Jace is Good Actually || TTC Ep502

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Ай бұрын

Jace is divisive! Is he arrogant and uninteresting, or is he a jarringly friendly horse boy? The answer is both. We sat down with Alison Lührs, author of the Ixalan stories and the Outlaws of Thunder Junction epilogues to talk about Jace the character, and what makes him tick.
Kathleen hosts Michelle Rapp and Number 1 Jace expert Radley as an expert Vorthos panel.
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Alison Lührs:
Magic Story Author and Jacexpert
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Destiny 2 Narrative Director
Radley:
Number 1 Jace Beleren Fan and Jace expert
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Michelle Rapp:
Old Lady of Lore, Color Pie Baker and Jace Analyst
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Artist, Writer and Harassed Young Mother
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@JimFaindel Ай бұрын

Wait, you're telling me the lady that shouts at us for playing do-nothing enchantments and pure life gain cards on the Strange Brew friday night Magic video is actually a prolific and beloved writer of MTG lore? Next you'll tell me Jace is a nuanced, human and integral part of not only the game's story, but also its identity!

@marcushead9985 Ай бұрын

"I've made a planeswalker." "You've effed up a perfectly good wizard is what you've done. Look at him, he's got anxiety."

@janmelantu7490 Ай бұрын

My favorite part of Jace’s image of Gideon on useless island is that we as the audience know that’s absolutely not what Gideon thinks of Jace. Gideon for better or worse wears basically all of his opinions on his sleeve. But Jace is so used to projecting a different image of himself out to the world that his subconscious refuses to take people at face value. *We* know that Gideon’s reaction to Jace struggling physically is to help and teach him not push him out of the way, but Jace has 4D-chessed himself into believing Gideon actually hates him.

@charcharmunr Ай бұрын

Hell, on some level Jace himself probably knows that. But it's sort of the difference of "logically knowing that's not at all what Gideon is like" and "emotionally still feeling terribly insecure because he both admires Gideon but believes himself useless in comparison to him".

@princess_intell Ай бұрын

YOU GOT ALISON?!?!! Alison, if you are reading this, the OTJ epilogues are absolutely gorgeous and I love them.

@CarefulWithThatAx Ай бұрын

They've been friends for years! Alison was on the Eldritch Moon Pre-Prerelease and did a stinger for Friday Nights. She has also remoted in to Desert Bus a couple times.

@mattfenner7824 Ай бұрын

@@CarefulWithThatAx Wait… The person from the “mana is for closers” monologue is also my favorite MTG lore writer? O-o

@thedepthandbreadthofseth Ай бұрын

@@mattfenner7824 "Hautli walked toward the entrance, entranced..."

@explodinglab Ай бұрын

NO WAY THEY GOT RADLEY

@ImpossibilitySpace Ай бұрын

#1 Jace fan Radley and #1 Jace writer Alison on the same podcast. I'm vibrating.

@jst56strong Ай бұрын

"Jace loves powerful chicks" Based and valid. Blue boy has good taste

@Nouxatar Ай бұрын

1:02:23 "The trouble is that we have a bad habit, encouraged by pedants and sophisticates, of considering happiness as something rather stupid. Only pain is intellectual, only evil interesting. This is the treason of the artist: a refusal to admit the banality of evil and the terrible boredom of pain." - Ursula Le Guin This bit of the podcast reminded me of this quote and is absolutely part of why I (and I assume many others) find Jace so compelling. His character goes against this BECAUSE for him to be evil would absolutely be banal and boring, and at times he absolutely was that, and this is why Good Jace is just inherently so much more interesting.

@charcharmunr Ай бұрын

This is why I like the current push of how he could be antagonistic here. He's definitely sympathetic, and has the absolute best of intentions, but he's stopped looking at things beyond the big picture. I've seen so many people want evil Jace for so long and I've always pushed back on it because Jace's character arc in his very first appearance culminates in "I could so easily be a horrible villain, and I don't even really feel that bad about what atrocities I've come close to taking part in, and that TERRIFIES me". Jace HATES what he'd become if he went full villainous, because he could SO easily do it. That's why antagonistic but sympathetic Jace CAN work. Evil Jace can't except as a sort of evil self version (like compleated Jace or a doppelganger or whatever), because Jace is so inherently against himself ever being that person.

@taransnodgress5027 Ай бұрын

Jace has the opportunity to become as powerful as Urza. He holds that power in his hands with the Sylex, but turns away from it. He's the optimism to Urza's pessimism. That struggle, against the urge for total power that would come so easily to him, is endlessly interesting. Ms. Lührs also nailed the millennial condition in half an epilogue story, describing the moral quandries of bringing a child into this world and viewing the systems of power as inherently broken. Kudos to you, Ms. Lührs, on two excellently written stories

@olly123451 Ай бұрын

God Alison has such fantastic energy. Watching her smiling from ear to ear when each of the other hosts talk about her writing is so awesome. She’s obviously so proud of her creation and super happy you be talking with other people who totally get it. And it’s absolutely deserved.

@JRandomHacker Ай бұрын

The fact that Alison _cannot_ stop swearing makes this episode even better.

@Justin_42 Ай бұрын

Alison, under the chance that you are reading this, thank you for writing some of my favorite magic stories. As someone who is young enough to have gotten into magic around the Ixalan set, I don't know how much it would still have a stranglehold on my interests if it weren't for your wondeful stories that I read in between getting my butt kicked in my first limited events. So thank you.

@ladsworld Ай бұрын

damn they really brought in The Experts

@lilyoftheveil666 Ай бұрын

"The system is not working and just barely keeps us moving from crisis to crisis" Jee, I wonder if there are any real world parallels to this...

@cassie5248 Ай бұрын

I love that Alison Luhrs has the ixalan story cards framed above her desk; it's nice seeing the love behind what's put into this game I'm also really glad she came back to write the epilogues; i hope this wasn't the last time she comes back to write stories for jace and vraska because I think having specific writers write for specific characters works well for magic's kind of storytelling and Luhrs is great with these two, but if it was it was a great note to go out on.

@GGCrono Ай бұрын

I've never been more excited about an episode of TTC just from its title. Ms. Lührs, if you're reading this, you're one of my favorite Magic authors and the OTJ epilogues were the highlight of the story season! (With Seanen McGuire's Cecani twins story in second place, of course.)

@definitelynotlazav Ай бұрын

RADLEY TIME! Radley is a genius and should be on the show more

@Storm-crow13 Ай бұрын

Radley is really smart and you should have him on more. I didn’t say this just because he asked, I swear /lying

@TalenLee Ай бұрын

This prompted me to go back and look at the article I wrote about Jace, as a character, and the way he was perceived. It included this passage: > What Jace wants, I think, more than anything else, is to be an okay person. Not a high bar to reach, you’d think, but then he has to face up to the fact that the tool he has is something that makes it very easy to be a bad person. He’s a telepath, his powers let him deal with memories - they even let him manipulate his own memories. And worst, that last little clause means he’s always going to be doubting whether or not he is a good person. This was August, 2017 - a month before the release of Ixalan. These pieces have been *there* for a long time.

@charcharmunr Ай бұрын

I mean that's his ultimate resolution in Agents of Artifice. "I may not be a good person, but I don't want to be what working for the Consortium is turning me into", so he goes scorched earth on the organisation, dismantles its leadership and then just walks away despite Liliana pushing him to take over. It's why in RtR he decides to actually just suck up and take the Guildpact job and at least TRY. It's the main reason he gets involved in Battle for Zendikar, with some push from Gideon, because the Eldrazi are at least something he was responsible for on some level, and Gideon's influence pushes him from more "wants to not be bad" to "actively trying to be good".

@lucasenraraujo Ай бұрын

Other characters that suffer from this dissonance between lore and mechanics/art/flavor depictions are Teferi and Narset. I feel like it's interesting that so many core-blue characters have "BIG JERK" powers but are often complex and interesting characters.

@charcharmunr Ай бұрын

And then you have Tezzeret, who starts off as a big jerk and just keeps doubling down, somehow.

@Arohan71 29 күн бұрын

See, I love Teferi's bits because they just give him so much chill dad energy in the story

@NickTheDM Ай бұрын

Oh hell yeah, it actually happened! Happy to see Alison and Radley on the show.

@ryanjmcintyre Ай бұрын

It’s the unexpected and special things like this that remind me why I keep up my Patreon subscription

@mattwilliams4902 Ай бұрын

Yaaay Radley! Loved to see him on the show and would love to see him again!

@Kbaby521 Ай бұрын

Feeling very starstruck getting to watch Radley, no. 1 Jace expert

@WowItsErin Ай бұрын

As a Jace superfan, this was so great!! It’s always such a wonderful experience seeing Magic creators appreciate this part of the story as much as I do. (Or, in Radley’s case, much more than I do lol) I think my favorite part of this episode was something that I love about Jace in general- He brings out so much complexity and nuance in other characters. The bit about Vraska being horrified by Liliana’s behavior, not just because it was cruel and abusive, but because it’s *something she understands as a black-aligned character?* Magnificent stuff, very insightful. Also, you’ve GOTTA read agents of artifice: It’s an incredible work, fundamental to the foundations of modern magic story, and also features Jace’s badass Heterosexual Life Partner, Kallist Rhoka. Plus you could have Radley on again! As you implied in the intro, he’s the foremost scholar on the subject lol

@charcharmunr Ай бұрын

For what it's worth, the author of Agents of Artifice has said that, if he were to go back and change one thing it'd be to have Jace and Kallist have an off-screen romance that didn't work out because there's a LOT of energy between them.

@cheshirecreeper3743 Ай бұрын

Wow, radley's really smart and I want him on the show more

@doublee343 Ай бұрын

So glad you got Alison on the show! Her stories are some of my favs!

@charcharmunr Ай бұрын

Hell of a line-up to talk about Jace. It's a shame they didn't get much into Agents of Artifice though. Going through that and the sort of foundation it makes for Jace's character feels like an important thing to talk about and a lot of people gloss over it.

@raonair Ай бұрын

Great episode. I liked Jace cause he was the cool mind mage with a coat and hood, never hated his personality, but Alison made me fall in love with him, Vraska and their relationship. They are all I could want in Magic's story.

@FanOfMostEverything Ай бұрын

Firstly, I have read Agents of Artifice. Secondly, this was outstanding throughout. Thank you all for this wonderful Jace forum.

@mackenzierobinson7310 Ай бұрын

What a wondeful episode with a wonderful panel! Especially loved having Rad, who will always be the #1 Jace fan, truly the pinnacle

@stevenjordan6512 Ай бұрын

radley's so goated! glad you got him on here.

@gnome_friend5281 Ай бұрын

I would love a "Nissa is Good Actually" podcast since she's my favorite Planeswalker.

@sentientwaffle535 Ай бұрын

NUMBER ONE RADLEY FAN HERE RADLEY NATION REPRESENT!!!!!!!

@elsesome2707 Ай бұрын

I loved this episode, it's a joy to hear author share insight into writing the character, and super glad to hear Radley join in on a conversation! A lot of it spoke to me as Blue leaning person, and my attempts to navigate close relationships and masculinity. The comment that got me to write this comment was a note on Jace's point about activating Sylex as the only way. I still sincerely believe that the way the moral dilemma was presented to us throughout All Will Be One, he was still right. Of course emotionally and narratively it's incongruent for The Allegory Of A Nuke to solve everything, instead of Heroic Alligiance of Full Diversity of Magic's Multiverse but ONE didn't convince me for a moment that Kaya, Kaito, and Elspeth were morally in the right. Sure, they had to be, there is a lot of Magic to happen after, but it wasn't justified adequately within the internal logic. ...I am yelling about characters treating their seemingly completely baseless in a moment assumptions as unshakeable facts, which undoubtedly were meant to be unshakeable facts for the narrative to carry through... Time to stop and take a breath.

@elsesome2707 Ай бұрын

I watched a video discussing various topics of Nihilism, and in it was mentioned the concept of Absurd Hero. A person who carries on trying to be the best version of themselves to others, even as they consider it all fleeting, meaningless, and empty. The video essayist highlighted how this attitude is deeply hollow and isolating, as you are effectively holding yourself at arms length from true belonging. I fear I see this resonate in Jace's and Vraska's relationship after the Phyrexian invasion.

@charcharmunr Ай бұрын

@@elsesome2707 It's an interesting thing and god I hope whatever their character trajectory is is handled well. Whether it's Liliana truly opening herself up to Jace and empathising with him, whether it's Chandra simply providing the presence of a friend, whether it's the Golgari welcoming Vraska back, or Ral pleading with the both of them, or if it's Gideon's ghost or some shit, I hope the resolution isn't just "they're wrong and they die/get imprisoned". I want these two to be talked down, but I know that Magic is a game about conflict, so there's gonna be SOMETHING that happens prior to that.

@venomturtle17 Ай бұрын

An hour and forty minutes of people talking about my favorite magic character? Yes please! (I also read Agents of Artifice)

@halffin64 Ай бұрын

RADLEY JUMPSCARE

@lucasfelipe486 Ай бұрын

Oh cool, Alison and Michelle, they're great and-HOLY SHIT RADLEY?

@cassie5248 Ай бұрын

Radley!!!! Radley from tumblr THE jace expert

@Blairrows Ай бұрын

Great episode! Please have Radley on the show again! ❤💜💙

@ashwynfaust Ай бұрын

It was great to have the author on the panel here. Great discussion in Jace.

@KC_Enthusiast Ай бұрын

Saw the title and knew I had to get in here early. Real Jace-heads know

@mweepigeon Ай бұрын

omg ALISON... and RADLEY??? and hi Michelle!!!!!!! oh this is a good time

@Zuloo451 Ай бұрын

i know of several people who will be very excited for this episode

@Kbaby521 Ай бұрын

Radley, chiefly.

@dominicscaglione2527 Ай бұрын

Radly mentioned

@liulyam Ай бұрын

omg is that the #1 jace fan radley on an episode about jace beleren!!!??!!! also everyone should read agents of artifice and learn about kallist rhoka :)

@alexgarrett4673 Ай бұрын

This was a fantastic episode! As someone who was massively into MtG story from when I started playing in Scars of Mirrodin up until it died after Eldraine, Alison's Ixalan story has been my absolute favourite piece of MtG fiction since I first read it. In fact, her Thunder Junction epilogue is what brought me back after not reading any of the story since Eldraine.

@jacobjones9050 Ай бұрын

Went into this with a slightly above average liking of Jace. Leaving realizing that I am Jace. Jace is Me. Insert Danny Devito meme

@chaosmittens Ай бұрын

Thank you for doing this. I love Jace, and often feel alone in that opinion.

@DeltaDrakon Ай бұрын

WOOOO RADLEY GUEST WOOOOO!!! THAT'S MY FAVORITE GUYYYY!!!! HE'S THE BIGGEST FAN OF JACE BELEREN!!! YEAH RADLEY!!

@jmcauley650 Ай бұрын

I love all of these guests, and Kathleen is always great. Absolutely all star lineup, all 4 of these people.

@User5770 Ай бұрын

Vorthos cast! Vorthos cast! I'm so here for story episodes with authors as guests.

@Lupus2006 Ай бұрын

Thanks for this Kathleen, this was a wonderful episode. I haven't really dived deep into a character analysis like since I finished university almost 8 years ago and I admire how much thought you have put into this, especially you Alison. Thank you for creating the Jace that I see the me I want to be in (minus the recent de/re(con)structive ideation that will surely lead to nothing horrible happening to others). The Ixalan and Epilogue stories are some of my favourite stories, full stop. Not just magic stories, stories of all time, and I look forward to the work you do in the future. (not that I think she is going to read these comments). I just need to say this.

@seanclark4071 Ай бұрын

In regard to the coffee on ravnica thoughts at the end, I think it’s reasonable to conclude that not all of ravnica is cold and rainy, the city covers literally the entire world, so some parts of it have to be equatorial, just not the tenth district where all the interesting things happen, and coffee existed naturally at one time, then ravnica a wanted more of it, so the simic altered it so it could grow in more climates (underground) and it has since become a staple of ravnican diets

@codenames-are-stupid Ай бұрын

Alison and Radley!! The dream team!!!

@alexortiz9777 Ай бұрын

Number 1 Jace expert Radley as an expert!!

@BrowneePointz Ай бұрын

The reasons I love Jace, is he is, as far as worldview wise, Magic's version of Superman, even down to the "I see the world as a Paper Bag" ideology. He believes and loves people, genuinely, even when their worse natures are shown, and knows that if he pushes just a bit too hard, things will break.

@charcharmunr Ай бұрын

I think the key difference is Superman had an incredibly moral-focused upbringing. Jace's upbringing was at first "caring" but it was definitely still a little more detached, and then his tutelage under Alhammarret was entirely pushing him to be this sort of weapon. Jace's strongest moral guideline was Gideon, and Gideon never really TRIED to make Jace a better person, he just did by being who he was. That sort of upright morality combined with Jace's self-awareness of his own power IS much more Superman, which is an interesting thing to note, that Superman decomposited is effectively two people who feel wrong without the other (not in the Clark and Superman way, but in the 'morality' and 'awareness' way).

@DelphinusZero Ай бұрын

I loved this and want more of Kathleen’s Magic Story Book Club!

@stephan5574 Ай бұрын

More of that please. Love the deep dive on lore, though also taking people by the hand that didn't read the story.

@benadams7760 Ай бұрын

Really really love this episode and hope we see some more set agnostic lore deepdives like this in the future. Thank you Kathleen and all of the panel. Thank you paul

@Rabhadh-RhymesWithJava Ай бұрын

RADLEY! Awhile back, I bought his borderless Garruk from that huge Planeswalker drop thing pre-2020. It went to good use in my Windgrace deck.

@mihaicasator4221 Ай бұрын

I got back into reading mtg lore because of Kathleens love of Ixilan's Story and am always glad when i find out story is happening

@alltheorynopractice5467 22 күн бұрын

I love episodes like this. Synopses (synopsises?) And essays discussing media have actually become my preferred way to consume media; the discussion interests me more than the thing itself. So as someone who's read precisely NONE MtG stories, I find it fascinating to see that the common thread of Jace's relationships is manipulation, with the irony being that the brilliant mind mage is the one consistently being manipulated by others (Alhammaret, Tezzeret, Liliana, Bolas). Until Vraska. She's the first to not see him as something useful, a powerful tool, but as someone who matters even without his abilities.

@1y1e 24 күн бұрын

Absolute banger of an episode - the nuance and insight is genuinely fascinating. Would LOVE to see more Vorthos symposiums in future :D

@TheSuperDoubleG Ай бұрын

This was absolutely incredible!!

@durge12 Ай бұрын

alison is the actual best- bungie are on to a winner right there

@velvetisis 28 күн бұрын

More of this please! I'm fairly new to the game, or at least the lore aspect of it and I've been going back through the story recaps you all have done, but this kind of literary analysis was a great way to get to know these characters on a deeper level. This was amazing and I'd love to see more like this!

@flushmastercyclonis186 Ай бұрын

As to coffee on Ravnica, as far as I know Ravnica has an equator. Between the Golgari, the Selesnya, and the Simic I'm sure there are a wide variety of strains that thrive in various regions.

@alderbreslau9421 Ай бұрын

Ravnica is an ECUMENOPOLIS, while we don't see it, there are equatorial regions, there can be coffee beans and the Golgari probably grow them.

@thedepthandbreadthofseth Ай бұрын

Also, surely there are some hot, steamy rooftop greenhouses.

@heartofgoldfish Ай бұрын

can we have this as a dedicated show tbh

@lucasenraraujo Ай бұрын

Only just started but HOLY COW, so many MVPs of the vorthos community! I already feel elated

@egyptcraze 29 күн бұрын

I didn't know Alison Luhrs is a backpacker! That's awesome!

@bennos5380 Ай бұрын

Incredible video - also, woo radley!!!

@bagfullofbees2529 Ай бұрын

I'm certain the Simic could engineer some sort of coffee-producing plant that could be grown on Ravnica

@yaronbernstein970 Ай бұрын

“From void evolved Comments. Great KZfaq, Father of The Algorithm, saw its perfection. Thus the Grand Viewer Engagement Metric began.” Also, Radley's really smart and I want him on the show more

@EternalRoxas Ай бұрын

What an AMAZING episode!

@JeysieC 23 күн бұрын

I still remember my days of getting back into Magic during Amonkhet, deciding I really liked Jace after reading Agents of Artifice and the Magic Story to catch up on this new "Gatewatch" thing, joining the MTG and Vorthos Reddits... and finding out that was, shall we say, not a popular opinion. Though me and a few other people did our best to nudge people around, and then Ixalan came along and *really* helped us out. Needless to say I'm pleased at Jace being more liked (or at least less hated) nowadays, and I'm incredibly happy with the Vraska/Jace romance, and I thank Alison for both of those things.

@kasper1787 Ай бұрын

loved all of this.

@axelostlund2348 Ай бұрын

I remember feeling mediul on Jace partially through cultural osmosis, but the ixilan story changed it for the better.

@SarahRady49 Ай бұрын

I love seeing Michelle!

@valeriedure2341 Ай бұрын

RADLEY???

@jamescampbell2353 Ай бұрын

Ravnican coffee beans are more closely related to Cordyseps than it is to Tarkir coffee beans

@Jay-yr9oi Ай бұрын

A lot about Jace, especially his inner darkness/capability to do great harm btu trying to do good reminds me a lot of Kvothe from Kingkiller Chronicles and Rand from Wheel of Time. These characters with a lot of power, some strong urges to use it simply out of revenge, and constantly (not always successfully) working to hold it in check.

@SpiffyTrev 29 күн бұрын

I was one of the people who commented previously that I'm tired of Jace and want something else. This episode is interesting, and I'm happy that there are people who like Jace. I've never met anyone in real life who wasn't just sick of him, so it's genuinely shocking to hear anyone say anything positive on the topic. I'm glad there are people enjoying it. Didn't change my mind about him, or that I'd like story to be about literally anything else. But at least now I know there are people outside of Wizards marketing department who like him.

@Mordalon 28 күн бұрын

What was bad about him to you in the Ixalan story?

@SpiffyTrev 28 күн бұрын

@@Mordalon At that point it had already been a decade of Jace being awful. So, “he’s good and hot, actually” feels bad, even if it’s well written.

@Mordalon 27 күн бұрын

@@SpiffyTrev He hasn't been "awful" the whole time.

@SpiffyTrev 27 күн бұрын

@@Mordalonhis personality (particularly in flavour text, which is where a lot of players most often encounter the characters) is very similar to a type of bully that a lot of us have dealt with in TCG or TTRPG spaces for a long time. No amount of marketing pushing or redemption arcs are ever going to make up for that.

@Mordalon 25 күн бұрын

@@SpiffyTrev As others have pointed out, even when those flavor texts long ago where being written, they didn't match the character of Jace that was in the story.

@thecooliest2644 Ай бұрын

THANK YOU FOR SAYING IT JACE ROCKS I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS

@TheCorsair444 22 күн бұрын

"Gideon always has his shit together; he will never not be okay." T.T

@CironSkylark 25 күн бұрын

Generational episode. I hope more content like this can happen in the future.

@MsMollieMac417 Ай бұрын

I'll come back and link it if I remember, but there's a beautiful analysis on Tumblr of Jace as transmasc.

@cassie5248 Ай бұрын

Yeah that's by Radley!!!

@MsMollieMac417 Ай бұрын

@@cassie5248 oh shoot, I didn't know that!

@mimpbusiness Ай бұрын

holy fuck its radley from online

@hennhales Ай бұрын

screaming, crying, throwing up, radley spotted!!!!

@CSDragon Ай бұрын

Allison wrote the Gatewatch stuff? :O Legit, Origins through Ravinca Allegiance (especially Kaladesh and Ixalan) was when I was absolutely in love with the MTG story. I'm still fuming about what they did in WAR, but obviously that's not her.

@jka97 Ай бұрын

This is an amazing group to get for tap tap. Amazing jib everyone....now I'm off to read the Ixlon story. 😅

@XldemonbloodlX Ай бұрын

I definitely think Ravnicans are chugging chaga on the sly.

@rosavanopheusden5211 Ай бұрын

omg I can't wait for this

@gamerbear84 Ай бұрын

Jace: To be the man, you gotta beat the man! Woooo!

@rocketrae21 28 күн бұрын

This was enjoyable as not a big lore person

@jordanewers5375 Ай бұрын

I was ELATED when I found out Allison was on this. Radley was fine IMO, he’s ok I guess

@hostileeldritch2686 Ай бұрын

RADLEEYYYYYYY

@shaden489 Ай бұрын

So from a story perspective jace Honestly seems fine I think I just find allot of his cards mechanically not that interesting which is admitadly a personal thing. Also doesn't help that my first time learning about jace and planes walkers in general was playing an old casual kitchen table deck against a deck on jace the mind sculptor circa 2010ish after having not played mostly since around kamigawa