Is This The Best Value Road Bike in 2023?

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David Arthur - Just Ride Bikes

David Arthur - Just Ride Bikes

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Content
00:00 Intro
00:25 What to look for
2:39 Giant TCR
4:16 Canyon Endurace/Ultimate
5:40 Trek Emonda
7:16 SquareSpace
8:21 Specialized
9:49 Vitus
10:51 Rose Bikes
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@ccadp1219
@ccadp1219 Жыл бұрын
Nice…long overdue for us mortals. Please do more like this in the $1500/2500 range….👍🏻
@davidarthur
@davidarthur Жыл бұрын
Thanks and watch this space
@jamesscoltock4837
@jamesscoltock4837 Жыл бұрын
First road bike I bought was a Felt F95 for £600 (2012). Took me from John O’Groats to Lands End and on countless sportives. It’s sad that the big brands don’t offer more options at a lower price, a £2,000 bill for a bike must put a lot of people off, and there’s better value to be found from companies such as Planet X and Fuji.
@gavinward3176
@gavinward3176 Жыл бұрын
I have a Planet X RDT 80, unfortunately had a lot of problems with it. Main issue resolved by replacing the front derailleur with SRAM Force but issues with the front folks (bent on delivery) with tyre rubbing. Customer service was appalling, wouldn't resolve the fork issue even with an independent assessment.
@jamesscoltock4837
@jamesscoltock4837 Жыл бұрын
@@gavinward3176 That's unfortunate. I had a Planet-X RT-57 that was brilliant out of the box.
@fotografamos4083
@fotografamos4083 Жыл бұрын
And Decathlon!
@jason200912
@jason200912 Жыл бұрын
I have a felt s32 right now.
@theatomic430
@theatomic430 11 ай бұрын
You can still buy many old road bikes today.
@tomedward8652
@tomedward8652 Жыл бұрын
Rose and Canyon bikes are great value…….as long as you don’t mind the 6 month to 1 year delivery time. No joke.
@touchdown081
@touchdown081 11 ай бұрын
maybe try Cube
@granthutchinson5937
@granthutchinson5937 Жыл бұрын
£2,000 for a low-end road bike, no wonder bike sales are down. We can blame the bike industry for phasing out rim brake bikes, which allowed light weight bikes at affordable prices.
@egigstertroll3521
@egigstertroll3521 Жыл бұрын
trying to make money off the folks with money.
@clintonjthurman
@clintonjthurman Жыл бұрын
The first bike is not 2000, as of today it’s 4500. Not exactly bargain basement prices.
@samiktiri
@samiktiri Жыл бұрын
These prices are singly obscene
@ThomassEvo
@ThomassEvo Жыл бұрын
Buy direct from China
@calebniederhofer6529
@calebniederhofer6529 Жыл бұрын
It is not a low end road bike, but the best performance and value bikes, that perform at a higher quality, performance level.
@kieron88ward
@kieron88ward Жыл бұрын
That Rose is an alloy frame (disguised as a carbon frame) but it looks beautifully made.
@sdgmrs
@sdgmrs Жыл бұрын
I have had my Giant TCR since 2014.. great bike.. if you keep your bike clean.. chain clean.. when i save up i upgraded wheels.. custom saddle.. have done multiple triathlons and iron.. no need for a 10k+ bike
@desaparafusado
@desaparafusado Жыл бұрын
David, great vídeo, thank you for the options. Giant and Rose are my favorite, for my first road bike. Regards from Porto City, Portugal 💪🏼🇵🇹🚲
@banjomechanic
@banjomechanic Жыл бұрын
I’ve ridden, but not owned, a couple of Giant bikes and I’ll have to say the ride quality is impressive. I’m not getting off my old Bianchi just yet, but Giant will be my next serious consideration. Great video!
@liamblood5239
@liamblood5239 9 ай бұрын
I just got a Giant Revolt 2 for 1100 euro straight from Giant. It's a gravel bike but still wonderful on road, changing out the crosscut 2 tyres to something more road worthy would really improve it aswell but I live in Ireland and even our bike lanes have potholes. It's a lovely ride and could not recommend Giant enough to people, especially those who are starting out cycling, like myself
@user-ke6bm2kc8g
@user-ke6bm2kc8g 5 ай бұрын
rad
@CanyonWanderer
@CanyonWanderer Жыл бұрын
Feeling really lucky with my end 2020 Canyon Ultimate CF SL 7 - rim brake (I live in the Netherlands, so all is flat), Shimano105-, then it was EUR 1699, 7.72 kg, super stoked with it! I see that now there is no rim brake version anymore and it is 2699 !
@theatomic430
@theatomic430 9 ай бұрын
I also got in on the last of the Canyon rim brake bikes-- CF SL 8. Perfect.
@CanyonWanderer
@CanyonWanderer 9 ай бұрын
@@theatomic430 I still love it, last week it passed the 10000 km mark
@junrama1148
@junrama1148 7 ай бұрын
I got mine last week. A 2017 canyon ultimate cf sl 9.0 with sram force groupset and rimbrake. Aside from the whole bike the seller gave me freebies of fizik antares saddle, canyon stem and dropbar,look pedal, carbon bottle holders and a sram force RD with short cage for 800€. Most of Todays brand new bike are so expensive thats why i go for second hand.
@StanEby1
@StanEby1 Жыл бұрын
This one of your best videos. You have applied your extraordinary judgment to the ordinary world in which we live and to great practical and quality of life benefit for us all. Thank you once again, and all the best.
@davidarthur
@davidarthur Жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@SlickSniper3
@SlickSniper3 Жыл бұрын
Bought a 2019 Giant Defy Advanced 2 with Shimano 105 gearset just before covid for a pretty good price at the time. Super happy i did, similar spec 2023 models are nearly double the price here in Canada...
@stephencarr9342
@stephencarr9342 Жыл бұрын
I have that exact same TCR that was £600 more expensive in 2021. Great bike, great groupset. The wheels are ‘meh’ and the front thru axle adapter collapsed within 2 rides. The tyres - nice that it comes set up tubeless, but the tyres are heavy, and like treacle on tarmac. However- like your comments, I changed the wheels to some 50/60mm and added some F1 tyres and it’s absolutely transformed! Not much else I’d change - might add a thicker bar tape down the line. The saddle is ok as well although it creaked after a while so I’ve replaced it only due to that.
@jc2685
@jc2685 6 ай бұрын
Just bought my 1st road bike, a mint condition Ribble fully carbon Endurance SL, 105 groupset for £550, 2nd hand! Worth 2k brand new. Now thats value. It is freaking light!
@Cyclingchoice
@Cyclingchoice Жыл бұрын
Rose decided to clean up the front end but route cable housing under chain stay! The frame design looks good though.
@zwifting
@zwifting Жыл бұрын
Great review of some excellent options - if you can find them in stock 😂. But I do believe the Rose is AL frame not CR. Still a stunning bike though.
@richardggeorge
@richardggeorge Жыл бұрын
Really interested to see what you think of budget brands like Vitus. Keep up the great work. Cheers from hot sunny Melbourne
@stanislavkindiakov6334
@stanislavkindiakov6334 Жыл бұрын
Vitus is not a ‚budget‘, it is a good second tier brand with great value for money.
@darthvulcanis4002
@darthvulcanis4002 Жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to the Vitus bike reviews. Great brand with great value
@paultaylor8735
@paultaylor8735 Жыл бұрын
I bought the same bike in just before Christmas and can’t recommend it highly enough.
@jmounce50
@jmounce50 Жыл бұрын
Trek Domane AL5 is another great value bike with 105 group set and good specs and good quality parts. Tires would be the only thing out of the box I’d upgrade but that’s with any of these bikes in this price range.
@mrichards55
@mrichards55 Жыл бұрын
Yes, the first think I do when I see rubbish Tektro brakes is swap them out for 105.
@yu-chiyeh2959
@yu-chiyeh2959 Жыл бұрын
Replacing stock tires with 28c faster and lighter tires is a big improvement of my riding experience. Love my Domane AL5 despite the bike is a bit heavy at 10 kg. Probably can make the bike lighter if going for carbon wheels (guessing like 700g lighter?)
@rodcosta2345
@rodcosta2345 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for reviewing more affordable bikes that are accessible to the masses - cheers!
@davidarthur
@davidarthur Жыл бұрын
More to come!
@benleatherland7020
@benleatherland7020 Жыл бұрын
£2000 bikes are now considered affordable are they. People are being brainwashed. That is ridiculous money for a bike.
@100drips
@100drips Жыл бұрын
​​@@benleatherland7020 true. when i spend 2000 euro on a road bike 5 years ago, i considered it to be a luxury item. and that was after many years and kilometers on a steel randoneur. i still own and ride both. disk brakes, tubeless, electronic shifting, carbon etc... you don't need all of that to have a good and fun ride.
@jamesmoros1274
@jamesmoros1274 Жыл бұрын
In the land of Oz that’s Australia for you chaps.. Chinese unbranded carbon frames are very common and the quality is not that far off the brands you mentioned and in some cases the mix up of unknown brands do give better value for many especially for beginners and mid level riders. Great review as always 😊
@charleywaynehinkle6358
@charleywaynehinkle6358 Жыл бұрын
Could you give me a link to a good recommendation of these bikes
@michaelpeppersack8599
@michaelpeppersack8599 Жыл бұрын
I am going to follow you because I get some good ideas of what to buy for my cycling hobby
@erlendsteren9466
@erlendsteren9466 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for good video! If I should by a roadbike now I would look for tyre clearance. The Canyon Endurace looks interesting. Gravel bikes are probably the kings of clearance and a versatile choice. My first "roadbike" was a Rocky Mountain Rail cyclodrossbike and has given me thousands of good kilometers during almost 20 years.
@jason200912
@jason200912 Жыл бұрын
Get a road bike. make sure the brakes are high screw n shaped so they can fit fat tires. Buy gravel tires. Problem solved.
@xrenx4921
@xrenx4921 10 ай бұрын
@@jason200912 wouldn’t drive gravel with a road bike. Buy a 2nd bike specially for gravel and you’ll be happier
@xelseartheonlyone1267
@xelseartheonlyone1267 Жыл бұрын
I love the Giant Contend AR! Beautiful all road bike. And very capable!
@acemodean
@acemodean Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. That giant is a screaming deal in UK. Can't get close to that price in the US.
@tbear4291
@tbear4291 Жыл бұрын
Excellent stuff sir.Very impressive.
@gijs3474
@gijs3474 Жыл бұрын
I have been riding/racing Rose Bikes for far over 10 years, however their bikes are great value, I must add that one should avoid their carbon fibre frames. My MTB is now on it's sixth frame in 7 years time, all the frames broke down due to manufacturing issues. My racing bike is the same as I'm on my second frame after 8 years but still kinda sad to have to go back to the german shop (live in the Netherlands) to bring the bike away and pick it up a few weeks later. On the ALU bikes I only have positive experiences tho!
@MrValthier
@MrValthier Жыл бұрын
Great video and great choice for value roadbikes. Small correction David. The Rose road bike is very light aluminium build with a very fine finished, which it looks like carbon. Greetings from Germany.
@DilbertMuc
@DilbertMuc Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I mistook the Rose Pro SL for a carbon bike until I saw the aluminium weldings at the bottom bracket. 😅
@hoizkiacha
@hoizkiacha 6 ай бұрын
unfortunately the pro sl is no longer available
@nomadcarpenter8549
@nomadcarpenter8549 Жыл бұрын
I give you crap for not holding the manufacturers to account on their batshit prices. But, fair play, you've done a good job here of giving the masses useful info.
@cyclingsfatsuma9808
@cyclingsfatsuma9808 Жыл бұрын
Merida used to have some well spec'd mid range bikes even in carbon but they seem to have disappeared. but I saw an escultura 400 for £2400, which seems pretty cheap for electric assistance, with hydraulics discs and 105. Might be worth reviewing the e-road bike market. La Pierre seem to have nice ones as do giant and trek
@motostarmx1777
@motostarmx1777 Жыл бұрын
Dave..I truly enjoy your channel..thank you sir !!!
@davidarthur
@davidarthur Жыл бұрын
You are very welcome
@normhanson981
@normhanson981 Жыл бұрын
I’m in Langkawi , Malaysia, there is a nice Gusto with DI2 and calliper brakes , Taiwan carbon frame , 12500 RM or about £2200 . 👍
@technikhub4050
@technikhub4050 Жыл бұрын
Finally! WE like this type of videos. Affordable bikes
@davidarthur
@davidarthur Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@courtney2835
@courtney2835 3 ай бұрын
A bike for 2000 quids is affordable?
@jennings016
@jennings016 2 ай бұрын
Yes bikes prices have gone up, also has car prices and pretty much everything else also.
@joem3701
@joem3701 Жыл бұрын
I recently bought the giant tcr trading my canyon and my what a difference in comfort and ride quality.Giant is by far the best value
@peterxyz3541
@peterxyz3541 Жыл бұрын
This channel is not aimed at me. Happy for your joy of this hobby
@davidarthur
@davidarthur Жыл бұрын
the clue is in the name ;)
@malcolmhendra20
@malcolmhendra20 Жыл бұрын
My ORRO Terra C 105 came to £100.00 less than the £2000 and that included pedals and mudguards and a personal bike fit. Im absolutely delighted. Although its my first bike so I have nothing to compare, what I used to cycle in 1 hour on my wife's bike I can now achieve in 45min on the ORRO and her bike is a good quality Specialised hybrid. I feel every ounce of downward pressure is converted to the drive train. Ive now cycled almost 500 miles with no issues at all.
@slipknotsoad86
@slipknotsoad86 Жыл бұрын
Where did you buy that?
@malcolmhendra20
@malcolmhendra20 Жыл бұрын
@@slipknotsoad86 I bought it from The Bicycle Lounge in Ormskirk, Lancashire. If your local and interested have a look at Merlin cycles in Chorlely. The have a 2022 Terra C at a very competitive price (at least it was there last week when I called in!).
@slipknotsoad86
@slipknotsoad86 Жыл бұрын
@@malcolmhendra20 I'm in kent so far from local! thanks for replying though, it was worth a shot as that is a great deal!
@beaub9098
@beaub9098 Жыл бұрын
Giant TCR advance 1 I love it !
@soulstyledevon
@soulstyledevon 11 ай бұрын
Interesting comments on the gravel. Considering one to replace my current. Warwickshire lanes are awful these days. I’m getting to old for thin rubber 😂
@chevyyyyyyy
@chevyyyyyyy 11 ай бұрын
Very useful examination.
@christophercortes1524
@christophercortes1524 Жыл бұрын
Just scored a Ridley Fenix SLIC for $2400 … totally loving it!
@JohnDoe-yh9gi
@JohnDoe-yh9gi 5 ай бұрын
The best bike is your current bike. My 2016 Endurace still rides like a charm. Upgraded the groupset to axs.
@jamesmorris858
@jamesmorris858 Жыл бұрын
2:49 I have a Giant Propel 2022 model. I know it's not in this price range of road bikes, but I just wanted to say that I love the bike so much! Giant is a great value for money regardless of what price range you're looking at. I'd love to save up for a TCR one day, but right now I'm having fun enjoying my Propel ❤
@sorexys5756
@sorexys5756 Жыл бұрын
Im considering to buy the propel 2. And i dont have written so many Bikes, but others thank components of course the ride Feeling is very Important
@Not_Sure_
@Not_Sure_ Жыл бұрын
If you're not racing you don't need a fancy bike. You can get a really nice bike for less than $1,000 with Shimano Claris 8x2
@robster6868
@robster6868 8 ай бұрын
Still rocking my trek sl6 2017 rim brake 2500€,bought some zipp 303´s for racing,still good enough today.
@andyc9187
@andyc9187 10 ай бұрын
Just found a Giant Defy with a paint blemish on the frame in my local bike shop, massive discount, collection next weekend 😊
@blaze1148
@blaze1148 11 ай бұрын
Bought a 2nd hand Scott Addict (2020) for £1200 last year and absolutely love it !
@aerowilly65
@aerowilly65 Жыл бұрын
You can actually get the Emonda SL5 disc for £2k if you look around. Good discount and I did consider it but ended up with a TCR,based on the frame weight.
@yonglingng5640
@yonglingng5640 Жыл бұрын
You also end up with a bike that's easier to work on (sub-hour headset service) and compatible with almost any, if not any direct-drive turbo trainer. There's simply not much to fault about this bike.
@stanislavkindiakov6334
@stanislavkindiakov6334 Жыл бұрын
Haha, same did I, also took TCR and saved 800 Euro 😅
@indiebikes
@indiebikes Жыл бұрын
“But you missed out [insert random name of every bike ever made here]”. Seems you can’t win. Something to keep in mind with this price point is resale value. Getting a “branded” bike often means when people buy at this level, don’t ride it much and then decide to sell, they fetch a better price back than “lesser” brands. Facebook marketplace is littered with examples of broken dreams and best intentions. Plus always buy a bike you like the look of, as if you are not a super enthusiast roadie, it’ll make you want to ride it just that little bit more! The list you have provided is an excellent start point for sure.
@SG-dg6oi
@SG-dg6oi Жыл бұрын
I wanted an American (Wooo America!!! We rock!!!! Don't forget we saved you Brits in WW2, the big one) bike but none of the local dealers had my size and price point in stock!!! So I bought a Giant Revolt 2... It's okay, but I haven't broken past 30 miles per hour downhill yet... Trying to ride every day or other day!!!!
@worldofameiso5491
@worldofameiso5491 Жыл бұрын
For two grand you can get a fantastic second hand bike. A mate of mine picked up a carbon Fondriest, Full Ultegra with Zipp 404v wheels for £600. It had hardly been ridden and was like new.
@InfinityProTeam
@InfinityProTeam Жыл бұрын
Yeah this is a good point, surely with two grand you can get some incredible spec bikes second hand
@danarello2563
@danarello2563 Жыл бұрын
@@InfinityProTeam That's a good idea. I'm nervous about buying a used carbon road bike because the frame could have an issue. Probably unwarranted.
@JumpingWatermelons
@JumpingWatermelons Жыл бұрын
Yep, it was many years ago but in the past I paid $2,000 for a barely used Colnago C40 with Campy Record, some kind of rare special carbon cranks that Colnago sourced for a while, and a set of some special edition (extra light) Zip 303s (I think to buy all that new was over $10,000 at the time). Your friend got a really great deal on that Fondriest
@agstudioband
@agstudioband Жыл бұрын
2000euro cathegory and not pick any Cube bike is a big blunder. That would be my first choice out of all your recommendetions without thinking toolong. Awesome frames of really high quality, top groupsets. Attain or Agree lines are what everyone should be considering in 2000 budget
@Cortes19882012
@Cortes19882012 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 CAAD12 Ultegra. Still rides amazing today. Cannondale is the best when it comes to Alloy. Same with Specialized with the Allez.
@Glebaka
@Glebaka Жыл бұрын
I have Caad 5 from 2005, still rides amazing😅 actualy theres no big differnce between new and old bikes, specially if old is upgraded
@Hauptstufe
@Hauptstufe Жыл бұрын
@@Glebaka 1998 CAD3 checking in.
@FriendlyFarmMachineryToolCpBel
@FriendlyFarmMachineryToolCpBel Жыл бұрын
I sold my old Allez, a stiff, beautiful frame. Steep angles made it a great bike for crit racing. Specialized alloy frames up there with anyone's!
@Cortes19882012
@Cortes19882012 Жыл бұрын
@@FriendlyFarmMachineryToolCpBel The Allez still remains to be the best bike for crit racing. The frames even got better.
@FriendlyFarmMachineryToolCpBel
@FriendlyFarmMachineryToolCpBel Жыл бұрын
@@Cortes19882012 , great 😃😃😃
@alfabethev2.074
@alfabethev2.074 Жыл бұрын
Biig thumbs up for having the courage to include other bikes than the usual one's 👍🏻 Tnx. Dave.
@davidarthur
@davidarthur Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@stevek4382
@stevek4382 Жыл бұрын
Aluminum has a bad reputation? Never heard that. Bike companies are ripping everyone a new one. I wouldn’t spend 2000 on tiagra group set. I also don’t need batteries on a road bike, something else that breaks down. I think 105 non Di2 at 1800 reasonable. If not I’ll keep riding what I have. Rose Ultegra, mechanical groupset that sounds good.
@davidarthur
@davidarthur Жыл бұрын
It doesn't have a bad reputation, but it has an unfair reputation for offering a harsh ride, a hangover from the 90s and early 2000s but that just isn't the case these days imo
@gregmorrison7320
@gregmorrison7320 Жыл бұрын
@@davidarthur Even my early 2000's GT ZR3.0 with 28mm tires rides very comfortable with it's carbon fork, the bike it replaced an earlier GT with aluminum fork however was a hard ride.
@Pfeifenmarsmaes
@Pfeifenmarsmaes Жыл бұрын
You forgot another good german Brand. I bought a Stevens Aspin to ride during winter. A really fantastic bike. Complete Ultegra Groupset with only Rim Brakes, but this is for me ok.
@JonReid
@JonReid Жыл бұрын
I’d love to get the Rose gravel bike, but it doesn’t seem possible in the UK. Is this still the case?
@jonpoon3896
@jonpoon3896 Жыл бұрын
Trek Domane AL is a good option in the US. Trek are expanding their retail shop coverage pretty well. Which means good warranty coverage countrywide
@joed7185
@joed7185 Жыл бұрын
Had the AL5 Disc not even for a year and sold it. Such a heavy slug of a bike.
@jonpoon3896
@jonpoon3896 Жыл бұрын
@@joed7185 1. Are there lighter options for the price? 2. Is it the bike? I kid
@joed7185
@joed7185 Жыл бұрын
@@jonpoon3896 Its Disc Brakes. Look to get a Specialized Allez Elite rim brake.Thats what I got. SO much better response wise and lighter.
@dicconhill5593
@dicconhill5593 Жыл бұрын
I have to say nice video and the price point more realistic. Does seem some people think you should have covered every bike in the world in the 2k range. Clearly not possible.
@CristianoVicente
@CristianoVicente Жыл бұрын
Van Rysel the Decathlon in-house brand also offers, both alloy and carbon, well specced road bikes in this price range. Unfortunately there still is some stigma buying from Decathlon.
@cyclofeedubox8332
@cyclofeedubox8332 Жыл бұрын
This is a step in the right direction. Let the market lead the industry giants, not the other way around
@geospatialdata
@geospatialdata Жыл бұрын
I can't find a similarly equipped TCR for that price point in the US market - I would buy it if I could find it!
@krishnansrinivasan830
@krishnansrinivasan830 Жыл бұрын
Awesome :)
@mrichards55
@mrichards55 Жыл бұрын
I have that Trek Emonda ALR and tarted it up with Dura Ace 😊
@ditto1958
@ditto1958 27 күн бұрын
Did that make a difference?
@mrichards55
@mrichards55 8 күн бұрын
@@ditto1958 Has actually made buying replacement 11 speed Dura Ace components super hard to find.
@newoldsteel
@newoldsteel Жыл бұрын
Let me tell you as a vintage and new old stock kind of rider, anything Shimano Claris and Sora that’s being made by Shimano now, is as good if not better than Dura Ace and Ultegra of yesteryear. AND is compatible with previous groupsets. Where as new Tiagra id im not mistaken isn’t compatible with other precious 10 speed groupsets.
@davidblanchard6785
@davidblanchard6785 Жыл бұрын
Cannondale caad optima 1 for 1600 with 105 is hard too beat
@LloydGoldsteinMusic
@LloydGoldsteinMusic Жыл бұрын
I would love to see you test and review De Rosa Bicycles.
@cycleish
@cycleish Жыл бұрын
I like your full zip hoodie! What brand is it? Great video!
@davidarthur
@davidarthur Жыл бұрын
It’s a Sportful Giara hoody 👍
@denislan1829
@denislan1829 10 ай бұрын
Nice content! But the Piano(or so) background loop is KILLING me!!!
@charlesblithfield6182
@charlesblithfield6182 9 ай бұрын
The big brands also need to get with the program with respect to crank length and handlebar width. Too often the offerings are too big. The only way to get 165mm cranks is with a small or extra small frame. Sub 400mm handlebars likewise.
@davekendall1338
@davekendall1338 Жыл бұрын
Anyone have thoughts on how the Fezzari Empire or Veyo stack up as value bikes? Keep in mind that the standard Veyo carbon frame won’t be out until this summer...all the current Veyo prices reflect their super light frame.
@johnsenior478
@johnsenior478 Жыл бұрын
Good feature - many vlogs give the impression that you need a 4k/ 5k bike to be a cyclist. I’ve ridden Cube which are widely available and they are very good value- also Dolan and Ribble probably have offerings at this price point. Would like to see a feature on best upgrades for a 2k bike. PS All metals used for bikes are alloys - ie a mixture of metals - ie Titanium is an alloy - so aluminium is the accurate description for an aluminium bike. Keep up the good work.
@LagunaRider1961
@LagunaRider1961 Жыл бұрын
I’m wondering if Shimano is still producing mechanical 11 speed group sets for sale? I haven’t seen any full groups sets for sale, I just bought a full mechanical Dura Ace but had to buy it in pieces. Love my mechanical!
@marktownend3782
@marktownend3782 Жыл бұрын
They do but it's difficult to get hold of
@desmoMarco91
@desmoMarco91 11 ай бұрын
the worst thing about the cycling industry aren't 15k bikes, those are built to win the tour de france....the worst thing is entry level bikes being 3k+
@davezor21
@davezor21 Жыл бұрын
Still love my trek Emonda 2017 rim brake
@ronanm04
@ronanm04 Жыл бұрын
Hi David, how would you compare the Giant TCR to the Giant Defy range? Is the Defy just a more upright/endurance type setup? Thanks again
@motostarmx1777
@motostarmx1777 Жыл бұрын
I have owned two defys..yes they are more upright in posistion but still a racy bike..you could lower the bars if you wanted to,but i love a all day ride and being north of 50 years old, im grateful for the comfort..
@user-qx1vh8xk6b
@user-qx1vh8xk6b 9 ай бұрын
I have had carbon and aluminum,one of my bikes used paid 800.00 and have had no issues it has a Claris
@decnijfkris3706
@decnijfkris3706 Жыл бұрын
great man, great bike, great price, great quality ...TREK
@LOZUPONEJ
@LOZUPONEJ Жыл бұрын
Buy used. Be patient
@StanEby1
@StanEby1 Жыл бұрын
Amen and amen!!!
@niklaskristensson2231
@niklaskristensson2231 Жыл бұрын
Hear hear!
@PHHE1
@PHHE1 Жыл бұрын
One year ago, canyon aeroad 2019 incl. Everything, ultegra di2, dtswiss arc1400 62mm, 7,8kg, 3,3k€ almost new. And now stores are presenting me super base level, partially aluminium entry level bikes for almost 3k. Yeah, not feeling it. Little better than a good used deal. However, the used market has realized that and increased prizes harshly over the pandemic
@blablablubbiblubb
@blablablubbiblubb Жыл бұрын
Wait for the new Shimano drivetrains, the old parts will be on sale soon
@mr.k7197
@mr.k7197 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@CrazyCranker
@CrazyCranker Жыл бұрын
The one thing I hate about Giant, is the way they market their bikes in different countries. That model TCR is not available in Japan. In fact the only models available with the Ultegra are the Di2. The lower end models come with the 105 group sets.
@gepardtilly
@gepardtilly Жыл бұрын
I'd love to ride a road bike, but they are too difficult for me, I'm not flexible enough. Could you make a video with more upright, comfortable bikes?
@gtn3x87fk9
@gtn3x87fk9 Жыл бұрын
For good value alloy bikes, you should also rake a look at Dolan’s offerings.
@calvincrane
@calvincrane Жыл бұрын
Tiagra sometimes has mechanical disc though? Yes a question..Thanks david love your vids
@Lander76
@Lander76 Жыл бұрын
You missed out the vitus zenium crs. I own one and there us no better bike for under 2k - high quality carbon frame, ultegra groupset,8kg weight and it rides fantastic - very comfortable with excellent road manners and handling.
@a1mcneagu602
@a1mcneagu602 3 ай бұрын
Not quite the group set you mention on the GIANT, comes with Shimano 105
@TarekWohncke
@TarekWohncke 10 ай бұрын
I think in this Pricerange Cube has good offerings.
@anaussieinvietnam
@anaussieinvietnam Жыл бұрын
If you 1. Pack your bike in a car 2. Take your bike on a plane 3. Ride for fun 4. Do overnight rides 5. Are over 90kg 6. Ride on a variety of roads - then you need Alloy Frames... If you 1. A show off 2. A tosser 3. Think you are some elite racer... You need a carbon frame.
@johngilhooley4296
@johngilhooley4296 Жыл бұрын
Quick question Dave. Why do you never review PlanetX bikes? A british brand with a good Rep. Just Interested. Cheers
@JoeGunawanfotosiamo
@JoeGunawanfotosiamo Жыл бұрын
Hi David, what do you think about the new Fezzari Veyo? It seems to be a really good all-around aero road bike that offers 105 di2 and Ultegra di2 12 speed for $thousands less than even the Canyon Ultimate,
@davekendall1338
@davekendall1338 Жыл бұрын
I have the same question, but as Fezzari is an American brand, he may not have had the opportunity to get hands on with one. Still curious to see how it or the Empire stack up.
@Toto8opus
@Toto8opus Жыл бұрын
1:03 I think alloy and alu are two different things. In the (not that remote) past, all bicycles were made out of steel; which is a combination (alloy) of iron and carbon, whereas alu is the material on its own. Now, maybe, that's an habit you have in the Anglosphere to call it like this.
@XerxesGustav
@XerxesGustav Жыл бұрын
Alloy is by definition a mixture of different types of metals. All aluminum bikes are alloy too, since no bike today is made from 100% aluminum. One quite common type of aluminium, named 6061 for example also contains magnesium, silicone, copper and chrome.
@tongalizia3175
@tongalizia3175 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video,,,,,,Magistroni aluminium 7005,,out of Mexico…..it does the job
@johnlowkey359
@johnlowkey359 Жыл бұрын
If I didn't have a discount on Trek, I would go for a TCR Frame. Upgrade to some Bontrager Aeolus, and you could have one heck of a bike.
@damiendenvir7953
@damiendenvir7953 Жыл бұрын
Hi David thinking of a new endurance/sportive bike.Can’t decide Canyon, Scott, Ribble or Giant what would you go for thanks?
@davidarthur
@davidarthur Жыл бұрын
What's your budget? What's the most important thing you're looking for? Frame material preferences?
@Star14trek
@Star14trek Жыл бұрын
Surprised no Boardman slr 8.9 £1750 ... It always seems to get on other lists? I only ever had the TT bike but from others+reviewers it is still great value!
@sgp7975
@sgp7975 Жыл бұрын
I've got one. One of the best bikes I've ever owned and very upgradable.
@kieranbarry8193
@kieranbarry8193 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the David Arthur drinking game: 'pricepoint' drink!
@henalihenali
@henalihenali Жыл бұрын
Great stuff..i have the TCR its great
@Rob_Evs
@Rob_Evs Жыл бұрын
Can't cover every firm which i get but being uk surely a little move love for some home grown offerings such as Ribble.would have been good
@chones_
@chones_ Жыл бұрын
One thing that drives me crazy is that quality aluminum bikes are going out of style. It's so hard to find a quality aluminum bike with decent components these days; everything is carbon fiber. But you're spot on about your comments about gravel bikes. I have an Canyon Ultimate w/ ultegra di2 and a Grail AL w/ mechanical grx. I much prefer my grail for most riding because it feels more planted on windy days going downhill. If Canyon had a aluminum ultimate with similar components to my cf sl with ultegra di2, i would have gotten that one in a heartbeat.
@davekendall1338
@davekendall1338 Жыл бұрын
Other than price, what advantages do you see in aluminum over carbon?
@cjohnson3836
@cjohnson3836 Жыл бұрын
@@davekendall1338 Ability to bolt things to a bike. If you're looking for something with utility. Bolt holes on carbon are never going to be a good thing.
@ketle369
@ketle369 Жыл бұрын
If you want to drill hole in things and also want comfortable bike-steel frames are much better than aluminum. Aluminum is very stiff. Steel soak up much more road buzz.
@MrMaxusy
@MrMaxusy Жыл бұрын
The old gen ultimate cf sl 7 is not available anymore. They replaced it with an 'updated' version that now costs €2699 and has worse components.
@shanedean4075
@shanedean4075 Жыл бұрын
Any suggestions on a bike this prove range, that could be used for a beginner triathlete that also would like to ride gravel?
@davependragon1
@davependragon1 Жыл бұрын
Bit deceptive on the Giant TCR 1, as this is the 2021 model and they have none in stock anywhere, the 2022 model they have loads of, but they are 3k
@aj1575
@aj1575 Жыл бұрын
The way to get the best bike for 2'000€ is going used. I just bought a Simplon Pavo Granfondo (Full Carbon, Shimano Ultegra, 5 years old, 4'500€ new, 3'300km) for 1'600€
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