dude I have been trying to get a jmod to look into mine for like 4 years now they honestly just ignore us

This^

Yeah but they won’t

Yup i got a false macroing perm ban on my range pure that made me stop playing for like two years

@@dscvered Yeah, it happened to me on October 15th 2023. I haven’t played since, and I use to play (literally) all day every day. Their loss. 🤷‍♂️

Its all just a publicity stunt because they clearly dont do much to stop the bots

@@DustinJames-mk1gl why would they? they probably get a kickback.

@devynyates1929 That's not what I'm saying What I mean is that to make the game (and thereby the company) look better, they want to give off the impression that their bot busting abilities are better than they actually are They could easily just spare 100 detected botters from bans until they make their streams Those aren't necessarily bots that were newly found

@@devynyates1929 The incentive is that jagex wants to retain their playerbase, and the majority of us are against bots So they need to downplay how many bots there are and inflate their stated detection rates.

@@DustinJames-mk1gl That's a huge assumption to make

Then jagex would have to actually care about the bots. Problem is they don't wanna lose 75% of their revenue.

yesss i've been thinking about this for months now, even just a chat message on login when an account you've reported has been banned would be enough for me

@@Foaplo Don't they just buy membership with gp tho? Since they make so much anyway. That only increase the price of bonds ingame.

@@waterzoip And who buys the bond to sell on AH? Real player.

@@Carnivorew You bugged me out with the AH, auction house lol Yea I guess so, bonds did triple in price compared to 2020 so yea, botters are buying them like crazy. At least one "good thing" for real players I guess.

I am immune to the negative effects of microplastic.

I mean Factor makes sense for some people. I was subbed for about a year and thought it was nice to not have to plan what to eat every week, a box just showed up every Tuesday and all I had to do was put it in my fridge. With that said, I still wouldn't recommend Factor. I was going on vacation and wanted to cancel my sub temporarily. When realizing you could only pause it for a few weeks before it would auto resume and that you literally had to call in to their hotline to cancel it I just went ahead and cancelled permanently. Wasn't going to give a company that pulls tactics like that any more of my money

@@lyyks9452But how was the food though

Lmaaaaoooooo

fr, I was kinda meh'd out after seeing him advertising microwave meals

yeah well known popular method made by proper player but bots just copied it i think.

Ah but that's the thing. If players could get rewards by reporting bots, then botfarms would center around themselves about reporting other bots in their competitions bot farms to farm rewards from those bots for those rewards.

this would encourage a ton of false reports as well, clogging up the system and slowing down the rate at which actual bots are banned

Bot busting level 99 skillcape would be LEGIT

My bot detector plugin on runelite has like 5k confirmed bans.

​@Luigi_Main3752 not if there's fashionscape non tradeable items or like a new animation or emote something not over powered ...

Nice try bot

Uh, …am, ..am I a bot? 🤖

Were we the bots we made along the way all along?

Botters are already in the worlds...

still think the good outweighs the bad tbh

I can tell you right now, as a bot writer, they know. Many competent bot writers collect ban data already. I know one who works with an anti-bot data scientist to collect, parse, and interpret the data to lower ban rates for his script. This anti-bot scientist works with various companies to fight bot attacks on websites and ironically uses his knowledge to make bots less bannable for osrs.

Do you not think a bot script writer knows which of their own accounts get banned the most?

@@bobmarley5454companies?

the game is very simple: people like PK so they buy coins from the internet, from botters, the boters make bots who have payed membership sometimes, so jagex is making money from bots, they dont really care even botters buy coins from botters probably, so they can gear up their bots and compete in the botting game :D

the last like year or 2 they 100% stopped banning as many bots. theres so many obvious 200m thieving bots at vyres. i truly believe they dont ban bots cuz they buy membership

@@thedon1262 tbf the price of gp from bonds is very close to rwt now.

They never will. If they remove bots all together, the population will drop by like 75% lmao.

@@TheJasonboteler this is true sadly

I think those streams are pointless. It just proofs how they don't give a fck. Go look up those names from the high scores… They are all back in the game. None of them got actually banned because the appeal system, is operated by a robot, so they got appeals accepted and continue botting like nothing ever happened. So what is the point of these Streams??

the vorkath bot farm that trades mules multiple times daily at the g.e on world 308 and has quite literally over 100 vorkath bots in it would beg to differ, I reported every single one of their accounts over the past few weeks and not one of them has been banned, not a single one.

Lol botting one of the easiest skills

That would suck

just run a bot script and watch

sounds like the mod maker was lazy

how was it sus? i watched ir like 3 times to see him. there were far too many bots around to reliably spot every single one.

yeah theres a lot of mains that are high level that bot because they heard one dude say "jagex doesnt watch accounts with hundreds of hours for botting"

@@itsOZone 🤣

​@@itsOZonemore like its just significantly harder to 100% say somebody is botting when a good chunk of their clicks are real

Are you saying the game only has around 30k real players online while the other 70k are bots / goldfarmers?

every time jagex bans a bot someone buy a new bond, they are HEAVILY incentivized to ban bots as fast as humanly possible.

@@cHaMp630 well yeah… probably 20% real playerbase. There so many bots its almost sad to see..

​@@skoodlemoosenot true about banning as fast as possible. Those people buy bonds for bots because they will still profit with the bot. If the bots are banned too quickly, they won't even make the bot and buy the bond, so they are actually incentivized to let the bots make a profit for their owner before banning them.

@@WarlordEXO-jg1ov bro ur delusional if you think these numbers are legit. theres no universe where only 20% of the player base is real, its more like 20% is bots.

This is big brain

Except after the first time they'll just add a secondary bot that will check on other bots in the farm to confirm that they're still on the normal worlds. And thats if the bot owner doesn't want to just check them manually. Also I dont think most bots wait days or weeks before muling their gold, so realistically it would probably stall for like 12-24 hours at most.

@smilestheemo3365 you would think it would depend on what bot farm The little ones are one thing but there are guys runnings dozens or even hundreds of accounts so it's unlikely they can continiously check progress beyond simply seeing if it was running The checker bot would have to have some way of reporting non contact as well and most of those bott programs are really basic Granted there are a few which are fairly advanced, such as the TOB bots but those usually require a real person to check them anyway Also to gather 10s of millions through farming it's unlikely they are checking them daily running fairly efficiently revs would give you what 1 to 1.5m an hour? So, to be able to collect 70 to 100 mil on hand on the account it's unlikely they are muling off that often

They don’t wanna expose the game for how bad the bot problem is lol

@@Gematrinator if that's the case then they're doing a pretty bad job considering they're livestreaming it on twitch

@@scrung they’re literally going to no bot hotspots(spots that are actually over-run with bots on every world) for example. Rev caves..there’s 5 bots every spawn on every world. How about try getting rid of those farms? That are bringing in well over a billion gold per day at the least. Eh? How bout it? They won’t though like i said, because it exposes how bot ridden the game truly is. Which is why they do this on a whole entirely different world that nobody had access to.

@@scrung have you ever entered rev caves before, mate? Everytime i do i think why am i still playing this game? Although all i do now is pk, i feel sorry for the people still grinding out skills/xp/pvming

@@Gematrinator no haha sorry i havent. also, why if i may ask?

No, there is no possible way for a bot script to know this. So it's likely a mix of coincidence, you being super slow & likely a tiny bit of paranoia on your end.

None that I can think of, but a lot of bots will log out instantly if another player comes within range of them. That's usually used to make wilderness content almost completely safe, but it could also be used to hide from other players to avoid reports.

It doesn't. The bots killed in these streams are a fraction of a percent of all bots.

Almost impossible to measure with out knowing how much stuff there already is. We also have to remember that anything that makes it out of a hot account into the players hands is effectively stuck in the game now.

Plus you can quite easily program a bot to complete practically any of the content in the game without any risk of death.

@@smilestheemo3365 yep

he's still banned

​@@sprungs you right. Was looking at LDaggo, another (maybe?) bot. Also ordinkia unbanned 2:07 also xladymorgana 2:27...etc etc (temp ban?)

where are all the vorkath bots, I see a huge vorkath bot farm every single day trading its mules on world 308 at the grand exchange, there's over 100 of them, I know this because I literally filled my pures ignore list just from reporting them.

They are supervised bots usually though, You often find the bot farm owners stood nearby to kill you if you bother them.

Does anyone these days know the potato reference?

no he doesn’t. this video is so lazy it’s not even funny. all he did was recap a jagex livestream- and got paid by youtube ad roll and a sponsor on top of that. and the icing on the cake is the click-bait 94 elysians in the thumbnail.

@@Scrotie.McBoogerballls yeah peoople probably don't understand he probably gets 6-10k+ per sponsor + ad revenue and i would bet he wouldn't be playing the game if it wasn't a source of income

obviously he does. look at most of his videos, they're all clickbait.

wait true

Good idea 😅

If you want to find and report bots you can do that in any world from the list. Why do so many people care about logging into the bot world so that they can report accounts that have already been detected as bots? There isn't even a sense of honor from cleaning up the game that way, since they're already basically marked to be banned by Jagex.

What do you think?

@@aMondayMorning I'd like to think they do. It'd be worth the time and effort