Ivy Dreams 5/10 SAT - Test Scores for Asian Americans

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Ivy League Dreams College University admission interviews decisions 4 asian american high school students try to reach the Ivy League in this documentary

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@aabdi2001 6 жыл бұрын

People are hating on Mike fail to realize that he is the head of the family and has to work to provide for his family. You could also tell his situation wasn't good,he was sleeping on the ground! Studying is the last thing on his mind, cut him some slack

@qjwang1568 8 жыл бұрын

sophie's dad is exactly the reason why there are stereotypes about strict Asian parents.

@jtj1128 4 жыл бұрын

QJ Wang You can’t forget about the mothers

@tristanbrown6255 10 жыл бұрын

I love how Diana, who arguably had the best final result, had the most liberal and supporting father, in contrast to Sophie, who had the strictest father and got arguably the worst result among the girls.

@eliminatorjr 5 жыл бұрын

Sophie didn't get in because her essay was awful

@kristentran1897 5 жыл бұрын

I love how her dad was trying to help her feel better when he said that 770 is a good score (IT IS).

@davideyaliscool 5 жыл бұрын

Because she goes to hchs which has insane connections

@davideyaliscool 5 жыл бұрын

@@kristentran1897 I think that was fine the mom just wanted her to do better. It's not like she gonna force him to take it over again. Like Sophie's dad

@davideyaliscool 5 жыл бұрын

@@kristentran1897 I think that was fine the mom just wanted her to do better. It's not like she gonna force him to take it over again. Like Sophie's dad

@bekahliz7370 8 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry if people are gonna call this taking it too personally, but Michelle's mom bringing in her brother JUST to laugh at her got me really upset.

@russianroulette1426 8 жыл бұрын

Me too. Bad parenting 101

@alankoshaba3322 8 жыл бұрын

8 or 9 years ago

@42_10_ 4 жыл бұрын

that’s normal for Asian. I’ve been compared all the time with my brothers, no big deal

@zakarya569 4 жыл бұрын

no people aren't gonna take this seriously comparing your child to another for grades and having them laugh at you is horrible parenting

@jesminaktar7446 4 жыл бұрын

But she got better scores than him

@thisismeww 10 жыл бұрын

The look on Sophie's face at 6:00 is the worst feeling.. When you are excited and proud but other people are not. She should be proud of her own accomplishments and not seek it from other people to make her feel worthy. It's sad

@xtzyshuadog 9 жыл бұрын

As I watch this, I feel like these parents must be acting. I can't imagine any parent reacting this way, saying "730 is a bad score" with a monotone voice like at 8:39, and 8:55 really annoyed me. What a shitty brother one can have.

@thisismeww 9 жыл бұрын

Bignicky9 that's asian for ya!

@xtzyshuadog 9 жыл бұрын

Well, I'm Asian, and my parents both went to Ivy league universities. But thankfully, they don't bother me to this extent. They just give support, and I'm happy.

@thisismeww 9 жыл бұрын

Bignicky9 lol mine just gave up.. like in elementary school, they focused way too much and I could care less. But when they left me alone I felt better about my self so I did better. like they still remind me about marks, but that's the most

@xtzyshuadog 9 жыл бұрын

Are you aiming for any Ivy League colleges? That is, to say, that you are in HS.

@yingyangangel1000 10 жыл бұрын

I think it was kind of disgusting when the mother brought the brother in and laughed with him about her test scores......that was a brilliant result...

@mattshih9262 6 жыл бұрын

They should make a follow up series bc these kids are like 30 now

@camstradingadventure8730 5 жыл бұрын

mattee they’re only like 26

@Sen4959 5 жыл бұрын

@@camstradingadventure8730 16 or 17 in 2005 -2019 = 30 , 31 . you don't know math kid .

@camstradingadventure8730 5 жыл бұрын

Inazumaddicted 94 uh no because this was 2010 and it’s 2018 and theyre 18, 18+8=26

@Sen4959 5 жыл бұрын

@@camstradingadventure8730 hhhh it is 2019 they are freaking between 16 and 17

@AnonymousAnonymous-jv6my 5 жыл бұрын

#Inanzumaddicted 94 This show was made in 2005 not 2010, look at 7:45

@Hawktotalwar 9 жыл бұрын

lets admit it your all here because you are procrastinating, go back and study

@Hawktotalwar 9 жыл бұрын

***** because I'm procrastinating myself

@Jacob-ry3lu 9 жыл бұрын

*you're. Maybe you need to get back to studying as well.

@fabian-isf5310 9 жыл бұрын

jacob lahr LOL

@FsimulatorX 9 жыл бұрын

Curtis I haha I am taking a break from my SAT study time. The last 3 days I have been studying from 8AM to 10PM!!! I think I need to recharge. At least I raised my potential SAT score by 80 points. lol

@fabian-isf5310 9 жыл бұрын

***** how do u manage to study that long without giving up!?

@GuardianDiancie 11 жыл бұрын

Is it me or did the dad for get he told her "I hope you will pass both with at 700" and when the child gets above a 760, and calls you to report it you wish it was 800. I bet if she got a above 900 he'll wish it was 1000.

@dragsigma 11 жыл бұрын

I love how dad was like "I think a 770 is good" and the mom was just like "no not good enough"

@fabian-isf5310 9 жыл бұрын

8:58 I find it immature of her mom and brother laughing at her scores. She must feel very discouraged from that.

@rohankhubchandani3694 5 жыл бұрын

kyga and tylie jenner then you have a fucked up family. Don’t you feel sad when they do that?

@chua5959 5 жыл бұрын

Rohan Khubchandani my parents do that to coz they now that we as siblings like to hype up the competition

@42_10_ 4 жыл бұрын

Ryan Chua sameeeee

@im6star313 4 жыл бұрын

@@chua5959 its not too bad it is just to encourage everyone else.

@qornn 3 жыл бұрын

If the family dynamic is good, it's no problem, which they do have.

@chaospreferable 11 жыл бұрын

The Ivies don't distinguish AT ALL between a 770 and 800. They really don't care. Once you're above 700 or so in each section, it's all about activities and essays. I got into Yale with a 2270/2400. These kids probably wasted so much time trying to get those last meaningless 30 points instead of doing what ACTUALLY could've gotten them in. Pursue your passions! You'll be more likely to get in. And if you don't, guess what? There are TONS of excellent colleges that might be a better fit for you.

@KoruGo 4 жыл бұрын

The 30 points aren't worth retaking the test, but they do show that you were unprepared. I don't think you should be taking more than 2 SAT subject tests. Those should be for subjects you're sure you can get an 800 in.

@pianogal1010 12 жыл бұрын

770 is really good! when i got a 790, I almost FAINTED. Like that was the highlight of the YEAR. how can they be so mellow about a 770?!!!

@wannamlwithu 7 жыл бұрын

770 is def a great score! Shoot i think last time i took sat and i scored 730 well i didn't apply for ivy but it helped me get to good school at least.

@SuperSimon345 7 жыл бұрын

The Foodie Duos - Christila U where did you go?

@jeremyb807 7 жыл бұрын

aw i felt so bad for her at 5:53 she was so excited and her dad is still not happy

@dannyleo4791 10 жыл бұрын

I like Michelle. She's got a great sense of humor.

@lfior 9 жыл бұрын

haha 770 not good enough you joking?

@chili_boi2537 5 жыл бұрын

That's Asians for you

@detailsinthefabric 13 жыл бұрын

Kudos to Diana's father for accepting the 770, which is already amazing! Diana's mom needs to chill.

@trex-mepo-climbs 12 жыл бұрын

I don't think Sophie's dad would ever be satisfied with her score...unless they were perfect. The first time he says that "I wish you could have gotten more than 500," but when she scores a 760 he wants her to get an 800...people like that would never be happy...

@nacbasnba 10 жыл бұрын

770 is like 2 questions wrong

@eliminatorjr 5 жыл бұрын

nooo actually it's more like 6-8 questions wrong you can get 4-6 questions wrong on many tests and still get 800

@KoruGo 4 жыл бұрын

Depends on whether they got a good curve

@Sylar1282 11 жыл бұрын

Why should he need to be told? I wasn't told about the requirements for subject tests. Nor were any of my classmates. We all were 'motivated' enough to check Columbia's website and realize what was needed. I definitely don't think Mike was motivated. Howabout when he fell asleep in front of the TV and then bitched about having to take the SAT the next day? Or when he didn't make sure to be on time for his interview? Or actually care about doing well in school in general?

@chaospreferable 11 жыл бұрын

Plus, my parents would never dream of showing disappointment over a score or grade. They may show disappointment if I didn't try, but they never would say "not good enough." They would gently say, "maybe you could ask your teacher about strategies for doing better next time?" #Happychildhood #youdon'thavetogotoYaletobeawesome

@GuardianDiancie 9 жыл бұрын

I'd never understand Asian parents, tell child to get 700 and then he/she gets the 700. What next you expect them to get 100 points more than what you said before to them. I'd record the conversations with my parents and then when they change up the story in the future, play the recording and just smile this is what you said before. --> Did this as a teen a lot. Your parents might beat your ass for doing what I did growing up record conversations when I felt this is gonna come up in the future again, but my parents couldn't slap me

@terrygao7118 5 жыл бұрын

u are lucky that you parents didn't slap you in the face...

@Dream17High 10 жыл бұрын

Sadly, Sophie Xiong, 21, was arrested on a misdemeanor charge of marijuana distribution.:(

@FF18Cloud 11 жыл бұрын

Lmao, I remember when I got a 710 on math, my asian parents had the biggest smiles I've ever seen in my life O.o

@xtzyshuadog 9 жыл бұрын

I am in pure disbelief. I'm an Asian-American with two parents who went to Ivy League schools, and I was never treated this way. I'm very lucky not to have a huge pressure from them, though I wish I scored higher on my SAT Subject Test in Math II (570 is terrible for any school that considers Subject Tests). But I'm so amazed at some parents' reactions to scores in the 700s. To me as a Chinese kid, these parents' reactions makes me want to think that they're acting and getting paid to say that stuff.

@christianmarshall3439 12 жыл бұрын

Oh my gosh, that is awesome!!

@melaninstudies9331 7 жыл бұрын

In my opinion I don't think Mike is even trying. How are you going to do a test for the second time and get worse score than the first time.

@dvg4868 5 жыл бұрын

Neduza aduzen why don’t you try juggling supporting your family as the head and doing extracurriculars as well as schoolwork

@dvg4868 4 жыл бұрын

Neduza aduzen wow nice comeback what are you 12 years old?

@abhilashaa2799 4 жыл бұрын

@@neduzaaduzen1408 lol incel alert

@zakarya569 4 жыл бұрын

@@neduzaaduzen1408 literally gtfo of here you're like 5 lmfao

@ron4sc 10 жыл бұрын

Telling their daughter that a 770 on the Subject Test should be considered emotional abuse.

@kristentran1897 5 жыл бұрын

Ron Evans I mean, the dad said he thought that 770 was a good score

@flyingacres2063 3 жыл бұрын

“Unless she got an 800 then I would hug her” then laughs nervously?! Even Diana’s dad said 770 is a good score...

@d16024 8 жыл бұрын

wow !! how could u take use the cam in the SAT center hall ?

@whenhen 12 жыл бұрын

At most nonelite high schools, there's almost no college guidance because the counselor to student ratio is so high. At my hs there were 3 counselors for 3000 students They not only had to advise about college but also needed to help students graduate, tell them how to dual enroll, etc. For a student in that environment, who's used to being the smartest person in the room, they have this subconscious assumption that no one is as well qualified as them (cont)

@catha86 11 жыл бұрын

I am asian. trust me my parents are the same. They request high scores but when you archives them they will not be satisfied because they thought you wouldn't actually get there and should have asked for more. But deep inside they are happy as fuck. They know you scored high and as long as you get your education and a good job they will be happy for you. They will just ask for you to do your best until then.

@RPG720 8 жыл бұрын

1430?! WTF?!

@jimmyschiff2396 8 жыл бұрын

+RPG720 lmao

@qing2083 6 жыл бұрын

1430/2400? not good. 1430/1600? Better.

@ifunanyaosuorah3883 5 жыл бұрын

qq нυ 1430/1600 is rly good

@qing2083 5 жыл бұрын

1430/1600 is good for some of the good schools that is not ivy league but a 1430/1600 won't get you into an Ivy unless you somehow did something truly amazing. How "good" a score is depends on the school, but yes, overall it's pretty good.

@emlitfan1d 11 жыл бұрын

And so much discipline, i could never ever do that

@chaospreferable 11 жыл бұрын

That's tough, Syvmana. The SAT isn't a good judge of intelligence because multiple choice tests don't lend themselves well to testing people who are unique thinkers and learners. And don't worry about the math section! It's the easiest to bring up because the questions are predictable. You could try doing an SAT math question a day through College Board.

@ZetaAdele 12 жыл бұрын

@Arzgan I know right? I really wish I didn't have to take such meaningless tests, but if I want to get into certain schools (I'm aiming for Princeton ^^) It's what they expect, so I'll just study my hardest and hope for the best!

@MsScully25 11 жыл бұрын

I am from Austria and we don´t have things such as SAT I oder II, so could someone explain me: Why is a Score over 700 considered bad? I mean there are 800 per each category (from what I researched), so 760 is bad? Or is this just Asian standard?

@ChinaTeen1 10 жыл бұрын

The u.s history sat is really hard which requires a ton of memorizing so my asian parents were happy i got a 700

@ChinaTeen1 5 жыл бұрын

I posted this thing 4 years ago, holy shit... why am i watching this series again 4 years later...

@LogiQify 10 жыл бұрын

7000 weeks is equivalent to 129 years. Some misinformation by Sophie there!

@liverpooler1997 9 жыл бұрын

its ok. her looks make up for her mathematical incompetence.

@liverpooler1997 8 жыл бұрын

+Yunling Zhu lol he was just making fun

@abc314pi 7 жыл бұрын

ScienceJedi nope it is 134 almost 135 years, you are sadly misinformed

@AnonymousAnonymous-jv6my 5 жыл бұрын

Ummmmmm...... I think it's a figure of speech,.............

@wesleytocool 11 жыл бұрын

Lol okay true. You're right. I can't believe they let Mike go on like that. Esp at the end! That was jacked! They could have told him!

@whenhen 12 жыл бұрын

Did you end up getting into JHU or any of the Ivies?

@jugoolick2006 12 жыл бұрын

In Sophie's case, 780 760 760 and 2100 should get you into a good college! But I do know that colleges want a high score on a foreign language SAT II, and her French was 490.

@441meatloaf 10 жыл бұрын

Ah, the asian family and the parents thinking of extremely high grade. I've been through it, luckily my parents didn't care much during my last year of high school and provincial exams.

@austinmcwilliams9192 4 жыл бұрын

Watching this makes me realize how lucky I am that my parents aren't on my ass all the time about my grades and then after I watch these I go and study or actually do my homework and not copy someone else's ten minutes before class

@darcean983 5 жыл бұрын

8:57 disgusting.... this whole thing is disgusting... “I wouldn’t hug her unless she got an 800” what the frick is this?

@annabelllu 9 жыл бұрын

As if the parents could do better?

@elizabethcoulson3890 8 жыл бұрын

+annabelllu That's the whole point of these children's histories and determination- they do it precisely so they don't end up struggling like their parents did. These poor people don't even speak proper English after decades lived in the US and they probably had to struggle like mad in menial jobs, to make ends meet. The kids are born in the free world, they have all the advantages of an educated society, their own rooms, computers and internet access, they go to great schools, two of them have their own cars, their homes are clean, food is on the table, clothes on their back...what else could they need to succeed? Perhaps joining Tinder in 9th grade, dyeing your hair blue and getting six piercings and two tattoos might be construed as the idea of a 'happy student' who's preparing for an Ivy League college. For them, it's hard work, determination and the drive to succeed- not through American Idol or sex tapes, but through their own efforts. I salute them and wish more kids were this driven, respectful, mature and ambitious to do something with themselves.

@bingaling22 7 жыл бұрын

awww well said

@johnqi5307 6 жыл бұрын

They could, after all they took the gaokao in China which you dont know what level of anxiety, stress and difficulty that is because many people tend to cheat and cheating on the gaokao could lead to 7 years in prison. Also, the gaokao determines your future in China and the streets and stores have to be shut down so it is completely silent for students to take the test. Also, during the gaokao they have ambulances outside in case of a nervousness collapse. Unfortunately, this test is mandatory for students going into college and since it basically decides your future, some students have been so stressed there have been many suicides over the years.

@hurricanerz 11 жыл бұрын

"I want to go and do a lot of stuff!!!" next scene: *jumps into bed*

@GuardianDiancie 11 жыл бұрын

I say when you see parents smiling for something like that, remember looks can be deceiving ~ they would look happy yet, when your not around and someplace else in the house they would start talking about what they heard or saw for your grade. Thats what my Asian classmate said even if you got the max score, they would want more

@rwskiller5 12 жыл бұрын

@astrophysicist16 Anyone can apply. The question is whether or not you got in.

@jugoolick2006 12 жыл бұрын

@anahit93 He got accepted at UPenn? He did?? Where does he or the video say that??

@khalfani131 12 жыл бұрын

im takin 1 AP as a freshman and all honors classes but my grades arent reflecting Ivy league material. im also doing science olympiads, science explorers, christian club, mathletes and french club. im going to do winter and spring track. in middle school i got above 95 always. now im in hs taking advanced classes and im getting low 80's. should i be worried? oh and im black

@mark11jcc 12 жыл бұрын

@solidiquis1 wrong, most Asian families that are either first or second generation are this strict.

@GuardianDiancie 11 жыл бұрын

Me too, except for the last part about wish I could have gotten better. ~ I'm satisfied with my grades. When I see a bad grade, I'm like god gave me this grade for a reason good or bad (even when I push myself to study 24/7)

@WOWUPSIDEDOWN 12 жыл бұрын

yeah i agree. but i also believe that u can significantly increase ur chances by getting above 2300, 800 subject tests, getting like every presidency, national awards

@Paupau-ys1ps 6 жыл бұрын

Ok tell me this the dad said” I wish you could’ve got a 700 on the sat” then when the girl got 780 the dad said” I wish you could’ve got a 800” why are these parents keep upping them I’m Filipino

@anirudhbalepur7898 4 жыл бұрын

aint tryna hate or nuthin.... but shee on some of those (like math) 700 was considered hella good? musta been way harder

@watyomamagot 11 жыл бұрын

diana's dad seems SOOO COOL!

@eliminatorjr 5 жыл бұрын

the SAT lit is so fucking difficult and it's the only one that is actually relatively impossible to prepare for because it's not testing empirical knowledge. ergo 770 is a really really good score

@westacdec 12 жыл бұрын

Don't assume things - Yale has a huge endowment and gives very good financial aid. Although the sticker price is higher than a state school's, Yale's aid package will often make the prices comparable. In my case, Yale offered me a full ride whereas my state school offered me barely anything.

@bowler8 12 жыл бұрын

@geoffybellofiore I agree, its not all about the scores

@jesminaktar7446 4 жыл бұрын

One major reason why Diana and Mitchell scored better is because in new york there is something called specialized high schools and hunter in one of them. Kids who do well on the shsat get into a specialized high and later on get amazing scores cuz specialized highs give amazing education.

@ainezm 12 жыл бұрын

I'm curious, where did you end up enrolling?

@mark11jcc 12 жыл бұрын

@solidiquis1 I am first generation as well, but I was not born here, and I can definitely say my parents are this strict. There is a difference between the perspectives of most Chinese and Vietnamese parents.

@TimeStopper20XX 10 жыл бұрын

How do they manage stress?

@jugoolick2006 12 жыл бұрын

Sophie actually did well on the SAT I. I didn't study for the SAT I at all, unlike Sophie.

@conanfavorite 11 жыл бұрын

I don't understand those parents..... I am an asian and my mom was a top student in high school and medical school. As long as i don't fail and keep high score, that's enough for her. She always said perfect score doesn't show that you are a perfect student.... but if you can understand the main idea of the subject, it means that you are doing the best in this subject.....

@whenhen 12 жыл бұрын

(cont) and of course they'll get in. This is particularly problematic if the parent didn't go to a selective school (or in Mike's case, college at all), and thus assumes that any college will accept their bright child. They tell this to their kid which inflates their assumptions about college. The parents don't realize how competitive admissions have gotten at the top schools, and the counselors don't tell the kids.

@tenisistic 11 жыл бұрын

it's SAT subjects though. They all have such a nice curve!

@mathewheffley121 11 жыл бұрын

wait so mike got a 1400 out of 2400 on the sat and took no sat 2's, and he still expected to get in to columbia?! The average score is 2190!

@rwskiller5 12 жыл бұрын

Am i the only one who noticed that mike actually got a 1350 and not a 1400? He added incorrectly.

@rentrules11 11 жыл бұрын

I'm not saying he would have been able to attend in Columbia. However, he had to support his entire family by himself and he didn't know about the standards of these kinds of schools. He also didn't know that 2 SAT subject tests must be submitted; maybe he thought it was optional. If someone had told him about all of the requirements early on, maybe he would have performed better academically and could have enrolled in SAT classes early on. He seemed motivated, but confused and out of the loop.

@Iluvmydogs128 12 жыл бұрын

Yale tuition: $50k per year (including room & board). $50k X 4 = $200k in student loan, is this really worth it?!!!! Why not just go to state college with a full scholarship?

@painterwithcurls2012 12 жыл бұрын

I just got into my dream school yesterday (best history program in the UK, it was a huge reach for me), but after watching this I feel like a total dunce.

@maestroadam 6 жыл бұрын

To be honest, these parents are not even that strict.

@somaliya164 5 жыл бұрын

How many times are there saying the SAT

@MultiTrillionaire 12 жыл бұрын

well he took it in 2005, and at that time there wasn't a writing section so it was out of 1600.

@ItsHiddenMoon 12 жыл бұрын

I wish the parents would understand how hard the children are working.

@EquestrianPride16 12 жыл бұрын

that's not true if you pause it at like 7:45 or something it says the scores for all 3 sections

@MontyGumby 8 жыл бұрын

when was this filmed ?

@wannamlwithu 7 жыл бұрын

2005

@myj0urney 10 жыл бұрын

What is it out of?

@whenhen 12 жыл бұрын

Everyone but Mike had a chance. The thing is, you don't know who the Ivies will take. The guy with a 36 ended up getting into Harvard, so it's not like he didn't get in anywhere. But again, he got rejected from Yale and Stanford. At that level of selectivity it's impossible to know who the schools will take, and who they'll reject, assuming the applicant has above a 2250 and excellent grades. If you go on CC so much you should know this.

@ShockPopStudios 12 жыл бұрын

@Arzgan SAT isn't designed to teach you anything or really show how smart u are. Its designed to show that you are capable of handling university. Responsible for studying, knowledgeable and educated. if everyone got accepted with no test, University would be a mess.

@jugoolick2006 12 жыл бұрын

780 on Math II is really good. I NEVER studied for the SAT's, I or II...!!!

@donaldb040 10 жыл бұрын

Wow, I got a 1510 the first time I took my sat and I go to the worst school in my state, lol. I jumped it up to 1950 with some studying though.

@BoggoLiverpool13 11 жыл бұрын

I got a 710-Math 1 and 690-Math 2 & I'm black lol. Think Affirmitive Action could pull a few strings for me?

@DrBananaKing7000 11 жыл бұрын

I know. I wasn't being serious. You've clearly proven that.

@IwantAllamaRealBad 10 жыл бұрын

It seems like she only does whatever her parents say, if she doesn't stop and start thinking for herself she's going to have the worst mid-life crisis ever

@AmaranthineDegada 11 жыл бұрын

i'm actually really impressed that Sophie got 780 on Math II......>.> that's like my dreamm

@WHHB1223 13 жыл бұрын

I have the same last name as Sophie LOL, i realized when I saw the back of her sweater

@FantasyVesperia 12 жыл бұрын

Mike's 1430 SAT score will probably be my highest score...

@damnf333 12 жыл бұрын

Well, it's nice to meet a fellow overachiever. :P

@Syvmana 11 жыл бұрын

I might be below a 1500, I wasn't able to finish my Reasoning Response and I guessed plenty of times on the Math Section.

@jimmyjxia 11 жыл бұрын

oh man i can tell that the only reason the parents aren't yelling is because there is a camera crew there. harsh.

@econ763 11 жыл бұрын

That awkward moment when you want to go to Columbia, but you can't even add your SAT scores up correctly

@odonnellggshct 12 жыл бұрын

See I went to a private high school in Omaha Nebraska and we had 3 counselors for 1,500 students

@wajihakhan7259 10 жыл бұрын

You need to get a 2500!

@blurbthenerd 10 жыл бұрын

These parents are freaking insane

@pianogal1010 12 жыл бұрын

5:57 was really funny too

@xinni4 11 жыл бұрын

yo when I got a 750 on my Math II my parents told me that I would have to retake it because it wasn't good enough...but I put my foot down and said hell no