Is this BSG APOLOGY (The Unheard Edition)

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@BigBingus-jq9rn
@BigBingus-jq9rn Ай бұрын
He didn't even apologize lol, "We're sorry that you feel this way" is NOT an apology for all the bullshit they pulled. They're just upset that we need bend the knee
@thatonepolarstarguy1012
@thatonepolarstarguy1012 Ай бұрын
It’s a backhanded apology. The tarkoomers aren’t getting that.
@TankJr.
@TankJr. Ай бұрын
Thats what Sheef said?
@zaster500
@zaster500 Ай бұрын
u are a Baby "he hurt my Feelings ..he dont apologize...mimimi" 🤣
@ggoose11224
@ggoose11224 Ай бұрын
genuinely why do you care though. they realised their mistake and are course correcting. thats all that matters when youre playing the game.
@Vizixor72
@Vizixor72 Ай бұрын
theres still pay to win
@Luster...
@Luster... Ай бұрын
BSG really loves promoting SPT. They might as well hand over the rights to the whole game to the modders behind SPT.
@everythingpony
@everythingpony Ай бұрын
I mean I got spt free? Just email support and they give it to you
@LazyCatMane
@LazyCatMane Ай бұрын
@@everythingponyor download it from their website lol
@xxtripleokgaming
@xxtripleokgaming Ай бұрын
@@everythingpony tf are you talking about lol
@zaster500
@zaster500 Ай бұрын
You are WRONG af :D WTF Klean called BSG before he streamed SPT... they dont wanna Promote SPT and he had to Delete the VOD. They just understand how much Potential it has and they dont Stoped him streaming it cuz they dont wanna made the community just more pissed.... At the end SPT isnt a Big thing , its actually Boring af at some point. Modding is nice but u just play Solo against Bots at the end. The only Sell point, u just need the standart version. Klean Said this many Times ON Stream. Dont Spray wrong romours
@JJMCvideos
@JJMCvideos Ай бұрын
SPT is free it's a mod for tarkov​@@everythingpony
@bperry573
@bperry573 Ай бұрын
That's gaslighting. That's not an apology. If I said "I am sorry YOU got upset over what I did" to anyone, they would not be happy either
@thatonepolarstarguy1012
@thatonepolarstarguy1012 Ай бұрын
People aren’t seeing this and it shows. It’s textbook gaslighting and only reinforcing what they can get away with. The tarkoomers will be back to playing their game 2 weeks tops. Spineless behavior.
@DonaldMarfison
@DonaldMarfison Ай бұрын
Ok whatever you dont like the apology what does this have to do with the changes being made to appease you? do you want him to beg forgiveness and not do anything about it or are you just complaining to complain?
@almc8445
@almc8445 Ай бұрын
@@DonaldMarfison An apology: "I am sorry WE MADE A BAD CHOICE" Not an apology: "I am sorry YOU FEEL THIS WAY about the things we did"
@FriesOnYt
@FriesOnYt Ай бұрын
@@almc8445so complaining to complain. got it.
@MrVaiza
@MrVaiza Ай бұрын
@@DonaldMarfison its a valid reason to be upset
@Iguessthislldo
@Iguessthislldo Ай бұрын
Sorry I'm late, i haven't purchased priority queuing on this account
@scandallpower
@scandallpower Ай бұрын
You may or may not have access to it later
@Kryzul
@Kryzul Ай бұрын
It will come in waves
@Iguessthislldo
@Iguessthislldo Ай бұрын
@@Kryzul So does my depression but that doesn't mean I want it 😜
@darknostic5323
@darknostic5323 Ай бұрын
kekw funny stuff
@dudebruh8534
@dudebruh8534 Ай бұрын
Dude, why don't you just give KZfaq 250$ so you can get priority commenting?
@bacory_
@bacory_ Ай бұрын
this is NOT an apology.
@TankJr.
@TankJr. Ай бұрын
That´s exactly what Sheef pointed at?
@nasjon2969
@nasjon2969 Ай бұрын
People would have preferred him to apologize with a scripted sentence from chat GPT lol i find this more natural and as a Ukrainian it sound really natural !
@Kerm_ST1
@Kerm_ST1 Ай бұрын
That is also NOT apology 😂
@SMELLSLIKEUPDOG321
@SMELLSLIKEUPDOG321 Ай бұрын
Awe did they hurt your feelings? Apology *
@thundermuffin71
@thundermuffin71 Ай бұрын
Not an apology at all. Stop labeling it as such
@redshift912
@redshift912 Ай бұрын
Did you type that thinking they were going to change the title ?
@nasjon2969
@nasjon2969 Ай бұрын
People would have preferred him to apologize with a scripted sentence from chat GPT lol i find this more natural and as a Ukrainian it sound really natural !
@nasjon2969
@nasjon2969 Ай бұрын
whatever how it would be phrase you drama queen would have a found a way to scream :) u live for those moments !!!!!
@SMELLSLIKEUPDOG321
@SMELLSLIKEUPDOG321 Ай бұрын
Imagine being this salty over pixels and that somebody lied lol u do realize every multi million dollar company lies and they care about money not your feelings lol
@BaronofGermania
@BaronofGermania Ай бұрын
This is not enough. This is a nonapology. What about the Unheard's price at $250? What about the lying about the removal of words on the EOD's webpage?
@Drunkendrakon
@Drunkendrakon Ай бұрын
Really only people angry are EOD owners. Its a non issue for me because I do spt on the basic edition.
@DontWatchAdsJustRefresh
@DontWatchAdsJustRefresh Ай бұрын
We are angry because we dont like to be fucked with. But I guess not everyone is like that 🤡 ​@@Drunkendrakon
@DontWatchAdsJustRefresh
@DontWatchAdsJustRefresh Ай бұрын
You will forget, trust, cyka.
@SkratG
@SkratG Ай бұрын
@@Drunkendrakon only? thats half their player base lol, and the other half that arent EOD also have to worry about them calling the avengers mid raid to kill you, while being immune to sniper scavs. Its too much man.
@user-oz1ny
@user-oz1ny Ай бұрын
250 that ur still not obligated to pay
@virgilm1491
@virgilm1491 Ай бұрын
The real issue is that all of this is so on-brand for BSG. It’s not a one-off, fluke, or miscommunication. Poor communication and treating its community as shitty as possible is just how they operate. Time for a new game!
@cicolo103
@cicolo103 Ай бұрын
Paying 150$ for EOD was ENOUGH of support for a game that was not playable for years.
@CLAWBandet22
@CLAWBandet22 Ай бұрын
and is still hardly playable at times*
@FriesOnYt
@FriesOnYt Ай бұрын
to be fair you bought a game that was in early beta
@CLAWBandet22
@CLAWBandet22 Ай бұрын
@@FriesOnYt while that is understandable it just seems like making extra content and charging 250 is way too much for an unfinished game, also seems like they should have finished the game before making arena too
@Reteq
@Reteq Ай бұрын
​@CLAWBandet22 exactly, adding a new edition and charging an insane amount for it whilst the game is still in beta is ridiculous.
@CLAWBandet22
@CLAWBandet22 Ай бұрын
@@Reteq i also feel it was not smart of them to release another in the works game while the one they've had out for 7 years is not even done yet, it seems to me as they are digging themselves a grave
@DanielAssadiSami
@DanielAssadiSami Ай бұрын
Yeah this is still not good enough, it sets a bad precedent for the future of tarkov and what game studios can do to their customers
@warlocksnevereverdie
@warlocksnevereverdie Ай бұрын
This shit is not unique dog.
@idkaustin2577
@idkaustin2577 Ай бұрын
@@warlocksnevereverdie So because of popularity abusive monetization strategies are justified?
@warlocksnevereverdie
@warlocksnevereverdie Ай бұрын
@@idkaustin2577 no but people acting like we are the only people who ever have had this problem is them playing dumb. EFT might be the only developer in history to actually take "some" ownership when they fuck up. I'm not saying we have to put on a smile but the community could stop listening to the people saying never forgive battelstate when they have always been flaky and shady like this. A large portion of people bitching don't even play the game anymore
@1DanteadamS1
@1DanteadamS1 Ай бұрын
@@warlocksnevereverdie That's irrelevant, It's a shitty scam and it has to be opposed. It's as simple as that. Only reason there are more cases such as this is because someone didn't stand up, so it's not an excuse to not do anything. "One time one person tried to scam another, so no scam ever should be opposed" is what you're saying.
@warlocksnevereverdie
@warlocksnevereverdie Ай бұрын
@@1DanteadamS1 not what I'm saying at all. you are just incapable of understanding nuance.
@simpy3651
@simpy3651 Ай бұрын
went from "i cant regain the trust that was once there" to "it will take a bit to regain the trust"
@mrmanchello3474
@mrmanchello3474 Ай бұрын
All of them are the same. stomp feet make multiple videos on how unhappy they over the situation. give it a week and all of them will have bought it and do multiple videos saying how great PvE mode is.
@denhamleeson3674
@denhamleeson3674 Ай бұрын
Because they have clearly listened to the backlash and are trying to amend, I think that’s fair
@FemboichadClip
@FemboichadClip Ай бұрын
@@mrmanchello3474 well if they don't act like it is the end of the world the devs most likely won't actually change anything. Things are perfectly fine now and the fact that they atleast listened is enough for most ppl.
@thatonepolarstarguy1012
@thatonepolarstarguy1012 Ай бұрын
It’s their income stream what do people expect? Morals? Standards? That goes out the window when money is involved. They’d have to go back to big boy jobs if it wasn’t for BSG. Plain and simple.
@oldenoughtowatchify
@oldenoughtowatchify Ай бұрын
Ethical consumption doesn't exist
@viperion_nz
@viperion_nz Ай бұрын
"Sorry you feel that way" is not an apology
@TankJr.
@TankJr. Ай бұрын
That´s what Sheef said.
@namename-xn3de
@namename-xn3de Ай бұрын
This greedy stupid shit happened with War Thunder and everyone bad mouthed it everywhere, and although there's still problems with the game, its significantly better than it was before the community put pressure on the devs. Keep strong and they'll keep backpedaling.
@wg4112
@wg4112 Ай бұрын
when did this happen with war thunder?
@namename-xn3de
@namename-xn3de Ай бұрын
@@wg4112 May of last year, everyone was sick and tired of all the pricing of the vehicles, the awful bugs the stupid lack of rewards (even if you had single handedly won the match) and general quality of life things.
@mishalw210
@mishalw210 Ай бұрын
who cares War Thunder)
@wg4112
@wg4112 Ай бұрын
@@namename-xn3de yeah thats pretty different from what tarkov did, war thunder didnt directly lie and scam its most loyal playerbase
@namename-xn3de
@namename-xn3de Ай бұрын
@@wg4112 Uh yeah it kind of did, by that logic no Free 2 play game can scam their audience since you can grind it all for free. (In 6 years)
@evidicus
@evidicus Ай бұрын
I wish anyone who buys the “Arena Didn’t Sell” edition was forced to wear the special armband that comes with it. Ten years ago I quit playing MechWarrior online after PGI started selling $500 gold mechs. But before I left, it was glorious watching anyone who dropped into a mission with a gold mech get instantly TK’d off the spawn. People were more willing to lose matches than team up with bootlickers. It happened so much that PGI threatened to ban people for “bullying”. That’s exactly what should happen to anyone who buys this $250 edition of Tarkov. It’s not about the edition itself. It’s not even about the money. It’s because every purchase is a validation of Nikita’s underhanded bullshit.
@User-gd5un
@User-gd5un Ай бұрын
Saying “sorry you feel the way that you do” is not an apology at all lol
@trashcompactorYT
@trashcompactorYT Ай бұрын
"I'm sorry you feel that way" isn't an apology, Sheef
@ajm21582
@ajm21582 Ай бұрын
I feel like a new edition like Unheard would have been ok if they had just honored their EOD promise from the start and not acted wonky about changing the verbiage to eliminate past promises in the manner that they did. $250 is still a lot for access to any single game but most of the outrage would just be over an inflated price point and not the entire integrity of their company.
@phlave
@phlave Ай бұрын
Can we stop saying that "EoD owners will get it FOR FREE"? It's not fucking free. It was 150$, payed in advance. Let's not forget that we are owed what we bought, and it's not charity when they try and not give it to us and then cave in to outrage.
@AquaAK723
@AquaAK723 Ай бұрын
quote from my conversation with a friend about the situation, "Putting the rug back after you pulled it out doesn't remove the carpet burns, and the person you pulled the rug on still has to move." the line has been drawn in the sand. BSG does NOT care about honoring agreements, they think the consequences of their actions end at a "we're sorry that you feel that way" on Reddit, and they see no value in their 8+ year most hardcore supporters aside from the potential future revenue they can get from an upgrade to Unheard edition. this game is dead to me.
@FeStratagem
@FeStratagem Ай бұрын
As a business perspective, the offline should be sold as a base and it getting locally hosted on persons computer and working from there, too much is ran on their own servers.
@markosz22
@markosz22 Ай бұрын
If they were serious about that, they would have officially supported SPT.
@almc8445
@almc8445 Ай бұрын
But then they couldn't shittily justify charging an extra $100 for them...
@b20rock
@b20rock Ай бұрын
Hear me out. Why are they selling $250 product if they don't have server capacity? That's just scummy AF.
@almc8445
@almc8445 Ай бұрын
They have server capacity. It's a single player game.
@user-ye2vn4dh8h
@user-ye2vn4dh8h Ай бұрын
Not for 40% of the player base that has EOD
@almc8445
@almc8445 Ай бұрын
@@user-ye2vn4dh8h what?…
@alecdelcambre6995
@alecdelcambre6995 Ай бұрын
The most insane part to me is that the people who already paid $250 aren’t getting refunded now they’re selling it at a HUGE discount and are getting a key for another account, which they probably would never use. And the idea of it being for a friend to try the game is just so hopefully they decided to upgrade it too. It’s a complete smack in the face, basically them saying “we already got your money get fucked”.
@zaidozero
@zaidozero Ай бұрын
The offline mode should be open to everyone; EFT is still in Beta. Anything they add isn't dlc since the game HASN'T FKN RELEASED! What a greedy move and a shitty non-apology.
@BrandonRecon117
@BrandonRecon117 Ай бұрын
Imagine paying 250 to play PVE when you can get it for free with SPT, that has had mod support since the beginning along with features that BSG took without compensating the people that created them
@Siddwraith
@Siddwraith Ай бұрын
they should offer some kind of game points to buy other items like stash space or the clothes etc for those who spent more instead of just a game code
@LaBomba075
@LaBomba075 Ай бұрын
Fuck eft i will play grey zone.
@wilhelmhetrick8948
@wilhelmhetrick8948 Ай бұрын
The que times aren't long in offline mode. It's a bug and all you do is restart matchmaking if you don't find a match within one minute.
@_Dippy
@_Dippy Ай бұрын
i love regular tarkov but i cant play it like i used to. i might get on for a few hours each week and i dont always want to run solo raids. i think the pve mode will give many players more access to the game without having to grind it from wipe just to get lvl 30 before the next wipe because you dont play like these other people. little more laid back and a little more "predictable"
@Eternally_Ninja
@Eternally_Ninja Ай бұрын
Unheard addition still has: -2 extra pocket slots as 2x1 for early game P2W. -180 rounds of the best ammo for that early P2W. -Ammo, weapon and junk boxes for MORE early P2W. -Lv3 starting skills, because Nikita cant stop ruining the early game. -More slots in flea market for cheaters and RMT. -INSTANT access to early tests server for 250$ that should be going to players who have 2K+ hours in the game, because they are the ones qualified to test anything. -Gamma container still in unheard edition, even though it was "UNIQUE" to Eod. -Mark of the unheard: the item that gives you 50% off cash items and makes scavs that are 60m away not shoot you. -Distress signal: the item that lets you call EVERYONE on your friends list to join your raid. ^^^WHAT^^^IS^^^ALL^^^THIS^^^GARBAGE^^^ dont buckle because BSG took back 30% of the atrocious garbage they said.
@1DanteadamS1
@1DanteadamS1 Ай бұрын
The whole "discount for eod" is bad too, it's still a way to sell more stuff to people who were promised everything for free and that they won't have to pay for anything, and "unique" gamma is still not unique
@TheLemonist
@TheLemonist Ай бұрын
I don’t mind all of you people hating. I happily enjoy playing pve tarkov after upgrading from EOD. Funny that I get hate for that now. Anyways. IF you want to hate and ramble on some bullshit, at least get your facts right. The only p2w thing in entire tarkov is the gamma container if you are too bad to go for kappa. All the rest ist neglectible and the unheard edition change that. Okay maybe the 2 pocket slots are fine but tbh, I couldn’t care less. It’s not a major advantage. The starting gear is irrelevant since you start racking up millions anyway really fast. The unheard item is totally trash since you aren’t allowed to kill any scavs with it, if you don’t want to lose all your rep. The signal item is not even in the game and I assure you if it comes, they will have a way to balance it. Also there are only a small ampint of skills you start at lvl 3, totally useless aswell. Gamma container: people wanted it to be taken out for years. Then they want it back because it’s „pay 2 win“ and people can’t get it anymore. So all I am saying, if you hate the game, stop playing and stop sucking each others internet dicks and form a front against bsg. Me personally can somewhat understand their actions.
@TwiggehTV
@TwiggehTV Ай бұрын
@@TheLemonist Its not P2W to be able to call back your whole squad after they died? BRUH Fighting a 5man with an Unheard ed. is now effectively fighting a 9man since the last guy can call back his 4 friends. A NINE MAN. A gamma container lets you save some ingame money, who gives a fuck when money is everywhere. I would trade a 20slot gammacontainer for the ability to FREAKING CALL EXTRA PMCs INTO THE FIGHT
@TheLemonist
@TheLemonist Ай бұрын
@@TwiggehTV dude that item is not in the game. It’s not even explained how it’s going to work und I won’t cry about a subject to change that’s going to be in the game in years.
@TwiggehTV
@TwiggehTV Ай бұрын
@@TheLemonist Thats not what i asked. Is it, or is it not, P2W to pay money to be able to summon people to a fight? That is EXPLICITLY what the item is supposed to do, and you pay for that premium.
@markosz22
@markosz22 Ай бұрын
1. A problem they created - Their back-end is probably an unoptimized mess just like the entire game is, taking half a server to run a single match and few AIs. No wonder matching is 5-10 minutes. 2. Even if it was true, it would be very limited modding support seeing how the game still runs on THEIR servers. But anything promised "after release" is a lie, because it's not going to happen. 3. Still pay to win. 4. "Fool me once..." 5. At a snail's pace. 8 years of development and still an unoptimized rough beta and can't even nail down the basic game mechanics.
@Avatar619
@Avatar619 Ай бұрын
Rule 1 is you NEVER give money back if you can help it. That's why the game keys makes sense, they already have the money, they're not gonna give it back, so what do you do to compensate people? "Oh a free game key!"
@coolbydefault
@coolbydefault Ай бұрын
i'm literally getting in the PVE MODE instantly after the loot pools finish loading .. havent had a que time over 1 minute in my last few raids PVE zone
@stevejob7898
@stevejob7898 Ай бұрын
"we sorry that the community is experiencing these feelings" is not an apology, it's saying " you're mad and that's on you"
@RealBurgunfaust
@RealBurgunfaust Ай бұрын
"I'm sorry you feel that way," is never an apology. "I'm sorry I made you feel that way," is.
@thatvioletguy7484
@thatvioletguy7484 Ай бұрын
I don’t understand why we have to pay for unheard things like the pockets and the flare or radio that was supposed to be base game features…
@The_Devil_Riser
@The_Devil_Riser Ай бұрын
EOD would still be around if EOD users didn’t cry about it being a limited edition because they were worried about new people paying to win
@tytt4594
@tytt4594 Ай бұрын
The ai in sptarkov is nuts. It makes me wonder why it isn’t like that in the main game? The ai can rush you when you heal/reload, they peak corners, blind with flashlights, bunny hop, flank etc. rats chads Timmy ai etc it’s crazy.
@Draggonmore
@Draggonmore Ай бұрын
So i havent purchased "Unheard" im EOD but lets say i did buy it and later down the line they release extra stuff for EOD making it better id lose out on that because i wouldn't be able to revert back to EOD im assuming. I think they should just upgrade all EOD to unheard and give out keys to those who upgrade from EOD and spent the money.
@mikaelbiilmann6826
@mikaelbiilmann6826 Ай бұрын
Giving EOD owners the PvE... for 6 months... Nikita purposefully omitted that part... plus the non-apology... He is just sorry he got caught and got this kind of reaction to the scamming and lying.
@Dathwish-uk2bu
@Dathwish-uk2bu Ай бұрын
nikita didn't apologize, he said sorry for how we felt, like it was our fault for being mad that he pulled the rug out from under us EOD owners. as for the rest of his post, he's just saying what we want to hear at this point, and he will go back on it. I 100% promise this. just like when he said EOD owners would get arena first, in waves based on when you bought it, yet A LOT of og EOD owners didn't get arena till the day of public release. but if you bought it, you got instant access.... nikitas words have no merit at this point. as for the mod support on PvE, its gonna be a joke, or he will delete and say he never said it. lets not forget he said it wouldnt be till 1.0 release......which is never coming given the current state of the game. What he need to do is team up with spt and make that the official PvE mode. spt is more polished than tarkov is at this point and nikita is too thick headed to see that.
@Just_G4
@Just_G4 Ай бұрын
I love that you own up to "I bought EOD for stash space and big safe container" I see most people even after this edition came out saying that EOD was not P2W and they didn't buy it for the extra advantages....
@jay2kswagg464
@jay2kswagg464 Ай бұрын
How is it 70% off for EOD when it was $100 base and buyers will pay $50-$56 with taxes how’s that 70% they lying again or is 70% considered 50% off to BSG I mean 70% would be $30 instead of $50 from original $100
@user-ye2vn4dh8h
@user-ye2vn4dh8h Ай бұрын
An ounce what ur smoking please
@Cwayze
@Cwayze Ай бұрын
His suggestion at 8:40 was literally what I suggested, they need an entry level point for the game. That’s what should have happened
@okeguy9379
@okeguy9379 Ай бұрын
i stay dont understand they said eode gets it free but under it they just said the put the price on half so am really confused
@wirhly
@wirhly Ай бұрын
I knew that the offline mode was going to be riddled with bugs but the whole being able to sell things from offline mode was one that I didn't think would happen (given the claim is true however)
@Bean5prout
@Bean5prout Ай бұрын
I bought tarkov pre alpha, I bought EOD a few years later. If I paid $.20 every time I launched tarkov or for every hour I spent in game I would owe BSG money. So I am more than happy to support good developers and buy unheard. That being said, I do not really want the extra items or perks.... The grind is getting a bit boring but I don't want to start ahead of everyone.
@markosz22
@markosz22 Ай бұрын
"good developers" You know it's been 8 years and EFT is still in this early beta feeling state?
@Bean5prout
@Bean5prout Ай бұрын
@@markosz22 you know it's been 8 years and I still play Tarkov. There's still quests I haven't done and parts of maps I haven't fully explored, weapons I haven't really used, there's friends I've made playing that I still talk to outside of game. It may be in Alpha still, but it's been playable for a long time. It has had its issues, many off them,.it's been more than unpalyable because of cheaters and BSG hasn't always listened to the players. They are far from perfect. But its still my favourite game, no other has actually got my heart racing and I've had 8 years of enjoyment for $150.... I feel like I've ripped BSG off.
@Bean5prout
@Bean5prout Ай бұрын
@@markosz22 although I'm not at all impressed by this pay to win mentality that's come from nowhere.
@VerrueckterKerl85
@VerrueckterKerl85 Ай бұрын
I hope BSG releases the PVE version as soon as possible. I‘m sick of starting over and over again because of stupid „wipes“. As soon as PVE is available i‘m out of the „online“ version until they stop that „wipes“!
@joeluna7289
@joeluna7289 Ай бұрын
So then what about all the other extra gear all the unheard of editions get?
@olternaut
@olternaut Ай бұрын
I just want them to remove the pay 2 win features of the unheard addition.
@oliverhart737
@oliverhart737 Ай бұрын
What are the pay to win features
@olternaut
@olternaut Ай бұрын
Well let's see, you will have the ability not to be targeted by AI sniper scavs beyond 60 meters, you will have pockets extended to 6 slots, and here's the kicker....you will be given a special radio to call your friends on your friends list to spawn to your location as backup when you get in trouble. Nikita has lost his mind!@@oliverhart737
@fairTX
@fairTX Ай бұрын
brother that's not an apology. It's like they said "we're sorry you feel that way but we're gonna continue with the gaslighting."
@666maidenfan
@666maidenfan Ай бұрын
This isn't enough and settling for it will lead to them doing similar stuff in the future. The items that they're adding go against what they've promised and are leading to a place where microtransactions are the norm, except they'll probably not call them microtransactions. The fact that it wasn't an apology and more of a sucks you feel that way not we're sorry for our actions. There's a difference Having separate editions is fine, but going back on previous promises and having a money grab isn't okay. They could have released more cosmetics if they needed more money.
@rebel4466
@rebel4466 Ай бұрын
Nikita invented macrotransactions here
@ryanmaris1917
@ryanmaris1917 Ай бұрын
My first match took awhile to match but every match since then is 1-3mins max.
@JohnnyD69FG
@JohnnyD69FG Ай бұрын
The old "non apology apology". Don't trust them now.
@residentevil2334
@residentevil2334 Ай бұрын
Easiest way to get into pve if it's taking more than 2 minutes back out of matchmaking and typically after 2 trys it'll load almost immediately
@DenpaCake
@DenpaCake Ай бұрын
How are they going to provide mod support? The PvE mode still runs on their servers.
@Herne0011
@Herne0011 Ай бұрын
They will probably monetize mods aka Ark Survival Ascended and use Overwolf to enforce compliance. Remember I called it here first :).
@Kovar99YT
@Kovar99YT Ай бұрын
if u add a new mode to a game, you have to download it, "downloadable content"
@TheBeefPudding
@TheBeefPudding Ай бұрын
You see it here folks. Sheef confirmed damage control for bsg.
@xscope_x1583
@xscope_x1583 Ай бұрын
I paid the full $100 and have gotten 0 extra things from the $50 price drop I've been scammed ive gotten no key either
@StupifiedTrooper
@StupifiedTrooper Ай бұрын
I upgraded to unheard for 50, that's reasonable and what the price should have been to begin with. Also i think the "were sorry that you feel this way" is a mistranslation, but I'm a devils advocate type of person anyway so who knows.
@tinyseapancake2674
@tinyseapancake2674 Ай бұрын
Paying $250 for "PVE" but it's not PVE.. a new low for gaming company
@user-ye2vn4dh8h
@user-ye2vn4dh8h Ай бұрын
What are you talking about? How its ’not’ pve
@tinyseapancake2674
@tinyseapancake2674 Ай бұрын
Not player vs environment it's literally copy and paste of a server just with a new price tag. EOD purchases were promised DLC then they change the website description of it last minute, I seriously hope you didn't purchase this garbage
@ifoundmemallet3394
@ifoundmemallet3394 Ай бұрын
So can you download and play SPT now without being banned??
@timmcgee8380
@timmcgee8380 Ай бұрын
Yup, just dont open the bsg launcher while using spt. They literally cannot detect spt if used/installed correctly
@collinhumphreys5308
@collinhumphreys5308 Ай бұрын
Nikita can barely speak english, I dont think he intentionally meant to say "sorry you feel that way". there's a pretty significant language barrier here that I think most people are purposely ignoring.
@CallMeZer
@CallMeZer Ай бұрын
yeah, Im still really disappointed. It shouldnt even have gotten to this state. They always get away with making bad decisions, show that they dont care about the playerbase and then when we react bad enough they just get a slap on the wrist. Its honestly a little absurd. If I could go back I would have never gotten EoD, I cannot wait for more games to develop in this space. BSG needs to do better.
@joaomiguelxs
@joaomiguelxs Ай бұрын
I played SPT for a couple of months b4 buying a Tarkov account 4 years ago, so I could get a feel for the game. Single player as a base or trial makes total sense to me. Now listen to this: it seems theres a hack going around that can find its way into a PvE co-op raid, vacuum clean all the loot and then take all that shit to a PVP for real account. off the charts insane RMT peak. Watch the Flea market.
@atulk603
@atulk603 Ай бұрын
So now what is the cost
@thisisphteven
@thisisphteven Ай бұрын
I have a hard time taking anything Nikita say serious since the websites he claims they didn't change still hasn't been reverted to their original state. As long as the EOD description and the Season Pass description isn't reverted to what we bought, the scam is still ongoing...
@neen067
@neen067 Ай бұрын
Hi Sheef, great channel, as a standard tarkov user I missed out on EOD and that’s fine but I agree with you that pve offline could be sold separately, I would buy it, being from Oz to upgrade to this new version would cost me $370 Aussie dollars just nuts, can’t justify that for a video game regardless how good it is.
@CrityCrit
@CrityCrit Ай бұрын
You spent $100 then they give you a key for the game LMAOOOOO That is legit the worse thing they’ve pulled so far.
@AlienEnjoyer
@AlienEnjoyer Ай бұрын
way back in the day, before co-op was a thing, offline tarkov used to run on your pc. you'd get lower frames bc your pc essentially was the server, handling all the calculations for the scav ai, etc etc. WHY CAN'T IT STILL BE THIS WAY?????????? "it can't be this way bc what about all the load on your pc" p2p or "peer to peer" matchmaking has been a thing for literal decades, its the reason you can still find servers that have players on the classic modern warfare 2.
@timmerjoy8781
@timmerjoy8781 Ай бұрын
This isnt an apology. This is a slap in the face to EOD owners
@afrowolf1399
@afrowolf1399 Ай бұрын
Hopefully they give us the pockets, id only upgrade if i kept my gold name with a crown. IMO EoD gets everything that Unheard gets the only reason unheard should be expensive is because its a current day "EoD". There's no longer a sale on it
@krelekari
@krelekari Ай бұрын
Also they really goofed adding the "will get future dlc's" or it's a sales tactic just the same as EOD and never meant to be a kept promise
@hereticaljake740
@hereticaljake740 Ай бұрын
Just do the hosting client-side for single-player, and we wouldn't have server issues with it. Sometimes it feels like they don't want solutions. Only problems, it seems.
@DylanKreutzer
@DylanKreutzer Ай бұрын
The part that I'm most pissed about is how pay to win the Unheard edition is. It is way worse than the EOD perks ever were.
@Biggiejohn
@Biggiejohn Ай бұрын
Just make the wave access go from earliest support date. Very simple. Tarkov turned into a pvp community, but what attracted people at the start were gun modification fanatics who simply just wanted to kit/mod irl guns. I am one of those who has been waiting 7 years just so i can load in and kit out how I feel and give it some test play. The initial investors mainly came for the gun realism not the pvp.
@Wdbjr12345
@Wdbjr12345 Ай бұрын
Why does the offline mode need to be hooked to the internet? Makes no sense. I’ve played it it’s alright and it’s fun to mess around because you always get your gear back.
@PeacefullManV
@PeacefullManV Ай бұрын
Question is if EOD upgrade to unheard edition will keep EOD benefits :D that probably will be question for another war.
@jamesward2141
@jamesward2141 Ай бұрын
It’s a good resolution to the situation, but in reality a very small percentage of players are going to waste time in pve mode
@jvhotblast2706
@jvhotblast2706 Ай бұрын
I still think EOD players need the radio, as its new content that we downloaded. Or just remove the radio. Unheard should just get bigger pockets, skills, starting stuff and extra rep. That seems very fair to me.
@fruitpie9588
@fruitpie9588 Ай бұрын
bro this game has given u this platform and the fans which are so dedicated watching you. you were never gonna outright never just leave the game
@ItsShagZ
@ItsShagZ Ай бұрын
they dont NEED any servers for Solo/coop mode..... they could just code it to where the HOST is the HOST and use their PC
@smudgekenobi7126
@smudgekenobi7126 Ай бұрын
A step in the right direction I think we all agree. For myself tho, too little too late. I’ve lost faith and no longer trust BSG and it’s management. What do you guys feel?
@jeremygaylord6205
@jeremygaylord6205 Ай бұрын
Not enough should not be 250 dollars for a pve co op. Bunch of wtfs. I'm not going to pay for co op as I already did.
@stormyRust
@stormyRust Ай бұрын
We’re being absolutely milked
@Triso86XT
@Triso86XT Ай бұрын
Can somebody explain me how he PvE impacts the PvP? You can make progress in PvE (level, perception and so on) and you could use this when you go into PvP?
@kr4toons983
@kr4toons983 Ай бұрын
So im upgrade from STD to Unheard i will not get free key ? it said for EoD upgrade . and how about me ?
@everythingpony
@everythingpony Ай бұрын
Yeah, EOD, not std , you didn't buy EOD so you don't get the discount
@undefinedxx55
@undefinedxx55 Ай бұрын
Why do you have an std
@kr4toons983
@kr4toons983 Ай бұрын
@@everythingpony I didn't mean i wand discount but i will get Free Tarkov key code like EoD will get ?
@kr4toons983
@kr4toons983 Ай бұрын
@@everythingpony cuz i bought Unheard first day BSG release it
@TankJr.
@TankJr. Ай бұрын
@@kr4toons983 Ask the BSG support?
@wowawewah
@wowawewah Ай бұрын
Reminds me of the GOT directors who rushed it so they could move onto their other project.
@dro0gi
@dro0gi Ай бұрын
I didnt get anything for free, I paid 150€ for this!
@stevendavies98
@stevendavies98 Ай бұрын
There a song, and it goes something like "your only sorry you got caught", Thats BSG.
@Ledd_Official
@Ledd_Official Ай бұрын
Here's what's strange, SPT is free from a bunch of modders with NO funding. BSG really should've worked together with them to implement a better system and quality product. there'd still be server cost of course but there are other ways around that with skins, voice packs, etc. The Audience they would bring in from attracting new players with PvE would be very Profitable in the long run. Love the game, disappointed with BSG.
@CrisURace
@CrisURace Ай бұрын
waiting in queue for an "offline" mode is outrageously bad design.. should be complete client side unless you wanna coop.
@nick9399
@nick9399 Ай бұрын
“Sorry I got caught”
@JJ3nkins89
@JJ3nkins89 Ай бұрын
So nothing about removing p2w.
@skyebaldwin3087
@skyebaldwin3087 Ай бұрын
I'm OK with waiting for offline mode. I was annoyed about the Arena one because I still didn't get access until after wipe day. That's what annoyed me. Right now, I'm done with PVP until wipe. I'm 100% good with waiting for PvE. I wish this unheard edition didn't put a sour taste in my mouth. I would have spent money on cosmetics and maybe some stash lines - but I'm not buying shit until they right their wrongs. Even then I don't know. It's going to take a lot for me to even semi-trust them again.
@ROCK1N420
@ROCK1N420 Ай бұрын
Standard edition users that never had the opportunity to buy EOD still have to pay 200$
@rayenwiller7879
@rayenwiller7879 Ай бұрын
Nikita still not admit the unheard edition is totally a wrong
@evidicus
@evidicus Ай бұрын
It doesn’t change the fact that BSG lied about the definition of DLC, then doubled down on it and even tried to stealth update the EOD description on their website to gaslight people. If you only exhibit integrity when you’re called out, you have no integrity. If you’re only sorry when you’re caught, you’re not sorry. And anyone who buys the new edition is part of the problem. Period. BSG turned up the heat too high, too quickly and all the frogs jumped out of the pot. And now that BSG has walked it back a couple of degrees, the dumb little frogs will jump back in the water and croak “They listened!” while slowly getting boiled alive. 🐸
@tikasauer
@tikasauer Ай бұрын
A 250$ "Extra Extra" version, from a game that have the same bugs since 2016, glitches and cheaters
@chancejensen4355
@chancejensen4355 Ай бұрын
Okay, well we need to pump the brakes on the witch hunt. Everyone should establish what would satisfy the community after this rather than just "THIS ISNT GOOD ENOUGH" till the end of time.
@zeezee3263
@zeezee3263 Ай бұрын
All that crap even after the discount, is still not worth 50 dollars. I'd say 20 to 30 at best, but at this point, imma just rely on grayzone warfare to be good on launch or decent till a couple of updates, cheaters out here targeting unheard edition players anyway so imma just take a long break from tarkov
@tig4605246
@tig4605246 Ай бұрын
Well, I would say the best solution for all of us are leaving Tarkov for good. But that’s tough, especially for streamers
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