It says 4K, but can it handle it?

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5 жыл бұрын

This is the #Amcrest NV4108E-HS #4K 8CH POE #NVR. It has 8 channels and says it can record 4k, but I think the hardware needs beefed up a little to make it work smoothly.
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@danielchao6635
@danielchao6635 Жыл бұрын
*I like the pan and tilt feature. great **Newest.Technology** camera!*
@Thenebrosity
@Thenebrosity 5 жыл бұрын
12:13 = The entire 15min video in wrapped up in 25secs. You're Welcome.
@parillo12
@parillo12 5 жыл бұрын
Now i'll be speaking from experience from when i'm running over 45 5mp ip cameras at once (using Blue Iris). There's no need to have high framerates. 10fps for non important (low traffic area IE: garage). 15fps max for anything that is of high traffic. 20-30 fps should ONLY be used for High priority cash transaction places or license plate capture. Crank up the res so you can punch in on the video. It's useless to have smooth video with no way to identify your target. The only tidbit is don't go below 10fps or you will have a bad case of teleport syndrome.
@lunchie80
@lunchie80 5 жыл бұрын
Biggest factors in capturing plates outside are not framerates (within reason) but more to do with pixels and exposure time. Less frames with higher res and a fast shutter time will capture plates. This is ESPECIALLY true at night. When I say less frames, 12fps at 4k with a short exposure time will be better than 25fps at 1440 or 1080 with blurred images.
@Robynloveshred
@Robynloveshred 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up. I just ordered one two days ago. I'm not close to your level but appreciate the video. I am going to hook up about 4 jennov cameras. They are amazing for 60.00 as they use intelligent tracking and the camera follows the motion.
@netpasya
@netpasya 4 жыл бұрын
I have that same unit--all 8 channels recording 24/7 with no issues. There's a mixture of different Amcrest cameras connected to it. I too struggle with having it display all 8 channels. It doesn't bother be as much anymore because I rarely sit in front of it. I always access it remotely. And remotely (whether from a PC or mobile device), it has no trouble displaying all 8 channels at once. The isolation of the cameras that you mention, I think it's by design. That's to keep the heavy video traffic off your main network. Also, it's good for security since you don't have the cameras' web interface accessible on your network--to get to them, you have to go through the NVR. This is my first NVR. Overall, I like it. By the way, I installed an 8TB Hard Drive in mine even though it says it can only accept up to a 6TB. The 8 TB is working fine. I see all 8TB of space. I needed the space because I have several channels recording at 4K, some at 2K, some at 1080p, and I wanted to keep them for several weeks.
@netpasya
@netpasya 4 жыл бұрын
By the way, problem solved. After I enabled the substream on all cameras, I can now view all 8 cameras on the screen attached to the NVR. Now I understand why it's tough to display multiple 4K stream on 1 connected display. But they're all recording in 4K. Ultimately that's what counts.
@jeffstrains4014
@jeffstrains4014 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the review loved the DeLorean in the back lol.
@iCANT_BELIEVE_YOU_SAID_THAT
@iCANT_BELIEVE_YOU_SAID_THAT 4 жыл бұрын
Cool. How do you drop or up the resolutions in these cameras individually? I'm getting a little less than 1080 and all of them. Thanks.
@JoshuaCorley
@JoshuaCorley 5 жыл бұрын
did u go in the web interface for the unifi camera and turn on the RTSP feed on
@stevenqiu4682
@stevenqiu4682 2 жыл бұрын
Great review !
@karimmifflin1507
@karimmifflin1507 5 жыл бұрын
I was just wondering if you could turn off DHCP on the device ?
@burtonhcoy
@burtonhcoy 5 жыл бұрын
I have several of these systems and I have no problem showing all of my 4k camera's showing up on the screen at once. Its strange that its not working for you. I am using the NVR that does not have POE built in so that might be the difference.
@greggould4275
@greggould4275 5 ай бұрын
Great review! I am researching for a system and stumbled upon Amcrest. I saw a few reviews on Onwote systems, and people were a bit annoyed that Onwte was a Chinese company (security concerns). Do you know if AMcrest is Chinese? American? Anywhere else? Also, in considering my setup, I have a back house / shed that I was thinking about putting in an 8 channel switch, and have all of the cameras plug into it, running a singular Ethernet cable into the house to hook into the NVR.. I noticed you mentioned this kinda has a bult in switch, bu, to keep things clean, I'd like to just have a switch in the back house and run a singular cable to plug into the box.... would a setup like that work for this unit?
@HomesByGlen
@HomesByGlen 5 жыл бұрын
I noticed if you monitor the multi cam view's Sub-stream (in my case I use 128kbps) it refreshes much quicker and all cams view fine simultaneously... :)
@colinandkerry
@colinandkerry 5 жыл бұрын
I use VLC player to few my amcrest dav files.
@wild8757
@wild8757 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t know about your NVR but by Amcrest 1080P DVR has smart search button , you push the button and it only stops at motion detection spots and then skips to the next one, you can actually fast forward through that also and hit the stop button when it gets to the one you want to see, works great
@additudeobx
@additudeobx 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Thumbs up! If I had 6 Cameras that I was recording 24/7 and connected them POE thru to the back of this NVR unit then I think that would use less of my LAN Bandwidth than if I connected the 6 cameras thru a LAN switch then connected to this NVR unit. Is that correct? If the 6 cameras were on the LAN and recording 24/7 they would use up a lot of the LAN bandwidth, correct? But if the cameras were connected directly to the NVR unit then LAN bandwidth would be largely unaffected. Is that right?
@jeffherdzina6716
@jeffherdzina6716 5 жыл бұрын
I was wondering how the sun affects the cameras with a house that points East and West ? Does the quality stay the same ...or does it take a nose dive when the sun is hitting directly into the lens ?
@HomesByGlen
@HomesByGlen 5 жыл бұрын
On my NV4108-HS NVR, I've noticed using VBR(variable bit rate) reduces the stream/recording when not much movement is detected, hence faster LiveView and less HDD space, even though I'm using H.265, QFHD, 15fps, 6912kbps rate, and 30 s.
@playstationwins8459
@playstationwins8459 4 жыл бұрын
will this amcrest nvr let me plug my amcrest bullet camera straight to the nvr or do I need to keep my poe+ switch?
@rottison
@rottison 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason I do not if you will even see this but it has been a while sense you did this video. What is your feelings on this DVR now do you use it or send it back? I have 10 8k cameras and 2 5mp cameras I was looking at this dvr till I seen your video not sure about buying it now. all my cameras have been switched over to dahua firmware and the amcrest NVR I have has also been switched back to dahua. It was made by them so why not but it has increased the over all performance of the cameras and the nvr and some new functionality bottom line would you buy this dvr today with your own money???
@whoopn
@whoopn 5 жыл бұрын
8K is being referred to in Japan as Super Hi-Vision (its basically 8k, as we would see it from Hollywood)
@jameslee522
@jameslee522 4 жыл бұрын
how well does motion work with other cameras?
@FRITTY12348546
@FRITTY12348546 3 жыл бұрын
Did you find the NVR was loud and replacing the fans was a good idea?
@user241000
@user241000 5 жыл бұрын
This is a rebranded Dahua NVR, as well as some of the Cameras... and it has some Problems when Cameras are connected via ONVIV ...
@Impractical_Engineer
@Impractical_Engineer 5 жыл бұрын
Can you purchase and review the dahua dh-sd49225t-hn please! 25X PTZ with a sony Starvis sensor.
@BjornFSE
@BjornFSE 4 жыл бұрын
Does this Also Support the Wireless IP Cameras?? (Connected to Wifi)
@GeorgeOu
@GeorgeOu 4 жыл бұрын
Does this record the H.265 stream without transcoding? That seems more rational because it takes less CPU and does not lose another generation of compression.
@greggould4275
@greggould4275 5 ай бұрын
...Actually, I had one more question - you mentioned 6 cameras may be the sweet spot for this box - when researching 5MB vs 8MB(4k), I really didn't see a HUGE difference that would make a difference for y purposes. For a cheaper price, I may even buy four or five 5MB cameras, and maybe 1 8MB camera for the front of the house.. If I were to do something like that, do you think each of those cams at their full resolutions wouldn't overwhelm this system? Or maybe the 8MB IS kind of overkill, as I, too, would rather have more FPS on all feeds, so, maybe all 5MB streams might just be fine. Again, the clarity of 5MB Cameras looked fine to me.
@MOAB-UT
@MOAB-UT Жыл бұрын
What DVR can you recommend for me today. Budget is 500 or less.
@ernestochavira8051
@ernestochavira8051 3 жыл бұрын
Onvif Camera Dahua is compatible with this NVR ?
@RyanCrismanTN
@RyanCrismanTN 5 жыл бұрын
Ubnt does not support onvif you have to use one of the cameras RTSP streams to connect too
@OperationDx1
@OperationDx1 5 жыл бұрын
I noticed you are using the wrong type of hard drive in your unit. Not sure if that is causing problems.
@JohnLeyMystikmusic
@JohnLeyMystikmusic 4 жыл бұрын
What nvr do you favor right now?
@aaa000777
@aaa000777 5 жыл бұрын
The black screens from some of the cameras is probably because your BlueIris software is also using them and those cameras can not stream to more than one source at a time. Try them again with only the NVR accessing them.
@jimfl47
@jimfl47 Жыл бұрын
DAV is one of two formats that can be used as evidence in courts. DAV can not be edited and is illegal to even try to come up with any software that will allow it to be edited. MP4 can easily be edited and therefore can not be used as evidence. One needs a DAV viewer or a DAV to MP4 converter which is easily found on line. Believe me, you want the NVR to save them as a DAV file.
@Impractical_Engineer
@Impractical_Engineer 5 жыл бұрын
Looks at you Mr green grass in December
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, his yard looked good. I noticed that too. Mine looks like Shiet at this time of year.
@barshasdemir494
@barshasdemir494 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, does this device allow remote administration? For instance, changing the FPS per camera, restarting POE cameras, etc.
@BloodSeeker117
@BloodSeeker117 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@allent555
@allent555 5 жыл бұрын
Could you do a review of NX witness please
@shernaj255
@shernaj255 5 жыл бұрын
I am sending my NVR back for all the bugs on its software, what would anyone recommend in here as form of an upgrade? I ordered a NAS so hopefully made the right choice.
@kamilsutkowski9284
@kamilsutkowski9284 3 жыл бұрын
Just wondering why the red drive over a purple drive?
@jamesu
@jamesu 5 жыл бұрын
I have the Amcrest NV4116E-HS with 12 cameras all 4mp . Any camera directly connected to the NVR will display the picture instantly in the 16 image window. Cameras on remote switches tend to vary. I changed my network so my POE switch plugged into the NVR Gig port and then my poe switch into my network and now all of my cameras pop up instantly. Even on a single subnet, my HP gig switches caused too much delay and slow throughput to the NVR.
@kaimanson3174
@kaimanson3174 5 жыл бұрын
true, I had mine wired straight up to a gigabit poe switch and problem solved.
@Im1CrazyCow
@Im1CrazyCow 5 жыл бұрын
Howdy Jason, you Brought up about Amcrest's 16 channel POE, I looked into it a while back when Reolink would not budge on their 16 channel Unrealistic price for an NVR........But the Amcrest 16 is actually and 8 Channel POE and you have to Buy a secondary switch to get 16 POE channels ......they do the same thing for their 32 channel set up it comes with 16 Poe ch but you need switches to make up the difference......so your Comment about Better hardware in the 16 CH version I dont think it is any different. To be honest Jason with all the BS I have found with Reolink and even a couple issues with others im over them all . I Just found that ROELINK Cam Drop Out you talked about they Just shut off for NO reason some times at Odd times, 1 of them did not even restart so I think if i keep the Reolink's they will go up in the barn on something thats NO biggie if it drops off, IF i even keep them after there blowing me off I am a bit Pissed at there lack of Customer response .....Heck even Hikvison replied to me on Twitter when Reolink Did No to there OWN tweet!! After Hikvision emailing me 3x they are sending me 6 cams , 2 bullet style, 2 domes style cams, 1 Large PTZ's Like the one you had mounted but it sounds alot bigger By the #'s he told me and last is a 1 PTZ mini dome... I cant wait to try out!! Anyway just thought ide let you know about the NVR on Amcrest.........Be safe. Cow }:-o)
@allensmith5952
@allensmith5952 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if your delays on the video's loading is caused by your blue iris also pulling video. Possible the camera is struggling to serve two video pulls? Just a thought.
@alexsurber9404
@alexsurber9404 4 жыл бұрын
Probably not, the streams are encoded and served up without regard as to what devices are receiving them. As long as his network infrastructure was gigabit then it should've had no problem even with two devices accepting the traffic at once.
@watsss
@watsss 5 жыл бұрын
Amcrest NVR or Synology NVR?
@scooterjes
@scooterjes 5 жыл бұрын
I have cheap TigerSecu NVR and if I export video from the NVR itself it saves .vob files but if I use the activeX plugin in Internet Exploder I can actually get .avi files. BTW the export process is EXTREMELY slow on export as well.
@deseremere
@deseremere 3 жыл бұрын
Finally somebody honestly says that this 4K NVR is crap. And this one has quad core CPU. They still sell NV2116-HS with a dual core and also call it 16-channel 4K
@iandroo888
@iandroo888 3 жыл бұрын
heh wish i had this video when i got this. at least i have 8 channel running but i noticed how it cant handle max spec everything.
@robertbarnett6879
@robertbarnett6879 4 жыл бұрын
If the NVR can't handle 4k very well will that affect devices monitoring it?
@netpasya
@netpasya 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think the issue has anything to do with not handling 4K very well. It records 4K fine. The problem is displaying all 8 channels at the same time on the screen that you have connected to it. Interestingly enough, it displays all 8 channels fine when you're looking at them remotely (through a PC/laptop or a mobile device). Most people are not going to be monitoring the displays in front of the NVR. Even when you see a security guard looking at several screens, he/she is looking at it remotely. The NVR is not in front of them.
@wild8757
@wild8757 4 жыл бұрын
Use the Amcrest surveillance pro rather than the regular Amcrest app
@dyshuk
@dyshuk 5 жыл бұрын
Ubiquiti doesn't support onvif, the prime reason I got rid of mine
@timramich
@timramich 4 жыл бұрын
I started actually hooking up the cameras to this NVR today (specifically the NV4116E-HS) and I am absolutely pissed and ready to break the hunk of junk over my knee. Too bad it's not mine. Took hours to get cameras to finally start adding. Then after I get to adding the 5th and 6th one, the thing locks up. Restart it, the thing is painfully slow and I get nowhere. When it does work, not all cameras actually feed video in that live view. Any that do, and you go to enlarge them, it won't load the video. Go back to the screen showing multiple cameras and it has to reload everything, sometimes not doing so and erroring out. Then there is the whole browser thing. Needs a Chrome extension. I hate Chrome. The extension is its own browser. Every time I punch in the IP address it tries to log in without even touching it. Try the desktop software, can do literally nothing in there pertaining to setting it up (errors out on trying access any settings). Lack of being able to download firmware on the thing and upgrade itself and cameras all from one spot. Had they (my job) consulted me on a system I would have pointed them towards Ubiquiti. In my opinion, they wasted their money by trying to go a little cheaper.
@Equinox2021
@Equinox2021 4 жыл бұрын
Have you had any luck with this? I have a networking company, we specialize in WiFi installations and will install camera solutions as well. We typically use Unifi Protect, I really like the platform and so do my clients, we also will use Hikvision sometimes. One of my clients wanted to go with Amcrest and the setup has been very frustrating. Cameras are displaying on the NVR no problem, but logging in over web browser even with their plugin is very inconsistent. I was able to get the app to work remotely but it too is very inconsistent, not always loading all of the cameras etc. We have plenty of bandwidth at this site so I am not sure what the problem is. I am unfamiliar with Amcrest but have set up many different brands Lorex, Hikvision, Ubiquiti and have never had such a difficult time with such basic things. One thing that confused me is that the POE switch in the NVR is handing out a separate IP range then my router, my router is a 192.168.1.X and the cameras are in the 10.1.1.X range. It's not clear to me how this is happening, the literature calls it a POE switch. I've done all the appropriate port forwarding and still have inconsistent results. I must be missing something.
@timramich
@timramich 4 жыл бұрын
@@Equinox2021 The NVR is its own device, so the addresses of things plugged into it can be whatever it wants them to be. Think of a NAT router. And I had someone else set it all up. Basically, you can only have 1 camera hooked up and performing to its max. Everything had to be turned down to 1080p @ 5fps. That's only with 12 out of the alleged 16 maximum cameras.
@Equinox2021
@Equinox2021 4 жыл бұрын
@@timramich Thanks for the reply, we are likely going to go with a different solution for the NVR.
@icecoldusa
@icecoldusa 5 жыл бұрын
love your videos, I am building my new camera system, and not using ubiquity anymore, and no overpriced NVR, I am using blue Iris, and a poe switch, my question is, does 4k outdoor cameras require more than 100Mbps?
@meerkatattack
@meerkatattack 4 жыл бұрын
Should be running a WD Purple for 24/7, always on Security Systems. While NAS drives are a better deal then a standard HDD due to its increased reliability, it isn't designed for 24/7 read and write that a multichannel DVR requires, and like the Purple is designed to deliver. But unless you use some industrial designed (and very expensive) SSD , I doubt recording and playback of so many cameras can be done smoothly. I wonder if Amcrest shares a parent company with Q-SEE, because I swear the circuit board and UI is identical but for come color changes. However, the Amcrest DVR boxes and cameras are much much cheaper then Q-SEE. I should have done more research. HaHa
@mikebussy3334
@mikebussy3334 4 жыл бұрын
Super duper!
@HugDeeznueces
@HugDeeznueces 5 жыл бұрын
I rather build my own with BlueIris...OEM NVRs give me the yawns...
@plexnbrown760
@plexnbrown760 5 жыл бұрын
I’ll put the duper in your super
@andrewlangley2221
@andrewlangley2221 5 жыл бұрын
ubiquiti doesnt support ONVIF
@davidhenrickson8476
@davidhenrickson8476 5 жыл бұрын
first after first!
@TechySpeaking
@TechySpeaking 5 жыл бұрын
First
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic 5 жыл бұрын
So? Love your timely and helpful commentaries that are always contributive to what makes this channel successful.
@CarMaintenanceGuy
@CarMaintenanceGuy 4 жыл бұрын
Western Digital makes JUNK hard drives. GET RID of it and replace it with another brand! For 20 years these people can't get it right. I've had tons of these drives go bad personally. A company I worked at had hundreds go bad. Another friend of mine who used to install them for various companies had over a dozen go bad.
@NightRunner417
@NightRunner417 4 жыл бұрын
HD ULTRA 8MP / 4K (because you know, sometimes it's happy being 8mpx and sometimes it just has to go rogue and be 4K). Lol I'm choosing my DVR this week and shit like this makes me want to go to an actual store and drag em through the mud intellectually with all their bullshit, purposely confusing and misleading terminology. Pay em back for misleading runaround headache with a nice big fat "problem customer" headache. At this point in our technology, proclaiming 4k in a security camera is kinda like running up to Usain Bolt with a t-shirt that says "I'm As Cool As Usain Bolt". Yes, you're a person. Yes, you might be cool, but bro, there's only one Usain Bolt. Yeah, it's actually 4k, it's got the pixels, but it's for sure not the amazing experience they want you to buy it for. Until tech catches up to the load, anyone looking for 4k should be expecting a huge framerate hit and be willing to accept it and work around it.
@rigomortisfxstudios
@rigomortisfxstudios 5 жыл бұрын
3d movies are dead you can get them where i am they are 50 cents only 4k is fading out bestbuy stopped selling them
@NightRunner417
@NightRunner417 4 жыл бұрын
4K is a video editor's issue... mostly.
@christophermckinzie
@christophermckinzie 5 жыл бұрын
It is much more proper to pronounce ONVIF as on-vif instead of spelling out each letter. Other than that, great videos!
@2007Tubes
@2007Tubes 3 жыл бұрын
On-vif Not o n v i f Just fyi
@weijianbin4017
@weijianbin4017 4 жыл бұрын
So stupid product, Do never buy it!!!!!
@stevewainwright3344
@stevewainwright3344 4 жыл бұрын
I guess he thinks everyone is an expert at this the way he shot through it using initials in places thinking everyone knew what he was talking about. Typical of people who want you to think they're really smart. When in reality they don't have any common sense.
@idefyu23
@idefyu23 5 жыл бұрын
Gotta be honest bro, these security camera videos aren't really my thing.
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic 5 жыл бұрын
Well, then, don't watch them. He's not catering all of his content to your wishes and YOUR WISHES alone ... right?
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