It had to happen eventually .... every Sailors WORST nightmare 🥺 (Calico Skies Sailing, Ep 212)

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Calico Skies Sailing

Calico Skies Sailing

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0:00 Intro
0:10 Recap
1:04 Isla Isabel
3:56 Gorgeous Stop but Time to Sail On
8:41 Did We Just Sail OVER a Whale?!
14:08 Arrival to Chacala, Setting the Stern Hook
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@daneetaran8784
@daneetaran8784 6 ай бұрын
Grace if your sister doesn't mind, please keep us updated on how she is doing. Shes in my prayers , I'm a breast cancer survivor too i remember the feelings , fears and emotions, Grace you are such a great example to your sis. God bless and fill you both with strength and courage. ❤
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
hi there! i will for sure do that :) Have an update coming out in the next video :) Wishing you continued good health😘
@davidnichols147
@davidnichols147 6 ай бұрын
Yes, Grace please keep us updated on your sister's surgery, we are all praying for a fast and complete recovery.
@billmead5052
@billmead5052 6 ай бұрын
I loved seeing Grace's face light up with joy at seeing the whales so close!!! I hope your trip home went well. Fair winds sailors
@dacapo82
@dacapo82 6 ай бұрын
On our trip to Halifax last summer, we had two humpbacks decide they wanted to clean our bottom for us. First one we felt a bump in about 100 feet behind the transom the fin came up and gave a slap. Freaked us all out The next morning, we heard a similar thud and saw a pod of Minkies about 25 yards off our port. So kind of know what it was
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Wow ok that is super super freaky. This is the type of story we've heard from time to time - enough that we think about whales fairly regularly while out there! You just never know. We cruised Lake Brasdor and loved it. Its a beautiful area!
@loisphillips5826
@loisphillips5826 6 ай бұрын
Wow, must have been kind of scary seeing the whale under the boat. Great video. Always enjoy Sundays with Calico Skies
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
It was terrifying. Also thrilling. But rarely have been so terrified at sea!
@donlindell1994
@donlindell1994 6 ай бұрын
These weeks have really been fun. The whales are so exciting, but so is simply relaxing on the beach and finding remarkable shells. The birds were hilarious and I can easily relate to how Bill just talks to them like they were drinking buddies. Loved the sunset timelapse
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
So good to be back to sailing and not doctors and refits!
@donlindell1994
@donlindell1994 6 ай бұрын
@@CalicoSkiesSailing isn’t that the truth. I remember years ago when I broke my T6 vertebrae in a motorcycle accident (a 3-beer story) I spent quite some time with a voice in my head telling my I was made of porcelain and everyone treated me like a wounded soldier. It was a long time before I realized that *I* had to begin moving forward and just enjoy the world as before and pretty soon everyone else did as well. I see that time coming bit by bit. This episode was the perfect example.
@sallycupka7306
@sallycupka7306 6 ай бұрын
The sounds of sailing thru the water sounds wonderful, peaceful.
@ralphjansen9205
@ralphjansen9205 6 ай бұрын
Our prayers go out for your Sisters surgery..
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
thank u :)
@bubbagail7450
@bubbagail7450 6 ай бұрын
Great vid guys, sailing over a whale gave me flashbacks of reading Moby Dick in my youth ahhhhhhhhhhhhh. Grace you are really looking well, our prayers are with the family.
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! Def don't need a whale swimming under out boat!
@dannyfisher9223
@dannyfisher9223 6 ай бұрын
Hey guy's thanks for another awesome episode! Enjoy and stay safe!
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Thank u so much!
@BillGornicki-qj9mk
@BillGornicki-qj9mk 6 ай бұрын
Great episode! And really nice to see you’re well Grace.
@skohaya
@skohaya 6 ай бұрын
Glad the beast stayed under the water and didn't decide to pop up for a breath or view. Hope all went well with your sister's surgery. Praying quick healing & comfort for her. Pray they get all of the preCa tissue. Blessings!
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Seriously!! Thank for you she is doing well!
@beachplumb
@beachplumb 6 ай бұрын
A sailing instructor I knew back in the 90’s was also a cellist for the Boston Symphony Orchestra. He said he was practicing his cello down below in a sailboat somewhere near Stellwagen Bank (off the tip of Cape Cod), and he swears the vibration/reverberations of his playing attracted a pod of whales close to his boat. Who knows 😂
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
LOL yea I'd like to avoid that if possible, we had a buddy who was on an open 60 and hit a whate in the Atlantic
@scyz2807
@scyz2807 6 ай бұрын
Whales! You said Whales? Cool! There really were whales! : - ) And Graces response to the one that went under the boat, . . . 8 - 0 ! ! ! That gave me a good laugh. LOL
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
😂😂
@georgehiotis
@georgehiotis 6 ай бұрын
Wishing your sister a speedy recovery.
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@eileenderheim3768
@eileenderheim3768 6 ай бұрын
Love seeing whales but that must have been scary seeing it under the boat! Hoping for positive outcomes for your sister.
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
It really was! We recovered fairly quickly but this is one of those things we've talked about for years. We have friends that have hit whales and its very bad. Nothing you can do either. Thank you so very much! She is in good health!!!
@SMM-Mystery
@SMM-Mystery 6 ай бұрын
Bill, the next time you need to swing your boat around don't pull, push. Use the nose of the dinghy to push the boat around. Pulling, especially with a RIB and tied to the transom, is very hard on the motor and the boat. Just a helpful hint from someone who has learned the hard way. Hope all goes well and you guys keep fighting the good fight.
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Good idea! that was way more difficult than it needed to be haha
@darrengladstone3159
@darrengladstone3159 6 ай бұрын
Interesting, there is a differnce on the engine between pulling a pushing? I mean for a outboard playing tug boat either way its hard on the engine because you’re going to get a lot of cavitation
@Bloodwealth
@Bloodwealth 6 ай бұрын
Hi guys love the channel. I would like to hear bill talk more about your passages. Long passages or short sails like how much gas, solar, water, wind planning/weather planning, what sails and why. Idk just some ideas maybe you could add into the episodes more. I'd like to think im learning from Bill and other KZfaq sailors alike preparing for my own sailing journey one day 😊 cheers guys!!
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
HI there. Thank you so very much for your feedback. We love to receive this type of feedback it helps quite a lot so again thank you :) Its funny because these are things us sailors talk about all the time but not something I generally film. We will aim to include more about the topics youve raised for our pacific prep! Hope to see you out there some day!
@sailingarista
@sailingarista 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your excitement at the whales and prayers for your sister and your family ❤
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Thank u💓
@jeffreysearle2996
@jeffreysearle2996 6 ай бұрын
Hey, I like the mid sail gunslinger music you had going. 😎
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
thank ya :)
@vickypage8653
@vickypage8653 6 ай бұрын
Wishing your sister all the best!🌹
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! 😍
@karlfair
@karlfair 6 ай бұрын
My first experience with a whale was just outside of San Francisco. We were fishing with my grandfather, I was about 8. It came up under the boat and lifted the boat, pushing it aside. My Dad and Grandfather were not to happy. I thought, this is better than Disneyland. Adrenalin junky at 8. All the best to your sister on a speedy recovery.
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
LOl this is such a great story!!! Its funny because I considered calling this episode 'Thrilled and terrified' because I was both at the exact same time. On the one hand you are in awe but on the other its truly terrifying and potentially very bad. I bet my 8 year old self would have had the same reaction as you though! lol. Thanks for sharing Karl :)
@mamapetecooley7324
@mamapetecooley7324 6 ай бұрын
Amazing!
@Barefoot-Rob
@Barefoot-Rob 6 ай бұрын
Wow, those few spots where you had a camera fixed on the boat showing your sail, at a faster speed, really screwed with my vertigo! I had to look away, lol.
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
I have gotten seasick editing lol
@thomascallaghan5988
@thomascallaghan5988 6 ай бұрын
Great video
@rainfinger
@rainfinger 6 ай бұрын
Great video, sharing your familie's updates too.
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@jorgegorina3039
@jorgegorina3039 6 ай бұрын
Awesome video. Prayers for u and your sister. ❤❤❤🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@patriciabowe2817
@patriciabowe2817 6 ай бұрын
Enjoy your sailing resilience in all matters keeping real….. best to you both in the new year🎉❤
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Thank you friend :) Back at you with best wishes for you and your family in 2024💓
@feanor3876
@feanor3876 6 ай бұрын
Hey a good test of the radar marking bill as a danger.😊😊 On a serious note my stepmother and sister fought the same battle as you and your sister, i wish you both the best.
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
ha! Thank you💓 Im sorry to hear that. Wishing you and your family good health🙏🏻
@MrFroglips69
@MrFroglips69 6 ай бұрын
Groovy episode.
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Thank ya!!!
@sallycupka7306
@sallycupka7306 6 ай бұрын
Best wishe’s. To your sister, saying prayers 🙏🏻
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Thank u 💓
@dennishively5994
@dennishively5994 6 ай бұрын
Some really great whale video, thanks for sharing
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Thank u 🙏🏻
@b5kinner
@b5kinner 6 ай бұрын
Reminded me of what seems like a 100 yrs ago my family was cruising in the Pudget Sound. My Kids were waist high and going down the channel into SanJuan Island a Menke whale came along side - my kids were literly hanging on to the life lines and looking down this whale's blow spout. whale swam aside the boat for 30-40 minutes and only left us when we turned to go into the marina.
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Amazing creatures...from afar LOL
@Jack-ne8vm
@Jack-ne8vm 6 ай бұрын
A bridle on the skiff hooked to anchor line might keep skiff straight.
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Yes a bridle would help, learned that trying to pull off a friend who had run aground
@crowdfundcrew
@crowdfundcrew 6 ай бұрын
Love seeing whales - hope everything goes well with your sister.
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@krystynadawson3318
@krystynadawson3318 6 ай бұрын
Will be adding your sister to my prayers, Gracie. Krystyna in Wisconsin 💕🙏🏻
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@guytrent967
@guytrent967 6 ай бұрын
Great video the whales awesome
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@jonathanscott550
@jonathanscott550 6 ай бұрын
good video. Just caught an extremely quick glimpse of the whale. Yes, I agree a boater scare having a huge beauty swim under or so close to boat! Even though you set anchor in that anchorage. Won't the swell still be felt coming through? The Calico Skies logo on the sail looks awesome. Okay you two catch you next video. Grace, I hope your sister OPERATION went well. Okay you two see you next video.
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Yes it was super cool but also super scary lol. Just don't know how aware they are of boats sailing around
@jonathanscott550
@jonathanscott550 6 ай бұрын
@@CalicoSkiesSailing well you spent time with the Crazy Canuck Darryl and nothing could be scarier that that 😆 🤣
@petercaras3696
@petercaras3696 6 ай бұрын
VHF skip is very common in the Sea. I've made VHF contact with Marina Vallarta from Cabo! 285 miles. Talking to stations in Mazatlan from Baja is also not un heard of.
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Crazy isn't it! Not sure what causes that anomaly
@kelliott4588
@kelliott4588 6 ай бұрын
Grace I love how excited u get when u c whales
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Such majestic animals!
@shannonlowe2412
@shannonlowe2412 6 ай бұрын
Wow sailing over a whale 🥰. Curious if it might have been easier to use the dinghy to push your boat instead of pulling? Grace keeping your sister in my thoughts.
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Pushing may have been easier lol
@debdoyle119
@debdoyle119 6 ай бұрын
Try using a swell bridle instead
@SailingCAVU
@SailingCAVU 6 ай бұрын
When you get to Moorea you can swim with the whales, We did it when we were there highly recommend it.
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
I can not WAIT for this!!!! hi friends!
@elsiesmith1771
@elsiesmith1771 6 ай бұрын
There is a theory that the 3 American sailors & their boat that went missing last April in the Sea of Cortez (after departing from Mazatlan) might have hit a whale. Sadly no trace of the boat was ever found.
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
yikes! thats the fear, they are such big animals!
@michaelvanwinkle7919
@michaelvanwinkle7919 6 ай бұрын
You all must have entered the "Sea of Cortez Triangle." Ha!
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
🤣
@KennyP88
@KennyP88 6 ай бұрын
It would be scary to actually hit a whale, but giant octopuses would scare me more.😂😂
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
ya .. same lol
@scottthompson138
@scottthompson138 6 ай бұрын
Grace. I just love your show. And sv Delos. The only 2 shows I watch. I don’t even sail ,
@scottthompson138
@scottthompson138 6 ай бұрын
And just so you know. My mom died of breast cancer. Actually it was$
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Aw this made me smile! Super happy we're resonating with ya :)
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Im so sorry to hear this :/ It is becoming so widespread. Im very sorry for your loss.
@brucerhodes8197
@brucerhodes8197 6 ай бұрын
I know you guys are animal lovers, but being on top of a whale is probably just a little to close for comfort. That was crazy, glad everything worked out well. It's been a long time waiting, but I can just feel that Pacific crossing inching up closer and closer, it won't be long now!
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
We agree! lol, wasnt cool! It getting closer and we are excited for it!
@tomvanaalst5790
@tomvanaalst5790 6 ай бұрын
Best wishes to your sister. I hope all goes well. I don't understand why you wouldn't have used your inboard and rudder to turn the boat instead of fighting it with the dinghy.
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
ha that may have been easier..its difficult to maneuver the boat backwards without getting so movement astern, since our primary hook was already down that wasn't possible. Ideally we would have had the tender ready to go with the stern hook as we set the primary anchor. As our friends arrived we helped them set both anchors at the same time
@darrengladstone3159
@darrengladstone3159 6 ай бұрын
Tom, for your reference I did the same thing over the summer when winds shifted and I dropped a second hook. When I messaged Bill about it I think he told me at the time he normally does run the main engine. Then I pissed and moaned about not having a windlass on my 37' boat and how nice that must be.
@lindamore7594
@lindamore7594 6 ай бұрын
Grace, you are looking fabulous! What is the brand of that fabulous pink top you are wearing in this video.
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Aw thank you 😘. Ya know its actually a bra 😂 Cruisers and clothing sometimes lol Its actually Victoria Secret. I wanted a supportive but comfortable sports bra, randomly walked in there in AZ and scored it. Actually love it. Its the Featherweight Max Sports Bra: www.victoriassecret.com/us/vs/bras-catalog/1121497600?brand=&collectionId=b1415b55-1f44-437d-90ff-1bcae8926f78&limit=180&orderBy=REC&priceType=regular&productId=daa47511-a897-4024-9d92-d9f4cef30c45&stackId=98573336-f0a3-4d16-b681-cef4b25e04c7&genericId=11214976&choice=5TRG&product_position=3&stack_position=1&dataSource=manual-collection&categoryOne=TR
@cryptoscotts
@cryptoscotts 6 ай бұрын
Have you ever seen a (semi) floating cargo container? THAT would be really scary to me 🙈
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
we have not 🙏
@sailingEV888
@sailingEV888 5 ай бұрын
I would have used the nose the the dingy to push instead..
@jorgeperez7048
@jorgeperez7048 6 ай бұрын
👍👍
@jayltd.7030
@jayltd.7030 6 ай бұрын
RIP naomi terlini
@faircompetition1203
@faircompetition1203 6 ай бұрын
Every sailors worst nightmare is different , mine would be fire at sea followed by the rigg coming down
@darrengladstone3159
@darrengladstone3159 6 ай бұрын
I think my nightmare sailing would be clowns… clowns boarding the boat. Creepy.
@Pasovineyard
@Pasovineyard 6 ай бұрын
🙂🙂
@maryshevlin7667
@maryshevlin7667 6 ай бұрын
I thought you meant you were sinking or capsized - those would be much worse that seeing whales.
@darrengladstone3159
@darrengladstone3159 6 ай бұрын
I think the risk is hitting a big intelligent animal… which may kill them but also would be like hitting a reef that can swim, and would easily crush your bow or catastrophically damage a keel or rudder.
@Dwade689
@Dwade689 6 ай бұрын
So I was right, Bill did use soap 😂
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
😂
@codystout5353
@codystout5353 6 ай бұрын
I have read stories about whales attacking boats
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Yes in Europe! Orca attacks have become quite common there
@donclay3511
@donclay3511 6 ай бұрын
How come you're using a vertical windmill instead of a horizontal one?
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
I'm not sure I've seen a marine version that was horizontal 🤔, not really sure why they are designed that way
@gidge34
@gidge34 6 ай бұрын
BILL ARE YOU AND JASON ANDERSON TWINS?
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
had to look him up .. wow def see the resemblance!
@timepasses3380
@timepasses3380 6 ай бұрын
Wishing the best for you and your family, health-wise in particular. Great video as usual, not a fan of dramatic thumbnails and titles.
@yesbigfootyes6902
@yesbigfootyes6902 6 ай бұрын
MMMMMMMMMMMMM
@gidge34
@gidge34 6 ай бұрын
Yo, algorithm wtf
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
😂
@stuartdeane9618
@stuartdeane9618 6 ай бұрын
Next time try taken the anchor out to wear you want it take rope back to the yacht and which your self around.
@laurariley308
@laurariley308 6 ай бұрын
🐋🐋🐳🐳
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻
@leonasimmons162
@leonasimmons162 6 ай бұрын
Can a whale flip a boat?
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Not sure about that but they can definitely sink a boat. We have heard stories and we have friends that have hit whales causing catastrophic damage. Def something we think about while we're out there!
@davekimbler2308
@davekimbler2308 6 ай бұрын
So what is the saIlers NIGHTMARE ? When i was in the navy it was running out of beer and smokes ! lol.. We would hit 1 or 2 whales a week on a bad week ! But Helga hold onto your boobs if we ran out of beer and smokes ! lol. Helga was our code for Blond well gifted woman .
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
😂😂
@darrengladstone3159
@darrengladstone3159 6 ай бұрын
Yar!
@julianbatcheler9970
@julianbatcheler9970 6 ай бұрын
You Tube unsubscribed me from you… have heard of this happening… very annoying.
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
Thats strange!! Wonder why that would happen! 😬
@reversingentropy
@reversingentropy 6 ай бұрын
Just a heads up, cick bait might get you more views in one video but less in the following. You know that wasn't a nightmare, much less sailors WORST nightmare Not coming back cuz i hate being deceived by over dramatization click batty titles. Good luck, and fair winds.
@CalicoSkiesSailing
@CalicoSkiesSailing 6 ай бұрын
You're not totally wrong, but this actually is our worst nightmare. Its the only thing we have absolutely zero control over. Bill and I are pretty laid back but this was a very scary experience for both of us. We have friends that have hit whales and its something we've talked about for years. Thankfully no damage was done but again there was zero that we could do. Sorry to see you go & thank you for your feedback!
@reversingentropy
@reversingentropy 6 ай бұрын
@@CalicoSkiesSailing I respect your point of view. Where im from (Portugal), Whales (actually orcas) literally hunt you down and rip out your rudder sometimes sinking the boat... 10m (35 feet) waves in 8 sec period are very common, you either have no wind or 40kts, fishing traps everywhere ready to break your prop while you are just trying to keep the boat from going beam in to the wave and get knocked down etc etc... that's why i thought almost hitting a whale in a fair wether day was not a big whoop 😂. Thanks for the reply 🙏 cheers
@darrengladstone3159
@darrengladstone3159 6 ай бұрын
@@reversingentropyI haven’t heard of any of those boats sinking or people being harmed? 59 North had a good in depth conversation podcast on this topic that included people with local knowledge. Sounds like once again the biggest concerns are related more to boat damage, and how to humanely deter the Orcas. Fishermen using explosives which is arguably inhumane. It is all still in the context of humane treatment of the wildlife as the key conern. Do you agree?
@reversingentropy
@reversingentropy 6 ай бұрын
@@darrengladstone3159 Multiple boats sunk no deaths so far that i know about. All information available on Google. It's easy to be all delicate about the issue and talk is very easy. The truth is, there is no solution, it is what it is. I have seen terrified sailors after an attack, they all say the same... It's very agressive it's not playful at all. Nevertheless polar bears, wolfs, tigers etc aren't friendly either if you venture in their habitat, you are taking the risk. That said, now we pay attention to orca predicted location the same way we do for tides and weather.
@ckfpv
@ckfpv 6 ай бұрын
Quit talking so fast brother slow down you look like your stressed 8:05 geeez take a deep breath and relax
@darrengladstone3159
@darrengladstone3159 6 ай бұрын
I think that is Bills New-York-iness peaking out
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