RTX 4060 vs 4070 in 2024 is it worth an extra $250?!?!?
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Күн бұрынThis review of the RTX 4060 vs the RTX 4070 focuses on finding what the actual end-user experience with these products would be like. Which often isn't as simple as "x more frames".
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Chapters:
0:00 GPU reviews don't always show the real differences in user experience
2:58 Summary of launch review stats for 4060 vs 4070
4:00 8GB VRAM vs 12GB VRAM
5:12 Current pricing 4060 vs 4070
6:00 My 4070 is Founders Edition, 4060 is ASUS DUAL OC
6:32 Avatar 1080p Ultra
6:40 Avatar 1440p Ultra
7:07 Avatar 1440p Ultra DLSS Q
7:34 Avatar 1440p High
8:01 Realistic 1440p settings Avatar
8:29 Lords of the Fallen 1080p Ultra
8:55 Lords of the Fallen 1080p High
9:23 Realistic 1080p Settings Lords of the Fallen
9:50 Lords of the Fallen 1440p Ultra
10:17 Lords of the Fallen 1440p Ultra DLSS Q
10:45 Lords of the Fallen 1440p High
11:11 Realistic 1440p Settings Lords of the Fallen
11:39 RoboCop 1080p Epic
12:06 RoboCop 1080p High
12:33 Realistic 1080p settings RoboCop
13:00 RoboCop 1440p Epic
13:28 RoboCop 1440p Epic DLSS Q
13:55 RoboCOp 1440p Epic DLSS 3 Q with FG On
14:22 RoboCop 1440p High
14:49 Realistic 1440p settings RoboCop
15:17 Starfield 1080p Ultra
15:44 Realistic 1080p settings Starfield
16:11 Starfield 1440p Ultra
16:38 Realistic 1440p settings Starfield
17:05 Alan Wake 2 1080p High
17:32 Realistic 1080p settings Alan Wake 2
18:00 Alan Wake 2 1440p High
18:27 Realistic 1440p settings Alan Wake 2
18:54 Alan Wake 2 High with RT High DLSS Q
19:21 Different RT experiences Alan Wake 2
19:49 Cyberpunk 2077 1080p RT Overdrive DLSS Q
20:16 Cyberpunk 2077 1080p RT Overdrive DLSS 3 Q with FG On
20:43 Realistic 1080p Ray Tracing settings Cyberpunk
21:10 Cyberpunk 2077 1080p Ultra
21:37 Cyberpunk 2077 1440p Ultra
22:04 Realistic 1440p settings Cyberpunk 2077
22:34 Resident Evil 4 Remake 1080p Max
22:59 Realistic 1080p settings Resident Evil 4
23:26 Resident Evil 4 Remake 1440p Max
23:53 Resident Evil 4 Remake 1440p Prioritize Graphics
24:20 Baldur's Gate 3 1080p Ultra
24:47 Baldur's Gate 3 1440p Ultra
25:15 CoD MW3 1080p Basic
25:42 CoD MW3 1440p Basic
26:09 Final Thoughts
@GamingBits-py1or 2 ай бұрын
I really like this idea. Instead of reviewing it like "how much fps do thse cards get at x settings", you review like "at what settings do these cards get 60/120/170/240 fps?" I really like this. Not sure it entirely gets around thise things like automatic (intransparent) lower res textures even if it condraticts settings, but given that - i assume - most people go for FPS rather than quality (at least up until a point), i really want to see more of this.
@DrLogic_ 2 ай бұрын
this
@johndelabretonne2373 2 ай бұрын
This is the Way!
@antondovydaitis2261 2 ай бұрын
💯
@adpt_music 2 ай бұрын
It’s not a new idea HardOCP used to bench this way but it works much better in video format IMO and Daniel presents the information very well
@adeptuspotatocus6451 2 ай бұрын
I like it, too. It's a lot more realistic.
@Nateyo 2 ай бұрын
tiny daniel owen is hilarious
@Adri9570 2 ай бұрын
the only thing that can defeat that is... ...Antman. :v
@mongkolchaik5865 2 ай бұрын
Fr
@medvejonka746 2 ай бұрын
it is the peak humor on god
@danielowentech 2 ай бұрын
This time I uploaded it with audio lol! Thanks to the quick commenters on the previous upload who caught the issue. (Actually what happened was I accidentally uploaded the benchmark footage file instead of the full review file with me talking, etc).
@Z3t487 2 ай бұрын
😂 No Problem Daniel
@GaeilgeItalianoYT 2 ай бұрын
I tried to watch it and was like umm did my headphones break 😆
@zushikatetomotoshift1575 2 ай бұрын
Hello I got a great deal for ASUS TUF rtx 4070 for 400 usd/ 600 cad new. Bet you will never find that card for so cheap.
@zushikatetomotoshift1575 2 ай бұрын
That is also after taxes.
@GeekBastion 2 ай бұрын
it happens man :)
@christophv.9506 2 ай бұрын
Daniel, you`re by far the best and most versatile mousepointer on the whole interweb. Keep doing what you`re doing! You`re awesome.🙂
@danielowentech 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! Ever since I was a small child, I have always aspired to become the world's greatest mouse pointer.
@GeekBastion 2 ай бұрын
@@danielowentech mission accomplished!
@antondovydaitis2261 2 ай бұрын
🎶 D-A-N I-E-L M-O-U-S-E! 🎵
@ZeroZingo 2 ай бұрын
Yes, this is what you shine at. A channel with normaly a positive tonality, showing us what we can do with the hardware and not focusing so much on the can't. However, if a card can't play a game at reasonable settings it is important to know this as well. Treat us as adults that can make our own descision if a product is right to buy. Also, you don't need to have (and I don't think that you do) super focus on the commercial aspect of the products. Most reviews at least I watch, I watch because I'm interessted in hardware and what it can do, not because I buy each and every thing. The video you got here is a great example of you doing what you do best!
@ehenningsen 2 ай бұрын
Me too. At best, cynism is ignorant or misinformed. At worst, it reveals or breeds narcissistic behavior.
@EditUMedia 2 ай бұрын
Now we need an official Daniel Owen mouse cursor
@glowinTHX 2 ай бұрын
1 minute into the video and you're bringing into light what is obvious to oldschool PC Gamers but not so obvious to people that blindly follow what other people say and do. You're one of the best out there Daniel 👏👏👏👏
@DuXQaK 2 ай бұрын
Great review format. Getting both the head-to-head and fps by settings comparisons is v.helpful info
@TheSquarri 2 ай бұрын
If you feel bad, remember me - I bought 4070 two weeks before the release of the Super version
@robbrg246 2 ай бұрын
I did the same but I got it on a boxing day sale. I still paied less than what it's being sold for new today. So I don't feel super bad lol
@gamingmax9455 2 ай бұрын
I see the joke u made there @robbrg246. Saying I don’t feel SUPER bad…..😂. That’s kinda messed up man
@Fluskar 2 ай бұрын
u didnt see the leaks? cuz ppl knew the super varients were coming for a couple of months lol
@apostolos8734 2 ай бұрын
Don't feel bad, I did the same, though I had some store credit when I got it so I didn't speed much outta pocket.
@farazsiddiqui1312 2 ай бұрын
Nah you're fine because the horse power of 4070 super will be useless and limited by vram in a few years
@JonasGJ 2 ай бұрын
Great video, hoping for a comparison between all models in the 4000 series in the future.
@kingcaesar3693 2 ай бұрын
I always run the textures on high-ultra, shadows low-medium, and then everything else just medium. Rarely do I try to max everything out. I'm trying to get 60FPS minimum on every game. more on MP games, but co-op and single player I think 60 is fine.
@Xilent1 2 ай бұрын
I always wondered this. Its KZfaqrs fault. They have people thinking you gotta play all your games on Ultra or the GPU isn't worth it. YOU DON"T HAVE TO PLAY ON ULTRA to get the best experience. Optimized settings is the best way. Big part was Hardware Unboxed along with other getting people riled up about VRAM. Just optimize your settings. Those people skipped over a 4070 SUPER cause they're worried about VRAM when you don't need to play all games on ULTRA settings. Insane.
@Plague_Doc22 2 ай бұрын
Floating Daniel is needed for my x-mas tree. If you do merch, you need to make either a sticker or a magnet with you pointing up or down.
@qwertyuiop. 14 күн бұрын
Would be nice if you include some test results of productivity, rendering performance, encoding/decoding, etc
@antant06 2 ай бұрын
Another great video about the real world usage of cards. The analysis is so helpful thanks :)
@dumamilk 2 ай бұрын
I like this new comparison you're doing.
@leiyoh3311 2 ай бұрын
This is why I like this channel. Nice job!
@johndelabretonne2373 2 ай бұрын
Daniel Owens always talking real world performance to the next level! I really think that this way if presenting the information will be very useful to many people; it really let's you know exactly what you will be getting...
@viamoiam 2 ай бұрын
Commenting to boost! I like this. Great GPU reviews show what the actual experience is like. Nice to see you demonstrate the settings you would actually use. Most people would appreciate seeing how the cards perform with monitors that are pretty common. I hope you test on a 1080p, 1440p, or an ultrawide screen. Your expensive C1 OLED probably makes stuff look pretty amazing. .... Maybe your monitor supports some of the various resolutions/screen sizes as it is quite fancy or would make stuff more noticeable. This may not be practical for you to experience. Even 24" or 27" Desktop Screen at 1080p shows different quality settings with a different experience. Again hard to test so many combos. RX 6600 / 6600 XT users: These are 8GB cards that may benefit from the community drivers where user can enable vram compression.
@juanblanco7898 2 ай бұрын
Very interesting. That's a great review. Much more insightful and useful than just looking at raw performance differences or/and FPS per dollar. What difference does a good FPS/dollar value makes if you can't achieve performance and visual quality target that's comfortable for you.
@arkh1730 2 ай бұрын
4070 costs twice as much can't compare
@duende29 13 күн бұрын
The $250 ~ $300 price difference can make or break the budget, even more if you add getting a 1440p monitor.
@christroy8047 2 ай бұрын
Daniel, you're actually the best at this - no one compares graphics cards better. The problem with most reviewers is they use VERY old games and benchmark these new cards which to me is TOTALLY redundant. Why? We all know new hardware will chew through a game from 2010-2015 and rendering engines have changed so much. GREAT work keep it up we are luck to have you in the tech space!
@rubenpelli 2 ай бұрын
Possibly the best review format I’ve seen on KZfaq, thank you 🙏
@nifftwatkins3135 2 ай бұрын
Daniel, thanks. Please consider doing a video on selecting a graphics card for 4k, esp for single player games and a 60+ fps experience.
@jorge69696 2 ай бұрын
Something no one has done yet is a performance equalized visual comparison. Configure the games until you get say 60 fps and then compare what the image quality differences are. Similar to what you are doing here but a video solely focused on image quality would be great.
@ehenningsen 2 ай бұрын
The difference between medium and ultra has shrunk considerably. Thank You, Daniel for realism and for your edge-running.
@MrCommunistGen 2 ай бұрын
Wow. I appreciate all the work you put into this to capture all the data and perform the analysis.
@peanutfish94 2 ай бұрын
Usually the min I wanna hit is 60fps, ideally comfortably above it. If I gotta fiddle with some settings to get there that's fine, graphics are so good nowadays it doesn't really matter much
@Owyn95-wl3vw 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video! I love the way you approach your GPU testing. Until recently I played on a system with an i7-3770K and a 1070 Ti. Dropping the settings I usually managed to reach 50 to 60 fps in Games like Witcher 3, Tomb Raider Series, Pathfinder, BG 3 or Kingdom Come. As you said, it is all a question of what you are willing to sacrifice from the graphical beauty of game. With my new system 7800X3D/4080 I now can play all these older games as well as newer once easily with 144 fps in 1440p. And what I recognized was, in replaying some older games again, that the games are much easier to play at higher frame rates. Even though I'm nearly 70 I rarely died during Tomb Raiders Quick-Time-Events compared with my old system at only 50-60 fps or an my PS5. Though for a good gaming experience fps matter. With quiet affordable 144Hz monitors nowadays the goal on a PC should be to play the games with at least 100 fps+. The graphical sacrifice you have to make for this depends on the budget you can afford for the GPU.
@zzavatski 2 ай бұрын
For me the most difference was low input lag of a modern monitor.
@Kryptix0III 2 ай бұрын
I bought a 4070 last year for $550 but if I had another chance, I would definitely go for the 7900GRE which is also $550 currently.
@fuzzylumpkins6034 2 ай бұрын
I held off. Nvidia was insane with their price for performance. Starting their 2 budget cards at £400 and $550 was just crazy. I never thought anyone would actually pay that just for brand name for useless gimmicks in the budget range. I was able to pick up the GRE with 2 game coupons and trade in my RX6750xt for £300 in credit so walked out the door for £180 for the GRE. It is a spectacular GPU for the price and does way more than I need so it is nice to have the padding. I was going to be stuck in the 7900xt/4080 £900 quid range for what I needed when the GRE was announced here (Scotland) in Feb. Me and my fellow nerds cleared the shelf. My ideal card would have been a 4070 Ti Super but that £850 price tag was £450 the wrong way.
@LeaveMyGun 2 ай бұрын
🤡
@Kryptix0III 2 ай бұрын
@@LeaveMyGun why show your face
@Ralipsi 2 ай бұрын
Very good comparisons
@globusdiablo 2 ай бұрын
Have you made a pros and cons for DLSS/FSR vs native resolution? I would love to hear your opinion.
@darkfeeels 2 ай бұрын
Hi Daniel, I think this is good content and would appeal to a good percentage of people who wanna see how far they can push in their budget. But i do think raw benchmarks (native to native) are done because people just want to see raw performance since competitively most people wont use DLSS due to input lag crepping in.
@Richard-re7pb 2 ай бұрын
great variety of benchmarks
@wpelfeta 2 ай бұрын
The way I shop for GPUs is I target a framerate I want with max settings. Sure later on as my gpu ages, I might have to turn down settings. But in the beginning, I always want the max graphics settings.
@doc7000 Ай бұрын
I think there is room for both, as you want to know how the cards compare directly to eachother though the other way lets us see how we can get a desired frame rate. Though seeing the quality difference between two GPUs running at roughly the same frame rate but different quality levels doesn't always translate over youtube compression.
@yasintirit9502 2 ай бұрын
I bought a used 4060 for 260€ like a week ago and was experiencing a bit of buyers remorse that i didn't save up and get a 4070 in a few extra months. This video actually helped relieve that. The 4060 is more than enough for the new games i want to play in 1440p high with dlss quality, which i am totally fine with. This helped me out a ton, thanks Daniel. Also: I really loved this type of review because it's a more realistic comparison than just booting every game in ultra settings, would love to see more videos like this!
@cybersamiches4028 2 ай бұрын
I love the tiny Daniel 😂
@Eric-ct2ri 2 ай бұрын
aslong as the comparisson is still made at the same maxed settings to show the absolute performance of the cards than after that showing what it takes to get a certain framerate target is fine. since if you compare cards they should be compared at the same settings to not favor one over the other skewing the results.
@marsMayflower 2 ай бұрын
very good point. i'm more interested in knowing what settings I need to get to 120fps with a 1% low above 90.
@SubhadipSen 2 ай бұрын
HardOCP used to this - "best playable settings" Definitely miss that!
@JusticeGamingChannel 2 ай бұрын
Yes, yes we did. Though a lot has changed since then, in regards to how games dynamically manage texture and LOD detail based on VRAM, the inclusion of Upscaling and Ray Tracing, and the minimum framerates people find playable these days, way different back when we did it.
@historyforthebetter2646 2 ай бұрын
I think cross generational comparisons may be even more useful. It’s easy to compare the 1080ti to the 1070 or the 2080 but not to anything newer, I would like to see more comparisons of 1000 cards and 3000/4000 cards at least a few data points to go off
@antondovydaitis2261 2 ай бұрын
Yes. I am considering a P520 Thinkstation with Xeon W-2135 and RTX 2080 (for under $600), which by raw power should be comparable to an RTX 4060 or RX 7600. But how close is it really?
@Ray-dl5mp 2 ай бұрын
nice, I have a 4070 gpu so hopefully I didn't waste my money as it looked like a decent card to buy regarding vram and gaming at 1440p (if you take into account even the "better values" are expensive now).
@retrosean199 2 ай бұрын
Maybe one more suggestion: try to target a particular monitor refresh rate. (For example, 1080p or 1440p at 120 or 144 Hz). So in that test, what settings are necessary to get close to that target, and then (and here it is a bit subjective) does that look OK or is the image quality too compromised? The reason I am suggesting this is that you almost always will be purchasing a monitor that can go much faster than 60 Hz if you are getting a 'gaming monitor' with variable refresh rate support today.
@cunicelu 2 ай бұрын
Yup, it would be a better way to review as it's closer to real usage scenarios.
@melexxa 2 ай бұрын
This is the exact reason I went with the 4070 and not the 4070 Ti last year (way before super launch), the 4070 Ti just wasn't giving the advantage like 4070 gives over the 4060 where you need upscaling for 4060 & not for 4070 to get same FPS. However the 4080 was indeed having the advantage over the 4070 to give same performance without the need of upscaling but for double the price lol ($550 for 4070, $1100 for 4080)
@Ray-dl5mp 2 ай бұрын
Yeah i was fine with either but ended up going with 4070 too based on what I was buying together. And yeah it made the choice easier when I looked at performance differences between 4070 and 4070 ti. Perhaps it does make a significant difference in certain games, but the numbers didn't look too impressive. Where the 4070 seemed like the base line you needed for a near optimal 1440p gaming experience. Anything below that seemed like a waste. I get why people do it (it's cheaper), but probably worth saving up to get at least a good value of vram and performance for the resolution you're targeting.
@eternalelife 2 ай бұрын
If you aren't super tight on the budget, it should always be 4070s or 4070ti over 4070. There is 0 reason to go for 4070 currently unless you are buying a prebuilt with 4070 at a discounted price.
@Ray-dl5mp 2 ай бұрын
@@eternalelife exactly I got a prebuilt with a great cpu so it was a good mix of what I was looking for. I still think 4070 is a good base line for everyone needing or wanting a new card these days that is ok with 1440p. But I agree with you if the price is close and you can get the S or the Ti why not. But I feel like I’m in a good place until the next series of guys tries to push me to get a 4k setup going ha.
@Rebe-Caufman 2 ай бұрын
you went with 4070 because you are poor
@Ray-dl5mp 2 ай бұрын
@@Rebe-Caufman well 4070 computers are not cheap these days. I would say it’s a smart purchase. Not a poor purchase. A cheap purchase is buying a console or a gpu below 4070. Don’t forget how important cpus are these days. You need both to be high quality. I would consider a 4070 a high quality card as this video shows.
@Cam-mf2io 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this, I'm upgrading from a 1060 6gb due to buying a 1440p monitor (which then lead to a full upgrade of internals) and I've spent a month + debating 4060 vs 4060 ti vs 4070. But the reality is... I play basically 0 modern games. My most replayed games are - guild wars, guild wars 2, hunter: call of the wild, 7 days to die and the only recent games were elden ring (double playthrough), palworld (ongoing playthrough) and final fantasy vii remake (single play). I checked the upcoming games of 2024 and other than the ones in the list already (dlc, next chapter) there was zero games of interest for me. So for me the question was - do i seriously have to spent $1,049 (nzd) for a 4070? (according to the internet, yes) or will a 4060 ($400 - $500 (nzd) often on sale) allow me to play at 60 fps on high any game that does catch my eye as a one-off playthrough? Thank you so much for this fantastic showing of what settings give what play-ability in some of the most demanding games out there. The 4060 will easily give me the ability to play what I want but I may splurge on the ti for just a touch more wiggle room. Absolutely perfect.
@Michal_Bauer 2 ай бұрын
It's great way to review graphic cards. And I'm just one more time covinced that I made good choice deciding to go 4070 for next 5-8 years.
@AniketMohite1988 Ай бұрын
Same here. Upgraded from RTX 2060 6GB to 4070. Games feel much better now. Metro Exodus (enhanced edition) looks awesome with all its ray tracing glory.
@seancasgamer 2 ай бұрын
GPUs should be tested against the 5-7 games that most people are playing. Sure, you can run some games that benchmark things well or whatever, but as a viewer, if you play COD or Baldur's Gate 3 mostly, that's your litmus test. So many reviews are run now using canned benchmarks like Shadow of the Tomb Raider or even worse, 3DMark scores. That's not appealing to people who actually buy these things, it's appealing to TechTube nerds who call themselves enthusiasts.
@unheard5982 Ай бұрын
A gigantic work done here.
@Kevvvinus1 2 ай бұрын
I recently purchased the 7800x3d and the ASUS TUF 4070, and I couldn't be happier. I'm running all my games at 1080p with max settings, achieving around 70-80 fps. Opting for the 4070 was a smart move for me, as the price per fps ratio was better than the 4060. In terms of performance, the 4070 offers more bang for your buck. I wholeheartedly recommend this card.
@jipillow1 2 ай бұрын
My favorite mouse pointer
@marcopapp340 2 ай бұрын
Finally someone talked about the user experience! Awesome review, very inovative.
@Gamerloaders 2 ай бұрын
The best part of the contents are when you drag play with your face at the beginning of every videos lol
@Superdazzu2 2 ай бұрын
i feel like this generation (ada) is the first one where ray tracing and even path tracing are finally usable, at 600 euros with a 4070 super you can basically run 80+100 fps with fg on at 1440p dlss quality/balanced with path tracing and even more with ray tracing
@MWBor 2 ай бұрын
Beside %, how do you measure playable and unplayable (under 60 fps).
@jokur7 2 ай бұрын
I actually would like to have a Daniel Owen custom mouse cursor on my PC lol
@SFAJmz05 2 ай бұрын
I have been advocating for this type of review for ages. I'm so tired of the misinformation that comes from only looking at a price point to say, "Look at that! Bigger number better!!" That method alienates a solutions based approach which, in my opinion, is how most people buy. All I hear is customers saying that they want a gpu that solves X. Show them the ones that solve their problem and let them determine the price is right. So yeah, much more of this please. 👍
@erikbritz8095 2 ай бұрын
So save up for a RTX 4070 is alll im getting here just sucks their round $800 in my country due to price couging.
@Sintrania 2 ай бұрын
Imo I think these kind of review is more of a game side review rather than the GPU it self. While they might perform well in some game and get a decent graphic quality, it might not work on other game. the usual GPU review is more of a "how much raw power this card has against the other card", which is useful for potential buyer.
@luisgustavodossantosrodrig2005 2 ай бұрын
to be fair most of the chanel's goes for "how much raw power this card has against the other card" and the daniel's go for something like "what you get for the card you buy"
@antondovydaitis2261 2 ай бұрын
And why do we even WANT GPUs? To play games. Raw power is a good stand in for game performance, but in the end, we just want to play.
@antondovydaitis2261 2 ай бұрын
For those of us who really can't upgrade yet, the art of lowering settings is key. I really like this form of analysis. For myself, for good 1080p into the future, with Unreal Engine 5 and all that entails, my current target would be the RX 7600XT. I predict that 16GB VRAM will start being important in the not so distant future, even at 1080p. Also: lowering settings in a game you really want to play is working out for me so far.
@AniketMohite1988 Ай бұрын
Using a 1080p ultrawide monitor here (2560 x 1080) Previous RTX 2060 6gb struggled with RT performance, even with DLSS. Now, with RTX 4070 upgrade, feels much better. Easily scaling to 1080p ultrawide. Re-playing metro exodus (enhanced edition) now with RT & DLSS. And can see the performance difference. For single player games with great graphics, i think, i am set for next 3-4yrs (with max settings) 😅
@clem9808 2 ай бұрын
Dlss quality at 4k is basically native res +30-40% performance. It's fair enough to compare it against radeon's native res. at 4k.
@Steven-ex3ne 2 ай бұрын
I bought a 4060, and returned it for a 4060Ti 16GB, and returned that for a 4070 Super.
@paingaming5540 2 ай бұрын
Some thoughts on your new super card please?
@Roger-Verbal-Kint 2 ай бұрын
I love how Daniel never misses saying "nice" whenever "69" comes up in any way. 😂
@fortland73 2 ай бұрын
Nice job
@Jason-ol1ty 2 ай бұрын
His tombstone is really gonna read, Daniel "Mouse Pointer" Owen.
@Felix00007 2 ай бұрын
I want a future where we can play games without graphics cards
@sinnerslight 2 ай бұрын
I know this is off-topic, but I'm hoping Mr Owen, or anyone here, can enlighten me. I'm looking at upgrading my gpu. And I've essentially brought it down to a 7900xtx or 4070ti super. I've never used Ray tracing since I don't have a gpu that can handle that. But I'm the type of person who mostly plays single-player games like jrpgs, horror, and action games. So, I'd want the game to look as pretty as possible. So essentially, it's 7900xtx if raytracing isn't worth it or 4070ti super if it is. Maybe this could also be a video idea for Mr Owens to cover in a future video.
@user-so2dn7rm8n 2 ай бұрын
If gaming is the only concern - I'd go with AMD. If you also value features and software support - go for Nvidia. That's what i did - i bought 4060ti 16gb, which is very bad value for gaming. But for software and AI tasks it's a good card. And i still can play all games with 1440p with dlss, even if the card is overpriced.
@sinnerslight 2 ай бұрын
@@user-so2dn7rm8n ah. OK. Thanks
@Zinkhal1 2 ай бұрын
in my opinion both is interesting ... the good thing in same settings is you can kinda see the "performancedifference" ... you can see that of course with same fps different settings too but it feels a bit more complicated that way ... especially important in my opinion is that for the upcoming years if you hit 40 fps on high settings now its obvious that you wont be playing at high settings in 2 years with that card unless you are a big fan of some sort of slideshow xD 4:50 and while you say that i just think about my rx 6600 telling me in helldivers 2 a vram usage over 11000 ... ;D and yes still not a fan of a 8 gb card these days ... for me it was a huge jump 1,5 years ago from 4 gb to 8 but for modern games and especially if i think about that i like to use my gpu for over 5 years ... will lead into some hard times .. ;D 6:10 this "quick maths" you are always doing to compare 2 gpus is one reason i really like this channel over most others ... the price or to be precise the price to performance is a pretty important point when buying a gpu atleast in my opinion ... same goes with stuff like power use one of the benefits watching a video from a teacher i guess .. :D and at the same time i wonder why nobody else is doing this .. or atleast i cant remember that i ever saw it somewhere else .. this kind of comparison would be in my opinion way better with cards that are closer together .. not that its not interesting to see the different in performance for the next level of gpu ... but atleast for me it would be more interesting to see a comparison between 7600 and 4060 .. 7700 and 4070 etc .. or maybe "around the same price" from nvidia and amd whatever gpu it might be then at the same time i have to say it was interesting to see a comparison of these 2 different classes to see the real performance difference between them
@tomthomas3499 2 ай бұрын
When you put them side by side like that, Nvidia upsell strategy really become apparent.
@martytube821 2 ай бұрын
Its not always vram its just a gpu doesn't have the power to get higher fps and a lot of games the driver is just as important.
@cheez7100 2 ай бұрын
We love you Daniel !
@zbigniew2628 2 ай бұрын
I would like to see comparison of gtx1660ti / super vs rtx4070 done in this way, beside games which can not work without RT. GTX aims at 1080p and 30-60fps, rtx4070 1440p-4k or 1080p and RT and 45-60 fps.
@Rebe-Caufman 2 ай бұрын
lol 😂😂😂
@BoobaBoba69 2 ай бұрын
Came here for another smol daniel and was not dissapointed again
@stri06 2 ай бұрын
In my part of the world the cost scales with fps sort of the 4070 is 2x the cost of 4060. Is the 4060 worse than the 4070 shure but it's also double the price and not really 2x the performance. The 4060 needed to have 12 gb of vram like 3060 and a bit more performance but then again the price for budget videocards is very high.
@kelvinkms3671 2 ай бұрын
You should compare "4060" with "4060Ti with 16GB VRAM"
@longdang2681 Ай бұрын
The problem with using features like DLSS in reviews is that reviewers will likely get complaints from AMD promoters about how unfair the review is. They will claim that reviews need to done on a level playing field, even if that level playing field is an unrealistic representation of how people actually play games and choose their graphics. Some reviewers don't want to upset those in their audience that would rather have the GPU that performs well against the competition in 'fair' reviews but are lacklustre when it comes to real life gaming scenarios.
@blarebear6972 Ай бұрын
Even though these videos don't get the most views, they are extremely informative and helpful for those who do watch it. Thanks for considering your audience's minority 👍
@igyysdaddy191 2 ай бұрын
i literally laughed my ass off when he: ahhhhed! at 0:30. now i gotta go to hemorroid docter tomorrow.
@martymakesart3877 2 ай бұрын
You should test with Tekken 8 since it's unreal engine 5
@user-wz7bw7yk4p 2 ай бұрын
This makes me wonder if the 4060 has a better performance if it got 12 gigabytes of ram like the 3060.
@SirThanksalott 2 ай бұрын
More emphasis on what cards are actually capable of without upscaling trickery is so much better than looking at charts from other publications that don't even bother to include non DLSS stats. Instead they are using DLSS the way they used to measure frames with Anti-aliasing and shadows. Now more people realize how much they are being ripped off just to run mediocre games and no longer trust those big review sites who never have to pay for review samples.
@Shadowclaw25 2 ай бұрын
Would only buy the 4060 if you plan on upgrading soon with 5000er series. But if u want to wait for 6er series or even longer definately the 4070 just cause u need that V-ram !
@glowinTHX 2 ай бұрын
I'm really curious about the 5000. I recently moved to AMD out of curiosity and being honest the experience has been really good, but I could go back to NVIDIA if the price is fair and the offering next gen is good. What I would not try at all is Intel, it's really bad right now IMO.
@mikhail21393 2 ай бұрын
Personally I have a B450 mobo which runs on PCI 3.0 and the 4070 runs originally at PCI 4.0 x16 but since it's running PCI 3.0 x16 lanes runs almost full speed instead of a 4060 that runs at PCI 4.0 x8 but it's even worse on PCI 3.0 x8. I hope you understand I am running 5700x OC'ed btw
@ogaimon3380 2 ай бұрын
diff isn't thay big tho, 5% max
@mikhail21393 2 ай бұрын
@@ogaimon3380Exactly my point! Also the point of the video if you running at PCI 4.0 4060 vs 4070 and you see at least more performance with 4070 instead of 4060. I would not play every game on ultra, I prefer to always mix and match settings to my liking as always also may help running the game smoother in the long run and I mostly cap the game to certain FPS like 75 still runs even low power depends on the game and it may or it may not stutter but most of the time it wont.
@michaelthompson9798 2 ай бұрын
Tbh, I feel Ray Tracing (RT), not Path Tracing (PT) is the way to got for games! Sure PT is a little better in terms of visual over RT, but the performance hit imo, isn’t worth the image quality in games. RT is much easier to drive and give 80% of the visuals and makes more powerful gpus easier and cheaper to build for consumers.💪🤩🥳👍
@jorge86rodriguez 2 ай бұрын
I think you are one of the few channels that is treating hardware how real people will use them. For other pc channels hardware is just numbers and benchmarks.
@zergilli9719 2 ай бұрын
4070 Super is baller. Can get one for $590 to $600. 7900 GRE is a good option at $550.
@NGreedia 2 ай бұрын
Looks like my 3060 is not going to be able to run 1080p without upscaling at 1080p . Not sure if should wait until 5060 or get a 4070 or 4070s now unless the 5060 ends up being just as dissappinting as a 4060
@MrDavid50c 2 ай бұрын
Get 4070 ti super and then you will not have to worry about any GPu for 5 years. Best card for performance / value in the 40 series
@camdustin9164 2 ай бұрын
@@MrDavid50cI would argue the 4070Super is the best price to performance. I think the 4070 ti Super is 50$ to expensive
@MrDavid50c 2 ай бұрын
@@camdustin9164 Hello and you would let 50 get in the way of + 20 percent performance compared to 4070 super +mor Memory Bandwidth and extra 4 gb of VRam? In this case 50 will get your pc future proofed. 6 hours of overtime gets you many extra years to use this card. Unless somebody wants to upgrade every generation.
@camdustin9164 2 ай бұрын
@@MrDavid50c well, I wouldn’t mind paying 50$ extra if the 7900xt wasn’t going for 100$ less
@MrDavid50c 2 ай бұрын
It cost less because its worse. The 7900 xt or xtx does not have good enough RTX and I thing that is the future. But if you dont care about RTX than I can understand still DLSS is far far superior then FSR because it will give you card mor longevity in gaming markert. Also dont forget other non gaming tasks wich also is better with this card and nvidia does not sit around on their asses they keep working on making their software better and better and they have the financial background too acheive that goal. They are the industry leader for a reason. And No I am not a fanboy I just see thing for what they are. Wheter we like it or not they are the bigger dog with the better and fancier hardware.
@bjarnis 2 ай бұрын
It would be nice if someone like Daniel could teach people about integer scaling so they could max out settings at naitve 720p or 1080p perfectly upscaled to your 4K TV. No need to buy a new GPU every like 4 years kids.
@prabhakardhar1379 2 ай бұрын
hello everyone, which used gpu will be better?? 3060 12gb? 3070? 2080ti?
@pravnav 2 ай бұрын
2080 ti
@Aleksey-vd9oc 2 ай бұрын
4060
@pravnav 2 ай бұрын
@@Aleksey-vd9oc Blind
@Aleksey-vd9oc 2 ай бұрын
@@pravnav All these cards are garbage, 4060 - it matters
@pravnav 2 ай бұрын
@@Aleksey-vd9oc strange of you to say that when 2080 ti is faster than 4060 by 17% and 1% faster than 4060 ti. On paper 3070 is faster however 2080 ti has 11gb vram
@antipathy17 2 ай бұрын
Hey Dan. I have a major big ask. Would you look into fortnite,why the 1% lows are so low and how to fix the fps dips. I don't have this issue in most other games. I have an Intel 14700 k 32 gigabytes of 3,600 MHz ram 4070 TI super. On a 1440 p monitor at 165 HZ.
@swianr 2 ай бұрын
The real value in 4070 now is the used market, many people upgraded and they are selling their 4070 cards as new open box/ slightly used with warranty for less than 500 dollars
@fuzzylumpkins6034 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate non synthetic benchmarks. So many influencers that get this gear for free flog it as synth bm and kids rush out to overpay for an item they do not need and cannot utilise with gimmicks that are virtually /practically useless without having a clue how much they overpaid for nothing other than brand name. If you have the cards, would you be able to try this with the RX6600 - 6650xt and 6700XT? as the 70 series AMD is rather boring aside from the 7900GRE.
@cebuanostud 2 ай бұрын
yes available now lol
@gruiadevil 2 ай бұрын
To answer the question. No. This isn't how GPU-s should be reviewed. There's a reason Techpowerup has the relative performance chart. Anything from a GT1050Ti to a RTX4090 can play today's games. The difference is what kind of settings. The 1050Ti can do 720p Ultra Low Settings 4090 can do 4K Ultra Settings There's a big jump in performance between these 2 settings. And a lot of different Levels of Settings. We have 4 resolutions. 4-5 levels of presets. Each preset of Setting has several types of Settings, such as reflections, shadows, lighting, effects, textures ... etc .
@arkh1730 2 ай бұрын
Yeah they always go for the presets and don't adjust for the card needs😅
@gruiadevil 2 ай бұрын
@@arkh1730 Yeah They keep going like: This card can play this game in 156FPS and this card can only play the game in 135FPS .... Like .. who cares? Just show: This card can do a stable 60FPS with 2K resolution, Ultra Textures, High Lighting, etc And this card can do a stable 60FPS with 2K resolution, High Textures, Medium Lighting, High Shadows,.etc The difference in visuals between these 2 settings is .... The experience in playing between these 2 levels of settings is ... Also I wanna see the difference in visuals between 2K Medium Settings and 1080p Ultra Stuff like that
@arkh1730 2 ай бұрын
@@gruiadevil indeed 👍
@Kitkat-wf2pu 2 ай бұрын
i want a 4070, i have an rx 6750xt i bought 3 months ago, and look, I am really happy with what i have, but i do like ray tracing. I chose the rx 6750xt over the 4060 for obvious reasons, but i wish i wouldve saved up for a 4070 instead tbh, Still I will not get a new gpu, because I am verry happy with what I have :))
@kymypy 2 ай бұрын
hey it's a 32 dollar video thanks for your sacrifice sir
@danielowentech 2 ай бұрын
Lol! To be fair, these types of head-to-head videos tend to get steady long-term "search" traffic as people research GPUs to buy. So after several months or even a year, they often pay off. But they sometimes perform poorly initially since my "regular viewers" who KZfaq first recommends the video to may not be interested in these particular graphics cards.
@jipillow1 2 ай бұрын
For my preference, i would rather save up money and wait to be able to afford a mid range card then get an entry level one
@Sid-Cannon 2 ай бұрын
The 40 series from 4060 up to 4070 Ti are named one higher than they should be. They should be:- 4070 Ti => 4070 4070 => 4060 4060 Ti => 4050 Ti 4060 => 4050 Add to this overpricing by around $100 and you have a proper piss take.
@adlibconstitution1609 2 ай бұрын
The Rx 6600 is 30% faster than a rtx 3050. The Rx 7600 is the same level as rtx 4060. So why would you say the 4060 = 4050 when it is the same level as the Rx 7600.
@Sid-Cannon 2 ай бұрын
@@adlibconstitution1609 Cos AMD are taking the piss as well.
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