The New Warhammer 40k Starter Box... Surprisingly Good?

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The New Warhammer 40k Starter Box... Surprisingly Good?

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@theodoreroosevelt3143 8 ай бұрын

it could be great if there was "big ass starter box" Ultimate starter box + Introductory box and two brushes you can unbox it, paint with your friend, learn and play together, everything in a single box

@toferkrz946 4 ай бұрын

They did that for the Soul Wars starter set for AoS 2e. There was a regular version and one bundled with a hobby set. The bundle was even available at third party retail. The fact that they have not done a similar bundle for any subsequent starter product likely indicates that it didn't sell very well compared to the regular Soul Wars starter box.

@deformiertergolfball4847 2 ай бұрын

indomitus box was this for me. i think it was a great value. paid round about 130€ for it.

@blastingsound Ай бұрын

GWS: "THAT'S A GREAT IDEA! AND WE'LL COMBINE THE PRICES!!"

@Therealblacktux Жыл бұрын

love these Australian release times, i can actually watch things from this channel as they release! go my fellow Australians!

@B1-997 Жыл бұрын

and we get the prices for aus too, 150 for the starter set is less than i expected which is good.

@Ultrama-ri7pz Жыл бұрын

haha I already bought it! XD but I used up all my money thooo

@B1-997 Жыл бұрын

@@Ultrama-ri7pz imma buy a copy in the next month or two, busy with getting ready to move atm. The box art on the starter set looks so good imo.

@paddya3304 Жыл бұрын

A hearty well done to whoever made the 'what's in the box' jingle. Pure genius!

@-Seek-17 Жыл бұрын

me and my two friends recently got into the hobby earlier today! my friends shared the first intrudoctory box as one of them wants the tyranids and the other wants the space marines and i bought a small tau package!

@barrymarchetto245 10 ай бұрын

Tau is my favorite, but its underloved by gw. For the greater good!

@-Seek-17 10 ай бұрын

@@barrymarchetto245 For the greater good!

@robouteguilliman7628 9 ай бұрын

All 3 of these people have been seen by Inquisition

@-Seek-17 9 ай бұрын

@@robouteguilliman7628 oh god no

@TyranidkingWill 4 ай бұрын

@@-Seek-17 I love tau aswell hence the name For the greater good!

@noosebrother Жыл бұрын

I like the leviathan box. It will sit on my desk pride of place untill i finally get around to paint it😂

@sundarworldTV Жыл бұрын

Same, soon as I get to Dark Imperium and Indomitus i'll get stuck right into Leviathan!

@TheWhiteLycan 11 ай бұрын

Buying the most expensive starter set is basically substituting more character models (alot more) for some terrain. Personally I don't see this as a win. Leviathan is better for new starters who want to grow an army.

@bigshimsham 9 ай бұрын

Those marines are amazingly done, great job. Also love the colour scheme on the nids.

@lekarabbit5181 Жыл бұрын

I think the middle box is more valuable than the big started box the gw terian may be expensive but that doesn't make it good value sense generic sci Fi bunker or ruins are easy to get but it's still nice for new players

@Cremefreeeesh Жыл бұрын

Super boring imo, but using existing terrain probably alleviates supply chain issues

@lekarabbit5181 Жыл бұрын

@@zeroclutterartanddesign9637 yeah definitely a good choice for new players just not valuable after that

@g_y.rtz420 6 ай бұрын

Oh wow, outsider here hoping to get into 40k when life gets better, and although i knew its expensive and i knew gw has been raising prices recently, actually seeing the prices of these starter kits for the first time almost made me cry. I guess ill never actually be able to get into it and now im actually sad, like my heart actually broke seeing these prices. 😢

@freakygoblin3068 11 ай бұрын

Thought the Starter Set section was misleading showing painted figures. Remember we are talking about potential newbies who are looking at getting their first figures and trying the game. Also I would certainly guess the painted figures are not using paints limited to that provided in the basic set. I appreciate wanting to show your well painted figures off but is this really the place? Not trying to be disheartening, hopefully this comment is seen as constructive.

@sittingbull607 4 ай бұрын

Ma fille de 10ans préfère peintre que de jouer. Mais c'est indiqué partout figurine non monté non peinte. Ça peut justement motivé de voir les autres et de belle peinture

@CMTechnica 11 күн бұрын

You don’t need to paint them. And it’s literally plasters everywhere on the box: painting and assembly required

@seth.willis. Жыл бұрын

It isn't difficult to get the Leviathan box for the same price as the ultimate starter box. I did it just a week or two ago, and it feels like a way better deal at the same price (200usd)

@SpoonyBard88 Жыл бұрын

Leviathan probably is not going to get a second printing, while these will be on store shelves until the next edition.

@reachlol1 Жыл бұрын

Leviathan isn't getting a second print. So you'll only find them after this year second hand.

@connorbaz5980 11 ай бұрын

@@reachlol1 damn, better get one ASAP then. How much longer will they be in production this year?

@CatDribble Жыл бұрын

Ummm can't say this is the best starter box they've ever made, I like the orc and space marines one they did years ago

@coldtruth9431 6 ай бұрын

5:38 somebody get my guy a larger shirt 😭 bro getting squeezed out here

@taxman3749 Жыл бұрын

This is why it's so handy to download the PDF. of the Leviathan book to a tablet and trim it to the rules pages.

@darkaiel Жыл бұрын

Is that different than the free core rules pdf?

@taxman3749 Жыл бұрын

@@darkaiel I don't think so.

@michaelmaddox2536 Жыл бұрын

If they added a chaplin in term armor instead of a captain, they would have gotten everyone.

@catcadev Жыл бұрын

My brother in the Emperor. What on earth. If you said "Librarian" I would have gotten it. If you said "Apothecary", I'd have gone "yeah sure, but the theming of the apothecary is a bit nicer". But the Captain? You *need* a Captain. The Terminators are returning bro, how would they not have a Captain. You NEED a Captain. Anyways, I left a dislike on your comment

@michaelmaddox2536 Жыл бұрын

@catcadev ok but I said it because the leviathan box just came with both an Librarian and an Captain In term armor. This next box would have made so many new collectors terminator army feel complete.

@tomekk.1889 Ай бұрын

@@catcadevderanged

@jacksondutton420 Жыл бұрын

Been waiting for this one Dave! Great value for money analysis!

@jdliefting8926 Жыл бұрын

I've got the middle starter set last week. This box is perfect for me because i already started the hobby and purchased all the tools, paints and 1 box of intercessors as a starting point months ago. Now that i want to start playing with an actual army, the middle starter set gives me a terminator squad, a captain and an infernus squad. I've paid 55 euros for the box at my local 3rd party retailer since it was on sale and i also had some points from my previous purchases for extra discount. So for someone like me this box is perfect to give some structure to my army which i can finetune with separate purchases in the future.

@pamelawalsh8153 Жыл бұрын

Back when my daughter was little, she wanted some sisters mini's.... she wanted pink, purple and gold with a tiger stripe theme..... don't know where they ended up as it was almost 20 years ago.... maybe I need to get back into painting mini's

@catcadev Жыл бұрын

Go for it! It's a boatload of fun. If you don't want a lot of stuff start with the Introductory set. You can add in the biggest one after, the two sets of five Infernus Marines will slot right in, and having lots of Termagaunts is a must, I've heard.

@satire__ Жыл бұрын

what i got from this: More space bears & Hive Fleet Jotunn

@Paint_Quest Жыл бұрын

Include the good old Euro as well ... please 😅

@wuyangteioh7374 Жыл бұрын

Day 3 of asking for murray mondays

@kikolokopo_toys Жыл бұрын

Murray Mondays, Dave December and Jane January

@magnetmussel Жыл бұрын

I don't know what Murray Mondays would be but im all for it👍😄

@jeffleake1960 2 ай бұрын

All starter sets should have the paints and such included . I'd feel ripped off if i bought one and that stuff wasnt with it

@livingglowstick1337 12 күн бұрын

TBF you would need to buy the coloured primers for two combat patrols which they can't ship with the box and has to be a separate item and there's a lot of different paints needed and many different colour schemes it's better for them to just stay separate

@leea-123.A Жыл бұрын

but last two dont have paints so if someone new you have to buy all the paints which make it very expensive

@edward3896 Жыл бұрын

6:48 OH MY LORD where has this game been ! NEW PLAYER ARRIVING ❤️‍🔥

@mikewicked.x Жыл бұрын

"Average" is over-selling that brush.

@TabletopTime Жыл бұрын

You're right. My sarcasm wasn't strong enough. The starter brush is hot garbage

@ProjeKtWEREWOLF Жыл бұрын

Aggressively shite?

@sladewilson8224 Ай бұрын

I remember my first starter set, assault on Blackreach.

@andrewcrane5105 6 ай бұрын

If you live in America get the damn Leviathan box it's $250 with $500 worth of models in it

@DanielCosta-zp6jl 10 ай бұрын

the only thing that puts me out of trying this for the first time is all the painting, not for me if there was boxset already painted models i would give a try and buy a box

@gillian_seed8358 4 ай бұрын

I just got the introductory set to dabble my toes in painting and a couple small battles. I got it over here in the US for 15%off msrp at my local hobby shop. If I like it, they got like 18 Leviathan boxes and said I could have one for $185 it’s like right at 26% off. That’s awesome!!

@daniellogue8365 Жыл бұрын

The mid tier box probably the best value. The terrain addition to this and the biggest necrom starter in 9th is kinda a feels bad. Doubling price for some terrain because GW prices all sprues the same. The old box insert terrain was a great idea, I've used it plenty of times. And if I'm a new player or using this to start a new army I want the most playable models as possible. Also $100USD about what I picture is the most someone is going to impulse buy into this game. Which I think Leviathan priced a lot of people out who weren't already committed to this game.

@Morrodin182 Жыл бұрын

The issue with the mid tier box is that the armies within aren't combat patrols. GW tries to promote combat patrol as the step into Warhammer way of playing. If you need to buy the missing models separately without discount, you are almost paying the same amount as you would for the ultimate starter box ... which is why the mid tier box is a huge trap and feel bad box. The introductory box is nice for anyone totally new to the hobby and unsure if they are gonna like it. The ultimate starter is the best box for new players that are 100% committed into getting into WH but don't own an army yet. Every other person is most likely best served by buying a combat patrol of the faction they like. At least that is my opinion about it 🙂

@LeftyRedd Жыл бұрын

Very important thing to note, the softcover rule book is better than the slimmed down, hardcover 'The Rules' book because the softcover one has combat patrol missions in the back whereas The Rules doesn't have them at all.

@charlesmcmanus4229 11 ай бұрын

Yeah, Assault on Black Reach was a great deal. - Dice, templates, the rulebook - Space Marine HQ - 10 Tactical Marines - 5 Terminators - 1 Dreadnaught (with a multimelta arm that was only available through kitbashing or ForgeWorld up til this point) - Ork HQ - 5 Ork Nobz - 20 Ork Boyz - 3 Koptas (first time in plastic) Retail price in USA: $75 I can’t tell you how many of those boxes sold and got new people into the hobby. And veteran gamers bought that box up to expand their existing armies (Hell, I started an Ork army BECAUSE of that starter box).

@Luzarioth 2 ай бұрын

I bought the Ultimate Starter Set for myself. Having absolutly nothing, that Box really jump started me.

@GameplayCasts Жыл бұрын

Love the videos! Very jealous of your big terrain pieces and how much time you get to spend modelling! I got a Leviathan Box and I'm a bit gutted it hasn't come with some terrain to be honest! I did manage to get the game boards and the game tokens with it though! Keep up the good work 👍 Its channels like yours that have inspired me to get back into the hobby! Dark Angles FTW!

@SystemUnderSiege 8 ай бұрын

I feel like it was a mistake to not include a shade in the intro set. Shoulda had an Earthshade. Shading for me was the "ah ha" moment when I first started where I could see awesome results in a fast fun way. It got me hooked and they add a lot so I think they should have done that.

@adye88 5 ай бұрын

The Original star craft artwork for the tyranids looks so cool.. what could've been.

@BrandonL337 Жыл бұрын

honestly, as someone who bought the leviathan box and who's folks are getting interested in getting some models to paint and maybe play, the ultimate box appeals to me a lot for something to get them. 2 full combat patrols, one for each of them, a board, some terrain and the mini rules, all three of which would be great to have, though admittedly I wish there was a bit more to the terrain, but that's my only real complaint.

@djmaxxsaint 3 ай бұрын

Space Hulk is the entry to forever. 🔥🔥🔥

@ThatIronHandsGuy 4 ай бұрын

the ultimate set is perfect for 2 siblings wanting to play warhammer together

@louisbuss6068 Жыл бұрын

2/3 of a legal Ripper Swarm 😂

@plasticbag4102 3 ай бұрын

1:33 hold up… my brother got me that box after id spent all of 2023 texting him questions. Now i wonder if he saw this video.

@Dragonlord651 Жыл бұрын

Space marines and tyranids are my favorite factions so this set is right up my alley

@Im-the-greatest 6 ай бұрын

I got the starter box based off this review. I was going to get some anyways. These things are a pain in the ass to put together and paint. I suck at painting but if you put mine together I'll paint yours.

@janelewis9251 9 ай бұрын

Nothing better than Dark Imperium will never be made. Period.

@Silverdragon83X 9 ай бұрын

I have to admit, for GW-conditions, the Ultimate Starter Set is really great! You have all in it to start playing a full game with all rules, terrain and a good board and even two good armies for the price! I still think a (cheap) cutter would round up every box, to really be able to cut out the parts of the sprues, that is not that easy for real beginners! Still a good set!

@alphawolf2993 8 ай бұрын

meanwhile, battletech starter box: $60. Comes with rulebook, mini novel, lore primer, two double-sides map sheets, two dice and two full teams of minis.

@darrellcolleran8884 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review, my brother and I are gonna give this box set a go….i like they way the painter swapped the color pallet between the armies!

@Sgt-lott10 Жыл бұрын

Been painting warhammer figures for a year but honestly, I'll probably still pick up some of these even though I play imperial guard

@TyphusVonElder Жыл бұрын

Assault on Black Reach the best, 80 bucks for a dred, 5 terminators, spacemarine tact squad and captain, and whatever else the orks had.

@theb3654 8 ай бұрын

I bought the Ultimate Starter box, im excited for my first warhammer experience.

@ThroatJunk Жыл бұрын

Are the models push fit?

@Thatoneinternetguy 10 ай бұрын

Hey, I’m trying to get into warhammer 40k, do you recommend I get the ultimate starter set or the introductory set?

@tito_tito_gorgorito 5 ай бұрын

Is it really worth paying extra for the "paper" version of the rules when they get updated and corrected?

@ScottAT Жыл бұрын

Can I make a suggestion on your Custom Space Bears? Name them simply….. The Kodiaks

@richardshiflett5181 4 ай бұрын

I suck at painting. Wish we had some product that was pre painted

@livingglowstick1337 12 күн бұрын

You will forever suck if you don't do anything

@ClarissaMeyer Жыл бұрын

That's a nice breakdown of those boxes!

@GlorifiedShed 9 ай бұрын

2/3s of a legal ripper swarm lol. It makes sense that thats how theyre sold, but its still funny

@madmerlinsart 8 ай бұрын

Planning to pick this up for a new series on my channel. This video has been very helpful, though I'd have liked a better look at the booklet included.

@InterrogatorchaplainAsmodai Жыл бұрын

He minis look great, although I intend to get the mid range starter set as its got those new terminators and I am unable to get them in any other way currently

@hll705 Жыл бұрын

The introductory set is brilliant. It gives an actual full introduction to the hobby to someone who is curious about the hobby. The starter set is a trap. The ultimate box is almost perfect. I’d say the lack of a full core book with all the lore detracts from the box. All of these boxes are nominally for beginners getting started in the hobby. If you are new, getting those 200 plus pages of lore and art really helps to immerse you in the world. Still, given that GW stopped including the full core book in starter sets ages ago, it probably is one of the best starters they’ve made.

@TabletopTime Жыл бұрын

We concur! The starter set is only desirable for established players seeing cheap minis - but with the mix of models, is it even worth getting in multiples? Better off waiting for the inevitable magazine collection or box splits

@FernaldiTan Жыл бұрын

Leviathan Cost 150 Ultimate Starter Cost 125 with a change of 5 Sternguard, 10 Neurogaunts, and Data Cards for a not so good looking terrain 😥 Idk about you guys but I'd rather get the Levi Box for 25 more with more models and cards and dice tray that is more useful in game..

@TabletopTime Жыл бұрын

In Australia the difference is $120

@Basil_Ghothickovitch Жыл бұрын

I don't need any paint or cutting pliers or terrain, just miniatures for my Curiosly Assembled Collection. But bloody Games Workshop didn't send the Leviathan box to the retailer where I usually buy, so I can't get a good deal on it, otherwise there's no point. And so I would buy a Leviathan, but I will have to buy an average middle starter set, probably.

@TabletopTime Жыл бұрын

The middle box is definitely the best value for raw minis for an established collector!

@heddge7718 7 ай бұрын

Is there a video out on the painting of those terminators?!? Those are beautiful

@Enja_Near Жыл бұрын

I got Leviathan for $300 CDN. (CDN monopoly money is roughly the same as AUS dollareedoos.) Definitely worth it vs. Ultimate starter.

@fabianm2819 6 ай бұрын

black reach was the pinnacle of starter boxes, change my mind

@user-zd7we1zv5i Жыл бұрын

Guys stranger things is stranger things meets dnd- like, you’ve seen the show right?

@TabletopTime Жыл бұрын

What is a show?

@user-zd7we1zv5i Жыл бұрын

@@TabletopTime I mean, it’s kinda like KZfaq, but longer?

@lt.clifforthz3942 9 ай бұрын

Best starter pack in 2024 is a Resin 3D Printer

@thatwargaming5459 3 ай бұрын

I would do it just for fun I love painting

@awesomlawson Жыл бұрын

great video, good to see gw is recognising talent ;)

@ThinAirGraFx Жыл бұрын

Y after staring with the Leviathan set I almost wish I waited because would be nice to start with terrain and matts and such

@sniperlemming Жыл бұрын

None of these boxes are for me because i don't collect Space Marines or Tyranids, and don't intend to, but this was still an interesting video.

@vhanekyharc1475 Жыл бұрын

it feels like the middle set is perect in a way. I dont care about terrain( which probably makes almost half the price)

@Wolfineer_ Жыл бұрын

Dave called it, I'm currently building an army after not playing 40k since 2nd Ed and the only thing I'd be keen to pick up from the starter box is that mini-rule book.

@mrthomas2847 8 ай бұрын

Leviathan cost 140 USD in Norway at the start now 160 USD

@jarlaxledaerthe4045 11 ай бұрын

Is that the exact same terrain as the last box?

@randyp9954 Жыл бұрын

Also hope the do this with their other systems.

@xxxdevin247 11 ай бұрын

Currently reading/listening to 40K lore, plan on buying some sets and considering these sets and black templars, open to suggestions/tips. I'm just now dipping my toes into it.

@Hadorus1 Жыл бұрын

Think you will ever paint and make Necrons?!??

@christinkunze Жыл бұрын

I think Rob started a Necron army back in the day but not sure what the status is as he is fairly busy and not really appearing in TTT videos much anyways.

@mikem0ke 8 ай бұрын

Kinda nuts that only the smaller set has paints

@Gutterman-tn2ry Жыл бұрын

This feels a lot better than the 9ed starter boxes. For those to get a combat patrol sized force you'd need to buy both the recruit and command editions, which actually came out to more expensive than this box, and once the Leviathan box is gone I expect this will feel like a much better deal. Overall, much better than expected from GW.

@sorubro2193 2 ай бұрын

What about the primer for the figures?

@afiblacksails23 10 ай бұрын

I already bought leviathan but now I want the ultimate… might as well set my direct deposit straight to GW.

@southmole Жыл бұрын

I got the leviathan boxset for $340 on release (Australian) with free delivery, not too bad I thought.

@jocelynchaumette1407 3 ай бұрын

Hi, thank you for this detailed presentation. Are the spacemarines of all these kits always Ultra marines? I'm not familiar with the game so I'm not sure to understand what it takes to transform a Space marine squad from Ultra marines to Dark angels for exemple. I'm not talking about specific units but just the basic generic one. Do you just need to paint the Space marine in green instead of blue and the terminator in ivory and green? Do you need to replace stickers and some sculpted symbols? Are there any of these in the starters?

@livingglowstick1337 12 күн бұрын

Yes you need to change the colours and symbols if you want to change the faction. For games running the official rules they must look like the faction you are playing to be legal for the game. Home games people don't care

@Tigerheart01 Жыл бұрын

"...this time, they've got three." Uh, 8th and 9th edition would like to have a conversation with you. lol.

@TabletopTime Жыл бұрын

That time, they also had three ;)

@SolarisWesson Жыл бұрын

When Dave starts talking about the Ultimate box, my brain goes to KFC

@TabletopTime Жыл бұрын

The real ultimate box

@ArnolddeGans Жыл бұрын

Meanwhile in the pre-order of today : Warhammer 40,000: The Rules a A5 Rulebook for €20 ....

@bartoszgrzesiak9130 9 ай бұрын

Is Warhammer 40k Ultimate Starter Set good choice for someone whos own already Warhammer 40k Command edition?

@K3ns4i 6 ай бұрын

I loved the video and reviews! But also how dare you exclude the price in € 🤣

@randyp9954 Жыл бұрын

A step in the right direction. Not sure if I am coming back as quit at 4th edition. But a starter set is a great move. Hopefully they come out with more and add the core book to other sets too.

@JM-sp2iu 2 ай бұрын

I have never seen a starter box worth buying yet.

@sosdesos 8 ай бұрын

Wow…….. I remember you could buy 2 starter boxes for €120 and you’d have 2 FULL armies (ork and SpaceMarines) plus 2 rulebook.

@peterdejonge4590 Жыл бұрын

Good revieuw, but i missed the euro price a very big miss

@Jacey2001 Жыл бұрын

Was going to get the leviathan set... Not worried about price, it's 300 dollars in Canada.. should I still get that? I can build terrain too

@GeorgioSubs 3 ай бұрын

Right now I can get the Ultimate Starter for $210 or Leviathan for $250. Seems like Leviathan is the much better value, right?

@wakcedout Ай бұрын

Meh, I still like me large tomes for rules. The minibooks are nice for portability, but those large books are great to flip thru.

@CarbonTaxLOL Жыл бұрын

The best starter set still has to be blood bowl I guees

@TrueBlueAndrew Ай бұрын

Brits Sure do love Warhammer

@kvarntobben 6 ай бұрын

bAD is its easy fit. box is made for ppl who cant build models even if their lives depended on it

@silverpro8356 8 ай бұрын

$300 AUD jesus they are really taking advantage of new comers now i thought it was bad before but thats just insane.

@DJChipsandGarlic Жыл бұрын

i would be tempted to just get the cheapest starter set just to paint the tyranids. i collect astra militarum so dont want to add too much to the pile of shame XD