It was ALMOST the Perfect Media Server NAS | UGREEN NASync
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Today on TwoGuyzTech, Logan is going to be taking a quick look at UGREEN's latest NASync series of network attached storage devices. With UGREEN being a newcomer to the space, and making really big promises, we weren't really sure what to expect. There's a lot to unpack here.
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@TwoGuyzTech Ай бұрын
Quick update on the custom OS hardware warranty issue; We got word from UGREEN that they seem to be shifting their stance to continuing hardware warranty support after installing a custom OS, but they still don't want to promote it, and of course they won't be providing support services for a custom OS. Here's the exact statement we got from them; "We can offer the normal hardware warranty, but given that there may be unknown compatibility issues with third-party systems, we need to remind [customers] that flashing the machine is risky. So we prefer consumers to use our UGOS system directly. For the long-term development of the brand, we have invested a lot of R&D costs in the hope that we can run our own operating system. At the same time, as a new NAS manufacturer, our current software experience may not be able to compare to those [other] brands that have been in the industry for more than a decade. We will also continue to optimize and upgrade our system based on consumer feedback and suggestions. We understand that customers want to use a third party system, but we can't officially state that our customers should abandon our system." We see this as a huge win for the community, and it resolves one of the biggest potential problems we saw with the NAS. Let us know what you think!
@xenonlp9189 Ай бұрын
I have heard that others now had problems with Unraid, which simply switches off after more than 60 minutes. Have you also experienced such problems? But all in all it certainly sounds a bit better from Ugreen now 😅 The cleanest way would of course still be to replace the built-in OS SSD, but then unfortunately you have to remove the warranty sticker. But that would make it go out again, wouldn't it?
@thefoxhouse Ай бұрын
@@xenonlp9189I’m pretty sure he addressed that in the video. He said the watchdog timer in the bios needs to be disabled
@xenonlp9189 Ай бұрын
@@thefoxhouse Under the newest Video he answered me: "I disabled the watchdog, used a completely new drive for the OS (and in the case of UnRAID, ran off the USB on one occasion with no disks, and on another with 3 disks). And on both occasions, the system rebooted after a few minutes. Still investigating the causes, as I need to eliminate some potential causes my side [...] but haven't had the time yet between other projects to explore yet." ... It doesn't seem so
@augustuspollock3676 2 ай бұрын
I keep seeing ads for UGREEN, so I’m glad someone I trust was able to get a copy and review it! Thanks for the information, hopefully they can get their software figured out in future.
@TwoGuyzTech 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Glad it was helpful! We hope so too. It's not far from being a really capable unit right out of the box.
@pilsplease7561 2 ай бұрын
I was supposed to get one to test then they backed out last minute
@artvram 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for showing the kernel and BIOS. Rare to see in a video like this, but super useful.
@TwoGuyzTech 2 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching!
@SierraGolfNiner 2 ай бұрын
If I could install TrueNas Scale on that…I’d be 100% in.
@nikola_korneta 2 ай бұрын
You can
@marcopaolini3478 2 ай бұрын
JFYI, if you install a different OS you'll loose UGREEN warranty (source: a recent interview with UGREEN UK rep. on another YT NAS channel).
@utooboobnoob 2 ай бұрын
Not sure how valuable that warranty actually is
@marcopaolini3478 2 ай бұрын
@@utooboobnoobAgree, but as a user, I prefer to make an informed decision.
@liquicitizendirk2147 2 ай бұрын
The disclaimer from the Uk rep. sounded more like:"We don't wanna fix problems you have due to flashing an different OS". Feels like it should be fine if UGREEN provides an image that you can install once something goes wrong.
@msaraiva 2 ай бұрын
There is conflicting information floating around (including from official Ugreen sources). Also, that's not enforceable in countries with strong consumer protection laws.
@K4sk4d3 2 ай бұрын
They don’t want the CCP mandated back door removed from the kernel? Gasp!
@andymok7945 2 ай бұрын
I really like the design of the unit. Easy access for RAM and M.2. Being able to install TrueNAS or such is also a great benfit.
@ctrlaltdelete08157 2 ай бұрын
Thunderbolt 4 is available at 6 Bay Models and above.
@chrisumali9841 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the demo and info, have a great day
@MADBONE0 2 ай бұрын
ABOUT TIME … thank goodness 😅 SLAPS TRUENAS on it Let’s Go
@geofreypejsa54 2 ай бұрын
Good review; glad you pointed out the deficiencies regarding the software. As you noted, these pieces make it tough to go to it now, but hopefully they update and get it right software wise
@timothyvandyke9511 2 ай бұрын
That looks like the PERFECT hardware for a tiny nas. I'm drooling and want to add unraid to that so bad
@christopherjames9843 Ай бұрын
Really good looking unit.
@Vedeyn 2 ай бұрын
I would love to see a more in-depth video regarding the installation and use of another OS. Im debating getting one of these with the intention of installing Proxmox on it.
@Vatharian 2 ай бұрын
Ugreen makes a lot of stuff like laptop holders, and lots of small electronics, and all of that stuff is really high quality.
@johnwoods1161 2 ай бұрын
Keep up the amazing work. This is my favorite tech channel 😌
@jamesbailey9512 2 ай бұрын
I wouldn't trust a custom kernel from a Chinese mainland company. Which is a shame as the the hardware looks great.
@globetrotterdk 2 ай бұрын
Also note that they state on their website that all arbitration is to be done in Hong Kong courts.
@MangosVinylCuts Ай бұрын
Unlock bootloader... install whatever you want.
@Hummtaro 2 ай бұрын
Huge thanks for making clear the boot and efi situation! After i finally clicked on their ad and was impressed by the hardware specs for this price, i reached out to both the community and ugreen themself to ask if i coould install another operating system. Ugreen only aswered, that this is not supported and i will loose warranty, while the folks in the community only said, that all could be done with tinkering and fiddling since we have root access..
@RespectedDesperado 2 ай бұрын
Yes you can install another OS. I've seen a youtuber do it with a test unit. You just loose your warranty
@xellaz Ай бұрын
And you also loose their phone app access.
@draginator6 Ай бұрын
@@xellaz Well that part makes sense since you are removing the software that makes it work.
@Hummtaro Ай бұрын
@@xellaz Of course! Would be horrible otherwise!
@philosoaper 2 ай бұрын
the stagnation is why I decided last year to ditch "nas boxes" and build my own nas with truenas scale on it
@NerijusUza Ай бұрын
Nice review, thanks. Could you do a part 2, going more in-depth running third party OS? Both Truenas and Unraid. Specifically, stability and performance (transfers speeds) running it. Thanks.
@alonzosmith6189 2 ай бұрын
The hardware specs looks great.
@marcogenovesi8570 2 ай бұрын
One possible explanation for the custom kernel is for btrfs support and especially btrfs raid5 support. Yes Debian has btrfs support too, but they might have backported more features/fixes on their own kernel since btrfs raid5 is a moving target and not officially "stable"
@TheOnlineCorner 2 ай бұрын
They shouldnt even bother creating their own OS. They should highly promote the compatibility and choice of TrueNAS and unRAID into these machines. The hardware looks amazing and the whole idea if it would support the mentioned OS is amazing, but they missed not supporting ECC RAM which would have been the cherry on the top.
@TwoGuyzTech 2 ай бұрын
It's a double edged sword. When good solutions are already available, it's hard to justify reinventing the wheel unless you can bring something new to the table. I am optimistic though, seeing as they have a good base, hopefully UGREEN can bring those essential features to the platform because it would make the NAS extremely convenient. Ultimately consumers want choice to use the hardware in a way that they see most fit. Thanks for watching!
@ragingbombast 2 ай бұрын
None of the CPUs they are using support ECC, as per Intel documentation. I'd have to checked, but I'm pretty sure all the modern choices for ECC either a) are AMD, and thus incompatible with several media services' hardware transcoding processes, or b) are expensive small scale Xeons. As for trying to sell these as boxes for enthusiast grade operating systems... most people who buy these small boxes are looking for things that "just works." Its why Synology is still king in the space even though they make such awful hardware choices - The software is fantastic for novices or people who just don't care. Most people I know who get into TrueNAS and unRAID would build their own boxes no matter what.
@m0x34riou 2 ай бұрын
I can understand them creating their own os to market to people who just want a plug and play NAS and don't want to fiddle around with TrueNAS or something else. And the similar look to Synology is probably with the intention to get people to switch. What bothers me is their adamant standing about voiding your warranty should you install another OS. In my opinion they should lean more into the enthusiast market and make it even easier for users to switch the OS. If they would have gone that route, it would have been an immediate buy from me, followed by immediately installing TrueNAS on it 😉
@jaylord55 2 ай бұрын
this is super cool my first thought of this was for the price i could 3d print an extension to the bottom of the case and add some more 3.5in drive bays or even some 2.5in bays and throw truenas or proxmox on this thing. Atlest the software is not completely locked down like some other brands
@whiteb0rd 2 ай бұрын
I would love to see a review if this guy's big brother, the 6bay unit, maxed on ram, additional optional SSDs, and TruNAS Scale taking advantage of all of it.
@malifestro3319 Ай бұрын
Thanks for touching on the UEFI boot portion of your video. Did you test unraid on it after you did that? Will it stay online and reboot right back into Unraid with no problems? Unraid boots off a USB stick, not a nvme drive.
@__Ben 2 ай бұрын
For another way to access the BIOS without having to deliberately break the EFI partition could you attempt running "sudo systemctl reboot --firmware-setup" This should work as a way to reboot the system straight to BIOS.
@TwoGuyzTech 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Didn't know about that!
@__Ben 2 ай бұрын
@@TwoGuyzTechI don't know if that will work on these systems, but it should do. That said with the higher end ones i'd just open it and replace the SSD anyway. Look like brilliant hardware, just rough software wise for now.
@RogerioPereiradaSilva77 2 ай бұрын
@@__Ben I think that only works on systems that use systemd-boot as the bootloader, no? Don't think it would work on a system that boots from grub or does it?
@__Ben 2 ай бұрын
@@RogerioPereiradaSilva77 Still works on some systems I have that use grub, so it should be fine. Could possibly add a grub entry to fwsetup too somehow
@Techning Ай бұрын
Great review! I'm also planning to buy one of these NAS systems. Do you have any information on compatibility with MacOS Time Machine Backups?
@BobHannent 2 ай бұрын
It was interesting when i saw it being advertised, but they're kickstarter is only selling to USA and Germany.
@Pr3mium2 2 ай бұрын
Can u add power consumption numbers? For like idle avg min max. With or without hdds. Thanks.
@garyhobson8583 2 ай бұрын
other reviews are showing 60W idle
@neolordie Ай бұрын
@garyhobson8583 with the 4 hdd ?
@nurgledave 2 ай бұрын
Sucks the KS is only shipping to US and Germany, us UK lot can't get the 40% discount
@greggv8 2 ай бұрын
Since it's running Debian it should be able to run Open Media Vault, which brings along with it Docker support and a bunch of other things. But since it has DLNA out of the box there's no need to add anything if you're just using it to store media and your Smart TV and other devices have DLNA support. They just need to have native support for the codecs the files are encoded with.
@IDDCars 2 ай бұрын
Im gettin one. Thnx
@VirtualCoding Ай бұрын
Does the HDMI Port work with a custom OS installed? Or do you perhaps require the custom kernel code for it?
@ShaneWoods-ei9co Ай бұрын
THE LOGAN TRAIN NEVER STOPS
@nospamallowed4890 2 ай бұрын
The problem with the NAS market is that they are proprietary and linked to hardware. After a few years they discontinue it and if something breaks you are left hanging. My definition of a perfect NAS: - Generic low power PC hardware, with no hardware RAID. This is where NAS hardware manufacturers should compete. - An open source implementation of the NAS, with software-based RAID and the ability to sync/mirror with a 2nd instance on another hardware instance. Possibly based on Linux and simple installation. - Ability to easily add a drive (new or from another NAS instance), be asked whether to absorb the data from that drive into the NAS set or to format it and add it as a new blank drive.
@joer9276 2 ай бұрын
I’d be on this in a sec with a hybrid raid option!
@TieFly Ай бұрын
After watching this I’m considering 4800 Plus, but now that I’m on the website the DXP480T Plus is catching my eye. Any opinions on the all-flash for primarily movie streaming?
@llamaSHORTS1 Ай бұрын
Can you test the power draw with TrueNAS or any other OS?
@a9udn9u-vanced 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review! I'm looking to get this exact model. OS is my main concern and you confirmed it. I heard that UGREEN will push a major update before the official release, hopefully it will bring more features. Did you break the NDA by releaing an early review? I can't find any other reviews but yours.
@TwoGuyzTech 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! We also hope that UGREEN will be able to deliver on their promises. It sounds like a lot of new features will be coming soon that would improve the software experience a lot. Although UGREEN did send us this NAS for review, they never asked us to sign an NDA nor subjected us to any other editorial oversight. We only became aware that some folks were held to an NDA after the release of our review. Hopefully this helps to put some of this into perspective.
@a9udn9u-vanced 2 ай бұрын
@@TwoGuyzTech Thanks for clarifying
@sinisterpisces 2 ай бұрын
Great review. Thanks for the deeper dive on the Linux kernel (I don't understand why they're using a custom kernel at all) and the third party OS/UEFI stuff (not bizarre if you assume it's primarily to lock users into their OS, but aggravating). It's disappointing to see such great hardware paired with the software you've experienced. It's actually a bit concerning that they sent it out to you in this state. NASCompares has Q and A with one of the Ugreen product leads, and ... he was a lot vaguer on the hardware specs than you were. He didn't give details on some things that you were able to look at just by using lspci. One thing he did say that really turned me off was that installing a third party OS apparently *voids the hardware warranty*. I'd understand it being completely unsupported, but voiding the entire warranty seems extreme, especially as the software is still so ... young. If you're able to talk to Ugreen's product rep(s), could you ask them to clarify whether installing a third party OS is just unsupported, or whether it actually voids the hardware warranty?
@TwoGuyzTech 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching & we're glad the video was helpful! Unfortunately, as we've come to understand from the digging we've done, the operating system warranty issue seems to be something that UGREEN is pretty stiff about. The German website also verbosely states that (translated) "We do not recommend this type of intervention. If you still insist on it, you will permanently lose your warranty". We haven't had contact with the gentleman from UGREEN that was in the Q and A session - the individual we've been working with is part of UGREEN's team in China - so we may contact them for further clarification. Will keep you posted.
@cardboardpig 2 ай бұрын
I like the hardware and that you can replace the OS - I have my own self built server that's a bit long in the tooth that I would like to replace with something like this.
@RTX1070 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your review. Is it possible to connect another computer directly to this nas via cable to open the disks?
@Linealo 2 ай бұрын
Does it supports a direct link via the second LAN? 2.5G to network is enough for me, but the 10G to 10G on my computer would be great for direct access when i.e. editing directly off from it. The missing TB4 on this specific model would be the make or break if it comes to this use case, if a direct LAN connection doesn't work.
@slow_Jo 2 ай бұрын
i'm looking for an easy to use backup solution for ios and android, and other digital media. what would you recommend? Truenas? Synology? Qnap?
@mpxz999 2 ай бұрын
I like the size of the cooling fan
@haroldostenger5160 Ай бұрын
do you think this can be a line of defense, in the case of a ransomware attack in an office LAN ?
@florentin... Ай бұрын
Maybe this question has been asked before, but is there a video/tutorial showing how to install a different OS on this hardware? Thanks!
@DrawdeThePotato 2 ай бұрын
Can you attach a eGPU... Just because i want to see what it will do if you make a VM with the attached eGPU.
@tannermorris8956 2 ай бұрын
I’m looking to get a NAS but want to find a NAS that is somewhat affordable but can run multiple 4K videos. I would also like to find what NAS would work best with transcoding videos even if they’re elsewhere than the main network. I heard really good things about the new terramaster f4 424 pro that it’s good all the way around, just when I had looked, it was not available yet (US). Any other suggestions or cheaper suggestions? Mainly would want jellyfin server with a spot for storing files.
@greggould4275 Ай бұрын
Just saw this, and will watch other reviews. Just a question in case you may know.. I live in the US, so I know this NAS IS available to m )others have said only US / DE). I have a QANP Nas I LOVE and use it for work. I am looking for a surveillance system for my home. Many standalone camera systems are great, but, interfaces can be wonky, and they don't NEARLY have the processing / memory of something like an actual NAS. I just don't want to burden my QNAP with wired camera streams, and so I was looking for a 2-Bay NAS to basically use as a Surveillance system. Do you know if this NAS handles ONVIF cameras I can use, or how the Surveillance app is? Have you looked at that aspect of the software? Seems like it has great processing power to be a dedicated surveillance system ONLY (which is what I am looking for) - many standalone systems have bragged they can handle multiple (like 6) 4k streams, and yet, actual reviews are mixed when tried. That's why I thought about just buying and dedicating a NAS ONLY for that purpose, and this sounds like it COULD be the one. What would you say?
@kiaser21 Ай бұрын
@TwoGuyzTech Can you show us all the BIOS menus? I"m wondering if this board supports or has a BIOS option to bifurcate that 1st M.2 slot used for the boot SSD, you could adapter it out to dual M.2 SSDs in a mirror.
@TwoGuyzTech Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! The BIOS setup is really basic, unfortunately no options to bifurcate any of the M.2 slots. You don't really get anything past fan curve adjustment and enabling/disabling Turbo Boost. You could mirror the boot SSD to another one of the M.2 slots that would otherwise be used for a cache drive but if you want more cache or more NVMe storage then it's definitely not ideal. Hope this helps.
@markarca6360 2 ай бұрын
I guess they got the idea from Synology DSM. If I get the same unit, I will install CasaOS, which is also based in Debian.
@shilezi 2 ай бұрын
do you have steps on how to install a new os on it? good review btw
@sidbratkovich Ай бұрын
What I think is strange is the popup box that says the hard drives are not on the compatibility list and that you could lose data. Strange because UGREEN supplied those drives, and that WD Red drives are not on their compatibility list.
@kiaser21 Ай бұрын
Nearly perfect, just needs a few changes: Some sort of iKVM/IPMI remote control, a way to mirror the boot drive (maybe the SSD boot drive can bifurcate?), and change that SATA backplane to a tri-support of SATA/SAS/NVMe.
@LordSaliss Ай бұрын
Can the USB type C port on the front plug into a Mac or PC and make the drives be seen as a removable drive? If so then I can use BackBlaze to do a cloud backup of this NAS.
Ай бұрын
So to use plex server you need to install another OS, right? Also using plex for playback via the HDMI requires another OS, right?
@th3r3v92 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the informative video. I just wonder, if you replace the built-in SSD with a different one, I doubt that anyone can tell that you used a different OS.
@TwoGuyzTech 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Yes, in theory you could do this, but the disassembly of the NAS is rather difficult and we had to break a "warranty void if removed" sticker to gain access to the internal SSD. The best approach might be to image the SSD to another external drive and then install your operating system, so you could re-image the original data back on if needed.
@th3r3v92 2 ай бұрын
Oh, I see, you are absolutely right then. With the sticker in mind, then imaging the drive is probably the best solution (especially since it is just a 128 GB SSD). Thank you for the extra info. Originally, I was looking at the TerraMaster F4-424 Pro (after what happened to Storaxa...), but it looks like I'm going to be a Ugreen NAS owner "soon". The hardware is just too good to skip. Especially considering the PCI layout is also decent (thx for showing the lspci output), it will make a hella good Proxmox/TrueNAS box.
@AndrewyRi 2 ай бұрын
@@TwoGuyzTech Can we just boot from USB Stick ? I Plan to use Unraid
@theskuffedknerd Ай бұрын
Hmm, I was able to stop it from booting into the built-in EFI and will boot from a USB for Unraid, but I am still unable to actually get into the BIOS settings. I've tried every key I can think of that would normally pop the BIOS menu. Any ideas?
@frankwong9486 2 ай бұрын
Hardware looks nice , but I pay hardware + software (even I don’t need the software part) and still no go for 3rdparty OS which broke whole warranty (they even void hardware warranty) . Their software/features is mostly not sure / in develop , if you trying sell a turkey solution with strict UgreenOS policy , at least make something work out of the box ,right ? No go until they have clean statement about 3rd party OS /hardware warranty and timetable of supported feature list
@msaraiva 2 ай бұрын
In the higher end models, the OS is installed on a built-in NVME. Replace it and install the OS on a new one. If you need warranty, put the original NVME back.
@frankwong9486 2 ай бұрын
@@msaraiva I remember see that part that you need to broke their "warranty sticker" to access that system drive Not sure if the sticker is legal in the EU but I am sure the company will try everything to decline your support Like how they describe the 3rd party OS policy in a another video -is because they don't want to get into a rabbit hole where people raise support tickets for something on the 3rd software part Yep you reading right , one of the reasons for it is : we don't want to do the support job or try to reject support ticket not related to us. Mate you are the first line of contact for user support ,if the issue is something from 3rd party then gently told user what happened and suggest them contact the correct party When your company is selling a turkey solution to the end user, don't expect the end user know everything ,and expected will get odd support ticket from end user if they know everything they don't need to buy your turkey product . Funny thing is the turkey nas solution they try to sell got lots of thing can't promise ,no time table, not that "work out of the box" LMAO
@marcogenovesi8570 2 ай бұрын
@@frankwong9486 EU warranty is provided by the EU seller and the stickers are irrelevant. If you buy from overseas there is no EU warranty besides what the manufacturer decides to provide
@evilutionltd 2 ай бұрын
I wonder if the RAID will be good on it (and actually work on a Mac).
@Hummtaro 2 ай бұрын
Could you maybe install a few different operating systems and test if everything works fine? Like Windows and TrueNas. Since they use a custom kernel, it could be that they did some odd stuff, like it's often the case with embedded hardware.. Theoretically even Windows should run. Would be nice if we could also use the internal 128GB SSD for 3th party operating systems.
@TwoGuyzTech 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I have tested other Linux distros and they work perfectly on the hardware, so I don't have any reason to believe that Windows and TrueNAS wouldn't work great either. I may visit this topic in a future video. You can use the internal 128GB SSD for other operating systems, but I'm not sure if there's any way to source the original OS again if you want to restore the unit to its original condition, so keep this in mind as well.
@saotekwong3276 2 ай бұрын
Just what are those leading zero on the bays for?
@shirke01 Ай бұрын
I Just place in order DXP2800 perfect for my need.
@nathancoy8066 2 ай бұрын
Gonna be the TikTok of NAS.
@danielwright4307 2 ай бұрын
How’s the Mac compatibility? I currently have a pi running OpenMediaVault attached to a sabrent enclosure and I’m getting a ton of issues with copying files to the drives. From what I can see it’s a macOS and SMB compatibility issue.
@TwoGuyzTech 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! We don't have a modern Mac to test with right now but it behaved perfectly fine being read and written to both from Windows and Linux. I suspect it's running Debian's standard Samba package for hosting SMB.
@Leo-tf7gu Ай бұрын
I am looking for a 6 bay NAS which will let me add an existing HDD with data without formatting and possibly run Windows 11.
@ziyanide 2 ай бұрын
Do you have any information on the eMMC of the DXP2800/4800? I was wondering if it was soldered on or if it was replacable and if one could also put a different OS on there
@felkmane 2 ай бұрын
I watched another video on these, from 'aChair leg', who did a full teardown and installed a different OS. It isn't easy, but is possible and seemed to work well.
@tld8102 2 ай бұрын
wait can you use the 4k hdmi 2.1 port to stream games?
@Playerz714 2 ай бұрын
This needs more years of development on the software
@t1ll1s Ай бұрын
will this trick with renaming the EFI folder work for the eMMC (soldered) N100 versions as well?
@TwoGuyzTech Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! To be truthful, we're not sure, since we don't have an eMMC unit to test, but we would imagine the process would be almost identical, save for the name of the device being different. I'm covering this topic in more detail in a video releasing on our channel this morning. Hope it helps.
@PitFighter2007 Ай бұрын
will wait for price to drop thanks
@blackshadow323 2 ай бұрын
Can you please let me know the dimensions. Depth and height are important to me. I only have 16.5 cm of height space left in my small rack. Thank you :)
@CrazyPr0ducti0ns 2 ай бұрын
Do you feel that jellyfin/plex would be able to run on the none plus variant?
@FishamaticianDX2-66 2 ай бұрын
Personally I bought a Dell wyse 5070 to run proxmox and jellyfin on and use a nas just for storage, that way failure of one won't impact the other.
@tankspl7 Ай бұрын
Ill hold off judgement until I see a video of TrueNAS Scale installation video with full hardware functionality.
@worldgate989 2 ай бұрын
I wouldn't mind the 8bay but im kinda broke after investing in an 85 inch tv.
@BurkeJones 2 ай бұрын
I'll never back another Chinese company on Kickstarter. Storaxa ruined it. Plus a custom kernel for literally no reason is suspicious as hell. I won't even buy Synology anymore because of their closed ecosystem and draconian practices on their enterprise products. I have no trust anymore. I'd be interested to see someone wireshark this thing for a few weeks and see what all telemetry is being sent and where.
@KoolAidManOG 2 ай бұрын
I really want one but it is a no-buy without Plex support or word on whether or not it will happen.
@RogerioPereiradaSilva77 2 ай бұрын
Well, it seems to have some crude support for Docker so one can still install the Plex docker manually and go from there, I think.
@roelsiebens9090 2 ай бұрын
Just a small detail in the Kickstarter: "Please note that The UGREEN NASync Series Kickstarter campaign currently only supports shipping to addresses in the United States and Germany."
@stevevlahos5469 2 ай бұрын
Seems worth it to get it for the hardware and run truenas.
@foobarrel9046 2 ай бұрын
Yep, that's my plan. A Jonsbo N1 case = $150, decent PSU = $80 and Topton N6005 ITX mobo $180, total = $430, so one can consider the RAM, SSD, 10GbE card and CPU upgrade as essentially having been thrown in for free here.
@naturprodukteessens9865 Ай бұрын
Hi, I have a question. Does this product even exist? This Ugreen Nasync DXp4800 Plus. It's not available on their website. Where did you buy it?
@TwoGuyzTech Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! We did not buy it but UGREEN sent it to us for review as it is a prerelease unit. As mentioned in the video, this is currently being crowdfunded on Kickstarter, and I left a link to their campaign in the description.
@Rux82 2 ай бұрын
Hey, anyone got any experience with the Simplecom SE482?
@RAM_845 2 ай бұрын
I'm running the Qnap TS-233 2x 4tb Seagate drives 8tb RAID 0 as I use it for movies/music and TV...I wonder if that ugreen NAS will be an upgrade...if so should I get a new NAS how do I copy the files over from one NAS to another?
@testplmnb 2 ай бұрын
i would use nas as a file redundancy backup
@RAM_845 2 ай бұрын
@@testplmnb Back in the day I used to store my movies and TV series on a 2nd drive on my PC. But now I prefer them on a local server. I'd love to own a NAS with more flexibility than what Ugreen is going to provide .
@darkpenguin1978 2 ай бұрын
Vidéo surveillance app does this available
@sjn8768 2 ай бұрын
Good job on the review. That Chinese kernel is a no go for me. I’ll wait for something else at this point.
@msaraiva 2 ай бұрын
Rip and replace.
@laborspy 2 ай бұрын
There is cutting edge and bleeding edge. I'll let everyone work out the kinks and I'll check back in around 1yr from now.
@jeremyzeeky3024 2 ай бұрын
I'd be curious for a performance test of Plex on this
@skyler2020 2 ай бұрын
No native Plex support according to Ugreen. Have to use Docker, which I don't want to do. I expected easy installation like Synology
@fixitfixitfixit 2 ай бұрын
I'm a beta tester, I've ran my own tests and plex works well in terms of performance, Had to jump through hoops to get hardware transcoding working though as many of the drivers needed for that were not installed. That was a native install via SSH. They did mention that they are looking into making some kind of official package. I don't know for sure if that will happen though or will they just tell users to use docker if they want plex. Gotta wait and see on that front.
@fixitfixitfixit 2 ай бұрын
I can't say much more than that due to us beta testers being under an NDA. I will 100% agree with TwoGuys though the hardware is really solid.
@skyler2020 2 ай бұрын
@@fixitfixitfixit I would really like a native package that doesn't require a bunch of hoops to make work. I understand that there are technical people who can install Linux on anything and make things work, but I'm here to use it as a "non technical" user. Another person said it best, this is advertised as a "Turnkey solution", but you still have to manually do things to make things like Plex work.
@KoolAidManOG 2 ай бұрын
@@fixitfixitfixit Did the Plex developers say if they were making an official package or did this come from UGreen? Thank you in advance!
@RayDusso 2 ай бұрын
Sorry but having to go through a Chinese server to circle back to my network connected NAS is a big red flag for security.
@captainsubtext Ай бұрын
It uses Amazon cloud … no one cares about u except the cia.
@nooby1.0 Ай бұрын
Man, too bad they aren't shipping to the Netherlands. I could send it to Germany, but that would be a hassle.
@zMeul 2 ай бұрын
custom kernel, 🚩
@SSJ0016 2 ай бұрын
Are you locked into their software or can you run truenas on it? That would be a huge plus for this!
@NoEgg4u 2 ай бұрын
@4:27 -- Having to go to the company's web site, in order to activate or configure or enable your purchase to function properly, is a red flag. If some remote web site can run admin processes on the hardware in your home (or your office), then you are granting access to complete strangers. And what if UGREEN goes belly-up? Well, where does that leave you with your hardware? What's next? Buy a new refrigerator, and to to the company's web site to set the temperature? It sounds like that UGREEN NAS is a mini or small form factor PC, housed in a case that has four bays for drives. You can probably install Windows on it, and use it like any other PC (albeit with Pentium CPU performance).
@TwoGuyzTech 2 ай бұрын
While I do agree with this 100% I think I should have made it clearer in the video that the "find UGNas" site only searches for the NAS on your local network. The actual web interface that it directs you to is hosted on the NAS itself and doesn't have any reliance on the Internet (unless you link a UGREEN account which is optional for now) but it still can absolutely receive commands from the internet and we don't know how well UGOS is written as far as security goes. You can absolutely install another OS as well and we think it's an optimal use case. I showed a little trick to get access to the UEFI BIOS towards the end of the video. Hope this clarifies things just a bit, thanks for watching!
@NoEgg4u 2 ай бұрын
@@TwoGuyzTech Thank you.
@XxMissingDataxX Ай бұрын
How much is this ?
@jimchen319 2 ай бұрын
If you can install Synology on it , I would get it
@michaeloleary6012 2 ай бұрын
How would you run JellyFin on one of these? Would you need to install a different os?
@RogerioPereiradaSilva77 2 ай бұрын
Well, it seems to have some crude support for Docker so one can still install the Jellyfin docker manually and go from there, I think.
@michaeloleary6012 2 ай бұрын
@@RogerioPereiradaSilva77 do you think it would work to install windows on this?
@RogerioPereiradaSilva77 2 ай бұрын
@@michaeloleary6012 It probably would work since this seems to be a bog standard PC from the looks of it but then the real question would be: WHY?
@michaeloleary6012 2 ай бұрын
@@RogerioPereiradaSilva77 not that familiar with running Linux. I could figure it out though. I want to get a jellyfin server going. I know there’s cheaper ways to do it, but I’m more confident on windows
@RogerioPereiradaSilva77 2 ай бұрын
@@michaeloleary6012 Understood. It would probably be easier doing it with a custom tailored Linux-like OS made to run on a NAS such as TrueNAS, UnRAID or even OpenMediaVault than Windows, though. I mean, Docker does run on Windows but not nearly as well as on UNIX-like OSes and it requires jumping through some hoops. Plus you would need to know how to setup RAID on Windows to make it useful on a NAS which does require some know-how. Windows really is a poor fit for this use case and one that I strongly advise against if you don't understand the basics here. If you know how to write an image to a flash drive and then use it to boot a machine to install an OS, then you're already half way there. Everything else can be done with easy to use web UIs and there are thousands of tutorials out there that explain how to do anything with your NAS.
@undergod1987 2 ай бұрын
I don't trust it but shoot it's awesome If you swap the OS.
@richiewoodward6301 21 күн бұрын
Can you make a vpn using this?
@ericseidel4940 Ай бұрын
YOU make the developpment with UGREEN, I have a M2 USB reader unable to recognise proper SSDs.
@heckyes 2 ай бұрын
No SHR, no deal.
@DavidChiluk 2 ай бұрын
Do they support ZFS? How hard is it to install other OS's?
@cardboardpig 2 ай бұрын
I think they _might_ support ZFS based on their documentation and the dropdown menu where you can select btrfs - shame the reviewer didn't click the dropdown in the video...
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