Fun fact: Death 13 could easily kill Giorno Giovanna because he always has a dream

To be fair, Mannish boy was a baby, and seeing Polnareff when he was young his stand was also weak, so maybe when Mannish Boy grows up Death 13 will become more powerful, Plus compared to other Part 3 Stand users, his development potential is B, which is quite high and also backs up my statement

i actually really liked the arc because of kakyoin's reactions to everything and him thinking hes going insane

Has a portable sun for a stand. Ends up working for a vampire.

Yeah but the user is 11 months old. It's a fucking baby versus a bunch of adults. It seems to be a pretty solid stand, and the user could be strong when it's actually grown up. The fact that he had the entire squad on the ropes is an impressive feat in itself.

Okay, but as we saw in the Alessi arc, a naturally occuring stand will grow stronger as the user grows up and matures, and as shown in Rohan Kishibe's Adventure, even a slight change in the user's worldview or mindset can drastically improve a stand's usefulness by allowing it to overcome some of its weaknesses(both cases, of course, depend on the stand's developmental potential), so the question is: would an older and more mature Mannish Boy end up having a stronger version of Death 13, thus making the stand legitimately powerful?

Death 13 is one of the strongest stands period. Also no, you cannot wake up if you are "scared enough." Polnareff woke Kakyoin up because he was frantic in his sleep. If you ask me, the stand actually has the power to increase the potency of your sleep. Kaykoin didnt even wake up in a falling plane with everyone screaming around him. And he was literally carving himself up and eating eyeballs, you'd think he would have woken up in "fear" if that was a thing. Everyone in this world is not a stand user, which means he can instantly kill anyone if he didnt fuck around. Plus he's only 11 fucking months. That's like saying Silver chariot at 4 years old is weak because it couldnt do anything. Regardless of the user's intelligence, the stand is still not as powerful as it will be for an adult. It's highly likely that the range could develop into 30-50 meters by the time the user is 20 due to the B in potential. It is also possible that it would develop the power to sneak into a dream in the future. Combine that with the fact that it's literally impossible to tell you were attacked by it unless you carve "attacked by stand in sleep" into your arm, which is almost useless by the way. And you seem to be underestimating the range. Apparently even though it had an E, it was still capable of a *minimum* 5 meter radius because he caught both the dog and Kakyoin in range, which were considerably far apart. And that's just assuming the baby was in the middle of them and not further away, considering he should have been in someone's house at that point in time. It's already strong, with the potential to become way stronger than any stand in the real world.

4:16 I think you made an error there. Kakyoin wasn't so scared that he woke himself up. Polnareff just happened to wake him up around the time that the dog dies. Kakyoin even thanks Polnareff for saving him, despite Kakyoin forgetting the events that happened in the dream. Unless it's different in the manga or a bad anime translation

B A B Y S T A N D

it's just a anime version of freddy krueger

You bring up many good points but you glossed over the fact that the user is indeed only 11 months old. Him being only 11 months means that his stand has still awhile to develop to it's full potential. We know that stands develop while the user grows up through the Sethan arc. On top of that Death 13 has a B in developmental potential so we can assume that as Mannish Boy gets older that Death 13 would get stronger and eventually be able to counteract many of the things he cannot do that you brought up in the video. Overall I agree that Death 13 is weak in it's currently state but I do believe that it could be even stronger as Mannish Boy develops, sadly we never got to see that. Anyways great video Meti

If Kakyoin was killed by Death 13 and the STAND BABY was on his arm Jotaro would of curb stomped the shit out of that baby

Im sure a few of these reasons are due to the user. Death 13 is best as an assassin stand but that directly conflicts with manish boys want for toying with prey. He lost because he gave up the element of surprise. Plus Kakyoin bringing out his stand at the right time was luck at best. But as a normal combat stand it does suck.

Relying on part 3-4 stand stats isn’t the best idea

It's practically useless in Japan.

Despite its flaws, Death 13 could've easily killed the entire crew if Manish Boy waited for the middle of the night to attack. Instead, he attacked Kakyoin during the morning and later the crew inside a helicopter, creating the scenario that led Kakyoin to go to sleep with his stand. 5:11 I think that by unconcious, it means that the person is literally asleep or passed out. While Jotaro and Shizuka used their stands unconsciously in the sense that they used it instinctively.

Death 13 and Bohemian Rhapsody are amazing, on the surface. Both have shitty stand users. Both are easily defeatable.

Death 13 cannot just harm, but also heal people in his dream world - maybe he can even do more things. And healing stands are always at least a bit useful

Death 13 requium Make dream waifus into physical world

Can be used as an assassination stand by making the target fall asleep somehow like with some sort of poisoned tea... Or something... Even if you fail to kill the target they wont know that the dream even happened. Also there's nothing restricting Death 13 from just killing the target immediately once they enter the dream world, Death 13 only scares Kakyoin because the user was a cocky baby.

Personally, I blame all the shortcomings on him being a baby. Mannish may be smart, but he’ll be too immature and his mental growth is already altered by being with DIO and having a Stand. Give him a few years, and not only do I think the Stand will mature, but possibly hone and expand his abilities. But, as it stands (hah), he only has the bare essentials and doesn’t consider the consequences of his Stand.

But then, Death-13 also has what is arguably one of Freddy Kreuger's potentially greatest strengths: even if you know it is a thing that will attack you when you sleep, you will still not want to sleep and get attacked by it. Therefore, you will want to stay awake so that don't get attack by it, and eventually start succumbing to sleep deprivation and the many horrible symptoms that can manifest from that. So, I have to strongly disagree when you say Death-13 sucks, coz I think even that potential psychological impact it can have is more than enough to make it a decent stand.

Imagine waking up in the middle of the night to that thing in that park tho. I'd piss both of my pants

It would probably be a lot stronger if its user didn't play with his food and just killed them quickly.

Nobody: Literally nobody: Death 13: L O L I H O!!!

I mean jotaro, shizuka, and giorno weren't unconscious, they were just unaware they had stands

At least we can agree that Mannish Boy is a better stand user than Shizuka. Well, for being a baby.

Actually he can actually prevent injures from coming out of real world, he did heal Kakyoyin arm at the end of the episode, that means he is also a superb healing stand as he can heal people in dreams and affect reality

In all fairness, Death 13 does erase your memery of it when you wake up.

2:15 No. There’s no way. The “Snooze” option in Smash is actually, quite possibly, a Jojo reference?

One dude has the kill dio button and Joseph let him go

Tbh I loved the Death 13 arc, it was amusing watching Kakyoin freak out and Polnareff was just there having fun

I'm sure if Mannish Boy grew up and practicied with his Stand, it would become more powerful, maybe even manifest in the real life as a Stand that, can go throught solid matter, float/levitate, use it's Scythe and, force people to fall asleep and make them wake up only when it says so Also, it makes sense why Mannish Boy has such flaws, he's too pround of being a intelligent baby that he forgets about a lot of things that might have worked, and this "genious baby" clearly has more to learn -he's out smarted by Kakyoin, the smartest in the crusaders- about everything

I'm guessing in this case the big reason it didn't succeed was that the user was a baby. Hell it has plenty of potential as to stats. So if Kakyoin scared him straight Mannish Boy may well have used it for good as he grew.. having Dio as a role model doesn't help much either really

You're missing one glaring advantage people don't remember these dreams. even if he doesn't kill them, just cuts them, they'll wakeup thinking it's just some weird scratch or the stand operates differently they only remember the dream if their stand was in it

my boy really got sub-conscious and unconscious confused

some of the flaws you listed may be due to the fact the user is not intelligent enough to utilise their stand to the fullest.

Remember when silver chariot can shoot his sword in the Anubis arc

Baby: come on sleep Gamer: *i don't know what that means*

I wouldn't mind seeing this as a future series. Let's face it, there are a few of stands that are either lame, lazy, or just plain unmemorable.

But everyone has to sleep, and with that B…the kid isn’t even 1 yet…his range could also probably be increased

So you can kill someone while they sleep, and nothing else. Literally any character can do that.

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Or how stupid the user is. If it had killed Kakyoin at the start of the arc, it may have scared Jotaro and the others into leaving, forcing MB to lose his targets, and since it’s a baby, not find them again. If it had succeeded in killing Polnareff and Kakyoin in the plane, it would be obvious that the baby was the user, and the group would just finish the baby off. And going with them wouldn’t have worked either, as they would probably have reached their destination alright since they wouldn’t have crashed. All in all, the Stand has potential, but a shit user. There are many Stands with problems, and Death 13, has more than most, but it had a slim chance. And the User wastes them.

Thing is, Death 13 didn't know that Kakyoin was carving words into his arm. If he had known, he could've healed the wounds like he did at the end of the arc before they transferred into the real world. Also Polnareff was the one to wake Kakyoin at first, he didn't wake himself up.

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Personally, I’d love to see Mannish Boy come back as an adult and with an improved stand (seeing as he has a B in potential). Perhaps he could induce some sort of daydream in which Death 13 can manifest itself and attack it’s target, as well as maybe improving it’s range, speed, and power a bit. Maybe it wouldn’t be as strong when manifesting itself in a daydream than it is in an actual dream, and maybe Mannish Boy would actually be able to tell the difference between something he made in the dream world vs something he didn’t make, meaning that a stand would actually have to sneak up on Death 13 without him noticing it. I don’t know though, I just figured it would be kind of cool to see a minor stand user from part 3 (that actually survived) come back, at least as some kind of cameo or something (maybe about to attack, but recognizing Jotaro, deciding it wasn’t worth getting ora ora’d, and running away) and Mannish Boy seems like the most obvious choice seeing as he would be an adult at this point. What do you guys think?

4:16 I think I watched Stardust Crusaders with alternative subtitles, but they said that Polnareff was the one to wake Kakyoin up {EDIT} I think I also read somewhere that while beeing in Death 13's dream, people can't wake up naturally

I think I know what might be next. It Just Sucks: Dragons Dream and/or Planet Waves?

Death 13 ? More like Death part 6

I think he would be the perfect stand when it comes to assassinating a single target, all it has to do is to wait until the target hoes to sleep (preferably in a hotel or somwhere similar) and create the dream world then just simply finish him in one quick strike (I think Kakyoin only survived because death 13 decided to toy with him before killing him)

To be fair at the end of the arc we see that Death 13 could heal Kakyoin's wound, he just didn't notice it was a message. Conversely one could argue that if Death 13 cut the bullshit and went straight for the kill there was very little that Kakyoin and Polnareff could have done. That said it still has many flaws.

Death 13 could beat Gold Experience Requiem because Giorno always has a dream. (Yes it's a jojoke)

non related to death 13 but since you talked about the sun...in part 3 we see that stands can shrink in size, does that mean that arabia fat could make a mini the sun ? That could be more useful then the normal one

Okay, here's how the whole "Unconscious Stand" scenario works based on events in the manga and anime: When you're a child (like that baby from JJBA4), and you have developed a stand, you have little to know control over the stand's actions, and could unconsciously activate it's ability based on the torrent of emotions and thoughts in your still developing mind. To bring your stand into the dream world, you need to fall asleep while the stand is out, which takes a lot of dream concentration (or lucid dreaming) for it to work. This is all hypothetical though.

Death 13: kills people while they are asleep. Me, an insomniac: *Laughs in immune to knockoff grim reapers*

I just wished he came back to flesh out his powers. It would've been interesting to see him again in Part 6 or something.

4:33 Mannish boy can heal wounds. Making this point moot.

wow meti i can't wait for you to do this for part six i mean your probably gonna have a field day!

I, Noriaki Kakyoin, have a Dream.

_But you have to admit the Stands design looks Awesome._

People will probably disagree, but think about it.... You can't use a stand to fight and you need to be around someone as they sleep to use the Stand. By that point, why wouldn't you instead just have your Stand kill them in their sleep? This entire thing only works if you're specifically in a situation where you can't kill make it obvious that you're killing them, but even then, unless you can make it look like one heck of a god-tier accident, any group would immediately realize "Oh, maybe this new guy is the reason why one of us is just dead now?

Superfly hard counters death 13, just climb in the Dream Pylon, it's always active!

Ohh the Sun....I can't wait to see you make a vid of it

The thing is that we've seen Koichi's stand evolve over time, this could potentially also be the case for Death 13, seeing as his stand is a literal baby.

Title name gave me a chuckle

I’d be too powerful against a stand like this because I’m the lightest sleeper I know. Plus whenever I have nightmares I can tell things are starting to go bad and I think to myself “hmm, no” and then I wake myself up. So he’d scare me and I’d be like uhm bye. I would loose a lot of sleep though...

I keep getting Lil bomber mixed up with Aerosmith. Thx a lot Meti and Xforts!

also, an extra, Death 13 is so physically weak it cannot escape the choke hold of Hieorphant Green

I'm guessing Jotaro had minor influence on Star Platinum back then. Basically thinking "Don't let this bullet kill me. Don't let this bullet kill me. Don't let this bullet kill me." Is what triggered the summon. It's also what caused him to use it against the thugs. He wanted to kick their asses.

The reason Kakyoin woke up at the beginning wasn't because of the fear he felt, it was because Polnareff shook him awake. He did mention that you can only wake up if someone else wakes you up.

Well, it does keep them asleep. You can only wake up if someone wakes you up.

>be me >watching this video before going to sleep >ohgodohfuck.jpg

I have a question Why didn't kakyoin draw Dio and scribble his head with red paint? And why doesn't Polnareff wish Dio was dead?

I'm the type of person who can wake myself up from nightmares before they get worse. So even normal humans can avoid getting killed lol.

This guy can help you get lucid dreams whenever you wanted and you think that this is a bad ability?

April 1st happend 10 days ago

What's the anime at 5:20?

I've had Ninja re bang bang stuck in my head all week. I knew the bgm sounded familiar…

This Stand has the power to heal others in the nightmare world. It isn't as useless as it seems

Nothing can beat Akarin!

Question is, how in The World did Mannish Baby meet DIO??????

When you made the argument that jotaro uses star platinum without thinking and that contradicted the rule of non stands activating when unconscious, you seem to have mixed up “subconscious” and “unconscious”. Star platinum and other stands have activated subconsciously without their users knowing.

I think this is a perfect exaple of good stand and bad stand user. The main issue is, if he just killed the person as soon as they enter, every problem would dissappear except the fact that he can't defend the user.

It just sucks: my life

So basically. . Yes, But no.

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I like how he paused and thought about it before selling out

Cool video but when are you gonna make a video on zipperboi? We know so little of him or his stand "I always get pinned comment"

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Rally Ho is also what dwarves say in final fantasy

I just realized something Kakyoin asked Mannish Boy to fix his Wounds .....Can Death 13 be a Healer ? - Maybe he can do great many things as long as he can get ppl to sleep Surgery, Plastice Surgery, possibly reverse aging ? Is there a limit there ?

A lot of good points being made in the comment section as to why the stand could grow a lot. May I add the point that a grown man of genius nature, such as MB should become, can easily use Alcohol and Narcotics to his advantage and make his target fall asleep. And also most of the points made in the video are based on the user playing with his prey instead of killing them within seconds of entering dream land.

I feel like you're just rambling on about it's weaknesses and not realising how unlikely those weaknesses are to actually be exploited. Mannish Boy wasn't able to realize that Hierophant Green was real because the possibility that someone would leave their stand active whilst they sleep is so rare he didn't expect it. I mean, most of Mannish Boy's success came from the fact that him being a baby was likely to lower people's guard. Had Mannish Boy killed Kakyoin quickly instead of scaring him do you think those weaknesses would of mattered. The only way someone would plan so far ahead as to activate their stand before going to sleep specifically to counter stands like Death 13 would be either someone that's unrealistically paranoid, or someone that already knows how Death 13 works. The first counter is a trait only seen in a handful of characters so it doesn't matter that much, but to deal with the second counter all the boy would have to do is kill them before they realise what his stand is. Like, what are they gonna about it, force themselves awake, oh wait, Death 13 prevents that. So really the fault there lies in the user, a literal *BABY* being stupid. And it may suck that it can't protect the user, but as long as the user isn't an idiot pisses people off for no reason, that wouldn't really be a problem. You also seemed to ignore the fact that Death 13 has no weakness against any stand that has less than a B in durability, as leaving your stand active whilst you're unconscious isn't something that can be done with mediocre durability. So essentially the only scenario where Death 13 would suck as much as you say would be when a stand user, who isn't afraid to curb stomp a baby, that already knows exactly how Death 13 works, decides to activate his stand, which either has an A or a B in durability, before they go to sleep and manages to sneak attack Death 13 before Death 13 can just kill the user. Any slight variation in that scenario and Death 13 is pretty much guaranteed a victory, but apparently he still sucks because he has weaknesses. SMH.

its real good for sneak attacks if they dont have the chance to summon their stand as they fall asleep but once the jig is up baby boy is done for

Kinda wish you posted this on friday the 13, good video btw

While the video is correct in respect to Death 13's ability in the context of part 3, many of the flaws of the stand (such as scaring the user awake and not recognizing that Hireophant Green was not his creation) are more flaws of the user. Though, that also raises the question of whether or not Mannish Boy directly controls the stand or if he is simply always aware of its automated activities. Regardless, yeah. I do enjoy the video though.

You forgot that he's just a baby, he still can improve

The only dream walker to appear in my dreams was queen scarlet randomly ages after a mostly forgot about them after only encountering them through a review that I watched 4 months before the appearance, the review freaked me out because I expected the hero’s journey instead of diet water ship down featuring dragons and the trolley problem.