J. Krishnamurti - Madras 1982 - Seminar 2 - Desire, time and thought are the basic elements of fear

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Madras (Chennai) 1982 - Seminar 2 - Desire, time and thought are the basic elements of fear
Summary:
When a human being is the past, the present and the future, he is time bound, the result of all human endeavour.
As ordinary human beings can we not radically change?
I am the ordinary man caught in a wheel. What am I to do or not do?
What is the mirror in which I can see my reactions, thoughts and misery?
Do we ever use the fullness of our senses?
There is no difference between me and fear. I am fear.
Desire is when thought takes charge of sensation and creates an image.
To be so alert that thought doesn’t interfere with sensation.
Since I am the time-maker, I am bound to time.
Time and thought are not different.
Note: a total of 26 seconds of missing video is replaced by audio only.
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@nrspinelli 11 ай бұрын

im amazed at all these people how they had this wisdom in their presence and they wouldnt let him talk

@user-lk1nj1ur6e 20 күн бұрын

DESTINY Do you wake up each morning, look in the mirror just like me We’re another day older, do we like who we see Are we anywhere near where we thought we would be Destiny Destiny Looking back upon my past, illusion led my way Pondering who I amuz it’s another day. I couldn’t care bout what I didn’t know, that today I see I’m finally looking clearly, into , c the eyes of destiny The winds of fate may blow you Where you don’t wanna be Sometimes you don’t have a choice In the arms of destiny So wrap your arms around her And hang on for the ride For your destiny is in your soul Your destiny’s inside

@Fernando-fy7nj Жыл бұрын

Attention is the requirement 🙏 Your fullest attention for any thing, which is in front of you. Will solve all your problems ❤️

@miracle3585 Жыл бұрын

I do understand now why K said "thought can not solve anything"

@garryfitzgerald6233 Ай бұрын

You've answered your question....

@ajabisong 4 жыл бұрын

“I won’t tell him all this”. “What will you do?” “Hold his hand”... 1:51:45-1:52:42 🙏🏿

@mathematicsclub961 2 жыл бұрын

wow

@terriblemung9942 3 жыл бұрын

Wow KrishnaJ's simple reply at the end to almost 2 hours of semantics is so indicative of how enlightened, truthful or aware of a being he is!! love it

@kellygotact6515 Жыл бұрын

This is the most hilarious video of Krishnamurti I have Seen, I absolutly love it!😅😉

@christianhertel2533 Жыл бұрын

Gracias por subir este material 🙏

@rishisinha1426 3 жыл бұрын

What an enlightened man... and what patience. He waited for 1 hour 32 minutes... Let all of them play like children and then he cuts through the faf like hot knife cuts the butter.

@johninman7545 2 жыл бұрын

Now we are at this very instance at the point of total destruction or great awareness, rather Awakening. All our lives are world, us, has been involved in selfish self destruction. The whole import of modern life is meaningless aquasittion boiling our life nature itself. The Atomic bomb was no accident .Conciousness is conflict. Thought is aggressive.

@Parallelthinkers Жыл бұрын

Shocked and amazed

@wobbles7915 Жыл бұрын

The way Krishnamurti just evicerates people's logic and concepts just by attacking their question are my favorite and are personally when i think the most enlightening things are said

@joginderanand7618 Жыл бұрын

I have flashes as K is talking that for an instant there is existence with I non existent Really so in fact but habit is so strong it keeps returning All the same I must love continuing listening to K to the end of time and with no regret and yet with the sure hope that the ground is going to open any moment The door must open This is not mere wishful thinking In a way the miracle has already taken birth Merely to think of K fills my whole being with inexhaustible wonder precious beyond words to say the least

@user-uu5jf3jo3o Жыл бұрын

I would hug him, comfort him. Then, listen. If he has specific questions we then could go deeply into the root of fear: conflict created by our habit to escape from what is, refusal to live a loving life, in all aspects. I.e., a life where conflict is not maintained, as we have inner order and do not change what is in what should be.

@kellygotact6515 Жыл бұрын

Obviously you are a good pupil, repeating word for word the talks of thé speaker😉

@bodhiheeren Жыл бұрын

My personal feeling is that there is a primordial fear, a fear of death, of non being. The deer running for its life from the predator obviously also experiences fear which hardly can be ascribed to "desire, time and thought"

@vladarodic9683 Жыл бұрын

He is talking about the shadow work and it’s needed to nurture it all your life. It is a part of you and it made you but we always supress it. It is a long road basically all your life,the moment you don’t care anymore for it it comes back as a fear or any other type that you don’t like to see whether you will acknowledge it or no. This is repeated cycle through your existence

@kellygotact6515 Жыл бұрын

Do What Sir ??😂😅😏

@jatinrajmusic 2 ай бұрын

Hold his hand ❤

@miaflorpangan7349 Жыл бұрын

Such a silly group, they were all over themselves trying to sound smarter than the other, I can’t judge them though, they mentioned that they were invited to “discuss” so they had to display their “intelligence”. Krishnaji, such patience. 🙏🏼

@victorcilli8683 Жыл бұрын

I found the guy with the glasses particularly funny though...😝

@bodhiheeren Жыл бұрын

@@victorcilli8683 Advaita is very funny, Ramana Maharshi specially. But good that you have found the right answer with Krishnamurti. Such a nice feeling knowing the truth, right sir?

@kellygotact6515 Жыл бұрын

You're kidding ? He had the time of his life!😂🤣

@nobodyreally 3 жыл бұрын

🌻🌻🌻

@verigumetin4291 3 жыл бұрын

Honesty

@brutusalwaysminded 2 жыл бұрын

Why are they all going around the Mulberry bush? It's right in front of them! 😁Thanks.

@madhavareddy2274 Жыл бұрын

i think he trying to hit the real core of the issue as he always..to get his point we really need to be attentive

@revazdzneladze3356 2 жыл бұрын

Can't understand anything this philosopher in glasses says. Lot of words with no meaning. But I find it stunning how we cant stop trying to use limited to see unlimited

@bodhiheeren Жыл бұрын

Saying that the ego is not really who we are is a basic tenet of most Eastern philosophy/spirituality. And realizing that there is something beyond our feelings that is not affected by our feelings is another. It might be very difficult to put into practise but is it so difficult to understand?

@her26mlifecount21 Жыл бұрын

One have to have a child-like attitude to comprehend JK. Ego, personality, past knowledge etc are the blocking factors. One cannot think, which is time when listening JK.

@manmathahaldar9221 2 жыл бұрын

🙏🙏🙏

@ramongomez8849 Жыл бұрын

🙏🏻

@thejvmaster 6 ай бұрын

❤

@mauricealeph3750 Жыл бұрын

Finalmente achei o Sr.Alain Naude

@merpatub Жыл бұрын

50 min ❤️

@vineetnihalani Жыл бұрын

a lot of time would have been saved and utilised in a better way if Ramachandra Gandhi was not involved in the discussion

@camneocare 7 ай бұрын

The one guy from Rama’s school and the other from K school.

@vigneshbalaji6718 Жыл бұрын

OK... i m telling this. I m an Indian. Sometimes I wonder why india is not n the place it deserves....then I see such ppl like in this video. The world benefits from intelligent people even from ordinary people but never from the intellectual ppl. These intellectuals fail because they are not sincere to the context but rather on just showing that who is more intelligent. Their fragile egos got the worst in them. Afterall, they are afraid of the most intelligent man in the room. K was really gng to go with something useful. But that arrogant jerk Professor always interrupted wo respect. But he was rudely shutting ppl down if others interrupted him. The others were also like him but may be to a lesser degree. K is always classy. He never got angry & gave these words, "All these are words, darlings". He might have felt sorry fr the intellectual kids, wished good for mankind.

@RajeevKr_90 3 жыл бұрын

All playing with word but k get back them to point

@healthpediashop8536 3 жыл бұрын

Desire, time and thought are the basic elements of fear

@healthpediashop8536 3 жыл бұрын

1:29:25 aku yg lain selain ketakutan..kesombongan, kesepian, keserakahan...entitas superior...itu semua

@healthpediashop8536 3 жыл бұрын

1:37:00 pikiran mengambil sensasi dan menciptakan gambar...awal dari keinginan yg menyebabkan takut

@healthpediashop8536 3 жыл бұрын

melihat secara brutal its me

@bodhiheeren Жыл бұрын

So this insight has made you completely free of any kind of fear? Cause if not it's just words.

@deanyanko3326 Жыл бұрын

I believe the brain is equipped with primitive self preservation sections but fear can be endured when you know the "observer and observed' it is only thought and know this will pass it's impermanent don't react shift er in to neutral too many people are killing each other out of fear! Yes of preserving the "ego"

@kellygotact6515 Жыл бұрын

You believe ?... Well that probably IS the problem 😏

@nobitanobi7069 11 ай бұрын

Are there more seminars or discussions where Ramachandra Gandhi was present as a participant? Thank You. @KFoundation

@kft 11 ай бұрын

This is the only one that we know of.

@lokeshparihar7672 3 жыл бұрын

who are the participants?

@KFoundation 3 жыл бұрын

J. Krishnamurti, E. W. Adhikaram, Radha Burnier, Pupul Jayakar, Nandini Mehta, G. Narayan, Achyut Patwardhan, Sunanda Patwardhan, Rupert Sheldrake, H.N. Singh, K.K. Singh, E.C. George Sudarshan, P.K. Sundaram

@lokeshparihar7672 2 жыл бұрын

@@KFoundation who is RG(sitting beside rupert sheldrake) as mentioned in captions?

@kunaltrivedi6662 2 жыл бұрын

@@KFoundation Thank you. Please put it in practice to give all participants' name in every video. To all you beautiful team members.... you're all doing historic work....cheers

@davidjames1815 Ай бұрын

K asks for water and they give him a ham sandwich....😮

@jessicaramos9661 3 жыл бұрын

Português, please🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

@KFoundation 3 жыл бұрын

There are over 260 full-length videos available with Portuguese subtitles: kzfaq.info/sun/PL1n30s-LKus49uv84X-iX5Tr8gHJpwlvn

@geraldbronson9949 2 жыл бұрын

I AM not given the spirit of fear and perfect LOVE cast out fear for THE LOVE of GOD no other sacrifice is needed

@abdallahkemmar4876 Жыл бұрын

Dommage que Krishnamurti parle si peu

@kellygotact6515 Жыл бұрын

😂🤣

@KINGJUNAID555 Жыл бұрын

1:35:56

@davidjames1815 Ай бұрын

Are these ppl for real? This isn't staged is it? Lol...😮

@curewish574 2 жыл бұрын

The gentleman in spectacles 'categorical imperative.....' ; who is he ? Through him one can see how much damage the English language has done......to man's consciousness !

@curewish574 2 жыл бұрын

O'K he's intelligent; only that - language / words get in the way of things.

@ravii8 Жыл бұрын

I forwarded his talks 😂

@ThePhoenixTube007 Жыл бұрын

This all gurus philosophers have to much knowledge they talk to much is even boring hear them It's just a show of who has the biggest ego and jiddu was only finally observing them . Letting them be .