the Toro Walkers from Lowes.
@GarageGear 2 ай бұрын
Keeps him in business👍
@mr.rogers7612 2 ай бұрын
@@GarageGear Dealers, at least mine have same price points anyway. No reason to go to Lowe's. They are put together and thrown outside by clerks that aren't invested in the quality of the equipment land experience like a dealer is. (In my experience)
@GarageGear 2 ай бұрын
@@mr.rogers7612 totally agree Mr Roger’s!
@Charlie157-lb1et 6 ай бұрын
I have a 11 year old super recycler. Back when all 4 wheels are the same height. Plus I think it’s a 7 gross Torque engine. In your opinion do you think a 2024 model with all the new features plus a 8 gross torque engine would be a decent upgrade? Our yard is very uneven and bumpy so my mower stops in its tracks at times so I wonder if 10 inch rear wheels with extra traction would help a little.
@GarageGear 6 ай бұрын
Hey Charlie! The bigger back wheels would help with easier turning. I would keep that older model over buying a new one though! The older ones are built better! The new ones have issues backing up which I did a video on!
@Charlie157-lb1et 6 ай бұрын
@@GarageGear ah ok. It’s a shame newer models have issues. A more powerful engine plus all the other newer features would have been nice. By the way. Would you happen to know what dual blade accelerators are? I will say too the older style personal pace handle is nice.
@GarageGear 6 ай бұрын
@@Charlie157-lb1et hey Charlie! They’re just not built as good as they used to be. The dual blade accelerator is an additional piece with wings that helps kick clippings around more for better mulching. It usually attaches over the blade on toros.
@bluesdemitra38 Жыл бұрын
Had a Briggs and Stratton snow blower I bought in 2020 and by 2021 it seized up on me when I was trying to run the unit until gas ran out. Luckily Costco returned it but lesson learned-run the other way when you see Briggs and Stratton.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@Ryan-re1rs Жыл бұрын
Yep. I had a blower with a BnS motor and it literally blew up the innards. One day I went to start it and nothing, I changed the oil and gave it a once over and when changing the oil I took out chucnks of metal. I'm talking pieces so big it couldn't come out the oil drain hole.. I searched up what it was but I don't remember off hand what the part was called that cracked and crumbled..
@flooritnfly 10 ай бұрын
Hi, i just got this exact mower and mowed my yard for the first time today. The engine sputtered constantly almost the entire time and about 7-9 times I'd say it felt like the engine was going to totally die.... It never did, it always recovered but it sounded terrible. Any suggestions? I checked the spark plug boot and it seems like it's pushed in all the way to me...
@GarageGear 10 ай бұрын
Hey floor! I would try checking the carb or take it back. Thanks for watching!
@nibs9945 Жыл бұрын
Great review. Answered couple of questions on how it operates & as others have said, sort of disappointed in the design, especially on the engine. Want great cut quality, but with a mower that will be confident with for many years. Do not have a self-propelled mower, but moving to one soon. May have to revisit your review on the Honda HRX. Tks
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Hey nibs appreciate your positive feedback! I’ll be doing a comparison between the two mowers soon! ! We’ll see who comes out on top!
@javier2720 3 ай бұрын
I've been doing alot of homework on todays lawn mowers, have only owned used but now im excited to buy my first ever "Brand NEW" lawn mower and i think this is the one for me
@GarageGear 3 ай бұрын
Awesome Javier! Thanks for watching
@stevekuebler5101 Жыл бұрын
I like everything about my Super Recycler except the Personal Pace. I feel like I’m pushing the mower and I’m exhausted when finished. I have neighbors with the same mower and they have the same complaint. We all had Snappers before and the self propelled system was much better. Looking to get rid of it! Should I try the Honda?
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Depending on they Honda the drive systems aren’t too different than the super recycler. They have thumb drives. See my videos on them to see if they’ll work for you!
@jayt5835 Жыл бұрын
Mine did the same thing until I adjusted the drive cable to make sure at fully travel the PP fully engages the drive belt.
@montanawhite5699 7 ай бұрын
That’s a great tip, if your bag deflates it means it’s clogged or full. I know some people don’t know and they end up doing most of the yard with a full bag.
@GarageGear 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing Montana
@marshmower Жыл бұрын
This might be the year to grab em by the Hondas especially if you already have one that blew up. Yeah the prices are 20-30% higher but they are pulling a "farewell" tour. Will sales keep them around for one more round? Who knows? Might be like Motley Crüe or Rolling Stones. I like toro in general and they are great if you can deal with one stupid part like weak side discharge chute or mail in warranty cards😂.. Super secret tip on the $549 honda 216vkaa: ANY brand engine will fit if it fails. 3 5/16" 25mm shaft required. Found on most self propelled models and some mid-range consumer models. Have y'all got a Sams Club? There's a mower in there. I am tapped out for now but it's a 22" self propelled assembled in USA . $379 in my area but it didn't have to travel far. Ok🎉
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Appreciate you watching another video here on the channel.
@brodygoalie Ай бұрын
Just got my toro super recycler 21 inch mower back from a small engine shop I use. It's just me $175.00. the self propelled system was not working. They told me it was the hub that was completely frozen to the shaft. That is the verbiage they used. They had to cut off and heat? Whatever that means? Please explain. Much appreciated.
@GarageGear Ай бұрын
@@brodygoalie hey Brody I’d have to see it in person to better understand what they did exactly. What year is your recycler?
@brodygoalie Ай бұрын
Not sure. About 5 or 6 years. I would have to get you the model number. 21383 ? I believe?
@GarageGear Ай бұрын
@@brodygoalie the only thing I can think of without seeing it is the transmission shaft be frozen to the area right out side the height adjuster.
@brodygoalie Ай бұрын
@@GarageGear photos attached of my super recycler. Hopefully now my personal pace will work properly now. I used to mow like 11 lawns a week as a side job so the mower is shop worn. Many repairs have been done since i purchased. I only mow my lawn now. No question I want to avoid purchasing a new toro super recycler 21 inch mower but i am not going to put any more big $$ into this mower. Thanks
@GarageGear Ай бұрын
@@brodygoalie did you email me the photos?
@jaybooth4815 Жыл бұрын
I really dig the look of that mower JB! It really “grinds my gears” to see a pretty well designed mower then skimping on things like the plastic carb, having to register the mower to get the side discharge shoot….really! Not needing to change the oil! Come ON! But the cut looked really nice. Definitely not a fan of the handle bar setup. Great review as always! Have a great weekend. Cheers neighbor!
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Hey Jay! This mower could truly dominate if they fine tuned some things! Still a great cut considering! Appreciate you bud! Any barbecue going on lately?
@jaybooth4815 Жыл бұрын
No...we're getting our house resided so things are pretty messed up. Hopefully done this week. The weather should cooperate. Have a great week buddy!
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
@@jaybooth4815 awesome you too my friend!
@rsdokc Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos. Have a 3 year old all black Toro SR. With blade stop. The bar is a much better design and mower has been pretty awesome. Personal pace and the handle shock absorbers are great especially on my hilly and bumpy yard.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Awesome RS! Thanks for sharing!
@marshmower Жыл бұрын
Yep. Those were just starting to change before I got a Super with RWD, Smartstow, handle shocks and personal pace plastic bar. No blade brake on mine thank goodness. I might one day wire a kill switch and delete the operator presence bar. That bar causes wrist damage over the decades. I can prove it. Mowers should have that little wrist strap like a boat has.
@simonamaral9904 Жыл бұрын
I purchased the battery version and my only gripe is that the front wheels don't sit level on the ground ? Can't understand why that is .
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Someone got their measurements wrong lol! Thanks for watching Simon!
@nelly8058 10 ай бұрын
How do you change the oil when the gas cap can’t lock and seal it, once you tilt it on it’s side the gasoline starts leaking out.
@GarageGear 10 ай бұрын
You’ll need to put the mower in the stow position to change the oil. It won’t leak from that position.
@nelly8058 10 ай бұрын
@@GarageGear noted I saw a few videos on the Briggs and Stratton gas cap issue and the solution is to add an O ring size 1 3/4 OD, 1 1/2 ID, 1/8 width, you should advise all your viewers. Btw I’m a new subscriber and love all your videos!
@GarageGear 10 ай бұрын
@@nelly8058 appreciate you nelly
@adamcavalier7126 Жыл бұрын
Honda has a cease of all sales/rentals of their HRX models due to cam shaft problems currently. Also just had a Honda 190cc engine catastrophic failure after only 6 years of residential use with meticulous maintenance each year...piston broke and needless to say, it is no off to the scrap yard nap. Loved the mower, but that’s a big chunk of change to drop on a mower that couldn’t last even with maintenance it got.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this adam!
@briandaltilio334 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I just received mine and it has the dreaded spinning front wheel. Took the wheel and mounting off and couldn't see any way to easily fix it. Has anyone found a fix to this?
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Not as of yet! Appreciate you Brian! Thanks for watching!
@jeffrey.lebowski Жыл бұрын
The super recycler with their “bagging blade” is a suction beast. Mulch over leaves and then go over again with the bagger on and it leaves it spotless.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Awesome Jeff! Good to know! I’m happy with the current blade but I would definitely like to try out the mulching blade! Thanks for sharing!
@dlealchicago 2 ай бұрын
Great video. Reviews aside, what is your weekly go to lawn mower/recycler when it's all said and done??
@GarageGear 2 ай бұрын
Great question! I bounce between my John Deere jx75, my toro commercial 21” and I’ll use my Honda hrn too because that has the striping kit on it! 👍👍👍 what are you mowing with?
@Musicalpa Жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts and concerns about having an aluminum deck?
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
No concerns unless you’re mowing rocks! Lol! Great decks! 👍
@quentinreynhout855 Жыл бұрын
JB if you find any information about which steel carburetor will replace the plastic on on the Toro 21564 190cc. I see allt on Amazon but not sure what model to buy. Thanks for any help.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
I’ll keep you posted if I come across anything. You got it.
@MixingGBP 5 ай бұрын
JB. I’m getting ready for the 2024 season. Need a new mower. I have a 2015 SR since new that is just ok, but noticeably underpowered for my new lawn. Do you still recommend this new Toro?
@GarageGear 5 ай бұрын
Hey Mixing! I do not recommend this mower. It has a serious issue backing up that gets super annoying. Here is a video on that WHY DOES MY TORO SUPER RECYCLER 21564 NOT BACK UP? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d99ol6iZuajbdqc.html
@MixingGBP 5 ай бұрын
Ah ok. Thanks for the info. Too bad….Toro used to be great. Guess I’ll try electric then. I have about 12 Makita LXT batteries so maybe I’ll try a Makita mower.
@Jeremy-gy1uh Жыл бұрын
I hate the side discharge and much prefer how the Honda HRN216 shoots the grass out the back and straight down into the lawn. Can you do that with this lawn mower?
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Hey Jeremy you’ll need the side discharge chute for this one. Without it it will shoot it right into the back cover and not down! Thanks for watching
@Jeremy-gy1uh Жыл бұрын
@@GarageGear Thanks for the info! I would love to see you do a comparison between this mower and the Honda HRN216 if you still have it!
@pieroramacciato9434 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff. How's the plastic carb holding up? See other vids about it. One guy increased hole in main feed.
@GarageGear 11 ай бұрын
Been working fine for me. Not a single sputter yet. Thanks for watching
@paulmysliborski4832 Жыл бұрын
Good review, JB!! How pricey is that TORO hotrod?? Since switching to a rider back in 2018 (old age, Lol) I just use my push mower for trim work. It's a 2002 Poulan Pro with a USA-made 6.5 horse B&S with ZERO bells and whistles. 21 years old, and I plan on keeping it another 21+.......... Lol And these manufacturers claiming that you do not have to change the oil is BULL CRAP!! Just a ploy to sell more over-priced, over-engineered crap IMO. (Old man rant over). 🤣😂
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Hey Paul!!! This guy runs about $800. I bought it in February for $700 one week before the price hike. 😮💨 got it just in time! Keep that old baby running! Planned obsolescence my friend that’s what they’re after! They got to keep you coming back! I’m over here ranting too my friend! Have a good bud!
@paulmysliborski4832 Жыл бұрын
@@GarageGear Good LORD! My first car didn’t cost that much. 🤣🤣
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
@@paulmysliborski4832 hahaha I know right! these mower prices are getting crazier Bills Tailgate lol!
@josephsaucedo8691 25 күн бұрын
It's a side shoot it should be on the side. Not on the back . I can imagine a rock shooting out not going to fill good. 💯✌️
@GarageGear 25 күн бұрын
@@josephsaucedo8691 yeah keep your legs away from that side of the mower
@apexiumim2741 Жыл бұрын
Just bought this lawnmower today and will break it in as you explained. Question.. would you add Motorkote to the engine?
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Hey apex. I would not. Oil or additive?
@apexiumim2741 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Go Bills!!
@shanew7361 Жыл бұрын
I'll stick with my Honda HRX 217HYA 200cc with hydrostatic transmission for the win 🏆
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Can’t go wrong with a Honda. Thanks for watching!
@srtswpak47 Жыл бұрын
Personal Pace is better. No way around it.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
@@srtswpak47 I like personal pace but hate this handlebar design! Way too big!
@jeffsstuff6575 Жыл бұрын
I’m on my 2nd HRX217 in 3 weeks. Both had compression release issues. Weingartz told me Honda is aware and issuing a service bulletin but not sure when the fix will be available. Returning for a 2023 Toro Super Recycler.
@93kronic Жыл бұрын
Best mower I ever bought. Mine is all black. So far, my only complaints is that the fuel tank is not big enough, and the individual height adjustors.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Great 93! Thanks for sharing!
@Tundra_Guy 2 ай бұрын
Can't find this model anywhere. Any links?
@GarageGear 2 ай бұрын
Hey tundra I don’t have a link for the toro 21564 but this link is to the other model liketk.it/4Cgz5
@campbellpaul Жыл бұрын
Good one, JB! The '80s and '90s toros with electric starters (on OHV Suzuki engines) were equipped with alternators (stators) that recharged the battery as you cut.. You could also get a DC wall charger for them, as well.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Those were AWESOME machines. Hard to find now a days. Have a great day my friend.
@campbellpaul Жыл бұрын
@@GarageGear I agree with you on everything, btw.. From the individual height adjustment for the wheels, to the carburetor which could potentially warp when hot. I scoff at the "vortex" idea, also. Where I grew up (in West Texas), mulching didn't really catch on when I worked in lawn care (even today, most customers prefer the grass bagged, from landscapers I've talked to). That's the one thing I really disliked doing when mowing for a lawn service. At least the mowers I used had a BBC to make the bag emptying faster, but some of those lawns were so thick you could only make a couple of passes before having to empty the bag! I have to admit that's ONE of the main reasons why I appreciate those old mowers that so few know about today. I love the ergonomics of those old handles so much that I customized one that had a straight handle for one. That steady amount of nitrogen you get from mulching the grass back onto the soil is something every proud lawn owner should know about by now, as it is essential to a healthy lawn and doesn't promote more needless waste. At least Honda did come up with a good idea that omitted the mulch plug, which is all that I admire Honda mowers for (really). You could actually deceive your customer into thinking all the clippings are being bagged! Darn toro for not thinking of it first!!
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
@@campbellpaul always dishing out the cool information Paul! You ROCK! Can’t wait to try out my new(used) commercial 21” I just Knabbed! I’ll keep you posted!
@joeoak7090 3 ай бұрын
Im trying to buy a lawnmower to start a small business but im dumb as hell trying to learn whatsup also just found out lawnmowers are expensive as hell
@GarageGear 3 ай бұрын
They ain’t getting any cheaper! I would overlook a good used one either!
@jlbfd9389 Жыл бұрын
Hey JB, great review as always. My experience with Toros, about 45 years worth, is similar. The poor engineering on the discharge chute is typical of my experience with the brand. Honda still better… have a great day!👍
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Thanks for following along. Can’t go wrong with a Honda!
@brodygoalie Жыл бұрын
@@GarageGear any rumors that Honda will stop making gas mowers? I believe the toro personal pace is nicer. Toro just needs to raise their bar higher in all around quality. Do you agree? Thanks your vids are awesome
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
@@brodygoalie hey Brody! Toro is done in September! If toro were to raise their quality they could really dominate the mower market! Appreciate you bud!
@brodygoalie Жыл бұрын
@@GarageGear what do you mean Toro is done in September? Thanks
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
@@brodygoalie my bad! I meant Honda!
@gregoryeditor6500 Жыл бұрын
I am thinking of buying it because I have a 12 year old Toro Super Recycler that I have to push now ( no more personal pace) which is really hard because I have arthritis in my knees. I can not decide between Spin-Stop or Electric Start. Excellent review.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Either one will be good! Thanks for watching Gregory!
@rooster7996 Жыл бұрын
Hey Gregory, I get that you may not want to put a lot of $$ into a 12 year old mower, but I personally would try to get it to a reputable repair shop to at least get an estimate. FYI…I have a 14 year old Super Recycler and had my Personal Pace repaired about four years ago and still going. I was told by the repair guy to keep my mower as long as possible as the newer ones are not as good. Good Luck!
@gregoryeditor6500 Жыл бұрын
@@rooster7996 Thanks I may try that.
@elgaitero1 Жыл бұрын
I've had 3....they last about 5 years ... fall apart in year 3...then replace broken height adjust arms ...several times. Likely I'll get a cub cadet next.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@rdick218 2 ай бұрын
how did that Cub cadet work out for you?
@quentinreynhout9161 Жыл бұрын
JB have you put Toro on notice about only three wheels touching the ground? If you do please post what they say.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Not yet perhaps I should! 🤔
@KB-mv1nt Жыл бұрын
I slotted the hole on the wheel bracket, so I can lower the high wheel, it sits level now.
@quentinreynhout9161 Жыл бұрын
Jb looking into the three wheel issue Toro could make a replacement front pivot arm and just lower the hole where the axle bolt goes
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
They could do that! That would be nice to see
@marklloyd4153 Ай бұрын
No oil changes . That’s totally irresponsible of them . I change oil twice a season and once at the end of the season . Oil is a lot cheaper than a thousand dollar mower
@GarageGear Ай бұрын
Got that right! 👍
@jt31713 3 ай бұрын
would you reccomend this 23' model or is the 20' model the way to go?
@GarageGear 3 ай бұрын
I would say the 2020 toro super recycler deck was a little better! 👍
@jt31713 3 ай бұрын
@@GarageGear what the most you’d pay for a used only for a month per owner 20’super recycler ? He’s asking 610$ which I think is too much ? Thanks man ! (Sry for duplicate comment)
@GarageGear 3 ай бұрын
@@jt31713 probably $400! 👍
@kmc8765 Жыл бұрын
Great information. Hows the bagging performance on the Super Recycler? Ive read that grass can get clogged in the ramp that leads up to the bag since it is at such a steep angle.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Hey kmc! Bagging has been fine for me! That hasn’t been an issue for me. Perhaps if the grass was really long! Bag blows right up and deck suction is good! 👍
@kmc8765 Жыл бұрын
@@GarageGearthat is great to hear. Thank you! I mostly mulch but do bag sometimes. I just remember reading somewhere somebody saying the bag doesn't fill up or gets clogged.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
@@kmc8765 you got it kmc!
@apexiumim2741 Жыл бұрын
@GarageGear Actually… totally impressed with the bagging
@chrisb9478 Жыл бұрын
I only buy Honda push mowers 👍🏻
@smallblock412 Жыл бұрын
Hang on to your old ones. No more Honda movers after this year.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Honda makes a great mower! 👍
@jtdundee Жыл бұрын
Perhaps Toro could buy the rights for the Honda mower... it could be their Premium line.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
That would be a smart play! 👍
@SVW1976 Жыл бұрын
Do you know of any replacement blades for a Toro21 inch that would be an upgrade over the factory blade? I don't think I'm getting enough lift with the factory blade.
@joewger Жыл бұрын
See Project Farm , mower blade testing. Oregon Mulching for high CC engines or get Maxpower Mulching or Maxpower 3 in 1 blades.
@SVW1976 Жыл бұрын
@@joewger Nice! Thanks bud.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Project Farm has a good video on that.
@johnwrigley1624 Жыл бұрын
I use the "gator" style blade for a Lawn Boy. Direct fit on my Super Recycler.
@SVW1976 Жыл бұрын
@@johnwrigley1624 The trick is making sure the manufacturer has a blade that fits your particular mower it seams. I watched the Project farm video and the Oregon blade came out on top but doesn't have a blade that fits my Toro. The search continues 😁
@barpatron 3 ай бұрын
They don’t want it to last long b/c they need to sell those ridiculous battery mowers. Thanks for the content, I was thinking about buying a Toro so I don’t get stuck with battery lawn mower, I can see these are garbage. B&S suck big D
@GarageGear 3 ай бұрын
They have gone downhill for sure!
@bill4894 Жыл бұрын
You didn't like the handle bar but yet you used it at the 1:15 mark to maneuver the mower. Could this handle bar have other uses ? Also Im not sure if you covered how the foot guard works when backing up , could you comment on that.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Hey bill I don’t like how bulky it is. The assembly is huge for no reason really. The foot guard drags along as you make your passes. As you back up it will go under the mower. As you go forward again it should slide back out and drag behind. Thanks for watching
@NorthlanderMN Жыл бұрын
The plastic carburetor is easy to fix. It’s very, very simple. Parts are cheap.
@quentinreynhout855 Жыл бұрын
Do you know the model number for the metal carb replacement?
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing rhino!
@NorthlanderMN Жыл бұрын
@@quentinreynhout855 I’ve never seen a metal carburetor to replace the plastic carburetor’s.
@quentinreynhout855 Жыл бұрын
Can you let me know what parts are needed ? I very much appreciate the help.
@marshmower Жыл бұрын
That engine has been around in some form well over a decade. It was used on the weed eater one rear engine rider. And many "pro" model mowers that had caster front wheels.Good to hear about that gotcha handlebar. RIP kidneys. Lol
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Hahah rip kidneys lol! Thanks again for watching marsh!
@marshmower Жыл бұрын
That intake is hilarious. They had a good product with the previous model. Plastic carbs are life. 😋
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Their older recyclers were great!
@jazzfreek54 Жыл бұрын
Glad I kept my 1998 Lawn Boy with spare everything! Plastic parts & the handle really would prevent me from buying one of these.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Glad it has held up for you this long. Enjoy the mow!
@JmanRx81 2 ай бұрын
Nice McLane edger. I used those when I was on a mowing crew. Best edger ever. I found one used a while back and snagged it to restore it.
@GarageGear 2 ай бұрын
Hey Josh it’s rare to see one pop up used. People who have them generally keep them for a long time! Let me know how the restoration goes!
@JmanRx81 2 ай бұрын
@@GarageGear I couldn't ever get the original Tecumseh engine to run right so I put a 3hp Predator engine on it, it bolted right up perfectly and was just the ticket it needed.
@GarageGear 2 ай бұрын
@@JmanRx81 that’s awesome my friend! Those predator engines are great!
@JmanRx81 2 ай бұрын
@@GarageGear seem to be!
@spectre3492 3 ай бұрын
Weird that the discharge chute is in the back instead of the side
@GarageGear 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, some mowers are like that. They do it to cut costs
@joewger Жыл бұрын
The personal pace self propelled mowers are terrible. Briggs and Stratton Cheap Chinese engines are crap! Honda, Kawasaki, are the best. BS brand engines are disposable , so you might as well buy a Craftsman, or Walmart Black Max cheap disposable motor. Best blades are Oregon Mulching for larger CC engines . If not get a Maxpower Mulching, or Maxpower 3 in 1 Blade.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips. All good info.
@shanew7361 Жыл бұрын
Facts they are trash.
@RobertFrancis-ir6rh Ай бұрын
I have $1000 commercial John Deere 21 inch. That thing was three grand.
@GarageGear Ай бұрын
@@RobertFrancis-ir6rh what’s the model number?
@RobertFrancis-ir6rh Ай бұрын
@@GarageGear John Deere js40
@SA99144 Жыл бұрын
Do you have an opinion on masport mowers, have you used them, tested etc
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Hey SA! Never used one before but would like to test one out!
@TheLawnMechanic 3 ай бұрын
Just picked one up so far it seems good, my short wife has some issues with the handlebar Hight.
@GarageGear 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing my friend!
@allistergraham6704 Жыл бұрын
That's an awkward looking place for a side chute, but I might still buy the mower
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Some older mowers used to do the same thing. Thanks for watching!
@Mr-Chris Жыл бұрын
I like this mower, but I don't like the Briggs Engine. Ever since Briggs started to mass produce cheap plastic engines, I have not been a fan of them. They don't last like they used to. The old Flat head Briggs Stratton were higher quailty than these new engines. Toro deck and featers are great, just wish it had a better engine on it.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
100% agree. Thanks for watching!
@rynodlg4249 4 ай бұрын
Does anyone else's start hard, with the electric start, it seams to take 10 seconds or sometimes so long i just pull start it, and it smokes bad at start up, i also addressed the high oil level, and it still does it..I'm disappointed....
@GarageGear 4 ай бұрын
Is your starter charged?
@rynodlg4249 4 ай бұрын
@GarageGear it is, I just did it again yesterday as it's been sitting most of the winter. It's started hard from day one (july 2023) multiple pushes of the button and pulling as well. I have brought it in as well. I'm thinking I might just need to upgrade the battery.. maby I got a lemon...
@rynodlg4249 4 ай бұрын
@GarageGear After the first start, it fires up as fast as yours in the video, In like 1 second . Cold start takes forever ..
@GarageGear 4 ай бұрын
@@rynodlg4249 seen Hondas do the same thing. Wonder if the battery needs to be replaced.
@charlesmonk4431 2 ай бұрын
I am having the problem with hard starts when the engine is cold as well. I always pull start it, and use the electric start when the engine is warm. That is my major complaint with the mower. Other than that, I am mostly satisfied with it. This is my first Toro. I previously used a 20 year old Snapper
@SpaceCadet4Jesus Жыл бұрын
What do you mean you tested this on tall grass? You couldn't find tall grass if you wanted. By the looks of it, each blade of grass on your lawn is within .03cm of each other all year around. 😅 😉 Edit: I'll prove it, I'm coming over there with a micrometer. 😊
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome anytime, SpaceCadet. Let me know when you’re in town and we’ll compare the blades of grass to the micrometer. Anything good this weekend?
@SpaceCadet4Jesus Жыл бұрын
@@GarageGear One of these days...just one of these days!!...I'll be over and take both you and the Mrs. out to dinner. 👍
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
@@SpaceCadet4Jesus we’ll take you because you’re a cool fan! We appreciate you bud! Have an awesome rest of the weekend!
@The_Mace Жыл бұрын
Good review...but do we see an insulated garage door video in our future??
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Time will tell, Mace. What’s the plan for the weekend, brother?
@smallblock412 Жыл бұрын
Good points on the handlebar set up. It should definitely be more compact. Other than that looks like a pretty good machine.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Overall, it’s not bad, Smallblock. I like everything on it except for the handlebars.
@srtswpak47 Жыл бұрын
I have this mower, but don't have a fence like JB. The bigger handle only gets in the way a bit in one part of my yard and overall, I can't really complain about it. I don't think it's a deal breaker.
@Ironmountain81 Жыл бұрын
My 163cc super recycler is a joke.sputter sputter sputter.back to the dealer again tomorrow.should’ve kept my old 2019 super recycler.i might be a Honda owner tomorrow morning.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing brant! 👍
@brodygoalie Жыл бұрын
Hopefully Toro will redo the negatives you have mentioned. Going to wait until they fix these issues.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
We can only hope. Thanks for watching!
@mrbriggs68 4 ай бұрын
The old Briggs flat head engine in 60s even had a plastic carb
@GarageGear 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing briggs
@robbiegolding1831 Жыл бұрын
Honda hrx all day. I have both and only use the Toro because I paid all that $ for it but it doesn't compare. Power, cut quality, build quality, components, engine. It's got nothing on Honda
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Honda makes a great machine! Thanks for watching Robbie!
@montefiveforty1 Жыл бұрын
Always wondered why they don't make it in the 22 inch version?...i'll keep my 2009 Recycler for now and yes that new handle bar system is goofy.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Yep keep it for now! I just don’t understand that handle bar design! Big and bulky for no reason!
@averageguy08 Жыл бұрын
Good mower with terrible briggs & Stratton engine
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
If they could do a better engine on the mower it would be a solid win for them! Thanks for watching
@norge696 Жыл бұрын
Good review. I have a FJ180V with a 1Gal tank that I'll be swapping over onto my SR4. Good times will be had.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
For sure Norge ! That sounds awesome! Thanks for watching bud!
@apexiumim2741 Жыл бұрын
Question about that flimsy rubber flap dragging along the mower. (Not sure what it’s called) Is that really necessary? When I back the unit up, it folds under the mower. Kind of annoying. Never had one on previous lawnmowers or don’t remember and it broke off.
@apexiumim2741 Жыл бұрын
Definitely going to remove that annoying rubber flap.
@LL-mt2nz Жыл бұрын
Why remove the flap? It’s a rock guard and it lays a decent stripe
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Hey apex that is a drag flap that prevents rocks and other objects from shooting out the back. Mine seems to get hung up from time to time too. Could trim an inch off and see if that helps it move back and forth better.
@apexiumim2741 Жыл бұрын
Thanks JB.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
@@apexiumim2741 the Hondas have a rubber one that travels better under the mower. Thanks for watching apex!
@brodygoalie Жыл бұрын
So this is the 190 CC? You like this engine? I hsve to assume better than the 160 CC? Please advise. Thanks
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Hey Brody! Yes and yes. It has more power and less issues. Thanks for watching
@brodygoalie Жыл бұрын
Are you in Florida? If so what town ? thanks
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
@@brodygoalie hey Brody I’m in Buffalo NY
@brodygoalie Жыл бұрын
Is this personal pace or over drive? What is over drive mean vs personal pace? Thanks
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
@@brodygoalie hey Brody this is a personal pace model! Not sure what you mean by over drive?
@BigDaddysGarage Жыл бұрын
Good info in this video!
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Appreciate you Flint! You ROCK bud!
@loocius Жыл бұрын
How Is The Personal Pace Over Bumpy Ground? I Liked The Gear Selector On My John Deere. Its Nice When Mowing Under Branches, You Can Stand Off To One Side.
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Big bumps it can be a little stop and go but overall not bad! Totally agree with the gear selector! Nice that you can stand off to the side and let it go! 👍
@515Mike Жыл бұрын
Another great review JB! I've been a big Toro fan for years but they really dropped the ball on that handle bar! Who wants to push a stroller around on the lawn?😂😂 If they tell you the oil doesn't need to be changed just add it. That means the engine is designed to burn it....🤔👎 Gimmick!
@GarageGear Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, my friend.
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